Religion is controversial in its raw form, but when people tinker with the beliefs of religious groups for the purposes of entertainment, things definitely heat up. Some of the films on this list have caused riots, and some have even resulted in deaths. Hardly a great example of religious tolerance. Here are the 10 most controversial religious films ever made. This list contains a competition – further details at the bottom of the list.
The exorcist is really one of the best horror films ever made – it continues to scare and enthrall new viewers to this day. But at the time of release, while many saw great merit in the movie, others were not so happy. Some critical responses were: “a chunk of elegant occultist claptrap” “[A] practically impossible film to sit through” “it establishes a new low for grotesque special effects…”, “The Exorcist succeeds on one level as an effectively excruciating entertainment, but on another, deeper level it is a thoroughly evil film, and [N]othing more than a religious porn film”. Some preachers – like Billy Graham, felt the movie itself was satanic.
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While the majority of the assaults on this dreadful film were due to bad acting, bad scripting, and a lame story, it can not be excluded from this list because it ties in to the Scientology mythology about the origin of humans on earth. This is a piece of scientology propaganda and it is not surprising that it was such a failure as a film. The biggest criticism of the film was the fact that people were not willing to open their wallets for it. John Travolta, for the record, says he’d love to make a “Battlefield” sequel. We can only hope that never happens!
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This film was highly controversial due to the manner in which it dealt with issues close to Catholic’s hearts. While Catholics consider stigmata to be a sign of holiness, this film has an atheist hairdresser experience stigmata in a manner in which she appears to be demonically possessed. In addition, the other main character, a Jesuit Priest, discovers a connection between the stigmata and one of the Gnostic Gospels (4th century religious writings condemned by the Catholic Church). The priest uncovers a plot within the vatican to keep the gospels “truth” concealed.
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This film is a satire of the Catholic Church and Catholic belief, which caused organized protests and much controversy in many countries. Although there was no opposition to the film while the actual filming and pre-production was taking place, the following months of post-production and publicity were plagued with controversy over a perceived anti-Christian message in the film. Over time, the director (Kevin Smith) received over 30 thousand pieces of hate mail. Catholic groups around the world staged protests, and Smith received several death threats. Perhaps to head off controversy, the film’s title sequence contained a disclaimer, which included the line “Even God has a sense of humor–just look at the platypus.”
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This film caused controversy by showing aspects of Hinduism in a negative light. The day before filming of Water was due to begin, the crew was informed that there were complications with their location permits for filming. The following day, they learned that 2,000 protesters had stormed the ghats, destroying and burning the main film set and throwing the remnants into the Ganges in protest of what ultimately were revealed to be false accusations regarding the subject matter of the film. The resulting tensions and economic setbacks led to several years of struggle as Mehta was eventually forced to film Water in Sri Lanka, rather than in India. Finally Mehta was able to make the film, but with a new cast and under a false title (River Moon) in 2003. “Water” was nominated for a 2007 Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film.
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The Life of Brian, is a 1979 comedy film written, directed and largely performed by the Monty Python comedy team. It tells the story of Brian Cohen (played by Graham Chapman), a young Jewish man born in the same era and location as Jesus Christ, who is mistaken for the Messiah. Protests against the film were organized based on its perceived blasphemy. On its initial release in the UK, the film was banned by several town councils, some of which had no cinemas within their boundaries, or had not even seen the film for themselves. In New York, screenings were picketed by both rabbis and nuns while the film was banned outright in some American states. It was also banned for eight years in the Republic of Ireland and for a year in Norway (it was marketed in Sweden as “The film so funny that it was banned in Norway”). One of the most controversial scenes was the film’s ending: Brian’s crucifixion. Many Christian protestors said that it was mocking Jesus’s suffering by turning it into a “Jolly Boys Outing”.
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This film based on the final days of the life of Jesus cause controversy on two counts: many Jews were angered by it claiming it was anti-semitic (due to the depiction of the treatment of Jesus at the hands of Jews in the film) and from anti-Catholic protesters who were angered that the film did not rely solely on the Bible for its plot. Asked by Bill O’Reilly if his movie would “upset Jews,” Gibson responded, “It’s not meant to. I think it’s meant to just tell the truth. I want to be as truthful as possible.” Accusations of anti-Semitism were fueled by news reports that Mel Gibson’s father, Hutton Gibson, denied the Holocaust. After Frank Rich of the New York Times wrote against the unreleased film and called Gibson’s publicist a “Holocaust denier defender” Gibson was overheard by The New Yorker telling his publicist, “I want to kill him. I want his intestines on a stick. I want to kill his dog.”
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Ron Howard’s “The Da Vinci Code,” based on the best-seller by Dan Brown, places the Catholic Church at the center of a (fictional) conspiracy to cover up the truth about Jesus–that he was married to Mary Magdalene and the father of a child whose descendants have been protected from the murderous Church ever since. What’s more, this denigration of Mary Magdalene’s “rightful” place as Jesus’ wife is portrayed as part of a larger Church conspiracy to stamp out devotion to the divine feminine, which was at the heart of early Christian worship. In the months leading up to the film’s 2006 release, most Christian organizations refrained from calling for an outright boycott, instead using the film to spark discussion about Jesus and to challenge the story’s claims. Despite poor reviews, the film took in a reported $758 million worldwide, making it one of the highest grossing of 2006.
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Submission is a 10-minute film in English directed by Theo van Gogh and written by Ayaan Hirsi Ali (a former Tweede Kamer member for the Dutch People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy); it was shown on the Dutch public broadcasting network (VPRO) on August 29, 2004. The film’s title is a direct translation of the word “Islam”. The film tells the story of four fictional characters played by a single actress wearing a veil, but clad in a see-through chador, her naked body painted with verses from the Koran. The characters are Muslim women who have been abused in various ways. On November 2, 2004, Theo van Gogh was assassinated in public by Mohammed Bouyeri, a Dutch Muslim of Moroccan descent. A letter, stabbed through and affixed to the body by a dagger, linked the murder to Van Gogh’s film and his views regarding Islam. It was addressed to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and called for jihad against unbelievers. Following the murder of Van Gogh, tens of thousands gathered in the center of Amsterdam to mourn Van Gogh’s death. There were fire-bombings of mosques and Muslim schools, and counterattacks against Christian churches. I am pleased to be able to present the entire movie here on the site – it is embedded from youtube above. It is interesting to note that Amazon does not stock this movie.
The Last Temptation of Christ is a film adaptation of the controversial 1951 novel of the same name by Nikos Kazantzakis. Like the novel, the film depicts the life of Jesus Christ, and its central thesis is that Jesus, while free from sin, was still subject to every form of temptation that humans face, including fear, doubt, depression, reluctance and lust. This results in the book and film depicting Christ being tempted by imagining himself engaged in sexual activities, a notion that has caused outrage from some Christians. Protests against the movie from religious communities began before the film had even finished production. The studio was expecting a backlash due to the controversies revolving around any media treatment of Christ (see dramatic portrayals of Jesus Christ), but the protests accompanying Last Temptation were unprecedented. Major religious leaders in the United States blasted the film in fiery sermons, and condemned its subject matter as pornographic. On October 22, 1988, a French christian fundamentalist group launched molotov cocktails inside the Parisian Saint Michel movie theater to protest against the film. This attack injured thirteen people, four of whom were severely burned. The film is still not available from Blockbuster Video and some libraries. In some countries, including Mexico and Chile, the film was banned for several years. It continues to be prohibited in the Philippines, Singapore, and South Africa.
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Notable omissions: The Pope Must Die(t), The Crime of Father Amaro, The Birth of a Nation, Priest, The Message, Agnes of God, Hail Mary
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August 14th, 2008 at 3:08 am
I can only see 9 and 10!
August 14th, 2008 at 3:10 am
same! ah well, i thought the exorcist was hilarious… especially the bit where she walks down the stairs on all fours
August 14th, 2008 at 3:10 am
oh goddamn
August 14th, 2008 at 3:11 am
There are only two, apparently. lol
August 14th, 2008 at 3:11 am
Save your ‘OMG FIRST!!!!11!!!2′ crap Gyula, your comments will just be deleted.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:12 am
Last 2 Out Of 10 Most Controversial Religious Movies
August 14th, 2008 at 3:12 am
Oh, and the Exorcist scene where the girl goes down the stairs on all fours, wasn’t actually in the original film, but added later in the re release. None the less, it’s a great scene.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:12 am
and LOL @ “John Travolta, for the record, says he’d love to make a “Battlefield” sequel. We can only hope that never happens!”
god that was a terrible movie.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:14 am
John Travolta with tentacle dread locks didn’t even interest me when I was 13.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:14 am
I bet The last Temptation of Christ and The Passion Of the Christ is on the list
August 14th, 2008 at 3:15 am
I am going to predict right now (having only seen the first two items) that the comments on this list are going to be heated and people are going to argue about:
A) Religion
B) The rankings
C) The authors of the books that any of these movies are based on
D) History
And I predict more than one person is going to insult Tom Cruise AND Mel Gibson (‘cos I also predict that The Passion of Christ or whatever that movie was called will be on this list).
August 14th, 2008 at 3:16 am
#7. Kihoshi, yeah i only ever saw the movie about 2 years ago… i watched that scene over and over and couldn’t stop laughing.
oh god i think there might be something wrong with me.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:17 am
Sarahenity, I wasn’t born for the original, but it’s my father’s favorite movie, so I saw it during my horror movie phase. Then I saw the remake.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:20 am
Sorry, not remake, re release, excuse me, please.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:21 am
Working on a fix
August 14th, 2008 at 3:24 am
11. Tempyra – i’d say you’d be spot on
August 14th, 2008 at 3:27 am
Tempyra: Yes!
I can’t see any items at all on the list but I don’t need to to be sure you’re right.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:28 am
I see nothing, not even dead people.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:30 am
“Religion is controversial in its raw form, but when people ti”
that was my favorite part
August 14th, 2008 at 3:39 am
By definition, aren’t all religious films controversial?
the topic itself, as noted, is one of the most controversial on earth. so it makes perfect sense that any movies based on that subject would be as well.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:45 am
Fixed! Sorry about that. I am having internet issues.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:48 am
Oh – re the exorcist – my favorite horror movie of all time – the original is better than the remake – the remake included stuff for shock value – the first was more subtle – if you can call masturbating with a crucifix subtle
August 14th, 2008 at 3:52 am
Awesome list. Stigmata was actually a superb film and raised a lot of questions in the religious circles. I was particularly tickled by the fact that the priest in Stigmata became the Devil in End of Days.
The Passion of Christ is a must see. Really moving and artistically done so you can almst feel the pain Jesus went through.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:56 am
Also i think you should look more into Indian films. Most of the films released in India create controversy. Recently a hindi movie called Singh Is King generated a lot of ire saying that it portrayed the Sikh community in a bad light. You will find no shortage of controversies in Indian films.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:56 am
atulajith: I agree completely with your comment!
August 14th, 2008 at 4:05 am
submission absolutely chilled me to the bone
August 14th, 2008 at 4:20 am
I’ve only seen the DaVinci Code and Life of Brian out of those. The DaVinci code was meh (the book was better), Life of Brian was hilarious! I’d like to see Stigmata though.
August 14th, 2008 at 4:20 am
jamie – maybe i should check out the original exorcist then! the shock value was what i found humorous
August 14th, 2008 at 4:20 am
This was an awesome list! I loved most of these movies. Gotta pick on the weirdness of all religions…..The ones I haven’t seen I will be soon!
August 14th, 2008 at 4:40 am
The fact that this list is not ‘Christian-centric’ is commendable in the extreme (not that I adhere to any religion) – however, I believe that ‘The Devils’ (directed by Ken Russell, starring Oliver Reed and Vanessa Redgrave) is a notable omission from this list (having said that, it doesn’t even make the list of ‘notable omissions’!). It tells the story of Urbain Grandier, a priest who (according to the film) was falsely accused of witchcraft in 17th-century France. (For more information see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Devils_%28film%29)
Admittedly, I only saw it for the first time last Sunday (it was part of a great double feature with ‘The Exorcist’), but I can’t get it out of my head, the images, the unique set design (by Derek Jarman), the brillant performances (Oliver Reed considered it his best performance, and I [not being totally simpatico with Reed's output] am inclined to agree) – it’s the very definition of ‘over-the-top’, while being totally engrossing at the same time (the more I watched, the more I was drawn into the spectacle).
Alas, I cannot go out and purchase said film (and if I could I would in a heartbeat, maybe even quicker, it’s that good) – the following is a great article (by the critic Ken Hanke) about the film, the censorship issues surrounding it, and why Warner Bros is so reluctant to release the film: http://www.mountainx.com/ae/2007/cranky_hankes_screening_room_lets_all_go_to_the_devils/
Reading over what I’ve written, I probably haven’t made that good a case (indeed, any case at all) as to why this film deserves a place in the Top 10 Most Controversial Religious Movies list – trust me, when and if you watch it, you will know.
Keep up the great work – I always make an effort to stop by the website at least once a day, and when I do, I’m rarely disaapointed by what’s offered!
The best to you all!
August 14th, 2008 at 4:41 am
ZOMG…I’m 30th!
My mother blames the fact that she was reading The Exorcist while she was pregnant with me for my problems with organized religion.
I always thought that Last Temptation was intended as a complement to Jesus. He saw everything that Satan was offering him, yet he still chose to go to the cross. Of course, “religious” folks (I’m talking militant fundies here) usually protest things about which they refuse to fairly evaluate.
Notice that you didn’t include that Jesus video that was sent out enmass here in the States about 10-years ago by some fundie group. I got 3 in the mail in one week. At one point there were so many in my tiny, rural post office lobby’s trash can that I saw a young child using them like blocks while his mother sorted through her mail. (She tossed a tape down to the boy!)
August 14th, 2008 at 4:52 am
There should be “Message”.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:08 am
Great list. I’ve seen most of these and would like to see the rest. I find all things related to religion fascinating even though I have no religion. I especially love religion-inspired art.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:08 am
11. Tempyra – Those were my thoughts, you beat me to it LOL
August 14th, 2008 at 5:09 am
I dreamt about Kevin Smith last night. He made out with my mum.
There’s a great vid on YouTube of Mr Smith picketing the cinema release of Dogma, too.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:12 am
JFrater – “If this list reaches 300 comments” I can easily see 300! If I write some provoking comments about Islam/Hinduism/Christianity/Scientology and the comments reach 400 will you send me that cool bag so I can use it for my groceries?
August 14th, 2008 at 5:17 am
Out of those, I’ve only seen two haha >_
August 14th, 2008 at 5:18 am
Wow, a movie list that includes more than one movie that I’ve seen.
Dogma was hilarious. One of my fav Kevin Smith movies. The Passion of the Christ was emotionally intense and I’m not sure if I could watch it again. I can’t say I am shocked by the reactions some people have to movies like these. Saddened but not shocked.
Oh yeah, great list Jamie! Thanks for including the clips, especially the entire film of Submission. I look forward to watching it later this evening.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:20 am
Fascinating list. I love religious art, even though I am not a religious person.
I’m also not really a Kevin Smith fan, but I loved Dogma… thought it was hilarious.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:20 am
It seems that most of these movies are directed at Christians/Catholics why is that? A short mini clip on Islam and a guy dies? Why are there not more full length movies directed at thought provoking topic concerning Islam and the so called holy war? Surely that would be well received at the box offices? People have the right to have open minds and make their own choices right? If there are such movies out there I am certainly not aware of them. If there are not why is that? Is it perhaps because people are too fearful of the Muslim fundamentalists?
Whatever the reason, whatever the religion, whoever the nation, it’s always a minority that love violence and love to fight about things. I think most people are generally peace loving and just want to be left alone to live their own lives with their own choices.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:22 am
Nice list, seen 4 of ‘em. “The Golden Compass”/”Chronicles of Narnia” would have been nice honourable mentions- they don’t particularly rank up with those ten, and it’s a bit of a stretch to call either one a religious film, but I think the controversy comes from them both being aimed at kids, y’know?
Accusations of indoctrination and such.
It seems silly, but people felt strongly. Good list!
August 14th, 2008 at 5:24 am
Stewart:
I suppose there are more Christian/Catholic films than Islamic and other Middle Eastern religions because us in the West have more liberty? I dunno.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:24 am
Stewart- Maybe it’s because Christianity is the largest religion. More people can relate to it, and understand movies about it. (not that they can’t understand movies about other religions or anything)
People write what they know about.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:26 am
Excellent list Jamie.
Thank you for providing us with the link to Submission. Excellent and disturbing. I recommend that everyone take the necessary 10 minutes to see what van Gogh died for.
I have seen all these films except the Mel Gibson’s Passion, which I will continue to avoid. I am reduced to a puddle of emotion watching Armageddon for the umpteenth time; I can’t even imagine what damage to my psyche watching a crucifixion would precipitate. Even the characters in South Park were disturbed and horrified; Stan called it a snuff film.
Water is a Canadian Film and a must see. It deserves all the awards it has received; beautiful and haunting, it’s understated condemnation is unforgettable.
I agree with Randallphobia, I thought Last Temptation of Christ portrayed Jesus in an excellent light. Highlighted his humanity, the part of Jesus I believe in and venerate. As an added bonus Willem Defoe was awesome.
Dogma is my favorite Kevin Smith film and Monty Python is always welcome. Again great list.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:26 am
…And maybe because many us know more about Western religions than Eastern ones.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:27 am
I can remember watching all but three (Water, The Last Temptation, Submission).
The film I do remember watching with my mom a while ago was something about the three children who claimed to have seen Our Lady of Fatima. Not sure if there were any controversies with that film, but figured it’d be worth noting.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:27 am
@stewart: I guess it’s the nature of the western film industry that the west is more often than not what’s focused on. There have been a ton of British indie films about Islam in the last few years (mostly how it’s adherents find identities in post 9/11 UK rather than attacks on the religion)- but indigenous films can’t really compete against Hollywood CGI-fests, so we don’t seem to see many unless we go looking for them.
That’s probably a factor. Extremists is certainly one too.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:37 am
jfrater: good list. Would you consider “The Omen” a religious film? It freaked me out when I first saw it as a kid and realized that people were dying and murdering to protect the anti-christ. Also, the Exorcist is a great film. However, I still remember seeing part three where the demon is in the hospital and takes over that little old lady’s body and she is crawling on the ceiling. To this day, I always check above me in any hospital.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:38 am
The best part is how people get so outraged before actually viewing the films.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:47 am
I’ve seen a handful of these filmes, But would like to remind the general public, that these are nothing more than films. Entertainment. You don’t have to watch them, nor sit through them.
I personally, am a conservative christian. I know it isn’t a popular world view, but I don’t go out and bonk people on the head that disagree with me. Even if they have made a movie portraying me beliefs as silly or backward.
Let movies be. I don’t have to watch them, nor like them, But I sure am not about to go out and kill someone for making them, nor burn their sets. It just isn’t right.
But as for the list, Huzzah! Another good one for listverse.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:48 am
I haven’t seen The Exorcist for years. It really disturbed me. All I can remember is a statue of the the Virgin Mary in a church, with three giant spikes coming out of it. Horrific when you’re 8 and went to a C of E school.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:51 am
Honestly, I think the film “Dogma” heavily influenced my current opinion on Catholicism; it’s super awesome and full of power! Like a mecha!! The scene with Bartleby (sp?) in the armour was just… ahh so neat.
Water was brilliant, Life of Brian is my favourite comedy and Temptation of Christ is on top of my ‘must-see’ list.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:10 am
First of all, great list Jamie.
About Life of Brian, it seems that in Wales the 1979 ban is still in place.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/07/21/bid-to-lift-ban-on-monty-python-s-life-of-brian-91466-21374987/
And on bbc news seven days later:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/mid/7530542.stm
Seems it will not be lifted tomorrow.
One should think that after 30 years people can see the movie for what it is, a typical Pyton product, but no.
And maybe you should put Last Temptation by Kazantzakis as a must read on your other list.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:11 am
This list is VERY
August 14th, 2008 at 6:16 am
This list is VERY inclusive of many of the world’s main religions, and un-biased. I love it when people can actually remain impartial and present a subject with indifference.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:22 am
I have to say, I definitely agree with Egg on all counts.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:24 am
Life of Brian is fantastic; I can see why it’d have been considered a bit much at the time though.
“So funny it was banned in Norway” hahaha
It’s just a shame these movies are biased towards christianity/catholism. It’d be interesting to see a film considered controversial for another religion. Any suggestions?
August 14th, 2008 at 6:26 am
If it weren’t for the bloody sarcasm I may have seen Submission as a worthwhile movie. Maybe they should have used an actual Muslim woman for the voice instead of that actress.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:28 am
Don’t know what happened to my previous post. Maybe it’s been eaten by the horrible internet monster.
In brief it said
Very nice list Jamie.
You should all go to google and type Life of Brian and Wales.
Seems the 1979 ban still is not lifted.
And Jamie, I think you should put Kazantzakis on your must read list, with the Amazon link. Definitely a masterpiece
August 14th, 2008 at 6:30 am
Here’s a Jesus movie based on the missing gospel, and was quite controversial in production, especially since the actor portraying Jesus looked nothing like the classic biblical images.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1328488403361728526
Enjoy!
August 14th, 2008 at 6:40 am
I’m surprised nobody’s mentioned Fitna, since it did cause quite a stir not long ago. Pat Condell’s youtube video “The Religion of Fear” calls the predominantly Muslim critics out on the stupidity of bashing the film, noting that politicians thought that the film falsely equated Islam with violence, which he said “is a bit like falsely equating Walt Disney with Mickey Mouse”, and notes that it was under the threat of violence by which the film was pulled from LiveLeak. Check ‘em both out (Fitna and Condell’s video):
FITNA:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=216_1207467783
THE RELIGION OF FEAR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3_qelW5qp4
August 14th, 2008 at 6:44 am
Great list. I feel so ignorant for not knowing that Battlefield Earth was a religious movie, all I knew was that it was a very bad one.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:10 am
Not seen them all, but the ones I have seen I really enjoyed. Some religious zealots really need to loosen up me thinks!
August 14th, 2008 at 7:13 am
I have no idea why Battlefield Earth would be considered a religious movie or book for that matter. Was the movie bad? Yep. Was it teaching about scientology? Not that I can tell. I’ve read the book a few times cause its a great story. I think anyone that thinks otherwise is simply allowing their hate for scientology get in the way. That’s not very intelligent in my opinion.
For the record, I think scientologists are a bunch of crazies. I just don’t have a problem separating religion from, well, everything. Maybe that’s my problem and why I don’t see scientology in that movie/story.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Regarding “The Last Temptaion of Christ.” I recently watched this movie for the first time and was appalled… not by the controversial subject matter, but by the quality of the film itself. The acting is just horrendous which is perplexing considering the great actors who starred in the film. The direction itself seemed amateurish which was suprising sine most of Scorsese’s films are outstanding works of art (although, I think he’s quite annoying on a personal level). The only redeeming value of the film was the beautiful score by Peter Gabriel. It’s perhaps one of the best film scores ever penned, in my opinon. Do youself a favor, if you haven’t seen this movie then just skip it and buy the soundtrack instead.
Also, regarding the controversial elements of the film..they just seemed silly and ridiculous. Almost satirical in nature. Definitely not thought provoking or serious in any way.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:25 am
Great list! I love religious lists, mainly because I love to read all of the different views in the comments. Yay for Free Speech!! Much like deedee0323, I didn’t know Battlefield Earth was about Scientology core beliefs. What embarrassment for the Scientologists. I guess I might have liked it, if I had snorted as much blow as Hubbard did. Forgive me, that wasn’t very Christian of me.. I’m one of those heretical Christians who thought The Davinci Code (the movie and the book) was brilliant. At least it didn’t make fun of my Savior, like Dogma did. I thought Dogma did go a little far, even though I am still a Kevin Smith fan. He was just trying to piss people off with that one. Again, Yay for free speech!!
August 14th, 2008 at 7:29 am
Personally, I thought Dogma was not anti-religious at all, to me it showed religion in a more modern light, taking things from the Bible and giving them an update as applies to our world today.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:34 am
hmmm good list… but Battlefield Earth JEEZE
August 14th, 2008 at 7:36 am
I think The Passionf The Christ should be number 1,
why isn’t it?, it makes u apprieciate your Lord and Savior!
August 14th, 2008 at 7:38 am
The childish smarminess of some of these comments disgusts me. You sit in front of a screen, in a civilized society that protects your ability to do just that, and make snide remarks about Christianity or conservatism or whatever your poorly formed characters deem worthy of derision. You mock Christians precisely because they will not strike back violently, despite your attempts to portray them as evil and the purveyors of ‘oppression’, which to you probably means cancelling your favorite show. Will you do the same for a religion that, if it took over, would make you really know what oppression is? No, you’ll appease them, even the so-called feminists. You won’t push for banning Muslim displays in public like you do for creches. Theo van Gogh DIED and Hirsi Ali has to have 24hour protection. What about the makers of Dogma? I didn’t think so. Watch Submission. Don’t worry, if you feel uneasy you can always go out and spit on a Veteran. Then go back to your vicarious lives.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:41 am
I loved Life of Brian
August 14th, 2008 at 7:44 am
I prefer smarmy childishness.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:45 am
Before watching The Last Temptation of Christ I thought it would be more controversial. I think it depicts a human Christ and what he shold have really been as a human being. I really cant’t understand why this film was banned in several countries since it shows that Christ after all was able to fight temptation.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:46 am
@Ralph: What’s wrong with any of the comments posted so far? Where are the snide remarks against Christianity and conservatism (I’d make one about conservatism, if you mean political conservatism, but hell, even an evil commie like me can see that not everything associated with it is evil)? What makes you think Christians won’t strike back violently? Who’s tried to convey them as purveyors of oppression? Spit on a Veteran? What do you mean by vicarious in this context?
I’m thoroughly confused. Sarcastic post?
August 14th, 2008 at 7:46 am
I loved Life of Brian, too – very irreverent, similar to Dogma. I’ve been wanting to see The Passion, but only because of the controversy. Seriously, great list!
August 14th, 2008 at 7:49 am
My husband will not watch any movies about religion. Not sure what the hang-up is about them. I enjoyed the Exorcist, but didn’t make it all the way through The Passion. Will have to watch some of the others.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:54 am
I’ve never seen Battlefield Earth,but everybody says it blows. EVERYBODY, so what does that say about Scientology??
Can anybody tell me what Scientology is really about? Is it aliens, money, or both of them?
August 14th, 2008 at 7:55 am
Maybe a list about religious films would be cool, for someone who knows something about them to do. The art of religion is probably what makes it so interesting (for me at least)- I mean, churches are the most beautiful buildings out there. Music and art (painting, I guess) too.
There’s gotta be some beautifully shot religious films out there.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:56 am
*I mean non-controversial religious films, if there’s such a thing out there.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:57 am
I’ve wanted to watch Battlefield Earth because I’ve heard it’s so bad. If you like watching bad movies (like I do) then check out A Sound of Thunder, it came out a couple years ago and the SciFi channel has been playing it in the last couple weeks or so. Even an untrained eye can see how fake everything looks – too bad, it’s a great short story, too.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:02 am
@Brickhouse
I saw the preview on Sci-Fi, I remember I thought “I would like to watch that”, but for the life of me now I can’t remember what it was about.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:03 am
I remember watching The Last Temptation with my VERY religious grandfather and my so-so religious mom. It was…tense. Life of Brian has always been my favorite Monty Python film; it’s so underrated. I love The Holy Grail as much as the next person, but Life of Brian is superb. I didn’t realize Dogma was controversial, I must have missed out on it while it was going on.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:08 am
trojan man (47) The omen WAS creepy! I saw the original a couple of years ago and usually it’s hard for me to find a scary movie to actually be scared of (The Ring and Last House on the Left are really the only two I’ve ever been seriously scared by)but The Omen was definitely freakly. Little kids are weird. I don’t know about religiously controversial though…thats a toss up.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:12 am
#40 Hobolad:
I knew that stuff about Philip Pullman books… But is the first time I read Narnia Chronicles being controvertial. What’s up with it?
Maybe I miss Jonas McCord’s “The Body” (another bad scripted one) in this list.
And some other films could be there that, like Battlefield Earth, hide an innecesary religious missage in the plot like Antony Hoffman’s “Red Planet”.
Anyway, another great list.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Stigmata was a good one too. I would think there would have been more controversy on the comments so far. Where’s Randall, or mom424? Come on people give me something good to read. Free stuff from jfrater, with the Listverse logo. How can you not leave a comment for a chance at that?
August 14th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Great List. Stigmata was a great movie and the reason I no longer go to church.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:22 am
@JB: The Narnia controversy was the exact opposite of the Golden Compass- it was seen as having an under-the-surface Christian message, and that it was aimed at kids was said to be indoctrination.
Ludicrous really
People must have a need to see a threat to their beliefs or whatever everywhere.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:27 am
I think The Exorcist is hilarious too! I like to throw back a few beers and enjoy! It’s always between The Exorcist and Pink Floyd: The Wall when I’m drinking. LOL! X-P
August 14th, 2008 at 8:28 am
The life of Brian is my ultimate favourite on this list!
I’m a red sea pedestrian!!!
August 14th, 2008 at 8:29 am
great list, but SCREW BILL ORALY!!!! KEITH OLBERMAN FOREVER!!!
August 14th, 2008 at 8:29 am
I can’t see the pictures.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:33 am
I loves me some Life of Brian.
My favorite part:
Brian addresses the crowd of followers outside his window.
Brian: You’ve all got to work it out for yourselves!
Crowd: Yes! Yes! We’ve got to work it out for ourselves!
Brian: Exactly
Crowd: Tell us more!
I think its just hilarious that thousands of fundamentalists protested a film whose primary theme was “Think for Yourself.” Really, the protests made Python’s point for them.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:36 am
The list was made assuming Bunuel never existed.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:37 am
If you want to know what Scientology is about, look up Xenu dot net.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:38 am
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August 14th, 2008 at 8:38 am
HandyMandy: A Sound of Thunder was about the future where you could take trips back in time – this was to kill a dinosaur that was already going to die. They had to stay on a hovering path and not touch anything else. One person inevitably steps off the path on accident and kills a butterfly – which causes a ripple effect throughout time. It’s very interesting, but just poorly done. — Similar idea: The Butterfly Effect, I really loved that movie (and I’m not much of an Ashton Kutcher fan, but he was excellent in it).
August 14th, 2008 at 8:40 am
Malfore – I’m not the biggest Bill O’Reilly fan out there, but Keith Olberman is a complete nincompoop. I wished he would have stuck with sports where he’s pretty good. But that show on MSNBC which I’ve watched several times is pure unadulterated crap. His combination of moral smugness and liberal chicanery is the reason why cable news has gone down the crapper. Sure Bill O’Reilly is the flip side of that crap coin, but Olberman’s foray into journalism makes me want to puke the same way I wanted to puke watching The Passion.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:43 am
Battlefield Earth isn’t necessarily a “religious” movie. It’s based on the teachings of scientology but when I watched the movie back when I was a lot younger and didn’t know any better, I just thought it was another alien movie which completely sucked ass. I had no idea what scientology was. Now that I know what it is, I can understand why the movie sucked ass. It’s the most goddamn retarded “religion”(cult) ever, even moreso than mormonism.
There are some great clips on youtube of people messin with scientologists I highly suggest everyone to watch them so you can see how demented and delusional these people are.
And Dogma is an awesome movie. How is it controversial? Because there’s a black apostle?! I think this little bit of dialogue says it all:
Rufus: “He still digs humanity, but it bothers Him to see the shit that gets carried out in His name – wars, bigotry, televangelism. But especially the factioning of all the religions. He said humanity took a good idea and, like always, built a belief structure on it.”
Bethany: “Having beliefs isn’t good?”
Rufus: “I think it’s better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can’t generate. Life becomes stagnant.”
August 14th, 2008 at 8:44 am
bucslim: thank you. Olberman is such a pansy. He does nothing but bitch and moan (much like he did at ESPN) and continue to sit in his ivory tower on the sidelines. Between him and Nancy Grace, I think I could get a show on cable and make millions by acting like an ass-hat.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Callie: agree, little kids are weird. The omen somewhat reminded me of the (I think) twilight zone movie where the kid had power over all of the adults and they just let him do anything he wanted. The adults started turning on each other and the little kid dealt with them in his own, creepy way. Yes, little kids are weird, but quiet little kids scare me.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:53 am
I love when I’ve seen movies on a movie list!
Even being the traditional Catholic that I am, I like Dogma and love Life of Brian!
I think Jews thinking The Passion of the Christ is anti-semitic is every bit as stupid as all of those Christians who blamed every Jew for killing Jesus. My friend Becky never killed anyone, dammit!
I found the Exorcist highly overrated. Maybe it had just been built up too much by the time I saw it.
I saw Stigmata not knowing the plot, just that it was a horror movie that revolved around someone with stigmata. It was profoundly stupid. I got the impression that the film maker heard that some people recieve the five wounds of Christ, and didn’t think to find out about it.
I never bothered with the DaVinci Code. People talked about it enough to know what all the controversy was about. I wouldn’t find it annoying at all if it weren’t for all the people who read it and thought it was true.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:54 am
Ahhh I remember now. Kill a butterfly in the past, mess up the future. Interesting story line. I guess with it being a poorly made movie you could use your imagingation a little.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:54 am
bucslim & trojan_man ~ could not agree more. how did that guy even get a *news* show? I’d rather hear Chris Collinsworth’s take on the day’s news.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:01 am
52. Egg
“Honestly, I think the film “Dogma” heavily influenced my current opinion on Catholicism”
You’re basing your opinion of Catholicism on a fictional movie? I find that quite sad. I was under the impression that research on *non-fiction* subject matter was the best course of action when forming opinions.
I think it’s funny how people get worked up about religious movies. I’m Catholic, but I still enjoyed a lot of the movies in that list, and they don’t change my beliefs whatsoever. Has anyone seen Frailty? That shit creeped me out…
August 14th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Naturally, I love Keith Olberman… he’s a funny bastard… whereas Bill O’Reilly is a perfect example of why I left the Right Wing in total disgust.
The primary thrust of Olberman’s show is how much he hates George Bush. Can we not all agree at least on *this,* that Bush is the most heinous, godawful president this country has had since Richard Nixon? (I feel Bush is worse).
I think Olberman is more entertaining than, say, Amy Goodman… at least he’s funny… Amy’s like listening to Debby Downer on a bad day, sometimes.
But wait… what does any of this have to do with controversial religious movies?
August 14th, 2008 at 9:03 am
Rush:
I’d rather hear Chris Collinsworth’s take on the day’s news.
That would have been a spit-take if I were drinking something. You be funny
August 14th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Great list.
But I’m surprised that no one has mentioned Jesus Christ Superstar!
Jesus and his friends singing and dancing to the tune of the Bible? Come on!
August 14th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Nobody mentioned Expelled yet?
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August 14th, 2008 at 9:07 am
WAIT:
jfrater:
The film I noticed missing here is the one made, I believe in the 70s, about Mohammed… “The Prophet” or some such title… caused widespread rioting because Muslims believe it’s a sin to portray Mohammed in any form, icon, painting, film or otherwise. Turns out the film had been made with the camera taking Mohammed’s POV… does anyone remember this?
And what about the famous “L’Age d’Or” from the 30s? The one where the Cardinals and Bishops are portrayed as rapacious skeletons? Bad omission there–another film that caused riots.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:10 am
Kreachure:
That one’s only controversial because the argument is over how badly Andrew Lloyd Webber sucks ass; is his ass-sucking worse in “Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat,” “Cats,” “Phantom of the Opera,” or “Jesus Christ Superstar”? Hmmmmmm….
Well the fun of democracy is we all get to have our say and decide for ourselves! Unquestionably, however, the suckage is great and powerful to behold.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Callie ~ Thanks, I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Olbermann is an unitelligent douche-bag. Statistically, no one even watches his show. I don’t understand why they keep his sorry ass on the air.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:17 am
rushfan: good one with the Collinsworth. I was thinking that I would rather hear Mel Tillis read War and Peace.
randall: jfrater leaving out several movies makes him my “Worst Person in the World”!
August 14th, 2008 at 9:20 am
I don’t know much about Scientology but all this obsession with Aliens and other planets is a bit strange. Now this leads me to wonder how people who are educated and I am sure there are many who are brilliant minds, can be led down a road to believe their teachings. But then again, the question is true for just about anything be it Jehovah witnesses, Catholics, Muslim, Buddhist etc. I guess at the end of the day, intellect and religion are not connected. On is a matter of logic and intelligence and the other is a matter of faith. Faith being the principle of believing in something where no evidence exists. Should evidence exist would it be faith or fact? So at the end of the day we are all some one else’s idiot. Some people at the mall tried to sell me some books and do a Scientology test with a little electronic device which obviously measured some sort of resistance through my body as the electrodes that I was holding was metallic. Being from an electronics background I assume that perspiration would affect the reading. But they asked me to think about something traumatic in the past. I though about Pamela Andersons boobs. And they looked at their meters with all sorts of nods etc. I got bored really soon afterwards because anything they asked me to think about, I just though about anything random that jolted my emotions. Like Pam or the time I was in trouble for tax etc. seems like their equipment is not that accurate because the consultants seemed to think that the responses that I got was indicative of something that I was holding back on or blocking out. So yeah I am not to impressed with planet Scientology
August 14th, 2008 at 9:21 am
I’d rather watch Chris Matthew duel Zell Miller.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:22 am
What about “The Message,” a 1976 film about the birth of Islam? When it was first released it was widely banned throughout the Muslim world, and I think sparked some riots. I saw it in the “notable omissions,” but it really deserves a spot on the actual list. It is certainly more controversial than “Stigmata.”
August 14th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Olberman needs to go back to ESPN and talk about sports. Anything else that comes out of his mouth is garbage. O’Reilly is as big a douchebag as he is though. What happened to Michael Savage and his show? That gets kicked off the air but O’Reilly and Olberman still have shows?!
Anyone remember the controversy with South Park and how they were going to show an image of Mohammed (only if comedy central didn’t puss out) and it ended up getting blacked out? They couldn’t show that but they could show “a crudely-animated video showing cardboard cutouts of George W. Bush, Carson Kressley, Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes and Jesus defecating on each other and the American flag.”
August 14th, 2008 at 9:24 am
lol Stewart. Pam’s boobs scare lots of us. I remember being accosted entering a Kroger grocery store as a child by someone trying to *give away* copies of Dianetics. He couldn’t even given them away.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:26 am
I don’t get how a moron like Olberman still has his “show” but really smart conservatives like Dennis Miller don’t. I miss the Dennis Miller Show. I don’t wanna get off on a rant here, but….
I actually bought a book of his rants. I love him.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Stewart—don’t they know the mall is where all the weirdos hang out, oh wait, I guess they would be in the right place then.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:29 am
Randall – I tried to tie in my disgust with Olberman to the thrusting feeling of puke I had while watching the Passion.
Ok that was over the top, but in no other instance do I find myself yelling at the TV screen than when he’s on the air. It’s not that he’s liberal, it’s Keith’s firm belief that if you don’t agree with his horseshit, then you are a cousin marrying, tobacco chewing, NASCAR redneck – Larry the Cable Guy style.
It isn’t news – it’s pandering and bitching of the highest order. No surprise to me, liberals never get off their ass and actually do anything besides bitching.
Oh and I liked Dogma. (film tie in)
August 14th, 2008 at 9:29 am
Randall: Er, sure… your relentless hatred for all things Webber is noted.
But regardless of how many stars you may rate the movie or the play it’s based on with, it did have controversial portrayals of Biblical characters, especially Jesus and Judas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ_Superstar_(film)#Controversy
August 14th, 2008 at 9:31 am
rushfan; Yeah I liked him too, when he did the week-end update on SNL. Then he tried to be a football announcer. Ruined him for me forever.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:31 am
rushfan – Dennis Miller is my personal hero. His HBO show as just the best. I didn’t care for his stuff on the cable news shows, but I really enjoy his sense of humor and intelligence.
Oh, and Life of Brian was good too (2nd film tie in)
August 14th, 2008 at 9:32 am
GGRRRRRRRRRRR
Correct link to Wikipedia article on Jesus Christ Superstar
August 14th, 2008 at 9:35 am
mom ~ he was the best football guy evar! The look on those guys’ faces when he made his obscure refrences was priceless!
August 14th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Rushfan: Point taken, causing the other commentators to squirm was in fact a noble act.
Kreachure, Randall: I have to side with Kreachure on this one. At the time of both the broadway showing and the film release there was plenty of criticism and controversy. Independent of the worth of the film or Webber. And I am sorry Randall but the movie has value, even if only for the following.
Yvonne Elliman is wonderful.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:47 am
yeah Mom, how can you not love these pearls…
“Big deal, so he scored. The last time I saw someone dance like that I had to pay her $20 and have my pants dry cleaned the next day.”
“That receiver was as wide open as Annabel Chong.”
“With Browns’ ticket prices what they are, you just know that all those dads who brought the entire family to sit in the ‘dog pound’ are secretly calculating how much blood they are going to have to sell next week to put
“Ray Lewis knifed through those offensive linemen like a sucker-punch switchblade slicing between the ribs of some inebriated trash-talking punk outside a sports bar.”
“I’ve seen better coverage at an Alan Keyes press conference.”
“The Cowboy’s defense has more holes in it than Ronny Milsapp and Jose Feliciano after a game of lawn darts.”
“The punt returner got smacked like Nancy Kerrigan’s knee on souvenir pipe night.”
“That secondary provides worse coverage than a Guatemalan HMO.”
“Concussion? How the hell can they tell? They’re *football* players, for chrissakes!”
“Is it just me, or are the 49ers doing an awful lot of ass-patting today?”
“Their offense is shakier than Katherine Hepburn after an all-night espresso bender at Starbucks.”
He was refreshing for a while. Anyway, I think all sports should be on HBO so the announcers can say what they really feel instead of feeding us this “hey, I’m a family guy first who loves all the players” crap.
bucslim: Life of Brian is priceless.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Randall: How old were you when you first saw Jesus Christ Superstar? I was in my early teens and thought it wonderful. I am sure that watching it again, in its entirety, may spoil it for me. Some things should not be revisited. Billy Jack also comes to mind.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:01 am
MOM:
I saw JCS when I was, I dunno… maybe 9 years old, maybe even younger. On TV. Early 1970s. I thought it was godawful then, still do. Kids I knew used to make fun of it on the bus.
Billy Jack also was total crap. Along with the Walking Tall movies. Crap, crap crap.
God, the 70s. I miss them. Such wonderful cheesy garbage.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:09 am
i watched the exorcist when i was still young and i am really really disturbed by that film and never watched it again, until now.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:20 am
I only saw parts of The Exorcist… and I’ll never watch it. Not a horror buff, actually.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Honestly, I’d like to see more non-Christian films that people get all up-in-arms about. Something that’s irreverent about another religion… I know this list has a few, I just noticed that most of them are Christian. Why is that? There are so many different types of Christianity, why is there even controversy. I suppose Harry Potter should acknowledged, though not a religious film – there was a serious up-roar about Potter calling it demonic and all.
On that same note (to get this off my chest) – My niece, who is supposed to be uber-religious (and doesn’t talk about HP) was talking about Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. She was saying how Batman Begins was demonically worse than The Dark Knight. Okay, I understand there’s some involuntary drug-use by nearly everyone in Batman Begins and the Scarecrow was creepy when drugged up… But the nearly unending murders in The Dark Knight? That’s not as bad? Anyone want to help with this one? She was saying that he favorite part was when the Joker made the pencil “disappear” – yeah… That’s uber-religious, alright.
Okay, I was just venting a bit there. Off-topic, but on… a bit.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:40 am
PS. I *LOVED* The Dark Knight and I think the unending murders made the Joker that much darker and more fun to watch – and Batman Begins was wonderful, also.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:04 am
I put off seeing The Passion of the Christ because I wasn’t sure I could take it. I’ve read and reread the story in the bible over and over again, but until you see it acted out it’s just not the same. I cried. Of course I understand that it’s just a movie and it’s just an actor, but this movie was simply amazing. Being a christian and believing in God, it hit home and made me appreciate even more what Jesus did for us.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Yes Randall, I would guess about 9 years old. Had I been a 9 year old boy I would have made fun of half naked Jesus/Hippy melodrama. But as a 13 year old girl full of teenage angst, idealism and compassion it was just the ticket. Don’t be telling me that at 9 years old you were a cynical seasoned movie critic. If I’m mistaken, I apologize, and have you recovered from the beatings on the bus yet?
August 14th, 2008 at 11:23 am
I’m glad Dogma was included in this list. That’s my favorite kevin Smith “View Askewniverse” movie.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Unfortunately, most major denominations–”Christians” and “Muslims” among them–are indeed oppressive to the human spirit. They are forms of behavior control. And it does not extend only to banning artistic or entertainment forms, but thought as well. For example, just questioning yourself (without verbalizing it to another soul) about some dogmatic beliefs of a particular faith (which shall remain unnamed) is considered “apostasy”. So the moment you start to question anything in your own head, you freak out about becoming an apostate and an infidel.
Most intolerant religious people will not get the joke of anything and will not entertain a smidge of inquisitiveness unless you swallow their dogmas whole, so we are indeed blessed to live in a society where “smarmy” comments are freely expressed and laws are in place to restrain unreasonable people from lashing out at “liberal” or “alternative” individuals.
Most skeptics, agnostics, deists, humanists, and atheists are not commonly violent, irrational beings who will strike out at someone criticizing their beliefs or practicing a different moral values system. It is usually religious intolerant fanatics who ban what they do not agree with, restrict women’s roles because they believe women are “impure” or demean man’s position of authority if they challenge the long-held religious concept of female submission, bomb women’s clinics, massacre people attending unitarian services, or assasinate liberal thinkers.
Granted, many religious people are intrinsically good and perform charity work and live by benign religious tenets. However, living a life of good deeds by considering what is more beneficial to humankind, without referring to guidance from religious texts, is more worthy of praise than doing these because some ancient word of a supreme being told you so. The majority of religious texts are full of unfair and uncompassionate behavior sanctioned by their deity. (Wasn’t Abraham asked to kill his only son? Would you have followed those instructions?)
Do not forget that religious laws advocated stoning to death disrespectful and lazy sons, executing engaged women who did not scream for help while being raped, slicing open the wombs of the pregnant women and bashing the heads of the children of enemies (while “God’s people” were allowed to keep alive and take–read marital rape–the virgins), “blood atonement” (killing dissidents), and religious conquest. So it should not surprise us now when the fanatics and “conservatives” start whining about some “blasphemy” that needs to be stopped, usually by their preferred methods of destruction of property or life.
I find most religious practices, rituals, and beliefs offensive and illogical, but I do not support banning them unless physical or emotional harm occurs. I have the right to live my life without any religious influence as much as they have the right not to do anything unless their religious guides tell them so. The exception to this laissez-faire attitude is when either stance is conducive to violence, hate, or suppression of either group or its adherents as a result of their own practices.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:25 am
This list really helped to open my eyes. I realize it’s comprised of fictional tellings loosely based on religious principles, but women keep being downtrodden so severely. The world doesn’t work very well for those who don’t have dangly bits.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:26 am
I don´t give a rats ass about religion, but I think The Passion of Christ is a great fun movie and Mel Gibson, (although a lame historian) is a quite underrated ACTION MOVIE director, possibly one of the greatest today.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Mom:
“Don’t be telling me that at 9 years old you were a cynical seasoned movie critic.”
I was a precocious kid, what can I say? An intelligent wise-ass. First kiss at 9 years old, too… on her family’s private beach. Her name was “Heather.* Nice girl, even though her mother forced me to eat steak for dinner. I hated steak. Still not a big fan of it.
But anyway, yes, I knew a thing or two, instinctively, perhaps, about culture when I was wee. I knew Jesus Christ Superstar was utter crap. (sorry).
“If I’m mistaken, I apologize,”
No need, and you’re still the hottest mom here, in my book.
“…and have you recovered from the beatings on the bus yet?”
Now whyever should I have had beatings? We ALL made fun of Jesus Christ Superstar on the bus. And I was always looked up to as the smart kid, (and also the artistic kid) and kids thought I was funny, so I got away with a lot. Also I wasn’t exactly puny, so I never got bullied or anything.
Of course not all this was due to my adept way of handling myself (far from it, I was awkward and obnoxious at times) but I had two much older, legendary brothers—they’d long since graduated by the time I was 9, but they were remembered… (small school). Big football and basketball stars, and smart guys and all that. So everyone kinda respected the ____ boys, although I paled in comparison to them. But that’s the way it’s always been. Today I’m the black sheep of the family because I don’t have a six figure income and so on. A constant struggle to come out from under their (and dad’s) shadow. Heavy sigh.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:32 am
the Exorcist still makes my hair stand on end…
Dogma is a great and funny film, how could anyone be offended by it?
August 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am
I personaly love these movies not because of the shock factor but because who realy knows if all of this happened, will happen, or what we are destin for. It’s all about the what if, what if there were zombies or vampires. It’s the unknown that keeps us wanting more and more. What if everything in the Bible is true? What if its not? and if so when will we find out so until then it’s nice to see what those with vision have to say.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Great list.
Did anyone else think that De Vince Code was basically a mix of Stigmata and National Treasure?
August 14th, 2008 at 11:53 am
HandyMandy #77
I think Scientology is a religion based on aliens in order to make money!!
August 14th, 2008 at 11:56 am
I think Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson make terrible authors when it comes to writing books about the historical rankings of world religions. But then, that’s just me.
I was glad to see ‘Life of Brian’ up there – all three Monty Python movies could probably have made it up there to some degree for their irreverance to certain religious tenets and practices. Monty Python rules all… IMNSHO
I’ve only seen about half of these movies, but thought Dogma was a real hoot! Intriguing list all in all.
August 14th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Hey Ralph… One word: “Crusades”
August 14th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
I thought this list was already up, seemed like ive read it before and it was still good.
August 14th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
the comments on the youtube video of Submission are a bit unsettling- the poster is an exmuslim youtuber named ‘fuckmohammed’ i think… nevertheless it’s a great film, thank you for posting it
August 14th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Randall: The Message is on the notable omissions – in fact while there was rioting at the outset, it turned out that the film did not show Mohammed’s face so there was no controversy at its release. As for L’Âge d’or – excellent mention – I hadn’t heard of it to be honest – I am glad I have now though. I own a few movies by Bunuel and have featured the andalusion dog on another list – by Bunuel and Dali.
August 14th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
great list, w00t for Dogma and Life of Brian, 2 of my fav films.
August 14th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
I hate The Passion of The Christ with every fiber of my being. It was not only disgusting, it was so self-righteous that it was tacky. I truly hate that movie.
My husband, who was raised Catholic, cried at the end. It’s amazing how our own eyes affect how we react to a film.
We were in a movie theater, my husband, my mother and I. Some random woman saw that my husband was crying, then came and knelt to pray for him.
I was appalled. I know she meant well, but I wanted to slap her in the face. I can’t really say why I had such a negative reaction.
August 14th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Marcy: I think I would feel the same way about the woman in the theater. Hell, my husband said the other day “We just believe in God, etc” and I snapped at him for that (wasn’t the first time he said it). He meant well, just like the woman in the theater. For me, it felt like I was supposed to share in my husband’s beliefs or that he was forcing them on me. But he wasn’t, and neither was the theater lady.
August 14th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
I seen the Excorist on an aircraft carrier when i was in the Navy and it still scared the s@#t out of me.I didn,t see why people were upset about Life of Brian and Dogma.It,s called satire look it up.
August 14th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
(hehe – the sh*t comes up as an email address)
August 14th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
I think “Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter” ought to be an honorable mention. Where else do you see Jesus pierce his ears and save lesbians from having their blood harvested?
August 14th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
i dont have a religion.
but good list!
August 14th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Shouldn’t The Birth of a Nation be more of a controversial racist movie? It documented the KKK during the Reconstruction years and depicted them as heroic.
August 14th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
helping to do what i can to get us to 300!!!
I didnt’ like the exorcist, the whole crucifix masterbation scene…just HORRID!!
I liked Temptation though. I watched it at home, and went through about a whole box of kleenex.
August 14th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Let me guess, you guys are atheist? Now, I hate the fact that Dane Cook steals most of his jokes but he does have one about atheists I really like. You guys should go on youtube and watch it.
August 14th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
B_Rad: I am not an atheist and I wrote this list
August 14th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Randall; Hahaha, My youngest is an obnoxious SOB; the reason he’s never had the great beat-down is solely because of his cool/smart/athletic older brothers. Also he has been taught to temper his most egregious tendencies, of course by well timed beatings from those same brothers.
August 14th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
The Exorcist scares me more NOW when I watch it then it did when I was a kid. Then you hear about all of the bad things that happened to some of the people who were involoved with the film…….that gives me goosebumps..
August 14th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
I remember when I went to see The Passion of the Christ. I went alone and I’m sitting there and notice how many couples are around me.
“of coarse, why didn’t i think of it! This IS the perfect date movie!”
anyway, i also noticed an awful lot of popcorn and sodas. Now this was the first and only time iv’e seen this film, but I was pretty sure i knew what was going to happen to the movie Jesus…so i kept glancing over at these two women voraciously munching down on a shared tub of popcorn and as the whipping of flesh commenced, the munching slowed down from 5thgear to all but stalling.
August 14th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Mom:
My brothers never did much for me in a practical sense. I guess has to do with a family being torn apart by the death of the father at age 42, when the kids are 15, 13, 10 and then 8 months old, respectively (the 8 month old being me). My oldest brother, for a short time, played surrogate dad to me but that quickly ended when he got on with college and his own life, etc. Then all he ever did after that was criticize.
My other brother–I have no memory of him ever even speaking to me, when I was a kid. My sister I’m closest to, though she’s 10 years older than me, but she’s no less critical because I’m not awash in money and/or don’t have lackeys doing my bidding, as she has.
We’re just different generations… my older siblings are all baby boomers and reformed hippies; I am Generation X (I guess?) and was a punker and always despised hippies.
August 14th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
manda:
You know, the Exorcist never scared me that much (and I saw it not long after it first came out–I wasn’t from some jaded generation that had already seen dozens of slasher flicks) and still doesn’t today–rather, it *repulses* me. It’s a great film but…. there’s something black and dead in the center of it. It has no humanity.
August 14th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
159. joebecca – August 14th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I didnt’ like the exorcist, the whole crucifix masterbation scene…just HORRID!!
Don’t knock it till you try it. :O
August 14th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
woa, I can’t believe “battlefield earth” has appeared on the last 2 lists. Wouldn’t it be funny if Listverse was in fact a scientology brain washing site. You know the power of suggestion thing, they just keep mentionning it here and there just like planting scientology seeds in the deep parts of our brains?
Of course I’m just kidding! Great list, I haven’t seen all of the movies and I don’t think I will. But very interesting to read about them anyways.
( pick me!
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August 14th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Sorry, I was referring to the wives that said they get all crazy when their husbands do or say anything religious or pertaining to religion.
August 14th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
“Submission”–Wow, that was powerful. Abuse against women occurs everywhere, but because of the male dominance in the Islamic culture, women can’t escape. Very sad.
August 14th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Doesn’t all religion teach us to be nice to other people? So any religious people rioting or sending hate mail, isn’t that not being nice? Would Jesus do that? No he wouldn’t He has a sense of humor!
August 14th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Every one of those movies gained fame and better box office ratings cause of those controversies. if you want a movie to fail then leave it alone.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Avi: indeed – the same is true of this site – controversial lists garner a much greater number of comments than regular “brain” lists.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
glittershrooms: I think you need an auditing session – you are clearly delusional!
August 14th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Jayme: yes – it is quite ironic I guess.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I don’t know if it qualifies as being “most controversial” (since nobody went to see it), but “Golden Compass” really rubbed some people the wrong way.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Randall, I totally understand where you are coming from….I did first see the movie as a child and I don’t think that I really understood what was going on. But when I saw it as an adult, I realized what was happening, and it scared me as well as repulsed me.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Golden Compass rubbed me the way movies that suck rub me. Which would be a way I don’t particularly enjoy.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
#2 Submission was a very interesting piece. Some of it was hard to listen to not due to quality but because of content.
On the other hand, Dogma is a great movie and I remember the high contraversy behind it.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
All three monty python movies are heavily influenced by religon, the first festures such goodies as the “Holy hand grenade of antioch” – however their main focus is political commentary of what was going on at the time in the world – in the life of brian they likend the jews in modern day isreal to the romans, but in a funny reversal the aincent jews were likend to the modern day palistinians http://www.epicure.demon.co.uk/whattheromans.html – and in the Holy Grail one of the reoccuring theme was man being in awe of god – and god not being to happy with it, oh that and immigration into the UK. The meaning of life also was rather focused on religion – however it was a sell out so i shall not speak of it!
August 14th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
I want that mug…
August 14th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Oh my! I haven’t seen any of these. I need to get cracking.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
wewt
August 14th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Of those all ive seen are Dogma and the last temptation of Christ, both bloody good films in different ways lol.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
now im going to have to rent the last temptation of christ
August 14th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
glittershrooms:
Top 10 problems with Scientology
Oh wait, I get it now, it’s been Reverse Psychology all along! I’m on to you, Frater!
August 14th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
What only 186 comments…
Comment dammit, I want that bag!
August 14th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Another great list I enjoyed. I think Rosemarys Baby, Constantine and Devils Advocate should be on the next list. They give a good perspective of the other side of Religion.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
I was reading The Last Temptation of Christ and, without thinking, stuck in my backpack to read at school one day. I was about 13, so this would have been 1979 or so.
In Texas.
You would have thought I was reading directions on how to sacrifice babies. I think that when I graduated a few years later people still remembered that.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
All this controversy over stories and myth. Cute little religious people. god bless ‘em
August 14th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
The exorcist is kinda disturbing.
August 14th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
B_Rad -
J is most certainly not an atheist. but i am! i just edit lists…not write ‘em.
August 14th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
I Like that mug too, Scott.
August 14th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Hey – I just made a minor change to the way comments work – please let me know if you experience any problems
August 14th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Boy do I remember Life Of Brian, had visions of aliens with eyes in their hands and roman soldiers running around my bed, and vikings for some reason, I was young and had high fever, but it was scary :S
August 14th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Argh come on people, talk!
Scientology! Christian Bias! Bill O’Reilly! John Travolta! Tom Cruise! Mel Gibson! Xenu! Talk about ANYTHING! >:(
August 14th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
hehe nice try Kreachure
The prize is slowly slipping away…….
August 14th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
To Ralph:
Sorry, but I just had to respond to Ralph. I do this not out of “smarminess,” but the fact that his comment (#70) is the most hateful on this particular list, & I’ve read all 190+ that are currently up. I’m breaking down the parts that have me confused, & the last thing that I wish is to be disrespectful. Here goes:
1. “The childish smarminess of some of these comments disgusts me.” – Show me these smarmy comments. Most were light-hearted & silly, but few none are true attacks.
2. “You sit in front of a screen, in a civilized society that protects your ability to do just that, and make snide remarks about Christianity or conservatism or whatever your poorly formed characters deem worthy of derision. You mock Christians precisely because they will not strike back violently, despite your attempts to portray them as evil and the purveyors of ‘oppression’, which to you probably means cancelling your favorite show.” – I can see how my earlier comment can be seen as an attack on certain conservative Christians, but I don’t just mock this group. I think that extremism of any sort is dangerous. I openly mock extremists in the Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, liberal, animal rights, environmentalists, atheists, homosexual, heterosexuals, birdwatchers, feminists, etc…
3. “Will you do the same for a religion that, if it took over, would make you really know what oppression is?” – I’ll mock them in a heartbeat. I do know what it’s like to have people who claim to belong to a religion of peace try to bully me (childhood & adulthood) just because I admitted that I had doubts. I live in the Bible Belt. I have had at least 10 “Christians” threaten to kick my behind because I didn’t belong to their brand of Christianity. Jesus would’ve been offended.
4. “No, you’ll appease them, even the so-called feminists.” – Yes I have, & it was the hardest fought ‘B’ that I earned in college & I’m proud of it.
5. “You won’t push for banning Muslim displays in public like you do for creches. Theo van Gogh DIED and Hirsi Ali has to have 24hour protection.” – Extremists of any stripe are bad.
6. “What about the makers of Dogma? I didn’t think so. Watch Submission.” – I know a guy who used to play golf with a Catholic Bishop (answering the phone to have someone ask for you to wait for the Bishop is surreal) & is Catholic. He said that Dogma hurt him…he laughed too hard. Haven’t seen Submission; where can I find it?
7. “Don’t worry, if you feel uneasy you can always go out and spit on a Veteran.” – My grandfather, great-uncle(WWII vet who both earned medals) & my uncle (Vietnam) loved Dogma.
So sorry that this was so long. I was irritated.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
For all I heard about Battlefield Earth being a bad movie, I don’t ever remember it being truly related to Scientology other than the fact that Travolta was in it. I must have been in a haze during the release.
I have only seen about 5 of these movies – most were okay, although Stigmata was one of my favorites, only because Gabriel Byrne was in it!
August 14th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Oh yeah – I passed on The Passion of the Christ after viewing it (which was really hard due to being all in subtitles – I have a tendency to walk in and out of the room during movies I watch at home) to my mom. She couldn’t figure out how to operate the volume on my dad’s stereo system, so she watched it without the voices and soundtrack. She was surprised when I told her about the soundtrack but thought it being subtitled was easier to watch without the distraction of the sound.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Me again, but I found this amuzing. Won’t be as long:
Had a college Lit professor who, though he admitted that he was non-religious, was still seen in the company of the most conservative Christians at this small, rural Texas college. One year his wife gave him “The Life of Brian” for his birthday, & he decided to show it in class as an example of satire the week after he got it which also happened to be the week before Easter (he still SWEARS that he was clueless, not malicious). The Baptist Student Union(BSU) (whose sponsor was one of his best friends) lodged a protest with the Dean & gave the professor a hard time. Eventually all was settled with no real hurt feelings, but for years, every time Easter was coming around, BSU members would come around & laughingly reminded him of his promiss to not show the movie again.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
This is a little off topic but should still count towards the contest: Since Battlefield Earth has been mentioned on several of your list, why not make a top 10 list of:
A) Why we really liked Battlefield Earth but are ashamed to admit it.
B) Why Battlefield Earth should be made into a sequel.
C) Why Battlefield Earth is responsible for making Scientology more/less popular.
Just food for thought based on some observations.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
I think Dogma is a pretty awesome movie. It’s interesting and weird and all kindsa neat. I think I’ve seen stigmata before, but I can’t really recall what it is about. I remember being really scared by the Exorcist when I was little even though I was not an easily scared child. I’d like to see the Da Vinci Code though, but I have the feeling it will confuse meee
August 14th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Mark: nice idea but I don’t know if I could hold back the vitriol
kat: Da Vinci code is appallingly bad – I don’t recommend it at all.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Wow, I guess I’m a little late 199 comments!
Great list by the way. I skimmed over most of the comments. I don’t think anyone has mentioned Magdalene Sisters. If you haven’t seen it you are lucky.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318411/
August 14th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Wow I’m a little late 200 plus comments. Great list by the way. I skimmed most of the comments and didn’t see The Magdalene Sisters. If you didn’t see it you are lucky.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318411/
August 14th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Randallphobia said:
“Haven’t seen Submission; where can I find it?”
It’s closer than you think…
August 14th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
On the lighter side Sister Act 2 was very Controversial in my mind because after seeing the first one why would they ever make a sequel?
August 14th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Good one Kreachure! I never submit…my wife just beats me down daily.
However, I am mildly curious about this movie. I found 5 entries for Submission on IMDB, but one is a 1995 short staring Benicio Del Toro with no plot description & the other 4 have descriptions that sound like soft-core bondage porn from the US & Europe. I’m really curious about that movie that Ralph mentioned.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
jfrater: I hope you’re referring to the Da Vinci Code movie only, cause in my opinion the book itself was a very entertaining read. The movie certainly wimped out on the “controversial” aspects that the book fleshed out, and somehow the great action and excitement of the book got half lost in its translation to film.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Ralph- you criticize people for attacking Christian religions, then in the same paragraph, you attack the religion of Islam. If you expect people to treat your religion with respect, you have to show other religions respect. You can’t attack other religions with hateful stereotypes and gross exaggerations, then expect no one to attack your religion.
I myself am a devote Catholic, yet I don’t put other religious groups down, because that is not what Jesus would want me to do. Before you start attacking Muslims again, remember that Christians and Muslims share an Old Testement. We are people of the same God, so when you attack the religion of Islam, in a way, you are attacking God. Think about it.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
I read The Exorcist when I was 9. But then I was too little to see the movie when it came out. Isn’t that funny. It’s also the only movie on this list I’ve seen. I definitely need to get out more. Or hit the video rental place more than once a year.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
I don’t know how I feel about these films. If a film is good, it’s good. People need to understand that some of these are based on fiction – such as The DaVinci Code. It wasn’t meant to be a true story. And The Life of Brian is hilarious. It’s looking at the story of the times Christ lived in from a modern comedic point of view. As for The Last Temptation of Christ, I’ve never seen it. It says in the Bible that he was, indeed, tempted by the devil, on many occasions, but I don’t know if we need to see what’s going on in his head.
And, of course, everything will offend someone out there.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Wha?!
Vera Lynn!
your like the third person i can recall today bringing up “when they were 9″
Hell, i’ll give a prize away to the ninth person who brings up, “when they were nine” within the next nine hours.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
I read IT when I was nine. Coincidence? I think not.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
So. I think the comments are starting to lag. Therefore I am going to put in my two cents worth. (However pathetic it may be)
or The Last Temptation of Christ. Which seriously bums me out. I may have to download.
I’ve seen a few of these movies. Most recently The Passion Of The Christ – mainly because my church plays it a couple times a year. It was a well made movie.
The Da Vinci Code SUCKED. Especially if you read the book before you saw the movie. Which I did. And I wish I had NEVER seen the movie. Tom Hanks… ugh.
I never got a chance to see The Exorcist
I realize this comment totally sucked, but maybe people will start posting comments again.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Battlefield Earth is one of the few movies in my life I’ve started watching but didn’t finish. Most of the other involved Greg Kinear.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
blacksunshine: you really should see the Exorcist – it is amazing. I recommend the original rather than the new one.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Oh – remember everone – register if you want to be counted for the prize
August 14th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
I’m with you blacksunshine!
It’s never too late to watch the exorcist! I myself haven’t seen last temptation, I don’t know why. I do remember the movie theatre being picketed when I was a kid and it was on the news.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
rushfan: battlefield earth is one of the worst films I have ever seen.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
And the download process is underway. I do have to thank listverse. Without this site I would not have downloaded and watched such gems as: A Clockwork Orange and Eraserhead (thanks to Slick)
And jfrater, I made sure to download the original. Though before your comment I had no idea there was a new one. Probably for a reason, eh?
August 14th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
jfrater, then i feel entirely justified in not forcing myself to watch it in it’s entirety.
Dude, I saw Clockwork Orange when I was young and impressionable and it left a scar on my pre-pubescent brain.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
blacksunshine: in the new one they added a few cut scenes which I think disturb the natural flow of the film. The director initially left them out for that very reason but decided that it should go in in the remake – most likely for financial reasons rather than artistic.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Clockwork Orange is an all-time great film too – I love it.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
i once had lunch with william blatty’s son and mother , surounded by dixieland music in one of those revolving restaurants on top of a skyscraper, in new orleans.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Ya know rushfan, the way it looks right now, me and you are the only ones in the running for winning some listverse loot. (yes I realize that could change.)It’s on rushfan. It’s on like donkey kong.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Let’s get ready to rumble! How much time do we have left?
August 14th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
time? do you mean how many comments do we have left? and by my crappy math skills count we have 72 comments left.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Oh, snap! I just thought of another controversial religious movie! SAVED! It was hilarious. McCauly Culkin in a wheelchair. Does it get any better than that? I submit that it does not.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
i remember seeing A Clockwork Orange AND The Exorsist when I was nine.. and you thought you had scars Rushfan!
I haven’t seen or read or wanna read “A Davinci Code”
Does Tom Hanks pull his mask off in the end and reveal that he’s….
da vinci?
August 14th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
No, don’t we have to do it in 24 hours or something? Did I make that up in my head? Let me go re-read the rules. I could be wrong…
August 14th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
I’ve had nine, count’em, nine nightmares about tom hanks’ hair in the divinci code.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Yeah, I’m wrong.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
did anyone read the celestine prophecy? i remember that being HUGE for a while. I skipped it. i do own A Course in Miracles, but it was a gift.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
wow, am i gonna bend the space/time continuum by repeat posting so much?
August 14th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Saved. That was a good movie. I don’t remember too much about it, but didn’t Mandy Moore get hit by a bus or something? That makes it an excellent movie in my eyes.
The first time I tried to read A Clockwork Orange (like a week or two ago) I was absolutely hammered. NOT a good book to try and read drunk. I kept trying to tell myself “I am NOT that drunk!” So, consequently I decided to watch the movie before reading the book. And man, that is one screwed up movie. I love it.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
lmao at your comment about tom hanks hair rushfan. He is seriously one ugly dude. It kinda disturbs me. (I am a bad person for my opinion on his ugliness?)
August 14th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
NO, we are all entitled to our opinions! Fear not! Opinions are not unlike assholes, everybody has one.
I try not to read or post comments drunk. I am much more successful at the former.
Why do I suddenly feel like James Thurber?
August 14th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
i love this list..so controversial…
August 14th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Who is James Thurber?
I could google it, but I will not. I must eat my m&m’s and sit here on listverse until comment 300!
August 14th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
now you know if you bring up “when I was nine” within the ninth hour You Will have to send me your home address, so that I can send you “the prize”.
you must ask yourself a very specific question, which is, “do I really want “DIogenes” knowing where I live”?
Didn’t Martin Scorsese use his own voice for the lord of darkness?
August 14th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
plain or peanut???
August 14th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
I have a very specific answer to your very specific question. Nope.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
rushfan: plain. i wont eat peanut. but i do like peanut butter m&m’s. Odd?
August 14th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Blogball(206) I did see that movie and it really haunted me. It struck a chord in me. I know you didn’t like it, but I saw it at a time in my life when I needed to see it. It opened my eyes to abuses I had refused to acknowleged.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Diogenes(214) That’s one of the reasons I put my age. I believe it was segue, and Anon. And now Rushfan.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
I loved “The Passion of the Christ”. As a Christian, it really put things in perspective, and I actually felt the suffering and compassion in a way that I never did in Sunday school. Brilliant. It also made me feel the love and hurt that the apostles felt for Jesus. I’ve never seen “The Last Temptation of Christ”, you’ve peeked my interest, and I must check it out. Thanks for the great list.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Thurber is an author, and if I remember his writing correctly (which I very well may not) it was a dry wit.
I go back and forth on the plain vs peanut debate. Ooooh, peanut butter. My fave ice cream is peanut butter and chocolate. It’s hard to find a descent one, but Baskin Robbins has the best.
Vera Lynn ~ did you see the Virgin Suicides?
August 14th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
blacksunshine (245) We used to male or female M&M’s. You know, with or without nuts!
August 14th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
used to “say” I mean
August 14th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
I saw Passion of the Christ as a, i dunno, let’s say, curious non-believer who considers Jesus a historical figure who is mis-used by the very religion he inspired, and I was very moved. Saw it at the theatre, which says a lot, cause i don’t go to the movies a lot due to offensive odors and rude movie-goers.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Heck yeah Rushfan! (On the ice cream. Thats all I will eat for ice cream.)
Vera Lynn, that totally cracked me up about the male/female m&ms. I’m gonna have to do that with my daughter.
August 14th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
You have a daughter?? So do I! How old is she? I may have to ask you for sage advice, mine’s only 12 1/2 months! And Vera Lynn, I didn’t know you had a son. How old is he?
August 14th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Rushfan (249)Yes I did. When the first one is impaled on the fence creeped me out for a while. But I was suffering a different type of abuse. That was done by Sofia Coppola. She had acted in something (last minute) and caught shit for being a poor actress. But She’s a great director.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Hey, the “featured books” on the home page keep changing. Is that a new “feature?” Get it? tee hee. I’m tired.
Vera, could not agree more. Sofia Coppola impressed me greatly.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
blacksunshine (254) Isn’t that great? I’m glad you liked it. Please use it as you see fit. It used to go like this, “Do you want some M&M’s?” “I don’t know; male or female?”
August 14th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
rushfan (254) When did I say I had a son?
August 14th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Rushfan, the daughter is three. Sage advice, I dunno if I’d be any good with that, but it’s always worth a try.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
I don’t understand why Passion of the Christ is on this list. The bible doesn’t even teach that the Jewish people killed Jesus (willing to defend my point, I’ve studied the bible all my life). That was all blown out of proportion.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Vera Lynn ~ on another list
BS, do you mind if I call you BS?
~ Three! How exciting. My daughter is entering the world of walking, talking and sleeping thru the night. Literally every day is a new joyous adventure. If I didn’t *have* to work, I would never leave her side!
August 14th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
rocknopera~let’s throw down. just kiddin’. Passion is controversial for several obvious reasons: Mel Gibson. hello.
the passion play. gretuitous or no?
August 14th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Wow… I go away for a few hours and the comments are almost to 300 anyway.
Am I the only person who hasn’t seen The Exorcist?! Of the ones on the list I’ve only watched Monty Python’s Life of Brian and Dogma. I have no intention of watching any of the others, although I’d probably read them if they were books.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Yay! Tempyra’s here! Yes. You are literally the last person on Earth not to have seen the Exorcist. Except pygmies. They don’t count.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
rocknopera…i’m waiting…i gotta go to bed soon, so get your aforementioned “point” you’re willing to defend together and bring it on…
August 14th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
V. funny rushfan :-p
Seems I may have been wrong about the heated arguments on this list… people are more interested in the prizes
I was right when I predicted that Passion of the Christ movie would be here though
August 14th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Rushfan (215) I hate when people say they saw the movie “IT” and thought it was scary. The movie was a waste of time. The book, however, scared the shit out of me. I don’t know how long it took you to read IT but I read it in hours. Seriously freaked me out. Was too funny tho when Bowers was lighting his farts on fire in the junkyard!!
August 14th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Any movie that gets a laugh at a religion’s expense is going to be controversial. I personally love Dogma because it is quite funny; I understand why it is controversial, but I think it should just be there for people who want to have a good laugh.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Tempyra The Exorcist is a book. I recommend it over the movie. But the movie is astonishing. It will not disappoint.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Vera Lynn ~ Agree whole-heartedly. IT is my personal favorite King book. The movie was a disgrace to the integrity of the book. How they managed to *not* make Pennywise scarey is beyond me.
Tempyra ~ The pygmies don’t find it funny.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
30 to go and I have to go off to bed.
If no one has posted in spot 271 when I hit refresh, it’s off to dreamland for ol’ rushfan…
August 14th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
boo. sadly, the screen shows it’s 8:30 so I seem like a dork going to bed at 8:30 at night, so I just thought I’d mention it’s 10:40 here in Tejas and I have to get up at 5:40 in the a.m. and work for 10.5 hours straight. That’s right, in. a. row. I shit you not. Sweet dreams, all.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
rushfan: night night
We will no doubt hit 300 and you will still be in to win
August 14th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Vera Lynn: Maybe I’ll read the book. Books don’t scare the shit out of me like movies do
Hows that Rubik’s Cube going?
August 14th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
It’s interesting to note that, while funny, the Monty Python movie mentioned above is actually factual in a sense. During Jesus’ time, there were many “messiahs” preaching; it only happens that Jesus was the one still worshiped.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
rushfan My fave King book is “The Stand” I have read it at least 6 times.
Tempyra (274) It’s not. We all gave up. I’ll mail it to you or segue. We are done here!
August 14th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
I did predict that Da Vinci Code and Passion of Christ will be in this list.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Vera Lynn: If all else fails you can always take it apart and put it back together in the ’solved’ position
August 14th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Three cheers for Dogma! Very entertaining list. I’m probably the only guy on earth, who hasn’t seen The Exorcist, although I saw the crappy prequel.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
rocknopera: (#260) i’ll take the challenge. it isn’t a very big deal to me, we were all involved, but the jews are specifically mentioned as being complicit in the death of Christ.
in the book of Acts 2:22-23 the apostle paul speaks “Men of Israel,(this means jews) listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know– this Man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death.”
in the book of Matthew in 27:24-25 “When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!” All the people (that is, the people of jerusalem…the jews) answered, “Let his blood be on us and on our children!”
again in Acts 4:27-28 “For truly in this city there were gathered together against Your holy servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose predestined to occur.”
it isn’t a huge point, but i didn’t understand all the protesting by the jews prior to the release of the film.
jews were involved along with everyone else there.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Hi MPW What was the prequel? The original and the directors cut were both good.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
MPW: You can join me (and rushfan’s pygmies) in the “freaks who haven’t seen The Exorcist club’
August 14th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Tempyra (278) That’s cheating!! Teasin’. Im ready to do anything. It’s so scrambled! We have all just given up. There is no way out. Chess, anyone?
August 14th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
(Long time reader, first time commenter)
The Excorcist gave me an unsettled feeling that took weeks to shake off.
I watched the Passion of the Christ to see what the fuss was about and had to turn it off halfway through just to reconnect with reality. I had that feeling of nail-biting edge of the seat anticipation that usually comes with a cliffhanger for the whole movie.
Dogma is just awesome. I watched that as a Catholic schoolgirl with a friend of no particular faith and there were a few moment where I laughed so hard I ended up in a coughing fit while she looked at me and asked “Um.. what’s so funny?” (That could’ve just been my sense of humour though)
August 14th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Vera Lynn: I believe the prequel was called Dominion, maybe I was too harsh by calling it crappy, it wasn’t all bad. I’m up for a game of Chess.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
woo hoo, 286!
August 14th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
I don’t know it, but would love a good game of chess. Or any game that requires strategy.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
doing my part for king and country getting the coments up to 300.great list and i enjoyed reading the comments for once.as for my opinion?birth of a nation probably deserves more than an honerable mention if you ask me.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
honorable rather.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Vera Lynn: I’ll teach you how to play and then we can watch The Exorcist prequel, or maybe you can teach me Algebra, I need to brush up on my skills
August 14th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I will help you in any way, at any time. And watch any of these movies. Just let me be in your arms. Teach me how to play? You mean chess? Hahahaha
August 14th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
MPW Ohhh. I haven’t laughed that hard in so long. You are too funny. But I will watch any movie you want as long as you’re next to me, hiding the scary parts. I would love that. To hide in your shoulder.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Stigmata is one of my favorite movies. I am also pleased to not just see Christianity on this list. Submission was very powerful, thanks for posting it. It’s a shame more cannot be done for people who need help. I also didn’t know Battlefield Earth was the scientology story – all the more reason for me to never waste my time watching it. Great list.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
MPW We can watch any of these. I welcome the experience. Which would you pick first?
August 14th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
OH! arent i lucky, got in at #295, must be a record. oh well…
… Always look on the bright side of life
August 14th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Great list, but how about Monty Pythons “Holy Grail”?
“i fart in your general direction”
“Your mother is hamster and your father smells like elderberries”
Gotta love Python
August 14th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Rushfan I’m with you. Too tired. Goodnight all. Jfrater, MPW, Astraya, etc. Good Luck, yall.
August 14th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
I agree with Randall, “L’Age d’Or” should have been one of the top movies in this list. The movie was not screened in US until 1979 according to Wikipedia.
This definitely is a serious omission.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Vera Lynn: We would watch them as follows 7,10,5,4,2,1,8,6,3
nighty night btw
August 14th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Night all. Watch those movies
August 14th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
MPW where’s #9? Or are you omitting it on purpose?
Night. XX
August 14th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
an intentional omission
August 14th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
It’s competition time!
August 14th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
I never thought the Excorcist as a failure of a movie. It was brilliant. Everyone knows what is is/was.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
religion will be the death of us all.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:04 am
leinad – its already managed to knock off a couple of people
August 15th, 2008 at 12:38 am
yikes exorcist was creepy! wen she runs down the stairs . . and the da vinci code? the book is brilliant! . . hmm the movie was ok . . anyways unfortunately those are the only two i have seen . . its movie watching time wooo
August 15th, 2008 at 12:50 am
more than 300 coments already
August 15th, 2008 at 12:51 am
nice compilation
i had a feelin, last temptation….. wud take the top spot
August 15th, 2008 at 12:53 am
Water isn’t that great a movie and there’s not a lot of religion in it. Just goes to show how you can get people worked up over nothing.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:48 am
I liked this list, I for one didnt know some of these movies were met with such hostility.
August 15th, 2008 at 3:39 am
How about “The priest”. It was pretty controversial at that time, It dealt with homosexuality among their ranks and during that time, gay movies were so very much limited. I don’t know if it was as popular as the films listed above or was it even shown in the US as it was quite a low-budget film.
August 15th, 2008 at 3:52 am
Touching religion is a risky business, id imagine far more so in the film business.
I think anyone willing to have a crack at religions like Islam (even for ten minutes it seems) has massive cohones
August 15th, 2008 at 5:34 am
BLIND FEARS=RELIGION=HALLUCINATIONS=
August 15th, 2008 at 5:36 am
313 comments are too many for me to get through right now, so if anyone’s already made the following point, I’ll apologise, although it’s certainly a continuation of Dopp., (313).
Who would be courageous enough to make a film of ‘The Satanic Verses’? Could anyone think of a better way of signing your own death-warrant?
It’s always struck me as curious and deeply ironical the way these overwhelmingly powerful and deeply-entrenched beliefs have no confidence that they can withstand any questioning or criticism. Thou shalt not teach evolution. And yet questioning and criticism are essentially the very basis of scientific progress.
I do, though, remember reading somewhere about Jesuits in Latin America; Mexico, I think. In their theological colleges they decided to strengthen the faith of neophytes by appointing some as devil’s advocates. They were to try to break belief of the rest, no holds barred, by adopting rational counter arguments of the type common to agnostics and atheists. Apparently the *advocates* were so successful at turning others and themselves away that the scheme had to be dropped.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:47 am
@ Judas Iscariot.
or at least misunderstanding hallucinations. whats the word for “applying meaning to something that has no meaning”?
I never cease to tell my christian friends who talk about faith building ‘n’ such that blind faith is one of the most dangerous things in the world as any historian will tell you.
@ Anon.
that’s really spooky man, I heard a few not-so-good-things about Jesuits and “secular infiltration”. I watched a documentary on it and a year after it was made, the guy who made it was dead in “mysterious circumstances”
August 15th, 2008 at 5:48 am
Btw, im now going to look up the satanic verses
August 15th, 2008 at 5:54 am
I think that in the world to the word “blaspheme” is thrown around a bit to liberally.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:03 am
Wow. I just watched “Submission”. I can clearly see why it was included on this list. It is sad that it caused so much violence. Being in the first person, I think it really makes the film seem more truthful and real to the viewer. Surely the director and writer knew the danger of attacking such a subject, but I guess their beliefs outweighed their fears.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Very good list. I liked the fact that “Passion” played out like an action movie.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:44 am
You think so? It might be the Mel-Gibson-Touch
August 15th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Norman Jewison’s film version of “Jesus Christ Superstar” was also pretty inflammatory at the time it came out. Being Catholic, I can say I’ve seen these movies and the only REALLY offensive one is Dan Brown’s. His lack of research was amazing.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:29 am
Doppleganger: I have a couple Jesuit friends and they are REALLY SCary . . . they do things like feed people in India and teach at schools . . .what’s this world coming to?!
August 15th, 2008 at 9:33 am
I watched the Da Vinci code the other night and despite the debunking, I still find it a good movie from an entertainment perspective.
Our school recently did the JC Superstar play and I don’t know if it was the players or what but it painted Jesus in a very wussy light. I mean considering that he could practically knock a squad of men over by simply saying “I am he” I think he would carry with him an incredible presence of authority.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:33 am
By the way, God doesn’t believe in Atheists, therefore they don’t exist.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Cubone: WOW FREAKY!
August 15th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Doppelganger, (316),
“I watched a documentary on it and a year after it was made, the guy who made it was dead in “mysterious circumstances”
Yeah, makes you feel safer not expressing certain opinions under your real name here, eh?
Hey, jfr, would it be possible to rustle up at least 10 names of people who died by assassination or under mysterious circs after *whistle-blowing* or attacking some belief or powerful society, or similar? These are valiant individuals who defend against sinister corporate manipulation and we should keep their names alive and appreciated. They are the saints and martyrs of the common man and freedom of thought and expression. I imagine it would include a lot of journalists, such as that woman in Ireland who was shot by the drugs thugs.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:38 am
I loved JC superstar when it came out . . .I still do (rock on!)
August 15th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Sounds like a good list to me
August 15th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Cubone,
If atheists have stopped God existing because they don’t believe in Him and God has stopped atheists existing because He doesn’t believe in them, looks like we have the makings of a great comedy film (movie) which is halfway between sci-fi and controversial religious, where all that are left fighting it out are The Devil and the believers!!!
August 15th, 2008 at 9:49 am
He’s not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy!
and…
Vewy well! I shall welease… Wodewick!
Centurion: Sir, there’s no “Wodewick”.
Pontius Pilate: Who is this “Wodewick” you speak of?
Man in crowd: He’s a wobber!
Man in crowd: And a wapist!
Girl In Crowd: And a pick-pocket!
Got to love life of brian
August 15th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Call me crazy but I believe the hitch hikers guide had a gag like that. Someone lured God into making a contradiction, I believe, which ended up making him non-existent. and as always, hilarity ensued
August 15th, 2008 at 9:52 am
HEY ANON!
Let’s get Kevin Smith to make the movie, it would be awesome!
August 15th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Ravstar: I remember Michael Palin in an interview (with parkenson i think) was talking about how people heckled that wodewick gag to him.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Anon (327) What was that movie with Meryl Streep? It was based on a true story and she also was killed. I think it had something to do with nuclear energy. She would be on the list you suggest.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Vera Lynn ~ It’s called Silkwood
August 15th, 2008 at 10:43 am
. . . and Jimmy Hoffa!
August 15th, 2008 at 11:13 am
#70
I am a veteran from a line of veterans that extends to the Revolutionary War. My ancestors are American patriots!!
And I am an atheist. Do you remember what G.W.H. Bush said?
“No, I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.” –August 27, 1987
Don’t be so defensive of your choice of primitive blood cults. I have equal disdain for all of them.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Great list! Not much to comment on (love Monty Python was added on here). Keep ‘em coming!
August 15th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Oddly enough, we used to be ‘…one nation, idivisible, with liberty and justice for all…’
I wonder where we went wrong??? I wonder if Ralph even reads anyone else’s responses to his mean-spirited remarks?
I’ve said it before, and will say it again, that I too am a proud soldier veteran – almost every generation of my family has proudly served our nation’s military (and before we were a nation!).
I almost hate to admit that what I hate most are hateful people.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:27 am
Sherry : Its interesting that you should make that point and im glad you did. It appears that G.H.W. Bush isn’t great on American history. The pledge of allegiance never used to say Under God. America started out non-theist as church and state were separate.
The paper money had no mention of god ether, though the masionic all seeing eye was there.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Dirty Bushes’ :
August 15th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Last Temptation of Christ IS, in fact, available through Blockbuster.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:53 am
The Doppelganger, (your 332, my 330)
Sadly, I never got to hear the entire set of ‘Hitchhiker’s’ episodes on the radio, but, believe it or not, I almost added that the perfect scriptwriter would have been the late, great Douglas Adams!
Vera (335) and rushy (336),
I immediately had Karen Silkwood in mind.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Anon, I read it in the HHG book trilogy of four parts. Watching the movie, I also think i saw it, but don’t quote me. Stephen Fry was PERFECT as the book’s voice.
“In the beginning, God created the universe. This was regarded by many to be a bad move.”
side-splitting!
August 15th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
The Last Temptation of Christ did not come to my town’s theater when it was released. To be expected since I grew up in the Bible-belt. I was always curious about it over the years but never took the time to watch it. I have it on my Netflix queue now 20 years later!
I loved Dogma and the Exorcist, Stigmata was entertaining. I think I’m the only person on Earth who has not seen The Passion of the Christ. lol
Great List! 300 comments? Jamie, you know the religious lists always garner more attention!
August 15th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Doppel, (345)
HHG was also a series on Brit TV, as I recall. The acting was good enough. The problem was effects such as Zaphod. That would be fine now with digital animation, but his *spare parts* were floppy, lifeless dummies, and he couldn’t stand against our vivid mental images from the radio. We had a ginger tomcat at the time, whom we called Beeble.
Yes, catching up on what I missed. There are so many things in life like that. Too many. In fact I’m leaving a number behind as I type. Living in Chile doesn’t make it that easy either. One has to take what comes and is available. Luckily a lot of that is great. I managed to wake myself up out of the blue without an alarm clock at 4.0 am today and witnessed a quite nail-biting olympics tennis semi-final where our hero, Fernando Gonzales, just shaded it over Jimmy Blake (US). Neither deserved to lose. O.K., so Nadal will cop the gold. But at least Chile has one medal this time round, and it can’t be less than silver.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
I didn’t even notice the Notable Omissions: The Pope Must Die(t)! Hahahahahah!!!
August 15th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Anon, I know the series you are talking about, however, I only saw the pilot on UKTV once.
I haven’t been following the Olympics, I’m not one for sport and I’ve been more interesting in following this conflict between Russian and Georgia. I can’t believe the media is demonizing Russia for saving the people in South Ossetia. Sigh. I suppose every war has a media spin on it.
Dirty Media (Angry face)
August 15th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Angelina ~ I believe there are still several pygmies who have yet to see Passion of the Christ.
(reference to my ramblings from last night. see #264)
August 15th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Big Dopper ~ I’m confused. I haven’t heard anything about “saving the people in South Ossetia.” Can you explain?
August 15th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Sure thing. a very summarised news article:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/function/0,,12215_cid_3546695,00.html?maca=en-en_nr-1893-xml-atom
That i might note was on the first day of the Olympics so was overshadowed as the world was watching beshing(cant spell it)
South ossetia is practicall russian (90% of the people carry russian passports and the region itself wants nothing more than independance from georga and they are close friends with russia)
Saakashvili Prez of Georgia attacked them (men, women, old, children, military, russian peacekeepers, everybody) on 8/08/08.
Russia demanded they stop attacking or they would intervene. Georgia did not stop, so russia went in, protected the people (many of whom fled into russia-north ossetia) by opening a can of whopass on the georgians, the georgians ran away like pussies and cryied out, look the russians are attacking! Help!
THEN the media looks back and sees russia attacking Georgia and the world gets angry at Russia.
Not exactly fair to the russians but its in the US’s best interest to back georgia as georgia is a proxy (client) state of america ever since the 90’s
August 15th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
i hit submit but nothing has happened. testing testing. i hope that went through, i wrote alot
August 15th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Ill try to break it down
Sure thing. a very summarised news article:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/function/0,,12215_cid_3546695,00.html?maca=en-en_nr-1893-xml-atom
That i might note was on the first day of the Olympics so was overshadowed as the world was watching beshing(cant spell it)
South ossetia is practicall russian (90% of the people carry russian passports and the region itself wants nothing more than independance from georga and they are close friends with russia)
August 15th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Saakashvili Prez of Georgia attacked them (men, women, old, children, military, russian peacekeepers, everybody) on 8/08/08.
Russia demanded they stop attacking or they would intervene. Georgia did not stop, so russia went in, protected the people (many of whom fled into russia-north ossetia) by opening a can of whopass on the georgians, the georgians ran away like pussies and cryied out, look the russians are attacking! Help!
THEN the media looks back and sees russia attacking Georgia and the world gets angry at Russia.
Not exactly fair to the russians but its in the US’s best interest to back georgia as georgia is a proxy (client) state of america ever since the 90’s
August 15th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
What amazes me is that Saakashvili claimed he was ridding the region of a “criminal element” AND had the nerve to accuse the Russians of “Ethnic cleansing”! Unbelievable
Putin, russian prez rightfully called saakashvili a terrorist.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
anywho i hope that answers your question. im gunna go have a nap. b back in 30.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Tempyra, MPW…pygmies.
Can I join your club? I’ve never seen The Exorcist. Plus I’m awesomely cool so really it would be the awesomely cool people only club.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Thanks, Dopphoppa. I had not heard any slant on this except that Russia attacked Georgia. I don’t trust the mainstream media to get much right, let alone international affairs. I’m gonna read up on it some more to enlighten myself.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Doppel,
I love sport, and find it tends to unite people and provide relief from depressing events that one can do little about except wring hands in horror and weep. During the long historical period we are now in between ‘Gladiator’ and ‘Rollerball’ people get beaten in sport, yes, but not deliberately killed. Duelling, as was until recently, not being a *sport* in my book.
Ashamed to say I’ve also missed out on the analysis of Georgia. Anita expects me to know these things and asked, based on the odd images and comments she had taken in whilst I was working or asleep. Thanks, now I can now offer some explanation.
Minorities fight to escape majorities, or even to join majorities. Ireland (which is the minority, which the majority?), Cyprus (same question, considering the mother-lands of both ethnic groups), Timor, West Irian, Sudan, Georgia, the Balkans, and on and on. Can there be no end to it? Sometimes it seems as if to live on an island where everyone is of the same race, culture and religious belief (or non-belief) might be the answer.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
… Tibet, Kashmir, people of British culture living on the Falklands … add your own.
No judgements offered, no rights and wrongs. Just listing a series of desperately unresolved or tragically active hot spots.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Religion fascinates me, and I have seen each of these films with the exception of Water.
My two favorites. are Life of Brian and Last Temptation.
Really really good list. I just would have put both of my faves on top.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
I think that Georgia planned it all. I think that they deliberately attacked on the day the Olympics started because the world would not see what happened but by the time they turned around, Russia would look like the aggressor.
Nobody in war ever wants to be the aggressor so they manipulate media so their actions seems right.
I think Georgia wants to run the Russians out of S.O. so they can retake it with out looking like a bad guy.
Anon, I don’t like watching sport, only playing sport; like basketball soccer and multiplayer LAN are my favourites.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Life Of Brian was amazing. I didn’t find anything wrong with it at all. Some people need to realize God has a sense of humour too, look at the platapus.
The video for the Excorsist makes it look like a cheesy horror movie. I fell asleep during it, so I can’t give too much of an opinion on it. Exorcist of Emily Rose was good though, even though the real chick was from Germany and not in the States.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Im enjoying the many nicknames im getting. So far in first place is rushfan’s “Dopphoppa”
And I havent trusted corporate media for along time. I’ll use them to tell when when something is up (if i’m not already aware), then go online to find the facts for myself
August 15th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
*giggles behind fingers like geisha* hehehe
many thanks dopphoppa
August 15th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
There must be a list in “most controversial religious books”
The father of the protestant movement, Martin Luther wrote a book called “the Jews and their lies”. I’m sure it would get a mention.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
I wasn’t aware that “Death Race” was a religious movie. If it was, it’d probably be far more interesting.
(yes I’m aware it’s an ad)
August 15th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
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When I first looked at the page I tried to figure out how I did no know that “Death Race” was a religious movie.
I’d like to add that “Expelled” should be on a list of one of the most thinly disguised religious movies ever.
August 15th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Has anyone mentioned “Agnes of God”? I’m trying to remember if that movie was all that controversial.
August 15th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
You forgot Buñuel damned trilogy: Simon of the desert, La voiée Lactée and O discreto charme da burguesia. Those are important heretic movies.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
‘Inherit the Wind’, the Scopes evolution trial. Would that be considered controversial in any way? It’s certainly not exactly a dead duck of an issue.
Hardly surprisingly, there’s no shortage of strong films based upon past *holy* intolerance and corruption, and which powerfully critize these aspects of religion. Again, being historical, they’re hardly controversial. I do, though, seem to remember Miller intended ‘The Crucible’ should be taken as such. Probably there would be faint disagreement if any with their themes nowadays though:
‘The Witchfinder General’, ‘Pope Joan’, ‘The Crucible’, ‘The Mission’, various about Joan of Arc and the crusades and ‘The Name of the Rose’ come to mind.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Hey, Doppler shift, (365),
You lookin’ for more nicknames?
August 15th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
I have yet to see Stigmata. I am going to have to check that one out
August 15th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Logar ~ It was pretty controversial if I remember correctly. And it got an honorable mention above.
August 15th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Anon, good one. How about doppoppalous?
August 15th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Passion of the Christ was a very important film. All thinking christian people who watched it were forced to abandon their christian beliefs….remember I said THINKING Christian people. It embellished much that wasn’t in the bible. If they could make THAT up, what else have they been making up for 2000 years?
August 15th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
376 rushfan, doppapotamus
August 16th, 2008 at 12:57 am
i saw stigmata
i didn’t particularly enjoy it
i thought that it was kinda boring
August 16th, 2008 at 1:22 am
378,
Dubyapooper?
August 16th, 2008 at 1:24 am
Doppa dabba doo?
August 16th, 2008 at 2:06 am
This is just getting stupid now. The Doppleganger.
August 16th, 2008 at 8:01 am
So it is, so it is. Missed that whole part because of the bonus stuff. Jfrater: can a person win twice? Cuz I’ve got that feelin’ again!
August 16th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Ouch, my knuckles hurt.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Doppelganger, (382),
Some of us find welcome relief in a bit of fun after all the brain-hurting, time-absorbing, wearisome polemics we are involved in elsewhere. A lot of *bashing* goes on in LV. Much of it is needlessly hurtful. I hope what follows doesn’t sound priggish. It’s not intended to. If you don’t like something and it isn’t actually offensive or challenging, simply ignore it, even if it’s OTT. Say nothing. That will stop it dead if it’s of no interest to others as well. Least said, soonest mended.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
uh huh. not i wasnt getting offended, it was just getting old and tired
August 16th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Oh God, so am I.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Wow, 300 comments already?
That was an interestin list, but saddly, I haven’t even seen any of the movies mentioned. Oh well. Most of them don’t sound that good to me anyways.
August 16th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Would ‘Angel Heart’ count as a religious film? It deals with the whole underground occult/ Voodoo stuff. Robert De Nero as the Devil was kick ass. He looked hot in that too…
August 16th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Gecko: I havnt seen about hafl of the myself, but you really need to see Dogma. its real funny.
August 17th, 2008 at 12:20 am
The winner is: Mark (comment 188). Congratulations Mark! Please email me (jamie at frater.com) with your choice of prize and real name and address.
August 17th, 2008 at 3:17 am
Thanks Jamie!
Winning a contest about Religious movies on a Sunday….hhmmmm, maybe I should start going to Church again. No, on second thought, I’ll just watch the Exorcist again.
August 17th, 2008 at 4:40 am
Good call
August 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am
randallphobia:(198)
ok, I understand you not liking sertain extremest groups, but others on your very detailed list disturb me? Are you saying you are against gay rights? Being a straight person myself, i am still offended. My very best freind is gay and i dont think he or ones like him appreciate ultra concervatives saying his way of life is wrong.
August 18th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I think Gays can do what ever they like, I’m all for treating gays as humans and equals, I just don’t think they sound marry.
I have a gay friend too, he’s not my best friend though
August 18th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
My ex house mates were a gay couple, in fact, they were better at being a gay couple than when they were with chicks, more organized, more polite and a shit load happier.
so to all the concervatives, get the fuck with it guys, and by conservative, you mean your a Yank, so with an attitude like that which comes from a supposedly developed country, its a fucking shame that you cant change with the times.
And, another note, homosexuality was around, what was it, oh yeah, ATLEAST 3500 YEARS AGO, fucking morons, geez
August 19th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Alright, don’t get you nickers in a twist. Im not a yank ether, I a Kiwi. and here we have a thing called “Civil Union” for gays, it’s like marriage, it just no where near as “spiritual” or related to the church as best as my take on it is. I’m all for the civil union for gays.
and in all reality homosexuality has probably been around alot more than that.
August 19th, 2008 at 12:17 am
Dopp – Sorry, wasnt realy directed at you, just a generall thought for some of the more negative posts.
on the spiritual side of marraige, i got a different view i guess, the person in which you marry, male/female/same sex, you have a spiritual connection.
your right on the homosexuality bit though, The Italians invented sex man and woman, the greeks just twisted it a bit.
August 19th, 2008 at 12:38 am
Then you might not like what I’m about to say. I follow the thought that homosexuality is a psychological condition that causes/caused by a hormone imbalance. As it is ones hormones that dictates exactly who or what it is that one is physically attracted to which in turn has effect on who/what one is psychologically attracted to.
Homosexuality strikes me as a condition that for what ever reason people to think to/decide to treat.
But I’m open to other schools of thought.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:45 am
Dopp – thats fine, like you, i wont go in to my beleifs on it, i respect a couple of your views, so let just agree to disagree on this one and keep the comment section free of our crap.
Signed into the forums yet?
August 19th, 2008 at 1:58 am
Yea iv only posted on the intro forum.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
What happened to borat…that guy singal handedly gave the impression that all kazakstanian people are well ..like he made them out to be.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Kam – kazakstan is a country, not a religion, but that being said, the Kazakstani Government wanted it pulled because it gave an unfair description of the region, good one though.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:09 am
Don’t think I was around to see this Borat. Whowas he?
August 24th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Okay, so my first post…and I’m lazy, so I didn’t read through all the comments to see if someone else already said this, but I just wanted to say that last year, when I was visiting family in Washington state, and I rented The Last Temptation of Christ at the Blockbuster down the road. So…maybe they just recently started carrying it? (Sorry for the long exposition.)
August 25th, 2008 at 1:41 am
Reya:
Yea someone has brought that up.
August 29th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Just curious J, why are you so pleased to present the Van Gogh film here. It’s available on the internet so what’s so special about showing it here?
August 29th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
I think Submission is one of the best short films I have EVER seen. It’s an amazing film, and I’ve been telling everyone to watch it.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:07 am
Tomo: because it shows censorship has failed
September 2nd, 2008 at 5:07 pm
There goes my faith in humanity.
September 25th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
I have just read that the actress who played Judith in Life of Brian is now the mayor of a town in Wales which has banned the movie. She is trying to have the ban overturned.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/film/life-of-brian-crossed-off-banned-list/2008/09/26/1222217478730.html
December 10th, 2008 at 3:56 am
I think Geert Wilder’s Fitna film is suitable for number 1 ranking for Top 10 Most Controversial Religious Movies…
December 10th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
last Christmas i saw the life of Brian on Christmas eve at the Astor cinema-for a month after i almost died trying to learn to whistle!
February 9th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
catholics…i swear they’re offended by everything!!! not trying to offend anyone..i was born catholic and remain catholic today…but really..its just a movie…>.
March 7th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Dogma was hilarious! Holy bartender was the best bit along with the Buddy Christ.
Favorite quote from this movie:
Jay: Yo man, tell me something about me.
Rufus: You masturbate more than anyone on the planet.
Jay: Aw f**k, everyone knows that. Tell me something nobody knows.
Rufus: When you do it, you’re thinking about guys.
[a shocked Silent Bob stares at Jay]
Jay: Dude, not all the time.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Ashley R: totally agree. I’m still Catholic, but I remember at my Sunday School, they used to have movie night, and just when Harry Potter had just come out they rented the VHS and so many families flipped out! People get so offended by movies, let people choose what to do. My cousin’s church tried to ban the kids at that school from seeing the Golden Compass, the movie, and I bet its not at all bad. Its a great book by the way.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
At least Jews can laugh at themselves. Can’t say the same for most Catholics. Serious bunch.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:36 am
passion of the christ
still gives me night mares
October 24th, 2009 at 1:00 am
just a week ago i saw a dvd of the last temptation of christ. i live in the philippines, so i guess it’s already allowed. O.o i didn’t buy it though