[COMPETITION: This list includes a competition.] There are many titles given to great literary works, and many awards to recognize truly great literature. This list wants to concentrate on the other side of the board: those books that are considered “classics,” but are in fact heavily overrated. These could be wildly popular books that were best sellers, but just weren’t that good, or books that are considered “among the best ever” by academics but fail as being readable or good literature beyond some fancy literary trick. In at least one case (see #10), this list also includes good books that are fun reads, but are rated way above the actual quality of writing. Here is the list of ten of the most overrated novels:
What better way to start a list than with controversy? “The Lord of the Rings” remains a cornerstone of the fantasy adventure genre, and the story is certainly epic. That being said, Tolkien was more of a professor and creative inventor than a writer, and that shows in these books. “The Hobbit” was by far and away the best written of all his works, and while the story from “The Lord of the Rings” is excellent and ambitious, the writing itself leaves a lot to be desired. There are the wandering plots, the many pages of details that are completely superfluous, and the often occurrence of “dues ex machine” to keep the plot moving. The story may be good, but for a series often considered one of the best of all time, the writing itself won’t measure up to that lofty praise.
Buy at Amazon: The Lord of the Rings: 50th Anniversary, One Vol. Edition
“A Passage to India,” is widely considered E.M. Forster’s best novel, and is still popular in academe. It is often hailed as an early radical work on race relations that was shocking at the time. Modern critics point out that as opposed to Hemingway, Joyce, Huxley, Sinclair Lewis, or other authors whose works are still popular outside of academic study, Forster’s characters sound like wooden caricatures. The writing is dated and slow, the “social commentary” questionable, and the Indian natives in this novel don’t seem that much different than the Brits, dulling it of the impact that the writers of the Harlem Renaissance had. These critics all have very valid points.
Buy at Amazon: A Passage to India (Penguin Classics)
This is a two for one deal. Don Delillo is absolutely adored by many English professors. His works are equally despised by many grad students and other English professors. These works seem to find the far majority of their fans among professors, while the common readers aren’t biting. Add the fact that just as many professors seem indifferent to these works, and Delillo can be considered badly overrated.
Buy at Amazon: White Noise (Penguin Great Books of the 20th Century)
Ayn Rand might be the most divisive author not named L. Ron Hubbard. There’s also the chance she is just as divisive. While often pointed out as one of Rand’s “epic” works, “Atlas Shrugged” is a slow paced, thinly veiled, political and moral treatise whose hype is so far beyond the quality of the story that there was no way this book could avoid this list – even if it was generally considered a quality read by the majority of readers. [JFrater: you can't say we don't allow different opinions to have a voice on this site: this is one of my favorite books!]
Buy at Amazon: Atlas Shrugged (Centennial Ed. HC)
“A Brief History of Time” by Stephen Hawking was nicknamed “The unread best seller,” by many critics who noted it was a best seller, but very few people actually read past the first few chapters. “100 Years” is the fictional equivalent. This is considered a genius work that is incredibly complex and ushered in magical realism as a genre, but when you need cliff notes as extensive as the book itself to kind of understand the plot, and this book is kept alive mostly by being taught in colleges, you have a problem. For a book that is almost a lock to be on any “100 best books ever” list, it is amazingly unreadable if you need to actually understand what’s going on.
Buy at Amazon: One Hundred Years of Solitude (P.S.)
This is a book loved by the masses, and isn’t thought of well at all by literature majors or professors. A lot of basic facts are wrong, the writing is poor and amateurish, the narrator mixes with the main character’s point of view, and there’s a lot of thinly veiled social opinions pushed forward as facts. Why is this novel not the most overrated of all time? Because a lot of readers already recognize this for what it is: a story with enough controversial elements and a good marketing gig to hit the best seller list, but a work that was not very well written at all, and a story with a ton of holes in it.
Buy at Amazon: The Da Vinci Code
The story behind this novel is fascinating: the author commits suicide after failing to find a publisher and ten years later the novel is published and wins the Pulitzer Prize. This is a story that is a somewhat modern and Americanized “Don Quixote.” The writing is fairly good, but this is a “funny” story that does enough to get an occasional smirk, but also throws out thirty jokes that just don’t do it. Following that, this book breaks one of the cardinal rules of literature: if you’re following one character as the ‘hero,’ he has to be someone the reader likes, or can at least sympathize with. This book is an acceptable read, but its reputation now grossly exceeds its actual quality.
Buy at Amazon: A Confederacy of Dunces
This book went out of print for nearly three decades. Yeah, Fitzgerald was that important. Then almost thirty years after the rest of the world moved on, two professors wrote a ton of academic papers about Fitzgerald’s “brilliance” in the 1960’s and this book was put back into print to be taught in every high school in the nation. You can almost hear the recurring groans of every student who has ever wondered how this lame rehashed soap opera was ever brought out of printing banishment.
Buy at Amazon: The Great Gatsby
This book is a classic because… well… there doesn’t seem to be much explanation for that. This was a highly ambitious book, and the Brontes did make a name for women authors, but just because a book was ground breaking at the time doesn’t mean it should remain a classic. Some books are horribly dated, badly structured, and not even all ground breaking books are well written. Many argue that “Wuthering Heights” is guilty of all three literary sins, and this novel’s extremely high place in the literary canon makes it number two on the overrated list.
Buy at Amazon: Wuthering Heights (Penguin Popular Classics)
Say what you will, but any book where pretty much nothing happens for 400 pages before the naïve girl suddenly matures and marries the much older man named “Mr. Knightly” (and lives happily ever after) should not be considered the greatest book ever. Through colleges and grad schools, many students have heard this book repeatedly called the perfect novel, the perfect plot, and the best novel ever written. It may have been ground breaking at the time, but it is now the equivalent of chick lit with a very basic plot that is heavily dated. It might be light summer reading for teenage girls, but it is not the best novel ever written by a long shot, making this the most overrated novel of all time.
Buy at Amazon: Emma (Barnes & Noble Classics)
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February 10th, 2009 at 3:03 am
Completely agree on Lord of rings trilogy, and definately the Da Vinci Code. it was alright read to begin with but after all the hype i can’t stand it anymore
February 10th, 2009 at 3:04 am
OVER RATED–YES–But some enjoyable reads just the same.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:05 am
I love it!
February 10th, 2009 at 3:06 am
Cool list, couple of my fav reads are high up on the list! Oh-Oh! Ha Ha! Oh well, I like them.
Just to add my own, I’m a massive fan and all that but some of Stephen Kings’ books are overratted. He can write about pretty much anything, I’ll give him that but pages and pages of nothing-ness drive me insane. I’d take Wuthering Heights over some of SK’s Tosh anyday!
February 10th, 2009 at 3:06 am
good list, i can tell it will cause a stir among the comments…
why though is Atlas shrugged here, i recall it being praised in several lists??? Have you changed your mind or do you feel like being hypocritical all of the sudden?
Besides that, you were definitely right with #1. Never have i wasted so much of my time on a book…
February 10th, 2009 at 3:09 am
Hard to argue with many of these, and while it pains me to say it I have to agree with LOTR being here (although The Silmarillion is even harder to follow but can’t blame JRR since he was dead when it was published). And as bad as DiVinci code is, it’s a literary masterpiece compared to some of Brown’s other works (Deception Point was totally unreadable… a 5th grader could have done better).
February 10th, 2009 at 3:10 am
JUNQUEMAN: I agree – two books I love are on the list: Atlas Shrugged and The Great Gatsby. Nevertheless I do appreciate some of the sentiments here and I think it was well enough thought out to be worth posting
Donna: I totally agree on King – some of his early stuff is fantastic – some of his later stuff is tripe.
wainboy: I love Atlas Shrugged. I wrote the majority of the lists which praise it. I did not write this list. Therefore I can’t be a hypocrite – just fair minded enough to post alternative opinions to my own
February 10th, 2009 at 3:10 am
Another amazing list! The Da Vince Code really is an overrated book. Im just new here and I’m still reading all the list here one-bye-one, so I’m off to a reading spree! Ja!^_^v
February 10th, 2009 at 3:11 am
Definitely agree in #10 with The Hobbit being Tolkien’s better work. I never managed to finish ‘Return of the King’ when I read through LOTR, it was too durgy, but The Hobbit I can read over and over.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:12 am
@jfrater
Can you make a list of underrated but great books, or do you have it already?
February 10th, 2009 at 3:13 am
Ooooh, the second I saw that picture up there for Atlas Shrugged, I knew Jamie was going to have a little bit to say…
I definitely agree about Lord of the Rings, even though I loved the trilogy, fuck knows what the hell he was going on about sometimes, and even though the movies have stupendous, amazing battle scenes, his tend to last a page or two before delving into the political side of the aftermath.
And THANK YOU for The Da Vinci Code, it’s a brilliant idea, but it’s not a well-written book… Power to him for making squillions off it, but it’s slightly undeserved, and I think he knows it too…
February 10th, 2009 at 3:23 am
Harry Potter!
February 10th, 2009 at 3:23 am
I can’t believe that “One Hundred Years of Solitude” is considered overrated by you… I am disappointed! I read it when most of my friends read it – when we were 16 and we loved it, just like most people in Europe (still) do… Maybe Americans need to keep notes to read it but it is probably just a language barrier since Americans are not used to Spanish names and surnames (since the family tree (the Buendias) is so large). As far as the plot goes, it is probably a cultural barrier, most Americans can’t grasp the idea of magical realism much less the concept of true family values and even lees the concept of love (of any kind) (I lived in the states for 9 years, I think I have the right to say this)…
You should stick to writtiing crime lists
February 10th, 2009 at 3:29 am
“Wuthering Heights” – the song was MUCH MUCH better!!!
February 10th, 2009 at 3:34 am
The hundred years of solitude is only hard to grasp if you read it in spurts or casually. And if its a casual page turner you’re after you probably shouldn’t be reading Gabriel Garcia Marquez.
But i guess the family tree with multiple Buendias and Aurelios can be intimidating. But then that’s magic realism for ya !
Enjoyable list.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:36 am
Very interesting read.
I humbly suggest that this website produce less “overrated” lists. I realize that the whole concept of list making is based on opinion, but it is much easier to swallow the comparisons of the good and the bad, as opposed to an individual criticizing the successful.
But seriously… Where was Harry Potter?
February 10th, 2009 at 3:41 am
Oh Mr. Dayton, how you sadden me.
I absolutely love Wuthering Heights. I couldn’t stop reading it when I got it. Jane Austen books are rather slow, but I still love them.
“just because a book was ground breaking at the time doesn’t mean it should remain a classic.” Makes me think of the Beatles debate.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:44 am
The most overrated book I ever attempted to read was “Midnight In the Garden of Good and Evil.” I tried every way in the world and just could not stay awake past the first three chapters. I finally gave up
February 10th, 2009 at 3:45 am
The Catcher in the Rye. I remember reading in a magazine that it changed peoples lives. Lmao!
February 10th, 2009 at 3:46 am
I agree with you about Emma. While I love the rest of Jane Austen’s books (although I am somewhat indifferent to Mansfield Park), I think Emma is by far her worst book and one which is entirely overrated. I can happily re-read Pride and Prejudice, Northanger Abbey, Persuasion, Sense and Sensibility and even Mansfield Park (if I’m bored), I have not been able to re-read Emma with any enjoyment and now don’t even bother to pick it up. Whilst Emma is Jane Austen’s most overrated novel, I would say that Northanger Abbey is her most underrated.
I should also admit that I have never been able to make it all of the way through Wuthering Heights and have always been puzzled as to why its considered a classic.
While I agree that Twilight is overrated, perhaps it is too soon to include it on this list, as in 5 years it might be completely forgotten whereas novels like Emma and Wuthering Heights have managed to maintain their ‘classic’ status for decades.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:48 am
While I may not agree with a few on here this is quite a well-written list…
But where is Twilight?
Worst book ever written by a mormon who can’t write to save her life…?
Good list but definately should have included Twilight.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:49 am
I would add as an honorable mention anything written by James Fenimore Cooper. The stories were great, but he sucked the enjoyment out of them with his endless and tedious descriptions of the mundane.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:50 am
i think the list is ok, but could u please make a list on top 10 motivational books.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:50 am
If we’re on the subject of bad books (and not going off into another Twilight [twatlight] rant ;])
The Night Listener by Armistaud Maupin was a rather bad
It had all the makings of being an amazing story but the ending was so stupid
I’ve never been more disappointed in a book.
Except with Twilight of course
(Sorry, couldn’t help it.)
February 10th, 2009 at 3:52 am
One last note:
While I may not like The Da Vinci Code much, I disagree with the statement that it is poorly written.
That scene in the elevator at the beginning of the book I think is pretty clever…
February 10th, 2009 at 3:53 am
Lord of the Rings is probably my favorite read of all time but I can’t quibble with your assessment of Tolkien’s prose skills.
I take GREAT exception to the inclusion of “A Confederacy of Dunces”. I still laugh out loud each time I read it. As far as having a “likable” main character, are you unfamiliar with the concept of an anti-hero? The rest of the list is pretty right on the money, though!
May I also add my vote to include “Harry Potter”?
February 10th, 2009 at 3:54 am
to state as fact that these novels are overrated is a mistake. literature is a completely subjective topic. if one of these is a person’s favorite, then it absolutely isn’t overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:56 am
what about shakespeare? i thought he would be on the list for sure. we groaned and grunted our way through eng. lit. classes. totally agree about da vinci code though. very over rated but marketed well cos brown knew how to be controversial. personally i think paulo coelho and edward de bono are also overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:56 am
The Teachings of Don Juan by Carlos Castaneda. What an epic snooze.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:57 am
Twilight is NOT overrated :O i shiver at the thought you could imply that, it’s one of the most compelling love stories i’ve ever read. But only if you are talking about Twilight itself and not the rest in the series as the rest were kind of dragging. I loved the Da Vinci Code too! But agree it lacked a strong plot. And I do not think Harry Potter was overrated either. Brilliant books gosh!
February 10th, 2009 at 3:58 am
Interesting list, sure to spawn lots of heated debate. I disagree with your criticism of Confederacy of Dunces. Ignatius is a terrific anti-hero. He is just as fun to follow as any righteous nutter and his foibles make him more sympathetic. How can you not love a man who masturbates furiously when thinking of his beloved deceased pet dog?
But I WOULD say that. This book is top ten material for me.
Check out who I would cast in my dream film adaptation here: http://ilovethingsthataregreat.com/2009/01/06/my-cast-of-dunces/
February 10th, 2009 at 4:02 am
sharlu:
Twilight is a blatant rip off of several other vampire love stories.
Even Stephen King said that it is very poorly written:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29001524/from/RSS/
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ proof…
To be honest the whole of Twilight sounds like a bad fanfiction with the names changed.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:04 am
I agree that sometimes the Lord of the RIngs trilogy can be a hard read, but to put it on the most overrated list of all time seems a bit harsh to me.
And like spence425 said, something being overrated is completely in the eye of the beholder, what you think may be overrrated may be the greatest book ever written in my eyes.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:06 am
Mouse (no.13) I think the reasons “Twilight” is not on this list is 1) Most people realize just how awful they are, and 2) in a few months, nobody will even remember what “Twilight” is, these are all classics.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:09 am
One hundred years cannot be considered overrated by any stretch of imagination and i dont think it was taxing to read either.Of course once i start to defend it,people will call me biased but i consider one of the best books to read..along with fountainhead!!!
February 10th, 2009 at 4:10 am
i have to agree with you on the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and I’m glad that I’m not the only one who believes so (Until now, I felt a sort of shame that I didn’t like them, almost like I wasn’t quite worthy to be part of that club)
The movies are excellent, so naturally, I thought the books had to be simply epic, reading them, I found that although the story WAS there, the writing made it extremely dull. I managed to muscle my way through “The Fellowship of the Ring” but gave up halfway through “The Two Towers”
February 10th, 2009 at 4:11 am
Must say that 100 years of solitude is an exceptional read. Difficult but worth it, well worth it.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:21 am
What about the the most overrated book ever, the BIBLE.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:28 am
Great List. Totally agree with LOTR and Atlas Shrugged. It took me 3 tries and 2 years to make it 3/4 of the way through Atlas Shrugged. I gave up and read the spark notes, and I’m glad I did. I never finished one hundred years of solitude and don’t plan on it. But Confederacy of Dunces was awesome!
February 10th, 2009 at 4:28 am
Well we all know Twilight is rubbish.
I’m yet to read any of these, and now I’m sure I won’t touch any of them..
February 10th, 2009 at 4:29 am
I agree with stevek. Its by far the most overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:31 am
I know most people wont agree with me, but I think A MILLION LITTLE PIECES by James Frey is overrated. I couldnt wait to get my hands on it and after reading it I was so disgusted. MY FRIEND LEONARD was better, but I think James Frey should try fiction next time round.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:32 am
hmmm, identity feeling threatened:
Lord of the Rings is great (allowing for some skim reading of course)
Atlas Shrugged (always take Ayn Rand with a pinch-a-salt and much enjoyment can be had! is The Fountain Head better perhaps?)
Confederacy of Dunces (brilliantly funny and original and not rated enough in my opinion)
Great Gatsby (how could this be on the list?! its a beautiful book of the damned with some of the best characterisation ever)
February 10th, 2009 at 4:32 am
So glad to see The Da Vinci Code on here! And like at least one other here, feel somewhat vindicated in my dislike of Tolkien’s writing style. Kinda surprised that Dickens is missing though.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:33 am
Da Vinci Code was awful, terrible writing. And the Twilight comments? it will never be a classic, they are dumbing down a generation, and the writing appallingly bad. But I think Stephen King is underrated, his new stuff isn’t great, but hes a great writer. Twilight being a good love story? are you kidding, more like a twisted abusive ‘love’ story, so so so bad
February 10th, 2009 at 4:37 am
Catch 22… definitely overrated
February 10th, 2009 at 4:38 am
As far as Dan Brown’s work goes, Angels and Demons was MUCH better than the DaVinci Code.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:43 am
I COMPLETELY agree with #3 on the list, it was the 2nd worst book i can remember reading(the worst being the scarlet letter of course, couldnt stand it, too boring for me, but thats me) anyway, i found The Great Gatsby to be very uninteresting and, while it isnt a horrible book, it is way overrated, and cant compare to some of my favorite books (breakfast of champions, 1984, and others)
February 10th, 2009 at 4:44 am
The Harry Potter series should definitely be on the list for the same reason the lord of the rings series is on there.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:44 am
another bad list just someone saying dat dey dont like these books
stop doin list of ur own opinon
February 10th, 2009 at 4:44 am
I have to agree with this list. Even though I have read and liked the majority of the books, they are all very overated!:(
February 10th, 2009 at 4:49 am
I complained viciously all through “The DaVinci Code” about the horrible writing. Totally agree. Good choice of material for him, though.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:55 am
Where’s the tora, the bible and the koran?
February 10th, 2009 at 4:56 am
ayn rand being compared to dipshit hubbard *extraordinarily vulgar comment deleted*.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:59 am
I have to agree with most of these. The Lord of the rings was a good read, but nowhere near as good as people make out. And I’d also have to agree with all the others that said Harry Potter. The books are very amateurish and weakly written and the movies, well, they’re just atrocious.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:06 am
I read the Lord of the Rings when I was about 13 or 14, and loved it. I thought it was basically god in book form. I still think it’s great, but as my knowledge and writing skill has matured, I now see that although it is written beautifully, plotwise there are some holes, as well as the issue of the good/evil dichotomy. However, you can’t tell me that Eomer’s charge against the Southron king wasn’t awesome…
“…and the drawing of the scimitars of the Southrons was like the glitter of stars…”
That, my friends, is my childhood inspiration to write.
-Mendacity
February 10th, 2009 at 5:08 am
i just had to read Wuthering Heights in school im glad to know other people hate it as much as me
February 10th, 2009 at 5:11 am
Yes! Finally someone agress! LOTR was unreadable for me because of all the pointless detail. It was a chore to read.
And take THAT, Austen. Fuck you and all your film adaptations starring Keira Knightley.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:14 am
I agree with all of those books on the list, but I am saddened by the lack of Ernest Hemingway up there, specifically the old man and the sea. It’s easily the worst book I have ever read, despite its deep “symbolism.”
February 10th, 2009 at 5:15 am
Certainly true about The Da Vinci Code in my opinion. Its boring is the Paris Hilton of literature.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:15 am
Shouldn’t the title be:
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“Top 10 Most Overrated Novels of the Anglosphere”
February 10th, 2009 at 5:16 am
where’s twilight?
February 10th, 2009 at 5:18 am
@ #42 Rina
Most of what was written in “A Million Little Pieces” was fiction.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:22 am
Twilight should be the bonus entry. It’s the biggest piece of Mormon propaganda ever.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:22 am
Ugh,i had to read wuthering heights, i HATE that book!
February 10th, 2009 at 5:23 am
‘…but any book where pretty much nothing happens for 400 pages before the naïve girl suddenly matures and marries the much older man named “Mr. Knightly”…’
haha, that loosely sounds like Memoirs of a Geisha except she didn’t get married and it was way more than 400 pages. But I loved that book. I agree with the number 1 and 2 but that’s personal preference. Romantic novels generally don’t do it for me.
Feel the same way about Da Vinci Code…and Gatsby…and Atlas… haha, come to think of it, a number of these books I tried but couldn’t get into.
With Harry Potter and Twilight…they are read by adults but would they be considered adult books or more juvenile? They are a bit tweeny so they aren’t expected to be literary genius but I still agree that they are grossly overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:25 am
I knew straight away The DaVinci Code would on here. It was written for the controversy and has such a made-for-Hollywood ending.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:26 am
The Scarlet Letter is definitely overrated. When forced to read it in high school, I joked that I could rewrite it in about 40 pages. (I think I greatly overestimated, too!)
February 10th, 2009 at 5:28 am
what the hell, i am actually shocked, lotr is not over-rated at all!
February 10th, 2009 at 5:32 am
Da vinci Code, I was expecting to be first on this list actually, that wasn’t readable at all. It was…. comparable to Fox News really.
The Great Gatsby, I didn’t finish it. Thank you summaries online (which, though were hella boring aswell, they were shorter)
Damn school texts.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:32 am
Mmm… I adore White Noise but I hated A Confederacy of Dunces, so I guess we are even
Lord of the Rings I forced myself to read but I was painfully bored by it.
I know you mentioned this in your description, but placing The DaVinci Code so high on the list doesn’t really seem fair. It is highly entertaining and a compelling read – even if it is pretty much totally silly and not exactly brilliant writing. It was massively overrated for awhile, but it has suffered its backlash in a big way already. I don’t think it belongs on this list anymore, though it certainly would have a few years ago.
I would recommend you try some of F. Scott Fitzgerald’s short stories. Although I liked The Great Gatsby, I liked his short story collection much more.
I also wouldn’t call Emma overrated for the simple reason that I don’t think it is rated as highly as you think it is… I was never once asked to read Emma in (and I was an English major who then did an MA in English and took all the English classes I could in high school). But I guess that is up to your personal experience. I read Emma on my own, but I liked Persuasion much better – a much more finely crafted and subtle story.
Everything else I am either indifferent to or haven’t read.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:33 am
Being an English Literature student I have had to study quite a lot of these and must say I agree with the top two most heartily. Although personally, I would stretch it to include a large number of serialized works that were brought out around that Victorian era. A lot of these books, including Dickens, were brought out weekly or monthly and were only really intended as a sort of diversion for the upper classes, and they read like that. Somehow through, schools and Universities they have come to be ‘classics’.
Saying that, however, I thought “Great Gatsby” was brilliant and it is one of my favourite novels, despite having to study it at University.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:36 am
Another awful book considered as good, is The Shipping News, by Anne Proulx. It writing style is both ugly and difficult to understand, and the story is terrible.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:43 am
There’s a few of these that I’ve read and I agree with The Lord of the Rings. It was so difficult to read! Another one I think is overrated is Anna Karenina. I could barely get through the first few pages.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:45 am
Nice list…but wheres Twilight
February 10th, 2009 at 5:57 am
OK….but where’s Catch 22?
February 10th, 2009 at 5:58 am
I love The Lord of the Rings, but I absolutely hated reading it
February 10th, 2009 at 5:58 am
The title of this list is “novels”. Religious books, such as have been mentioned, are not “novels” (whatever they may, in fact, be), so stop mentioning them, please.
I consider myself to be a reasonably literate person, and I’ve read exactly one of these – and had to scroll to #1 before I reached it. I’ve attempted some others.
When I got to #7 I thought: did jfrater write this list or not? Not.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:58 am
A hearty “Amen!” for The Great Gatsby. Did that book have any sort of plot at all? We had to read it in high school, and it was boring and pointless from start to finish. The comparison with a soap opera is a good one.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:06 am
I thought the great gatsby was one of the best books I read in high school.
How about “The Awakening” that was absolutely awful.
I couldn’t actually get through reading Lord of The Rings, good choice there.
Da Vinci Code was a good read, but def. overrated. Angels and Demons was a lot better.
and yeah, twilight is terrible.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Very interesting list. I haven’t read all of these largely because I got bored very quickly and didn’t bother with them again. I have a terribly short attention span anyway but I read for enjoyment and if there’s no enjoyment, there’s no point as far as I can tell.
A book I did finish although it took quite a few weeks of enforced bouts of concentration was Anna Karenina. Interesting in terms of being a tale of a completely different culture and society but aside from that short bursts of activity interspersed with long, loooooong passages of boring political stuff, religious sermonizing and flicking back through 400 pages to find out how one person is related to another. Even despite the fact I hated Anna Karenina herself (rod for thine own back m’dear?) I could have enjoyed it were it not for the dozens of superfluous bits because when it was good it was very, very good. As it was, it felt like an extremely tedious chore lifted by all too infrequent breaks. Sorry Leo.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:08 am
I think A Confederacy of Dunces should be #1 on the list. This book won the pulitzer and is praised but it’s a horrible read…I completely disagree with The Great Gatsby. It is superbly written and the story is captivating…The Lord of the Rings is weird because although it IS superfluous, the plot completely sucks you in. I do agree, however, that The Hobbit was his best work.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:09 am
#83 – LOL I just got done finishing my comment then saw yours, glad I’m not the only one who thought that!
February 10th, 2009 at 6:09 am
I think the Alchemist was boring as hell. Paulo Coelho has to be one of the most pseudo intellectual writers ever.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:10 am
i like emma… but i prefer pride and prejudice…
February 10th, 2009 at 6:10 am
I agree with most books in the list except for Wuthering Heights. It’s not overrated, IMO.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:13 am
WHERE. Is Catcher in the Rye? That book made me hate myself when we had to study it in school.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:14 am
I’ve got to admit, when I first saw the title of this list I braced myself to balk at some of the suggestions… but I think this list is bang on. There is nothing here I disagree with (Lord of the Rings being an especially shitty classic). Bravo!
February 10th, 2009 at 6:15 am
4 of the 10 books on this list were required reading at some point for me during high school. The only one that is really memorable to me is probably the Great Gatsby…and one of the reasons for that is because of the unforgettable cover art. Another reason is because after we read The Great Gatsby we watched the the Redford/Farrow movie version during class time. Woo hoo for Califoria pubic education!
February 10th, 2009 at 6:17 am
Although I haven’t read many of the books on here, I do disagree with The Confederacy of Dunces. There was something about it that I really enjoyed and couldn’t put it down.
I also rather enjoyed The Da Vinci could, albeit I read it when I was in middle school, so any adventure story was fun to read.
After looking through the comments, I noticed a lot of people mentioned Twilight. From what I’ve heard, it isn’t very well written. But being well written is not what makes a book popular, and vice versa. In a few years, Twilight will likely be forgotten by many readers, and if it is remembered, it will only be remembered as a fad.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:19 am
I was just speaking with a high school student who was having to read A Tale of Two Cities. She said it was dreadfully boring. I asked her if she knew why she had to read it. She said because they were learning about satire and this author was supposed to be very good at writing satire. I asked if she had been forced to read The Great Gatsby. She said not yet, but her friend really hated the book. I told her I had been forced to read it. I hated it and didn’t even finish it. My husband, however, loved the book. I couldn’t even stand to sit through the whole movie after we were forced to read the book.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:20 am
#97 Dissy – Catcher In The Rye? Are you on crack?
February 10th, 2009 at 6:23 am
I’ll geek up and defend LOTR. First, I admit I couldn’t read through the Two Towers the first time… but I was in middle school, so… and the later I discovered that skimming is perfectly okay with so much detail, because by the 10th time you re-”skim” it, you’ve read the whole thing… and even the songs become fascinating.
To me, Tolkien’s best trait is his dialogue… which was sadly butchered in the lauded movie version (along with the entire plot). However, I don’t see how you can credit him with inventing a world, in complete detail, with a rich history, geography, and a hierarchy of species, with multiple, functional languages, and then call his treatis over rated.
On another note, whoever said Catcher was overrated is nuts.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:25 am
I always liked the great Gatsby. . .
February 10th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Well, this list disappointed me in many ways. What’s with the poor argumentation? “Wuthering Heights”, for instance. Your claim that it is “badly structured” will certainly be debated by many, and may I ask what sources supports it, or did you just pick it out of thin air?
As for “The Great Gatsby”, I agree that it is overrated and a tedious reading experience at times, but calling it a soap opera (and “Emma” a piece of chick lit) is just childish, and doesn’t hold up to your usual level of reasoning.
What is “The daVinci Code” doing on this list, by the way? I didn’t think it was particularly well thought of in the first place?
February 10th, 2009 at 6:27 am
@Carrie lynn & Dissy (and probably a few others I overlooked),
I can’t agree more regarding Catcher in the Rye. Maybe I was too old when I read it (for whatever reason, it was never assigned to us in high school), but at no point while reading it did I ever feel like running away from home.
And I liked the Great Gatsby, however, I thought the description of Gatsby’s death at the end was horrible.
The Scarlet Letter? I’m pretty sure that book was an experiment to make a rather simple story almost impossible to read.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:27 am
I think Emma is an excellent book and not overrated at all but I’m really biased towards Jane Austen…
I do think that To Kill a Mockingbird is overrated though. The characters are so poor.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:27 am
The Catcher in the Rye, even if it’s not your particular style, is certainly not overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Great list, most of all because no ones bashing books here, they’re just saying how some might not be as good as they are perceived.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:34 am
I loved the Great Gatsby when I was a junior in high school. I was one of the only students that enjoyed reading outside of class. But that was 14 years ago and I’ve not re-read it either, so I guess that says something. Anywho…Great List! I love the book lists.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:36 am
The Road by Cormac McCarthy deserves to be an addition to this list also. Another one that bafflingly won the Pulitzer.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:36 am
100 years of solitude was excellent…..or maybe i was blinded by the fact that it was written by a fellow Colombian, either way I liked it!
February 10th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Completely agree with Dissy. Catcher in the Rye is so over analysed and people think its much deeper than it really is. Hated reading it with a passion.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:43 am
I agree with the few of these I have read.
I may be in the silent minority here, but my favorite Ayn Rand book was Anthem. It was one of the few books I was forced to read in high school that I completely enjoyed and have read again.
The Hobbit was definitely the only truly readable book from that series.
The Great Gatsby was alright. I didn’t love it or hate it.
As far as some of the comments, I have to agree that Stephen King was amazing in his early years but I’ve had a hard time getting into some of his more recent stuff. Lisey’s Story is one of the few books I’ve ever put down without finishing. I just couldn’t take anymore.
I don’t agree with those who’ve suggested Harry Potter. I resisted reading them for a while but when a copy of the first book ended up in my lap at a time when I had nothing else to read, I got hooked. Yes, it was intended for a youth audience but it totally captivated me.
I will continue to resist reading Twilight. Sappy vampire stories just aren’t my thing.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:44 am
I’d add Infinite Jest – David Foster Wallace to overrated. Hard to read with about 100 pages of endnotes. For most underrated A Void/Avoid – Georges Perec was a fascinating story about a missing person named “Anton Vowl”. What makes it amazing is that the entire book was written without using the letter “E” which is the most commonly used letter.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:47 am
“Emma” and “A passage to India” both threatened to bore me to death. Another work that left me really disappointed was “Heart of Darkness” by Joseph Conrad. The foreword told me it was a life-changig experience, but despite a few moments of pure brilliance, I often found myself forgetting what I had just read, which is never a good sign, and obsessively counting the pages left. Such is the punishment for high expectations
I have to disagree on the Lord of the Rings, however. Tolkien is capable of not only creating a complete mythical universe of his own, but also letting the atmosphere of this universe seep into his writing. It’s quite literally an otherworldly reading experience if you have the patience and is willing to submit to the text on its own terms instead of getting hung up on useless comparisons. Modern literary conventions will never be a reliable measuring stick when it comes to Tolkien.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Kudos on The Da Vinci Code – yuck!
I cannot (and will not) respect a list that puts Wuthering Height’s at #2!! For shame! That book will forever be my all time favourite.
I can think of a hundred books offhand that I would include on this list. Top 100 Most Overrated Novels perhaps?
I have actually tried to get through both 100 Years of Solitude and The Lord of the Rings trilogies and put them down after the first few chapters…and I’m an English Major. I guess that really does say something.
But seriously – Wuthering Heights?!?! Just no.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:48 am
I would like to add “Lord of the Flies” as an overrated novel. I hate that book with a passion, my only favourite part being the “Kill the pig!” chant.
The movie was even worse.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:49 am
I have not read a one of these (thankfully on some of them). I am mildly interested in LotR, but mainly because of the films. The DaVinci Code and anything by Jane Austin *never* interested me.
Seriously, nice list – I’ll continue to avoid what I already have been.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:51 am
fahrenheit 451 was an extremely big let down after everything i heard about it.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:54 am
This list: epic fail.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:55 am
As an after thought… While Charles Dickens is probably an excellent author, had anyone else tried reading Bleak House? I enjoyed the movie by Masterpiece Theatre very much, but when I tried to read the book, I barely got through the first PARAGRAPH before going crosseyed.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:56 am
The Road should have at least been number ten. That was the biggest letdown ever.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:56 am
I did enjoy some of these and enjoy them, but I definitely see how they are overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:57 am
I totally agree with the A Confederacy of Dunces being on here. In fact, it popped in my head as soon as I saw the title of this list.
I didn’t HATE the book but it came highly recommended by many people, a friend actually bought me a copy and mailed it to me to read and I just didn’t get into it. I can usually get into any book but there really wasn’t anything about the characters that I liked… at all.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:00 am
I didn’t like the Great Gatsby until I listened to it on tape. Hearing someone read it really helped me appreciate it more. I would have put Confederacy of Dunces at #1, just because the others above it are actually good books. CoD was unreadable to me (as was White Noise).
February 10th, 2009 at 7:12 am
I may be blaspheming, but the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy “trilogy” is overrated. The first book is fun and great (just the whole scene of the whale and bowl of petunias popping into existence only to imemdiately succumb to gravity is well worth the ride) but about midway through the second book (Restaurant at the End of the Universe) Hitchhikers starts to become incomprehensible, and the series never improves. (And I’ve tried twice to make it through.)
Another very popular but overrated book: Stephen King’s The Stand. The setup and first half are great: A man-made plague wipes out most humanity save for those who prove to be immune. Survivors gather in two places, one for the “good” and one for the “bad”. But the payoff — the second half — is maddingly disappointing. The “Walking Dude” starts out menacing but decends into a petty tyrant, and not a very scary/effective one. The Stand starts with a bang but ends with a whimper.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Some may consider The Road to be ovverated, but it was the most depressing and hopeless novel I’ve ever read. You keep looking for some glimmer of hope, but there is none.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:16 am
wow, i read all 123 comments so that i would know who to agree with for my notable ommission. i can’t believe i am the first person to suggest the grapes of wrath by john steinbeck. it won the pulitzer and the nobel prize for literature and had an entire chapter about a turtle crossing the road for crying out loud!!
i even enjoyed all 47,000 pages of moby dick more than this brain sucker.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:18 am
I had to study Gatsby too
Didn’t find it that bad though tbh!
February 10th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Ulysses by James Joyce. Has anyone actually read past the first chapter? How many of you, like me, were handed a reading list for a university English course, borrowed the book from the library, read the first few pages, thought WTF! and never picked it up again?
February 10th, 2009 at 7:21 am
No. 19: Bullseye. Catcher in the Rye should certainly be on here. What a terrible book.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Add me to the list of people who agree with LOTR’s position on this list. Tolkien was a great linguist and had a wonderful imagination, but lacked in the writing department.
On the other hand, I think The Great Gatsby does a decent job reflecting the frivolity and excess of the 20s (write what you know, Fitzgerald), even if those things does make it seem like a “rehashed soap opera.”
I’d say Ulysses is overrated. Yes, it does a lot of new and interesting things, and I think it’s a very important work, but any work where the annotations are longer than the text itself makes me cringe. Far too self-referential.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:27 am
I really liked Atlas Shrugged, The Great Gatsby, and Wuthering Heights. Though I’ll admit that John Galt’s radio speech in Atlas Shrugged is just unreadable.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Very Interesting List.
I agree about the “LOTR” books. I’ve actually enjoyed “The Great Gatsby”. I have not read these others, though I have read other works by Ayn Rand which were dull.
I also agree with other comments that “Twilight” is way overrated, because I tried to read that series and I could not even get passed the first thirty pages before designating it as ‘poorly written’. And it’s very uncommon for me not to finish a book once I’ve started it. Anyway, it’s too soon to call “Twilight” a ‘classic’.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Great list.
“American Psycho” is another very overrated book.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:29 am
There is nothing wrong with using “deus ex machina” as a literary device. Many playwrights used it to help wrap up the plot for stage productions. But I may be a bit biased, I’ve been reading LOTR and the Hobbit for a decade now.
PS. I love Gatsby, I read it for fun! Again, another bias, I had a great professor teach it.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Aha – #128 posted while I was typing. I had to read it as a grad student and didn’t hate it, but I do hate that it’s usually first or second on top book lists.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:34 am
88 astraya
A novel is fiction, true.
Then in my mind it stands to reason that the bible should be #1, it is a collection of stories that were being passed through the generations buy storytellers, who had to make their stories interesting or they wouldn’t get a feed or a bed for the night.
Some people, several hundred years after the events, decides that we’ll put them into a book, and tell everyone that this is the word of god. And if you don’t believe me, we will kill you.
As jfrater is always telling everyone, the lists are one persons view. In my view the bible is fiction.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:34 am
This might seem minor, but y’know, errors add up…. Book titles should be italicized or underlined, not put in quotation marks.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Having just finished Atlas Shrugged I can say that I did enjoy it, although it did take me a couple of months to finish. I also enjoyed the LOTR trilogy, but I read those when I was a kid and much more fascinated by things like that. I have read The Da Vinci Code, and while I found it to be a good read, I do agree it is somewhat overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Just after I finished reading it, I remember coming across a one sentence synopsis of the Lord of the Rings: “Short, hairy man throws ring in a volcano.” And I thought, “Yup. That’s pretty much it.” Maybe I was too old to read it, having graduated high school and all…
February 10th, 2009 at 7:35 am
I dissagree with the comment on “Hitchhiker guide” also I was gonna add 2 books but i don’t think they qualify because they aren’t fiction but will add them anyway because they both get a lot of hype, they are “iron John” and “Zen and the art of motorcycle repair”
February 10th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Da Vinci Code definitely – and all the people that got so upset cos it was claiming all these controversial conspiracy theories as fact! It was a novel for goodness sake.
But it better than other books by Dan Brown – he has written some of the worst dialogue I have ever read.
I agree with comment 124 – Hitchhikers is defo overrated – I loved it the first time I read it, but then when I read about 5 years ago I just got bored. I get very confusing and a tad pretentious. I love Douglas Adams’ ideas, but he milked it for far too long.
LOLR is still my favourite book!
comment 38 – that is the Absolute Truth!
February 10th, 2009 at 7:36 am
have to say, i pretty much agree with this list (for as many of the books on it that i’ve read). there are a number of “classics” brought up in high school and college that are anything but moving, compelling literature. my least favorite “classic” ever: “the oxbow incident” ugh.. talk about a mind numbing waste of time.
and i’m sorry, but i have to say:
@#12 dimitar- seriously, leave your anti-american, hurt feelings banter somewhere else. i hate reading the lists and intelligent commentary only to find (rather consistently) some piece of “i hate america” buried within. write a “top 10 reasons america sucks” list and leave your comments there. i won’t read it, and i won’t care. being european doesn’t give you the right to judge me or my country and not all of america is the same, some parts suck and i can admit that. but the whole country isn’t full of the people you assume we are. so what if somebody doesn’t like a book you do? suck it up, it’s not because you’re european and the list writer appears to be american.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:38 am
beets and ground eggs
February 10th, 2009 at 7:38 am
I love how people keep thinking Jaime writes every list…
You need to make the size of the author bigger and bolder so people will stop being ninnys.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:38 am
There should have been at least one Nicholas Sparks book on here…
February 10th, 2009 at 7:40 am
A Passage to India: I fell asleep reading the novel and also fell asleep seeing the movie. I think this is somewhat amazing.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:40 am
I cannot stand Jane Austen (even though I have only read one book..one was enough) so I was happy to see Emma in there. The Da Vinci Code is nothing but a cheap thriller. Its good if you are looking for a gripping page turner but it offers nothing and I mean NOTHING in terms description and imagery. To sum it up the book is simply a screenplay.
Wuthering Heights I found very enjoyable and felt it should not have made the list.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:43 am
Of these, I’ve only read Lord of the Rings, and the beginning of Great Gatsby (I couldn’t keep my eyes open). I must be the freak, but I though LOTR was awesome from beginning to end. It might not conform to the usual expectations of a novel, but I found it a page turner!
February 10th, 2009 at 7:45 am
As im sure others have noted i dont think it’s fair or correct to say that these are in fact overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:49 am
The Great Gatsby is THE WORST book Ive ever had the displeasure of reading/being forced to read. The definition of boring pointless garbage. I wish I had a copy nearby to burn. Lol sorry to the fans.
I keep hearing a lot of obsessive hype over Atlas but no one seems able to say why it’s good or what’s so interesting about it….?? Seems like people want to obsess over it because other people are….?
February 10th, 2009 at 7:51 am
I found the Great Gatsby to be horribly overrated. It never seemed worthy of the acclaim most people attribute to it.
I didn’t read the Da Vinci Code until I’d read the predecessor to it, Angles and Demons and found the Da Vinci Code downright boring.
I wouldn’t put the LoTR trilogy on the list, there are others which are worse.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:53 am
I agree with all but atlas shrugged. Its not “epic” because its a good read nor do people claim it to be a great read. Its “epic” because of the way the message that the novel is trying to teach is brought about.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:54 am
I have to say that I’m a little disappointed by this list that does not live up to the usual standard on this site.
All of the books on the list may be overrated, but then even an excellent book can be overrated if some hype about it sets in. Most overrated? – I don’t see how any reasons you are giving do support that claim.
It is always dangerous to admit that one was just not up to the task of reading the book (as in item 6). Just because you found it hard to read, it doesn’t have to be bad writing.
And you explicitly state that item 8 is loved only by some professors, while others and most students allegedly despise it. That seems to conflict with your claim that the book is overrated.
The question emerging here is this: The books are overrated by whom?
In the case of Tolkien you obviously refer to fantasy readers. In the case of DeLillo its those few professors. In the case of Dan Brown the rating comes just through bookselling numbers. Sonmetimes its the academia, sometimes you do not tell us at all who overrates the book.
This lack of standard is regrettable. Since every book is overrated by someone, even by some group of readers, the whole idea of writing a list of the most overrated books crashes without a common standard.
m.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:55 am
I could not agree more with The Conferacy of Dunces. When I was done reading it, I thought I might have missed something. ‘An occasional smirk’ was exactly my reaction, so I was little disappointed that it wasn’t ‘laugh out loud funny’ as I was told it would be. However, I did enjoy the book and I’m glad I got a chance to read it.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:00 am
I have not read most of those books, which tells me something. I agree with Wuthering Heights (and I have read that one) being on the list. Someone else mentioned Hemingway, and I completely agree. Hemingway was the bane of my life in high school. His writing was so dumbed down and the dialogue banal. He’s my least favorite author. Virginia Woolf comes a close second.
I’m surprised that someone names Emma has the best book ever written, according to its entry up there. I would not have chosen Emma as even the best book Jane Austen has ever written, and certainly not the best of all time.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Totally totally agree with the last two. I find a lot of books in that genre are incredibly boring and lack any sort of plot. I didn’t mind Wuthering Heights, but I only realized I kind of enjoyed it after being forced to read it in an english class.
I also agree with The DaVinci Code being up there, it always amazed me how much support that book actually got. People love to read controversy, even if it’s horribly inaccurate controversy.
And personally, I really like the LOTR trilogy…but I suppose this is a list about overrated novels, and I would agree they aren’t exactly the pinnacle of writing excellence.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:01 am
While I might disagree a little with the inclusion of “Confederacy Of Dunces”, I thought this a very enjoyable list.
All the issues cited with “The Da Vinci Code” are the same ones that I had with “The Celestine Prophecy”.
Never trust a trendy novel that uses big type to flesh out the volume.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:04 am
excuse me…the BIBLE anyone?????
February 10th, 2009 at 8:10 am
I do not agree on One Hundred Years of Solitude being in this list. I don’t know what translation from Spanish to English did the author of this list read, but if you read it in Spanish it is very easy and fun to read. Also, you have to know Colombia’s culture to understand the novel.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:13 am
B-On (133) Bret Easton Ellis is a woefully underrated author. Half the people who have seen the movie don’t even know it was a book.
And as my .2, I think Confederacy of Dunces should automatically be replaced by Catcher In Ihe Rye or On The Road. I don’t mind On The Road, but I’m really tired of it being the hipster bible.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:15 am
I agree with Gatsby, i will never get those forced hours of reading back…
February 10th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Gatsby is something everyone loves or hates… there doesn’t seem to be a middle ground… with that said I loved it.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Yeah, Ulysses is bunk. It’s touted by people who think they have to say good things about it (even though they haven’t read it) because of professors who say good things about it because *they* think they have to. It’s all a bit scam and nobody has yet realized, apparently, that Joyce was pranking the entire literary world (stupidly gullible as it was in the early 20th century [and still is]) with Ulysses and Finnegan’s Wake.
Anyway, the complaints about Tolkien are nonsense, and the inclusions of A Confederacy of Dunces and The Great Gatsby are bogus, of course. Wuthering Heights has a certain something to it, but it certainly is tiresome in a way. The rest I’d probably agree with, but I haven’t read most of them. Emma probably doesn’t belong on the list, given the quality of what I’ve read of Austen.
Regardless, I’m always in favor of book lists, so bravo!
February 10th, 2009 at 8:19 am
You could throw Fear and Loathing on there. Why people love that book I cannot figure out. And…Hunter S. was a dick.
I do agree with DaVinci Code. The first time I read it (drank the Kool-Aid) I loved it. By the third time I was sick of all of the “facts” you had to accept to enjoy the story.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:20 am
WHERE is ULYSSES?!?!? by james joice! it’s praised as one of the best pieces of literature of all time and it’s so out there. to the point where appreciating its stream of consciousness requires too much effort to care.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:21 am
I like the Great Gatsby, but I do agree that it is overrated and does not need to be taught in schools as much as it is. The Da Vinci Code was not very good, but Angels and Demons was. I also feel that there are some other books I recall reading in English class that were terribly overrated for me. Maybe this list should have a part 2?
February 10th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Atlas Shrugged is one of my favorite books, only because of implications of a society existing like that in the book.
I have, almost happily I guess I should say, only read one other book on this list, The DaVinci Code. I was not all that impressed with the book, the plot, everything. As for the rest, I don’t think I have an interest in reading them after reading the reviews here!
Great list!
February 10th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Here’s the thing about the DaVinci Code. I’ve never heard anyone call this a “great work of literature.” The reason this is such a pop-culture icon is because of sales and controversey. In these aspects no one argue it is overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Wuthering Heights is epic-level literary failure. I’m glad that’s finally being recognized.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:27 am
I would definately agree with LOTR’s…the hobbit was really good, but I could never get into the trilogy…
February 10th, 2009 at 8:27 am
I loved “The Great Gatsby”! It’s one of the few books that I’ve read more than once and one that I could read over and over again.
I would put “Foundation” on this list. I love Asimov but I found this book to be horribly boring and very, very dated. The “Robots” series on the other hand are fabulous must reads.
I’m also surprised “The Catcher in the Rye” wasn’t on this list. I tried to read that book twice and could never get more than about ten pages into it. Why the hell is that book so popular?
February 10th, 2009 at 8:28 am
What’s with people talking about Shakespeare, the Bible, or other holy books? THOSE AREN’T NOVELS GENIUSES. You’d think people could read the topic of the list at least. You’d also think people could engage in civil discourse without always having to pop in with anti-religious sentiment just because that’s the thing fifteen-year-old psedo-atheists do. But no, this is the internet, isn’t it?
And enough of the “literature is subjective” nonsense. There’s a subjective aspect to the appreciation of art, but it’s built on the objective nature and standard of beauty. Good is good and bad is bad and they’re only messed up in YOUR mind because you’ve given in to the art culture that KILLED art last century. Sucks to be you, but the rest of us aren’t biting.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:30 am
When I watched the Lord of the Rings trilogy, instantly I wanted nothing more than to read the books. Some Steven King novels inspired me to read the book if I had seen the movie. Dreamcatcher (while most people hated the movie itself, imagine…nasty eelish aliens in alaska…sweet!) was one of these types of movies. The movie left hundreds of plot holes throughout which forced me to read the book. The book filled in every hole while being more of a absorbing story.
The Lord of the Rings movies were incredible though. I needed to read every book ever written by Tolkien. The Hobbit kept my hopes alive with an incredible story (the ending sucked though…how lame “THE EAGLES ARE COMING” then he is knocked out, missing the entire fight). When I got to the trilogy, I had to force myself through the first 3 or 4 chapters, struggling to understand all the connections and the pointlessness of most of the dialog. Watching the Return of the King and expecting the most epic of all books because of it, I read every word of it! Wanting the final epic struggle between Frodo, Smeegle, and the Ring, to be the most intense part, expecting a near poetry of word. I got nothing. Damn Tolkien.
Randle (Clerks II, an even better movie than Lord of the Rings) got it right when he hated the “trilogy.” The books were about nothing…but walking…
BTW The Hobbit should be made into a movie.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:30 am
I didn’t read the other comments but while skimming I saw at least one other person who agrees with this: Confederacy of Dunces is an awesome book that gave me belly laughs. It does NOT belong on this list.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:32 am
171. You can get off your soap box now…
February 10th, 2009 at 8:32 am
YOU DIDN’T PUT THAT PIECE OF SHIT TWILIGHT IN HERE!?
February 10th, 2009 at 8:36 am
It’s “Deus ex Machina” Not “Dues ex Machine”.
Deus ex Machina is “God from the Machine”
February 10th, 2009 at 8:37 am
What about some of Anne Rice’s books? I like her, but when I tried to read Violin…oh my God it was painful. You couldn’t follow what she wanted in the plot line.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Sometimes I think Harry Potter is a bit overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:38 am
i agree with snowkid… i havent read a book since tommyland and the heroin diaries…. but im pretty sure twilight sucked
February 10th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Out of all the ones I have tried to read from that list, I most definitely agree!
Haha and yes, Twilight SHOULD be in there!
February 10th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Don’t disagree with anything I’ve seen – would like to add “The Godfather.” The book was horrible, the writing very basic and amateurish. The ideas are fantastic, however, and we’d never seen anything like it when it was published.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:41 am
If Twilight is considered a classic in 40 years then you are definitely right. It wasn’t a bad read though if you take it at face value.
I enjoyed Angels and Demons a lot more than DaVinci Code.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Great list, although I’ve only read a few of the books I must agree with them. The DaVinci Code was merely an interesting read, kinda the same as flipping on the TV and watching Simpsons or something. Entertaining while its on, but your not gonna take anything worthwhile away from the experience.
As for Lord of the Rings, sadly I must agree with you, even though it is one of my favorites. Several times while reading it, I skipped over pages of detail. But perhaps this is the reason why such a successful movie could be made out of it. Actually the movie was one of the rare instances where I’ve read the book first then the movie and not been disappointed. And you’re right Tolkien is far from a writer, but he does create a whole universe, with its own history, races, and languages (Elvish is actually a language!) which really gives the story depth that other fantasies lack.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:43 am
I highly agree with the Da Vinci Code and the Great Gatsby being on this list, also not a fan of Harry Potter (I just don’t think those books are well-written).
February 10th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Just to clear up my comment, Gatsby is obviously well-written, I mean the Harry Potter books aren’t
February 10th, 2009 at 8:45 am
And talking about Brown and DaVinci Code, I read Angels and Demons as well. Being an astrophysicist, I could not get past the terrible inaccuracies that the whole plot revolves around so I did not enjoy it too much. Just shows you that Dan Brown takes a little truth and bends it, which is fine because it is fiction. It’s just sad that some people actually believe what he writes.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:46 am
I tried to read “Atlas Shrugged”, but couldn’t get into it. There was too much pointless dialogue. You should do a list of “Underrated Novels”, and it should include the “Clan of the Cave Bear” series. I am reading it now, and it is genius.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:47 am
To JFrater,
At your recommendation, I have read “The Devil in the Flesh”. I pray that, someday, I may be able to properly repay you for this gift. It was 127 pages of spun gold.
Brando, Hunter was a dick…but fear and loathing was genius. True, the movie sucked but the book is one hell of a ride. If you’ve ever dabbled in recreational pharmaceuticals, this book is your bible.
Having said that…Stephanie Meyer’s ham-handed writing is a microcosm of what is wrong with literature today. I am going to personally purchase her a dictionary and a thesaurus. The moment she approaches a keyboard, she should be smacked on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and repeatedly told “No….No….bad writer” until she retreats back to her crate. She can lick her wounds while resting on that huge pile of money that she got by conning 12 yr old girls out of their Christmas cash.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:47 am
nice article
February 10th, 2009 at 8:48 am
i can’t say anything about the rest, but gatsby is one of my favorites
February 10th, 2009 at 8:50 am
I agree w/ sled..fear and loathing was a classic…even better in print than on film
February 10th, 2009 at 8:50 am
I don’t think the Lord of the Rings is overrated. It’s a book that needs time to read and once you get past the initial stages, it’s definitely interesting, sub-plots and all.
The only other book I’ve read on this list is Dan brown’s. Now that’s definitely overrated and had a terrible ending.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Of all those, the only one I read was Wuthering Heights. I kinda liked it.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:56 am
187. deepthinker….try giving it another shot and just get through the dialogue. I think there is a 70 page speech in there towards the end. It is still a good book if you really get into the whole plot of the book!
February 10th, 2009 at 8:56 am
I think Harry Potter should be on here too… the movies are much better than the books.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:57 am
I don’t think calling a book dated is a valid literary criticism. These books were written in the past. Are you suggesting anything not written now (and thus not dated) has no literary value? The books are written considering the social, political and cultural norms of the times they were written. Of course a Jane Austen book will be dated. It was written 300 years ago! That’s the point, it provides a portrait into the past.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:58 am
LOL…here my name was wrong for all these posts! Not enough sleep to be thinking straight. For those Twilight people…I’ve never read the book for the fact that it seemed to me to be written as a love story for tweens or teenagers. Can anyone tell me differently?
February 10th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Sure, I think more than half your list is bullshit, but you make your case and I can always write my own damn list if I want.
However, any list of crap overrated novels must include the crappiest overrated novel of all time: Catcher in the Rye. (I see from comments that I’m not alone in this.) I use it as a good litmus test for people’s literary judgment: if they think it’s a classic, I consider their other literary opinions suspect. Anyone who still thinks it’s a good book as and adult had their intellect flash-frozen at age 15.
Same goes for every word ever written by Virginia Woolf, who should have her own category. Seriously: Wuthering Heights (at least it’s a good Gothic) and not To The Lighthouse or Mrs. Dalloway? Were you back on the pipe when you wrote this?
February 10th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Ernnas- thanks… I might do that. I bought the book because of so much talk about it on this site. But, I just had to give up on it. Of course, seeing the movie about Ayn Rand may have discouraged me too- the movie portrayed her as a lunatic feminist that just liked to hear herself talk. But, you can’t really believe anything you see in a movie! So, maybe I will give it another go…
February 10th, 2009 at 9:01 am
can we see a list for the greatest disparity between popularity and quality…slightly different, but it would open the door to books that aren’t critically acclaimed but immensely popular regardless.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:03 am
too late, hopefully I’ll win next time, lets hear it for the king
February 10th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Anything by John Irving.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:05 am
to expand on the previous comment…i’m speaking of “the secret and books of its ilk. books like that really bother me. the idea that people are looking towards that junk for guidance is frightening.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Nothing is more overrated than Penthouse Forum, because, c’mon that stuff just doesn’t happen!
February 10th, 2009 at 9:07 am
WELLLLL….
I *was* going to write “RANDALL AGREES WITH AND SANCTIONS THIS LIST” so’s to lend the weight of my name and lofty reputation to the legitimacy of said list; but as it happens, the more I think about it, the more reservations I have.
First of all, Shane, I’m with you in spirit. No one is more happy than me when balloons of pomposity are busted. Not in the least because it makes more room for MY balloon of pomposity, which is zeppelin-sized by now. But I can’t in good conscience just get behind the entire list as it is.
First of all, The Lord of the Rings is a good call. I loved LOTR when I was a kid and read it several times. It’s doubtful I shall do so again, however. There were too many instances, in my earlier attempts at it, when I found myself skipping whole chunks (with no attendant loss to the narrative as far as I was concerned) because they were just dull expositions on this or that minor plot point that I just couldn’t see the importance of. On later attempts I forced myself to eat up the whole thing, but it was never palatable. I found that LOTR worked much better as a radio play (if you haven’t heard the BBC radio play of LOTR, done in about 1979, I think, I’d urge all of you to check it out) where some of its excesses were pared down to a manageable state.
I also agree on many of the other choices here (including Atlas Shrugged–sorry Jamie, but Ayn Rand truly was a pedantic bore, in my opinion, and I found wading through AS and The Fountainhead to be sheer torture) but as the list grew closer to number one, it began to go south as far as I was concerned.
See, I’d be interested to hear what Shane’s idea of a truly great novel IS. Now, it’s perhaps true that some of these ARE overrated—nevertheless, a matter of degrees in the legitimacy of a novel’s reputation is hardly something to harp on. “The Great Gatsby” a “lame, rehashed soap opera”? Hardly, Shane. Not All That, perhaps yes. But what you seem to have utterly missed is A) the value of Fitzgerald’s select and well-structured prose, and B) the great resonance that the character of Gatsby himself has and had over the years, and what a classic character he in fact is. The greatest novel of all time? Nah. But it’s hardly wallowing in flaws. It’s a fairly spare, direct, and well-crafted story with a great central character. Overrated? Sure. But only by a few marks. Not by leaps and bounds. In other words, you seem to have contempt for it as a book, and dismiss it. I would never go that far. To me, it works. I don’t prefer it to other books, but neither do I have the contempt for it that you apparently have.
I’d say similar things about “A Confederacy of Dunces.” It just doesn’t belong. Overrated? Maybe. But to be honest I’ve always thought of it as something of a cult piece in a way (that may be stretching it a bit far, but I’m not so sure) and so surely it’s hard to say it’s “overrated” in the way I think you actually mean.
Again, I come back to this–I wonder, Shane, how you define what a novel is and more to the point what you define as “value” in a novel. I think sometimes the problem is that we generally “overrate” the entire CONCEPT of the novel in the first place—as though it was the be all and end all of literature, hands down. It isn’t. And I wonder if perhaps you’re dismissing the books on this list out of some vaunted idea of what a novel “should” be—again, I wonder what YOUR select list of “great” novels would be, or list of “underrated” novels would look like—rather than on their actual value as individual works. “Emma” may be, as you say, the stuff of teenage girl noodlings on a summer afternoon—but I’m not so sure it was anything ever BUT that—but does that make it in any way bad? As a story, it works. Its characters work. It has some wit and charm to it. The perfect novel? I don’t know. I wouldn’t say that. Overrated? Perhaps yes. But THE most overrated novel of all? No. Come on. Give to me a break.
Even “Wuthering Heights”–which I’m almost inclined to agree with you 100% on—I’m not so sure that you’ve found the right reason for including it here. It is, rather, the morbid, weird tone and subject matter of it (akin to “Jayne Eyre” in more ways than one) that has both fascinated and repelled readers over the years, and this has been recognized by most critics I’m aware of. Whether good or bad, both books have maintained this hold on people, and while it’s perfectly true that they may have been “overrated” in the past (as we move further from the Victorians, the more their literature loses its pasty crust of reputation) they’re held to be–and correctly I think–veritable studies of weird psyches and equally weird psychological portrayals and plots. Overrated then? I’m not so sure.
The thing is, Shane—I’ve not only been an English major myself, in the past–but I’ve actually managed several bookstores. People are not compelled to buy these books–but they do. Whether they read them? Who can say? My guess is that some of them certainly are NOT read, once taken home. And surely too many people lugged home crap like “The DaVinci Code,” read it, and loved it. (or did they?) But people DO also keep coming back to “Gatsby” and “Emma” and several of the others on this list, and that’s at least part of the measure of a work of art–if it survives. So far these have.
The ones that are truly overrated–Don Delillo, for instance–that survive only on the will of English professors—well, they’ll fall away in time. But some of these books have had one hundred years or more to fall away, and haven’t. English profs can’t keep public opinion at bay for THAT long and to that degree.
So I think on a few counts here, you hit the mark. On others, you were slightly to WAY off.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:08 am
>Nothing is more overrated than Penthouse Forum, because, c’mon that stuff just doesn’t happen!
Everyone always says they believe that the stuff in Forum never happens to them, but then this one day, when I was….
February 10th, 2009 at 9:11 am
thanks stevek, but i’m not sure that i won. am i reading it incorrectly, or will the winner be chosen at random? also, it appears as though i was posting as a guest
February 10th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Hype can really propel mediocrity…
February 10th, 2009 at 9:13 am
i thought th worst part of lord of the rings was that, above all it seemed slow. How many pages does it take to do a party scene?
February 10th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Yeah, I know Duckie, walking to school when you noticed the neighbor lady changing the drapes naked, . . .
February 10th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Completely agree about the Da Vinci Code. Everytime somebody brings it up as being amazing or whatever, I can’t stop myself from arguing it. It’s a seriously awful book.
I also agree about Wuthering Heights, because although I think it’s a damned good book (I’m sorry but there is no way one can say that it’s not pretty awesome) it keeps overshadowing her sister’s book, Jane Eyre, which is one of my favourite books of all time. Wuthering Heights doesn’t even come close to the awesomeness of Jane Eyre.
And I also agree with whoever said Virginia Woolf. Overrated and pretentious.
Also, to everyone who is saying Twilight, I have to, again, agree. Pretty much everyone is getting caught up in the hype, I have some friends who are seriously obsessed with it, and it’s a horribly written book which is basically telling young girls to marry and give up their entire life for a guy at 18, and to not abort a baby even if it claws its way out of their stomach when you give birth.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Randall, I direct your attention to a forum PM I sent you.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:18 am
I agree with almost all of the list besides 100 Years of Solitude. Of course I’m biased, I think of Marques as the best author of all times and Solitude to be his best work.
I disagree with most of the comments. Most people find overrated books that were too dificult to read, books that they could never finish. These are the books I respect the most. I am a huge reader and there was only one book I could never finish: Kafka’s The Trial. Does that mean that The Trial is overrated?
And on the comments about Harry Potter; it’s a children’s book. You shouldn’t expect intellectual writting. As a children’s book is it very well written.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Da Vinci code is the most overrated yeah! true that.
But wuthering heights, come on it’s quite a good read.
I loved it, I read it once every few years.
LotR was good, but the descriptions of the surroundings just took forever. I hated it. But the whole world he created with it, also with the other books for background info, is marvelous.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:19 am
A Confederacy of Dunces?!?!?! AAAAAACK! I love that book…It’s hysterically funny and touching. I had no idea people didn’t like it. I have loaned that book to so many who said they loved it. Perhaps they were lying to me…
February 10th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Oh thank god. The Da Vinci Code actually made me *angry* it was so factually flawed… I might go so far as to call it a good read (if you like that sort of thing) but the publicity surrounding it and the fact that it was dubbed as being a historical ‘expose’ of sorts made me want to break things!
Funny this list should come out today…. my local bookshop is doing a sale on ‘classics’ and I nearly bought ‘Emma’ just because I thought I should read it…. won’t waste my time and/or money on it now! :p
February 10th, 2009 at 9:23 am
I was so, so highly dissapointed not to see Harry Potter on that list.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:25 am
I would argue that Underworld is one of the most UNDERrated novels of all time.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:28 am
just to clarify…”overrated” doesn’t necessarily mean “bad” In a previous comment, I said I enjoyed On the Road, but I think it’s overrated. Cazz, go on and read Emma. You might like it.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:28 am
I’ve actually never read any of these books, which I guess could be a good thing.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Oh… I hate Jane Austens shit! I feel sorry for whoever has to read 1 of her shitty crap stories (like me)
February 10th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Ok, i’m a little lazy so i’m not gonna read all the comments before me, but one book I think is missing from your list is Native Son by Richard Wright. I had to read this in high school, and to this day I have not found a book I hate more. The main character is beyond stupid and I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.
Also, the Scarlet Letter is pretty terrible too, but I know lots of people liked that one in high school (that i knew of at least)
February 10th, 2009 at 9:33 am
I have to add ‘The Scarlet Letter’, it was so dull I actually fell asleep reading it!
February 10th, 2009 at 9:34 am
For anyone saying that they now won’t read a certain book because of this…
Just because it’s overrated doesn’t mean you won’t enjoy it, or even love it. I totally agree with Callie, overrated doesn’t equal bad.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:36 am
I agree with everything on this list..
Atlas Shrugged..
Ack, it took 30 pages to find out the train was late..
Should also include:
The Satanic Verses
The Pillars of the Earth
Anything by ‘Shakespeare’
February 10th, 2009 at 9:37 am
I’m always entertained by the fact that so many praise Atlas Shrugged for its quality and ‘depth’, despite the fact that it’s just a vehicle for Rand’s uninspired philosophy (which itself is just her pseudo-Nietzschean ramblings).
February 10th, 2009 at 9:42 am
David Foster Wallace’s “Infinite Jest”. 1000 pages of unreadable dribble.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:43 am
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy are among the greatest worlds created by man, Just like Dune or the HP series
February 10th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Ack! Dune..
I forgot to add Dune to ‘What should have been on this list..’
February 10th, 2009 at 9:49 am
i can definately agree with lord of the rings. i tried to read the book before the movie, but it was just so fucking boring and dense!!
i’ve noticed many popular books are overrated- i would add twilight and harry potter to these, and i don’t even care if i get flamed because they are basically children’s books. but even so they should have better writing quality.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:49 am
I love ‘The Da Vinci Code’, it was provocative for how many ever reasons but a damn good read none the less!
February 10th, 2009 at 9:50 am
I agree with most on the list, well the ones that I personally have read. I’ve tried to get through Wuthering Heights many times and simply could not do it.
Also, definitely agree that Twilight is horribly overrated. I am desperately trying to get through it right now, but it is horribly written and way too perfect and pretentious to be true. The plot was a good idea that went in the total wrong direction
Harry Potter, on the other hand, is NOT NOT NOT overrated. J.K. Rowling is a wonderful author and whoever said that she is a bad write obviously is a dumbass. I could understand not liking the books because magic, etc is not your forte, but saying she is bad writer is simply NOT TRUE. The plot is well thought-out and everything at the end connects wonderfully and makes perfect sense. She thought it out amazingly.
If J.K. Rowling had written Twilight, it would have been a much better book. Stephenie Meyer writes like a love-sick 13-year-old girl.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:51 am
+1 vote for Catch 22
February 10th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Congratulations on a successfully controversial list. 229 comments and counting. I’m just surprised at all the comments that LOTR sucks and the Hobbit was the only good book of the series. The Hobbit is a children’s book, not a novel.
Regarding the comments on Harry Potter.. I don’t think it’s over-rated, because it’s not portrayed as a pinnacle of fiction. It’s just a fun read. And it’s a children’s book as well.
But then I guess I’m just a person of low intellect, because I thoroughly enjoy Catcher in the Rye.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:56 am
I also agree with chris1372002. I have never heard of anyone saying The Da Vinci code was written well or a great novel. I don’t even think anyone I know liked it very much. It sold well and got hype because of controversy, so I don’t think it belongs on this list either.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Burgerbuddy, dude, don’t be bringin me in on this conversation on a serious note. C’mon everybody expects me to be the class clown.
Billy Shakes wasn’t and isn’t and never will be overrated. You might not understand everything he wrote, you might not like certain plays, you might have been forced to read that in Jr and Sr. High, but overrated he is not. I shitteth thee not.
Don’t believe me? Go read a sonnet to a chick and watch that shit melt. FUCKING MELT before your eyes. You’ll be the suavest poem readin’ pimp on the block.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:58 am
I disagreed about “A Confederacy of Dunces” but I understand that not every book will appeal to every person.
As the years roll forward, the newer books crowd out the ones that were considered ‘good’ and ‘popular’ and in 20 odd years people might consider stuff like Harry Potter to be ‘literature’ who knows.
For myself, I hated “A Separate Peace” but some people drool over that one, so it’s all relative isn’t it.
However, I completely agree on “The DaVinci Code”. My MIL sent me a copy of it, before it was available in paperback here. I gave it away on Freecycle. The person who picked it up acted like 47 different government agencies were on their tail, and they slunk up, whispered a few things, got their book, and quickly slunk away.
I prefer reading things with a little more substance maybe. I don’t know.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:59 am
I can tell that one hundred years of solitude is more readable in Spanish, I actually read it. I think that Catcher in the Rye would be in this list, even if many lifes had change.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:02 am
I love to come on listverse and see that the list for the day has more comments already then several of the previous lists combined. I see it a a sign that today is going to be a great day.
While I love LOTR I can understand why some people some people don’t like it and can see how it could be considered overrated. I feel it is a great novel but that it doesn’t appeal to massive amounts of people you have to really enjoy history to be able to enjoy LOTR and especially the Similarion.
On to my inclusions to the list.
I would have added Catcher in the Rye. I do think it is a good novel but it is severely overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:04 am
I’ve been trying to read nr 1 for a couple of months now. It’s quite boring and I can barely understand a word of it.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:17 am
…well i think “One hundred years of solitude” is an amazing book, but i agree, it is really hard to read and understand, specially the part of the war, not only was it hard, it was boring as hell!
overrated?? i think not, maybe the people who think that haven’t analyse the book in depth, or maybe it’s not understood because it shows the reality of latin america during the time it was written (the train with thousands of dead people anyone?)
anyway i love the book, and it isn’t a nobel price for being overrated!
Here’s an excellent analysis, i hope it helps you understand the book
http://www.gradesaver.com/one-hundred-years-of-solitude/
And i completely agree with lord of the rings and specially the Da Vinci code, i hate the fact that almost everyone i know got obsessed with it and thought it was true, and it has so many mistakes is unbelievable!!
February 10th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Whem I saw the list title I thought to myself Lord of the Rings has to be on here. And then I see it and started laughing when I read the the hobbit was the only good book. I have had that opinion for a very long time. When I was in 5th grade we read the Hobbit and I liked it so much I decided to read the actual trilogy. I don’t think I made it past the first few chapters. I was so bored and unimpressed. I would have preferred actually reading the things we were assigned to read. And to top it off I think I got through the first hundred pages like three different times over the past several years and I eventually gave up. It didn’t seem to matter what age I was, there was no way I was gonna like those books.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:23 am
i’ve never heard of Confederacy of Dunces, however i’ll agree with the Da Vinci code however before I knew more about it I didn’t mind the movie for what it was worth.
The lord of the rings .. i only read the hobbit, and saw the movies. however the hobbit wasn’t bad, but if the lord of the rings and other of these books are making this list, are we sure we really want to read any of them? haha
luckily i already have a long list of novels to read that are highly recommended by some opinions i trust.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Okay, so this is an example of a GOOD list. Well written, easy to follow, and well researched. I have to agree with most of the entries, as well. I’m really glad I’m not the only one who thinks that Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Ayn Rand are overrated, amongst others on this list.
I get the feeling the “overratedness” of the books comes from English teachers/professors inability to be creative. Now, I know that teaching is a hard profession and you pour a lot of unpaid time into it, but if teachers would stop relying on already written tests and guides and pick their own books, we wouldn’t have so much of this. Well, less teachers, actually, and more standardized testing that scares the teachers into picking certain books.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Lord of the Rings, Emma, Atlas shrugged…
Completely overrated.
I cringed when everyone started to read Lord of the Rings after the movies came out. I tried to warn them but alas, nobody listened.
Atlas Shrugged, the whole time I read it I could hear Ayn Rand patting herself on the back and telling herself how smart she was. Of course, being a Dorthy Parker fan I’m probably just bias.
And Emma… groan. Jane Austin’s writing is simplistic and dated. It’s plot meanders on with paper thing characters…
February 10th, 2009 at 10:28 am
To 160. Callie
American Psycho is the kind of book you write when you have a need to publically express your perverted sick ideas about body mutilation and murder in various sadistic forms. Then you frame this garbage with a story and volia, you have a best seller novel.
If there is a point to this book, which I seriously doubt, then Ellis needs to learn how to get it accross.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:29 am
This list is a fabulous example of what happens when literature reaches cult status and is not read for the content, but the hype surrounding it.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Wow, as if the list wasn’t controversial enough to provoke hundreds of comments, it has a competition too? Comments will be going through the roof, obviously.
I LIKED THE DAVINCI CODE, there I said it. Why? Well, simply because it was FUN. Yes, maybe it’s factually flawed, maybe its writing isn’t the best in English literature, and maybe the hype was exaggerated, but dammit, I enjoyed reading the darn thing.
So I would say that The Da Vinci Code is a “good” book the same way a popcorn movie is a “good” movie: it may not be the most intellectually astounding thing you’ve seen, but you’ll have a good time with it.
So if you’re into that sort of thing, you should definitely check out Angels and Demons, which I consider superior and even more fun than Da Vinci.
And for the love of gods, stay away from that awful Da Vinci code movie!!!
February 10th, 2009 at 10:34 am
What, no ‘Gone with the Wind”? I was sure that was going to be a winner.
And I agree with no. 1. If you read Jane Austen’s novels, they are all basically the same.
Oh! And thank you for no. 2! I was feeling guilty for not liking it. I couldn’t even read it to the end, it just looked like a Victorian soap-opera. Nothing happens!!!
February 10th, 2009 at 10:34 am
agree or disagree i can do neither ive only read two of these books. tried to read a couple of the others . just could not do it . that said any list that gets people to talk about books and maybe reading one or two is a good one.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:35 am
By the way, “Deus Ex Machinae” is what I think you meant, which if I’m not mistaken is the correct plural of Deus Ex Machina.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:37 am
No mention of “Ulysses”? The most overrated piece of tripe it has ever been my misfortune to plow through. It always come up on lists of the “best novels of the 20th century” but I have to wonder if any of those listmakers ever actually read it. Yes, it was groundbreaking, yes, it was shocking. That doesn’t make it good.
I can take or leave “The Great Gatsby” (This Side of Paradise is much better) and “Confederacy of Dunces” (starts brilliantly but gets weak towards the end), but I can’t countenance including Wuthering Heights on this list. It is gorgeous.
To this list I would add:
An American Tragedy (Theodore Dreiser)
Naked Lunch (William S. Burroughs)
The Alchemist (Paulo Coelho)
February 10th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Catch 22, agreed. It’s too bad because I love the writing, and it’s funny, but damn is that book way too long to sufficiently hold interest.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:43 am
I way preferred “Angels & Demons” to DaVinci Code anyday. I read the former first and it made me more stoked for “Code”..but in the end I felt really bored and dis-interested with DiVinci. There was far more suspense and action in “Angels”.
Man, I suffered through Gastsby and Wuthering Heights in high school….I really enjoyed “The Plague” though for some reason.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:47 am
I read a comment here, something saying that the harry Potter films were better than the books….
I’d strongly disagree, the films are terrible, you could start watching any of those and imidiatly guess the entire plot correctly, without having read the book. The acting is generaly weak and theres realy nothing special in any of them.
The books however, are overrated but readable. At the time i enjoyed them but I find it very hard to understand these people who choose to read all 7 back to back, its just too much of the same to me.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:49 am
I think you could add any Chuck Palhuiank book outside of Fight Club (which is still probably overrated. Also, by far not a classic, but has received a lot of praise for its style, “House of Leaves” by Mark Danielewski. It was very ambitious in its experimental style, and really was a compelling read, but the ending sucked harder than anything I have ever read. The ending really makes you regret whatever entertainment you had earlier in the novel, where the ambitious writing is now replaced by extreme pretentiousness.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Well well, seems your mind has opened a little bit Jamie. You could do SO much with the LV; don’t be affraid to try.
Ok, the comments: A few have mentioned the religions texts, and my thoughts on this are that they are now thousands of years old, and have been redrafted so many times – by so many individuals – that some things don’t make sense anymore. Lost in translation.
Agree with Harry Potter, though for me, Lord of the Flies is worse than LOTR. The second half of the book is so much like tongue-in-cheek that I never wanted to finish it.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Wait what, I can win something? for free?
February 10th, 2009 at 10:52 am
i have not read most of these novles but i have read The Lord of The Rings and i think that it is deffinitly overrated due to the fact that every body thinks its the best written novel in the world when it has a horribley boring writing style that does not draw the reader in. but on ther other hand i think that it is an amazing story and it is great for the vast amount of informaion that JRR Tolkien put in to the books. so it is good and it is bad in ways
February 10th, 2009 at 10:53 am
You need to be a little careful about what you mean by “Overrated.”
The list implies that books need to be written with a high quality of literary style to be considered great or classic. I’m not sure that’s the case at all. Sometimes impact or uniqueness is more important than simple literary quality and is what makes something a classic.
For instance LoTR. It’s well recognized that Tolkien’s writing style is abysmal and that he tends to violate every rule of effective writing ever defined. After the first time I don’t think I’ve ever read the Tom Bombadil chapter again and some of his attempts at epic poetry are downright awful.
But that’s not the point. The novel is considered a classic because (1) it works in spite of its shortcomings and (2) it initiated the popularity of a whole new genre of writing, the serious adult fantasy novel.
I think some similar reason for the label of classic might be said of Wurthering Heights and possibly A Passage to India as well.
If you mean books who’s literary quality is overrated, you’d definitely have to remove LoTR because I don’t know of anyone that’s called the writing style anything but amateurish.
Someone suggested that Harry Potter belongs on the list. I’d say it does not if for no other reason than the impact the series had on getting children to read more. Again it was the impact that was important rather then the literary quality of the book.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:54 am
@ comment 69. Scarlet Letter was absolutely horrid (brings back repressed memories of Junior year). I had a teacher who was completely in love with Nathaniel Hawthorne. She had a framed picture of him on her desk which was creepy enough, but we also pretty much spent the entire semester on the novel.
That being said, most of the overrated books seem to be in print today only because of professors and teachers who long for drawn out dated literature they remember instead of finding current novels to read which could accomplish the same effect in a possibly more up to date and relate-able format.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:57 am
First of all, minor typo, but the plural of “deus ex machina” is “deus ex machinae”…
Secondly, I knew Atlas Shrugged would be on the list, but I think it’s somewhat misinterpreting to read it as fiction. It’s fiction in the same manner as The Republic is, yeah there’s fictional window dressing but in reality it is a work of philosophy.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:58 am
I would bet that every comment author on this list could create their own “Top 10 Overrated Books” list and no two would be identical. Great list…and ambitious!
February 10th, 2009 at 11:00 am
I love Lord of the Rings. But admittedly, I am the only person in my family who made it through Fellowship, let alone, the whole series.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:01 am
I agree with the Great Gatsby, DaVinci Code, and the Lord of the Rings being here. I liked them all, but they are way overrated!!! I also think that Stephanie Meyers Twilight series is overrated to…
February 10th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Good list,
Must admit I did enjoy the Da Vinci code somewhat. Did seem like Mr Brown was going for the highest controversy level available though.
Good list!
February 10th, 2009 at 11:05 am
I thought all along it was “Douche ex Machinae” – I’m pretty sure I saw it out of the corner of my eye at the drug store last night in the “Women’s Needs” aisle.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Don Delillo is NOT overrated, the man is brilliant. He’s up there with Cormac McCarthy, Philip Roth, Thomas Pynchon, Toni Morrison… and Ayn Rand. Give both of them another try.
I didn’t intend to disagree so much, and I don’t on the whole, but I just finished A Passage to India, and disagree with that pick as well. I quite enjoyed it.
The synopses on Emma and DaVinci Code are hilarious. The others I have not read and can’t comment on, but I will tell you that your description of 100 Years turned me on to it rather than off. Weird.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Where is Harry Potter or Twilight?
February 10th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I definetly agree with this list. Especially The DaVinci Code. I could barely read that book it was so terrible.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:22 am
I have to disagree with LOTR.I was introduced to it via the Hobbit as a child and that was it for me. I was hooked. When you consider that it took 14 YEARS to write, through 2 world wars when Tolkein actually wrote some pieces whilst in the trenches, and as mentioned previously the level of detail given to Middle Earth and Elvish etc. its a really incredible piece of fiction. I’ve heard that there is now a degree in Tolkeinism at Oxford(?)
February 10th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Thank you for adding “GATSBY”. In high school I thought it was only mandatory reading because we live near his house (Saint Paul, MN). I’m still not exactly sure what the point was.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Harry Potter: Not on the list presumably because no one (at least no one who counts) rates it as great writing. Same for “Twilight”, anything by Dan Brown, or “Catch-22″.
Somebody complaining about “anglosphere”? Pathetic. Compared to the canon of western literature, ANYTHING from other cultures is overrated. Even Western Lit’s mediocrities (Bronte – pick one; Dickens, Kipling, etc.) are better than the best of other cultures.
Catcher in the Rye BELONGS here at #1.
Anything by Nabokov should definitely be here. Lolita is an easy target, but I’m nominating “King, Queen, Knave”
LOTR belongs here too. The movies told the story the books should have, if Tolkien hadn’t wimped out every time someone started to bleed.
Vonnegut, where’s Vonnegut? Excepting his pencil drawings of the human anus of course. That’s Art!
February 10th, 2009 at 11:29 am
I thought this was a list of most overrated not worst books. There is a difference. I’ve read seven of these and while I enjoyed some of them, I agree that all of them were/are overrated. Danielle Steel would completely fill a list of worst books ever all by herself.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:32 am
I agree with the Catcher in the Rye. I couldn’t even finish it, it bored me to tears.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Hooray! Some of these books I like, some I hate. Still a hard list to argue with. My only point to be made is that while all the other books the list have some traits worthy of respect, Da Vinci Code is utter trash where it’s best quality is a third grader could read it.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Oh thank God you included The Great Gatsby! We were forced to read it for school in 11th grade, and I thought it was just horrible. Our teacher of course thought it was wonderful, but to me, that was the year of literary torture, Great Gatsby AND Catcher in the Rye! This is coming from someone who loves to read, and truly enjoyed most of the books we read in school.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Wow I was about to say the same thing as DK. I had to read “The Great Gatsby” my Junior year of high school and I absolutely hated it! I felt like I was missing something when everyone claims its their favorite book.
I do love “The Da Vinci Code” though. I am one of those people who do take it with a grain of salt and appreciate it as an exciting work of fiction.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Interesting list- I think most of the selection you made were on point but I have to disagree with 100 years of solitude. It was not on any of my required reading lists but I completelt fell for the writing of Gabriel Garcia Marquez and I think most of the points you made were a direct reflection of the writing style and culture/subject matter in the book.
I would rather have seen Catcher in the Rye or one of the many contemporary King books on here. About “catcher” – I read it first in abotu 8th grade. It was such a taboo and controversial book I couldn’t wait to read it – I reread it again in my early 20’s and still didn’t get all the hype. Just my opinion.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:53 am
I really disagree with the choice of Lord of the Rings. I think that even if the writing doesnt compare to other great works, the creativity and plot MORE than make up for it.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:55 am
I’m pretty sure Joy Luck Club by Amy Tan needs to be up here. Lord of the Flies, and To kill a mocking bird should be honorable mentions.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I dont think emma is anywhere rated highly out of the austen books! wuthering heights i disagree, since it does have some characters that make the reader very intrigued. I read this just last week for the first time!
February 10th, 2009 at 11:57 am
When I saw the title of this list, I thought “The Great Gatsby.” I just don’t see what all the fuss is about. I’ve actually had to teach it in a lit class (I had let the students pick the book — it wasn’t my choice). After that, they went back to trusting my opinion and letting me pick the books.
As for Catcher in the Rye, i think it depends on your age when you read it. If you’re outside of your teen-angst years, it completely loses its value.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:59 am
‘Moby Dick’ is definitely the most overrated work of fiction on the planet. 500 pages chasing a whale (including several chapters solely on the innards of a whale, which I have NEVER needed to know) and then 20 pages dying all to prove that obsession is dangerous? Thank you, Herman Melville, for sucking my will to live over the course of three weeks in my AP English class. Death to the White Whale!
Also, I really liked ‘The Great Gatsby.’
February 10th, 2009 at 11:59 am
I think “Of Mice and Men” is one of the most overrated novels that I have read. Everyone is forced to read it at some point in their education, and I will never understand why it is regarded as a classic.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
I loved the Lord of the Rings books and The Da Vinci Code. Having said that…I agree that the “Rings” books are a lot about the scenery followed by short action scenes. The Hobbit was much better. As for the “Code” book…it was fun to read. That’s all. “Emma” was very boring. BTW…another book that is like this one is “Mnemonic the Devil” by Anne Rice. Talk about boring. I skipped so many pages and didn’t lose the pace…:)
Also, Harry Potter was the most imaginative set of books out there and those who comment that they are overrated probably didn’t read them. Another set to include would be the Twilight series…yeah…another set of books about vampires…
February 10th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Well said Bob #177!
February 10th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
294. oouchan. I agree with Anne Rice’s later works. I heard somewhere that she kept editing control over the books and you can tell it in some of her works, she knows where she is heading and sometimes you can follow along, other times it takes forever to get there! I have, unfortunately, read all of her books. I should have given up on some of them after the first few chapters!
February 10th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
I would have to disagree with Tolkien’s inclusion on the list. Never thought it was his writing style that made the trilogy great, but rather the scope of his imagination. The history, the languages; the fullness of this alternate world.
I also preferred Wuthering Heights to any of her sisters’ works; but that’s probably just me. I enjoy the darkness.
Gotta agree with whomever mentioned The Satanic Verses – couldn’t get past the first few pages. It’s the virgin in my bookcase; never been touched.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
I’ve read The Great Gatsby and really, really enjoyed it. As a 17 year old, something in it really spoke to me about the way the characters conducted their lives and relationships. (It was probably BECAUSE I was 17… not sure how I’d read it today!)
As for Wuthering Heights- ugh, I thought that book would never end. The film is just as bad.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I loved Gatsby!
February 10th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
I do not believe that Atlas Shrugged belongs on this list, and time is proving that it is one of the greats.
As an overrated book, I would like to offer up Hemingway’s “The Old Man And The Sea”. Short book, but it has put me to sleep quickly, more than once.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
I have always felt this way about Wuthering Heights. It’s boring and overrated, nothing really happens and no one can explain to me why we still read it.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
do i count? even though i am past 200 comments, haha oh well!! sweet list jfray
February 10th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
I agree that Twilight should be on the list. It’s ploddingly-written with so much purple prose, anti-feminist ideas, barely researched, and it glorifies an abusive relationship as love.
It just plain sucks.
Eragon deserves to be on the list too – not only is it badly written, but almost everything in it is plagiarized from either Star Wars, Lord of the Rings or The Dragon Riders of Pern.
And why shouldn’t they be included? They are hideously overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
296. Ernmas: Yeah…i read them too. At least it helped me fall aleep at night! She had such wonderful set of books to start with…then she went overboard. Half the time, I wondered if she knew what she was writing!
side note: Stephen King and Dean Koontz had the same thing happen to their books. One minute they had best sellers with amazing plots that scared the crap out of you…then there was nothing! Bag of Bones, Geralds Game, Sole Survivor, One Door Away from Heaven…these were boring. They saved themselves when King wrote Cell and Koontz wrote Taken. Both very good reads!
February 10th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Another book that is taught in every high school in America and is generally considered a classic but i think is overrated: 1984 by George Orwell. Say what you will, but I thought the book was rather stupid and boring.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
~rubbing my eyes, red and dry from reading 280 posts~
Good heavens, people! Do you know how many of you repeated, almost word for word, posts that had been posted before you? God, it’s so inane.
Anyway:
Random Rose, 133 – I have read Ulysses by James Joyce all the way through. It’s wonderful. If you can’t get past the first paragraph, that says more about you than it says about Joyce.
Randall, 211 – all in all, I agree with you. I too loved LOTR as a child, but when I tried to reread it in high school I found it unreadable.
Ayn Rand. A pedantic bore. A much nicer sorbiquet than I would have given her. Her writing (all of it) suffered from her self image and the adoring entourage in perpetual attendance.
I love Fitzgerald. I love him because he captured the essence of his time as surely as a camera.
Dan Brown, DaVinci Code, Demons & Angels and whatever else he comes out with will not stand the test of time. He is a poor writer who happened to be in the right place at the right time.
It happens. It shouldn’t.
I’d say the same thing about Delillo.
Randall was onto something when he said that Emma, and perhaps Jane Eyre, were light summer reading for girls. I know they were considered so in my house…but then so was Tolstoy.
Reading is an individual sport. Reading for entertainment is more than vegging out in front of the TV. Reading for entertainment is also supposed to stretch your grey matter, to make it stronger and more flexible. That’s why you should always read something that’s a bit of a challenge to read. It’s good for you.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Reyairia #303: They shouldn’t be on this list because they aren’t considered classic literary works in the first place. It doesn’t particularly surprise me that neither is well-written. I despise that whole genre that Eragon seems to be in (I admit I’m judging this exclusively on the movie trailer) – half-assed ripoffs of Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter. Kids today deserve better than all that the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe BS.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
@305. i read 1984 so long ago, but i still remember lines from it that were unbelievable. it was so well written.
Anyone read “The Stranger”? I hated every minute of reading it, and then i read the last 5 pages. and it blew my mind. unbelievable. Such a great payoff.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
#178 MiskoBinesii-believe “Dreamcatchers” took place in Maine, they end up at the Quabbin Resevoir in Mass
#292 The Random Friend-”Moby Dick” sucks a lot, I’ll rather
read Steinbeck describe a turtle anytime
#193 deepthinker-I loved the “Earth’s Children” series but talk about detail! Now if we could just get Jean Auel to just finish the damn thing! I spent twenty years reading Stephen King’s “The Gunslinger” series, thank God he wasn’t killed in that accident…
February 10th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
A Confederacy of Dunces is not overrated. Rabble rabble.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Your only error is The Great Gatsby. The plot was enjoyable (and a bit dramatic) but the themes it develops about the twenties and the character development are exceptional.
Another note: I agree 100% on the Austen book. I’ve tried to read both Mansfield Park and Pride and Prejudice, but they are unreadable garbage. There is nothing to them, and they are horribly dated. I would venture to say the same thing about the entire Austen cannon. She is the most overrated author after Dan Brown.
Good list.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Ugh… I always hated The Great Gatsby! A rubbish book!
Another one I might add to this list is “The Clan of the Cave Bear” (entire series, really; they get progressively worse and worse). Jean M. Auel had a great idea, and even did a bunch of research… and although the story is an interesting one, she litters it with romance scenes.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
I’m named after number 1
yey!!!
or not so yey after this list lol
February 10th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
sometimes great books aren’t actually good to read. When I was quite young I read The Lord of the Rings. I loved The Fellowship of the Ring, enjoyed the Two Towers but felt passages of it were starting to strain and was bored to tears by The Return of the King. But growing up It had a special place in my heart purely for the richness of the world Tolkein created. I was aware that it was flawed, but I loved it nonetheless.
In some ways One Hundred Years of Solitude was the same. As a flowing narrative it was hard to come to grips with but there were passages that I adored and when it comes to mind I think of it with fondness.
Whereas i’ll enjoy reading genre novels, like Elmore Leonards books, they’re entertaing but don’t stay in my memory in the same way that some of these more difficult novels have and thats what makes a book great.
Still I have to agree with White Noise, Don de lilo technically is a good writer, but kind of mind-numbing and for my money the most overrated book of all time is Ulysses.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
The Great Gatsby? WHenm I first saw that I was thinking of “Gadsby”, the novel that lacks the letter ‘e’.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
My fiance hated Wuthering Heights so much, that when they were told to write a reactionary paper to reading it, he wrote a three page treatise where he destroyed a number of the books in very entertaining ways. I, luckily, have avoided reading it.
I read Emma in middle school on my own, naively thinking that because it was classic, it must be good. I have never again made that mistake!
February 10th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I have to read all the books on this list before I can comment any further.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Also, if a most underated books list comes up, Ella Minnow Pea should be on it, short read, but a really good book.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Good list. I would have included the Scarlet Letter. Almost all High Schools require it for reading and it is predictable and utterly painful to read.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
I agree with CARD (#164). One Hundred Years of Solitude is very easy to read in spanish. The only “difficulty” is than some characters have similar names. For the rest, it’s simple and fun reading with great ending.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Shane – you created one of the most rockin’ LV lists of all time. Well done!
Enjoying the comments a lot.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I loved The Hobbit, but could never even finish The Return of the King. I can’t understand why they didn’t make the Hobbit movie first. It was the best of the four books.
As I read the list I found myself thinking “Thank You” to many of the titles. The Great Gadsby – not so great. The Davinci Code a fun read, but not classic literature. Wuthering Heights – I remember thinking that I must be missing something, or not getting it. Thank you. some of the others I haven’t read.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
…Y’know, come to think of it, I really think that some of the others have it right. Moby Dick should absolutely be on the list. I’d also put my weight behind War and Peace. Neither of them was anywhere near as wonderful as they’re often claimed to be.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
i definatly agree with the lord of the rings. atlas shrugged might be overrated, but it accomplishes its goal, which is to show extreme liberals and extreme conservatives. im not really sure if it was aimed to be a well written novel, like say ulyssess.
how about a 10 ten underrated novels?!?!
February 10th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
i wonder how many people who say books are over rated have read that book. main reason why they say twilights over rated is that its ‘big’ right now.
im usually one of those people but i grew up
February 10th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
i havent read all the comments, but good god, what about dickens?
“a tale of two cities” was the most ridiculous, awful piece of crap i have ever been forced to read. “great expectations” was only slightly better because the old lady bursts into flames.
and the “scarlet letter.” horrible.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
“but some of Stephen Kings’ books are overratted.”
I’d say the only overratted book was Graveyard Shift. [bass drum hi-hat]
February 10th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
I’m surprised Twilight isn’t on the list. Everyone thinks it’s so great when it really isn’t.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Whoa okay, just because Tolkien was detailed doesn’t mean his writing was flawed. I find all classics go on and on and on and on and on about details until you’re bored into a stupor (I’m looking at you, Great Expectations) and the plot of Lord of the Rings is amazing. Putting it on the list is solely an attempt to get people angry. If something is overrated, it means it’s not as good as everyone says, not that it’s popular.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Hey – in case some of you were unaware – you don’t have to be comment 200 to win – you just have to comment – the 200 just means that if we only got 199 comments I wouldn’t pick a winner. The winner will be chosen at random from the total list of comments
Great comments btw – I am really enjoying reading them.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
You should add 1,000 leagues under the sea, what an awful piece.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
I might get crucified for this, but I think “Brave New World” is revoltingly overrated. The beginning is great, but there’s no… follow-through with it. I guess it is genius in the sense that it drills into your head how annoying their society is though; I wanted to hang myself after the 164,535,345,639th mention of “soma”.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
264. MKO: please don’t mess with Chuck Palahniuk! i really think he’s an amazing writer, maybe some of his stories are not very good (like diary) but he goes beyond his stories, he uses them to say something, i don’t know if you get what i mean… the messages of his stories are amazing (besides guts, that was just gross).
i think he’s one of the best writers right now, he goes where nobody wants to go and doesn’t give a shit if what he writes is sometimes gross and tabu.
I’d actually say he’s very underrated, maybe is just because i love his books.
Art is so subjective!!! we’ll never get to an agreement…
twilight isn’t overrated, it’s a good story for little girls and teenagers, i doubt they have much of a clue of what a lame excuse for a writer Stephenie Meyer is, they just like it because Edward (robert pattinson) is supposed to be “hot”. Hopefully in some years it will be forgotten.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I had to read Atlas Shrugged, Confederacy of Dunces, and a few others for school. Man, they sucked! Well, that’s what Amazon.com is for.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I think I’d agree with all items on the list — but I’ll tell you, this is one that could stretch to fifty overnight! So I’m going to throw down five picks of my own (in no particular order):
Return of the Native, by Thomas Hardy
Death in Venice, by Thomas Mann
The Left Hand of Darkness, by Ursula LeGuin
Gravity’s Rainbow, by Thomas Pynchon
Fahrenheit 451, by Ray Bradbury
The Bradbury and the LeGuin picks are the result of a “science fiction” high school lit class that could have killed all love for the genre in the most rabid fan. Le Guin’s done much better stuff than the above title; the same cannot be said for Bradbury, whose entire ouevre can go on the bonfire for all of me. And if the fire starts to burn low, you can stoke it up again with L. Ron Hubbard’s entire catalogue, and (sorry Jamie) Ayn Rand’s too.
Don’t agree with the lambasting Ulysses took up there, but then I had a terrific Joyce instructor in college, and my dad was a literature professor and a Joyce scholar himself (and I suspect is gnashing his teeth in the Hereafter for my denigration of Hardy and Mann). Just my personal preferences, people ….
February 10th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
so glad great gatsby is in there. ive never enjoyed reading and i had to read the great gatsby and write essays on it in high school. it was awful.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
i also helped my cousin write some of an essay on the great gatsby when i was high. he deleted the part i wrote.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Nice list actually. I saw the da Vici Code movie and it was OK !
February 10th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
lord of the rings just has to many songs, hadnt heard of most of the rest
February 10th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
im definitely of a mind not for these books, although having read the davinci code i agree with the “masses” that the book is what it is; fiction. i am more of a robert jordanesque reader…steven donaldson as well…throw in terry brooks, and i have a soft spot for star trek novels
February 10th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
The only novel i’ve ever actually enjoyed reading and will read again is The Shining.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I actually really liked the Great Gatsby- the only people in my English class that didn’t were the nearly illiterate ones who spent more time sleeping than actually reading the book.
I agree with Tolkein’s books being on the list, though. It’s as if he’s writing in the style of an 18th century author…droaning on and on about nonsensical things that have nothing to do with the actual plot.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
The simple fact that so many commenters have said “LOTR was tortally over-rated – The Hobbit was the only readable volume/book by Tolkien” PROVES howow simple-minded people are.
LOTR was written in Saxonic Epic Cycle Form because that’s what Tolkien was a professor of.
The Hobbit was written for 9-YEAR-OLDS – which proves that most people – including the compositor – have the brain capacity and maturity level of a 9-year-old.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Urgh. The eyes of Dr. T. J. Eckleburg are the eyes of God! I just want to put you in a puffy pink cloud and push you around. That is all I can remember of the Great Gatsby from Junior English.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Well, I completely disagree with 100 years of solicitude being in this list. Perhaps, as some of you said before, it’s a matter of not reading it in its original language. I’ve lost the count of how many times I read it, I started when I was 13 and now that I’m nearly 28, still read it once or twice a year. Maybe reading it in english is like reading terry pratchett in spanish, half of the stuff is lost in translation.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
I am so glad to see One Hundred Years of Solitude. Gabriel Garcia Marquez is my favorite author, but I have never been able to get all the way through that book, although it doesn’t keep me from trying. I think his forte is definately the short story and shorter novels.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Birdy #321 – I’ve actually read War and Peace. It was for a History of Imperial Russia college class. The professor told us at the beginning of the semester to read 100 pages a week; that way, we’d be all done by the time we reached the Napoleonic era. It worked.
(STL Mo pats himself on the back for plowing through War and Peace.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
If I had a teacher who called “Emma” the most perfect book ever written, I would put him/her in a coma.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I rather enjoyed the Great Gatsby….
February 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Uncle Sam – didn’t stop a lot of it being piss boring. And I’m smarter than you.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I have to say, not many of these books have caught my eye in the past, but I read the Da Vinci code, and it was… well, I thought it was weak, and the film was just terrible, as it strayed away from the already flimsy plot and dragged on for two hours too long.
I tried reading LOTR, but after the first 50 pages, I lost track of which plot I was supposed to be following and got distracted by tracing and colouring in the map in the front. But that’s just me. Yeah. Cool.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Twilight should be on here as well. Two of my friends told me to read it, and the VERY DAY I went to get it out of the library, the movie had just been announced and EVERYONE had decided to jump on the bandwagon.
I wanted to jump on. Then everyone took the books out from under my feet, I slipped and fell in the mud. The bandwagon set off without me and I decided not to try to catch up. I prefer the Septimus Heap series anyway. (MOST UNDERRATED SERIES EVER!)
February 10th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
I’m rather surprised you didn’t include the Harry Potter novels. The hype behind them blows the mediocre writing way out of proportion. But then again they were aimed at little kiddiwinks.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Good work on the list. I’m dissapointed to see A Confederacy of Dunces, but I can understand how it may be overrated to some. Generally, I agree with the rest, although I would have included Catcher in the Rye.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I will be another to say it.. I liked the Davinci Code. Unlike Atlas Shrugged, it was a page-turner.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Bought the LOTR trilogy when the movies were first being released, but barely made it past the first few chapters of book one. Loathsomely boring at time, and clumsily written (though I did like The Hobbit, which I’d read before).
One of the most grating, unacceptable excuses for poor movie adaptations is when a movie falls flat on its face (or goes to shit in the last Act), and the fans defiantly stand by the films for being ‘true’ to the novels, warts and all. The weird ghosts bit at the end of the big battle in Return of the King was a real deus ex machina groaner. Are we supposed to accept it because it’s apparently the same as the novel? No, we aren’t. It was utter bollocks, and the cheapest escape clause I’ve ever seen in a film.
Likewise, fanboys are trying to combat the negative reviews of the nonsensical “Inkheart” by claiming that it follows the book perfectly, and that all the plot holes are stitched up in the sequel. Sorry, but that’s no excuse to make a terrible movie.
Some complain that LOTR was handicapped due to cramming the books into 3-hr film runtimes, but that’s rubbish. The two most recent Harry Potter movies were chopped up far more than the Rings films, and they stand on their own. I’ve never read the books, but I think there are parts of Goblet and Phoenix that far surpass the Rings. Don’t even get me started on weak-sauce “wizard” Gandalf.
February 10th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Man, I’m really hatin’ on Atlas Shrugged… I will stop now, because I didn’t even finish the book- I guess I shouldn’t judge a book only on the first 100 pages..
February 10th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Lord of the Rings is amazing, but a very very tedious read.
But I seriously disagree about Harry Potter. They may be children books, but they’re absolutely brilliant.
“The Hobbit was written for 9-YEAR-OLDS – which proves that most people – including the compositor – have the brain capacity and maturity level of a 9-year-old”
Just because someone found the Hobbit to be enjoyable and much more manageable as far as a light read goes, doesn’t mean they’re unintelligent or immature. Nobody likes that snotty attitude either.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I love Catcher In the Rye. I felt so bad for Holden and how his life got messed up after his brother died.
The Great Gatsby was so boring and it also lead me to that in real life everybody cheats on each other with no consequences.
The Scarlett Letter was as boring as hell. I totally agree with the guy who said that the book could have been rewritten in 40 pages.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
“Who’s John Galt”?
The rest of the list I can take or leave although I’ve read most of them–BUT “ATLAS SHRUGGED” ???–Surely you jest–Or maybe you’re just trying to see what the reaction would be? “Atlas Shrugged” is arguably the most powerful novel ever written. Maybe you have it mixed up with “For Whom The Bell Tolls”-Talk about “slow-moving”–
February 10th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
I’m surprised Twilight didn’t make it.
And I’m glad my favorites didn’t make the list.
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February 10th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
i had to read Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre in ninth grade and hated both of them. i eventually just used sparknotes or cliffnotes for them.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
The Great Gatsby, a book so boring I had to read it Three times. I still can’t remember most of it, and even if I could for even one second, remember anything but the ending, I’d have to drop it into my mind trash can again.
And my woman, sweet and sexy as she is. Has a map of middle earth on the wall. I Hate LOTR! The Hobbit Rocks!, that little nephew(?, I care that little about the books) of his pisses me off and any man who dreams of Arwen, need to grow a set and look at a real woman.
I give my thanks only for the influence that this series had over the RPG industry. Without it I may never have enjoyed CyberPunk.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
I love lists like this, so many good comments. I am so surprises that so many people don’t like LOTR I was expecting a huge stink to develop at it being on the list. I just want to say that I find it really horrible that most people stop reading books just because they are boring for the first few pages. I am appalled, I always try to read all they way through a book even if it is boring. I figure that if a book is well heralded enough there should be a reason for me to read and gain something from it. Even if it is not apparent, there is always something to learn from reading, regardless of a book. It is true that the only thing you can learn from some books is how not to write, but that is not the point of this list. As many have pointed out this is a list of overrated novels not bad ones. All of these deserve a read, they are not bad just not as great as claimed.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I haven’t read anything on this list besides Lord of the Rings.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
I have to say that One Hunred Years Of Solitude is one of the best novels ever, because is a mix of realism and magic realism so pure that makes it so good, besides is written by Garcia Marquez, winner of Nobel Price….
Besides this being on the list I have to say I Agree in the most of the list.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
I actually enjoyed Great Gatsby. Didn’t see what the big hoopla was but I thought it was a good read. The book I did NOT enjoy and couldn’t figure out what the big deal was about is Catcher in the Rye (J.D. Salinger). I thought it was so boring the first time I read it through, and I still thought it was boring the second time around when I figured I’d give it another shot.
I’m also not a big fan of Shakespeare but that is probably because I don’t have the patience to figure out what he’s talking about in laymen’s terms.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Great Gatsby and Atlas Shrugged are putrid. Big miss on Moby Dick though. I think Confederacy of Dunces is pretty damn funny, and 100 Years of Solitude isn’t all that hard to follow, people just get thrown off by the names.
February 10th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Yep, was totally looking for Atlas Shrugged to be #1. Have to admit, on a list of this type, it would be MY #1. (Sorry, JFrater)
February 10th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Thank you for this list – two reasons
1)it reminds me how I was forced to read books I didn’t want to in high school and college
2)I now remember why I shifted to non-fiction only
(cliché – truth truly is stranger than fiction you are force fed)
February 10th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Re: the Delillo books, no basis for why the books are overrated is given other than saying, basically, that some professors and others love them and others don’t. Quite frankly this could be said about virtually every book ever written. Next time try backing it up with reasons….
February 10th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Thanks for putting Emma up there. Jane Austen is constantly lauded for her amazing novels and basically gets avalanches of praise for what I personally consider – Emma included – some of the most boring, pointless, haughty, snobbish drivel to ever hit the pages of a published piece of literature.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
In my new project to read old classics, I started with Wuthering Heights, and I’m glad to see it on this list. I can see were this book was considered groundbreaking at the time (if only because there isn’t a single likable character in the book), it’s really not very well done. The scholarly preface at the beginning of my copy even says as much.
I also have to agree with LotR. It was an entertaining read, but the first major series of fantasy novels isn’t necessarily the best. I did prefer The Hobbit, though I found it just as ridden with deus ex machina (I don’t know how to make a plural of that phrase).
February 10th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
The “explanations” you gave for why these books are overrated don’t even come close to real analyses. Next time you’re going to criticize well written and meaningful novels, be sure to use the text, not underdeveloped insults, like it’s “not… ground breaking.” A novel doesn’t have to be overwhelmingly creative to be great.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Oooohhhh! Who would’ve thought that literature was more controversial than Jack the Ripper, skydiving or pornography? Bucslim and duckie – you’d better head over to the pornography list and continue your stories there.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
I agree with lotr.
Most of the book consisted of singing, eating and walking. Contrary to popular belief thats not entirely entertaining. But I still consider it to be a great book just by the sheer imagination of Jr Tolkien.
You forgot twilight though! I love the books, but its a guilty pleasure. I know they are dull, slow moving, a little misogynistic and extremely over-rated!
February 10th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I can’t tell you how glad I was to see The Great Gasby on this list, it is my second most hated book of all time, second only to Great Expectations. I thought The Great Gatsby was a boring story with even more boring characters. I so don’t get why it was considered a classic.
Seeing Lord of the Rings was good too, I liked Lord of the Rings, but I never liked the writing or the roundabout manner in which the story is told, I also thought it was condescending too, Tolkien knows all the history and every inch of Middle Earth, but he talks to you like you’re suppose to know it too. I have argued that this book was great but overrated for years.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Fantastic List! I agreed all the way with it, which is a real rarity!
I would add this though: Any Charles Dickens. I know his stories were drawn out because they were serialized and he got paid by the word, but even counting for that he never seems to actually get anywhere!
February 10th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
I had to read “Catcher in the Rye” my college freshman year right before XMas break. I hated it. Extremely over-overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
First off to the comment of someone telling people to stop writing lists about opinions. This whole site is a list of opinions. You could take any list on this site and someone will come up with a list that is different.
On Twilight-Well if Steven King says its bad than well gosh I must agree with him since he is the end all be all of writing. I read Twilight and enjoyed. Would I say it is the best book I had ever written, well no. I find it interesting enough that I’d pick up the rest of the series and read it.
As far as Twilight and Harry Potter are concern and why the did not make the list. I perceive this list as a list of what are considered classics. While Twilight and Harry Potter are wildly popular at the moment, they are not what I’d consider a classic.
I very much agreed with your comments on LOTR. I saw all three movies and thought they were phenomenal. From my experience the book is always (well 99%) better. So I decided to read the series and was expecting something amazing. I was disappointed. I made it halfway through The Two Towers before I decided I couldn’t take it anymore. I can not stand writers that add so much extra detail or wander off in different directions. I thought your assessment was dead on.
I also agree with whomever said that Stephen King was overrated. There are a couple books that I like but for the most part I don’t see why people are gaga over his books.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
I do think that “The Scarlet Letter” should be added to this list
February 10th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Well, I must say that Tolkien’s work is boring to those who don’t understand what is going on or have short attention spans. This being said; it is not only a great piece of literature, but it is fantastically crafted and written for that matter. Great Gatsby, not actually that bad.
Harry Potter, Twilight, Eragon and The Bible are books that I would have to have put on this list, not only because a majority of them are badly written (excluding the bible as it was not really intended as a page turner) but they are widely praised and not nearly criticized enough.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
The Great Gatsby is definatley NOT overratted, that is one of my favorite books, ever, and that makes me sad that it’s on here.
But i have to agree with LOTR, as much i love them, they do get blown out of proportion sometimes
February 10th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Not a novel, but just something I must rally against: “Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs” by Chuck Klosterman. Chances are, if you are an scenester/emo/hipster/indie/skinny jean wearer/ironic beard/glasses/fake bohemian/”counter”culture under the age of 28, you fucking loved this because you heard it was cool. Irony for the teen angst crowd on par with “The Great Gatsby” and “Catcher in the Rye”; captivating when your 15, crap later.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
XC- Two things tell me you need to read more. First, the word is “definitely,” and second, Gatsby is your favorite. Haha, seriously a nice list though, I agree with every one of these I’ve read. Thanks for putting LOTR on there, that should be #1 in my opinion but I understand putting the English-department lit up top.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
I question the logic of forcing high school students–especially today’s high school students–to read Wuthering Heights. (As part of a college level Victorian literature course, fine, but I don’t see the point of putting kids through this.)
I read the book on my own, mostly because I had seen and enjoyed the 1939 film version — http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0032145/ — and read that it only covered half of the book. (I wanted to see what was omitted.)
While I did enjoy the book, I found that certain passages were ponderous, mostly because of the archaic writing style, and mandated concentration to get a clear image of exactly what was going on. But I also found some of the scenes, such as the one describing Heathcliff’s visit to Linton’s grave “haunting,” to say the least:
“I got the sexton, who was digging Linton’s grave, to remove the earth off her (Cathy’s) coffin lid, and I opened it. I thought, once, I would have stayed there, when I saw her face again—it is hers yet—he had hard work to stir me; but he said it would change, if the air blew on it, and so I struck one side of the coffin loose, and covered it up … and I bribed the sexton to pull it away, when I’m laid there, and slide mine out too.”
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I do have to agree that I found “Lord of the Rings” to be overrated. I don’t think I’m the only one who felt that it was a ripoff of the “Ring Cycle.”
For those who like Victorian literature, as well as fantasy fiction, I’d recommend “Lillith,” by George MacDonald, a book most people have never heard of.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith_(novel)
(Historic background on the character — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith)
February 10th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
someone has to point this out- just because you didn’t enjoy a book (hey we all like different things, food, music, as well) or found it difficult to read doesn’t necessarily mean it’s poorly written. are there famous books that have sold many copies and been poorly written? of course! but it’s not necessarily bad just because it’s hard for YOU to read.
“it was impossible for me to read” -was it because the characters were one dimensional or the sentence structure impenetrable? or was it…something else?
reading is a skill, and not everyone is equally talented in this area, just as everyone is not a star athlete. it’s possible that a book written above (or way below!) the reader’s personal skill level will seem “terrible” to them.
harry potter is very interesting in this regard. i worked in a book store when the books were first coming out, and j.k. rowling did a signing and speaking event with our store (we had to put it in a local college’s sports facility, no way could all those wanting to attend have fit into our small store!)
she said that her original concept was for the books to come out annually and for the reading level of each to be appropriate for readers the same age as harry’s character himself was, so that kids could literally grow up with him as they read the series. now the books didn’t end up being released on that schedule, and i don’t know if they’ve been seriously evaluated to see it their “reading level” matches harry’s (who is portrayed as bright for his age anyway), but the concept it brilliant! the first book begins when harry is turning eleven, so it ought to be readable by any eleven-year-old with a normal reading skill set -this means it probably shouldn’t be compared to a novel designed for mature adults (who can presumably read better).
all publications and books have different level of “readability” or “reading level” and there are many different tests and formulas that have been set up to analyze a given sample. but even without running these tests it’s a safe bet that “people” magazine is purposefully written at a lower reading level than “the economist” and a book designed to be accessible to an eleven year old is different than a book aimed at college graduates.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
TWILIGHT! TWILIGHT! TWILIGHT! TWILIGHT! That sickening, immature, disgusting, vampire sex fantasy has erked its way into the pathetic minds of tomorrow’s generation! ITS AN ABOMINATION! T
February 10th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Number 3 on the list absolutely should not even be on the list (The Great Gatsby). This is an American Classic, and is underrated in my opinion. Plus, you provided no factual evidence as to why it is overrated. I read this book last year in High School, and it was one of the best books i read in school. I did not “groan” in any way reading this book. I am shocked to even see this book on the list.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
I completely agree on the Great Gatsby. It has NO plot until the end when there is like five pages of action.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
i’ve read the first three for my high school curriculum, and i have to agree that none of them are any good.
i haven’t read atlas shrugged, but the fountainhead is one of my favorite books. is atlas of the same writing quality?
February 10th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
I always have 3 books going at any one time. This is a habit I fell into at the age of 18, and 4 decades later it remains a constant in my life. 2 of those books are always non-fiction, something I can learn from, usually sciences, maths, history, biography, medicine. The 3rd book can be fiction, something with more enjoyment than pure education, something like Dianne Ackerman’s books or Joyce or Milton or one that my daughter recommended, The Secret Life of a Geisha, or wonderful little known books like Einstein’s Dreams, and Motherless Brooklyn. These books help take me into other worlds, other dimensions, other ways of being.
I am stretching my mind, my “soul”, I am trying to bring my entertainment into the educational realm. And it works. I enjoy both my educational reading and my entertainment reading for the same reason; they enlarge me.
That is what reading is meant to do. If it doesn’t enlarge you, it has failed.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I’m not gonna lie..I’ve only heard of 4 of these, and I only partially read The Great Gatsby. I also never had any interest in reading The Davinci Code.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
388. lo: someone has to point this out- just because you didn’t enjoy a book (hey we all like different things, food, music, as well) or found it difficult to read doesn’t necessarily mean it’s poorly written. are there famous books that have sold many copies and been poorly written? of course! but it’s not necessarily bad just because it’s hard for YOU to read…
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lo: actually, I did point that out, but more subtly; 306. segue,”I have read Ulysses by James Joyce all the way through. It’s wonderful. If you can’t get past the first paragraph, that says more about you than it says about Joyce.”
Perhaps too subtle? I think we said the same thing, just different words.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
hey a couple of those are classics and will forever remain, do you know whats overrated, the twilight books
February 10th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
segue- sorry i missed it! i did skim through the comments a bit
February 10th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
For the ones who said “Atlas Shrugged” was awful or putrid or whatever,I’ll say this: I doubt you’ve ever read the book. In fact I would bet money on it. In fact I doubt if you ever got past “Dick and Jane and Watch Spot Run”
February 10th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
398. lo: No worries. You do realize you are one of us.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
I loved the Great Gatsby! I’ve read it several times…
I hated 1984 though. That definitely makes my personal list of overrated novels.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
399: Sorry, I did read it, and it did suck.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
It took me like, 8 tries to get through Fahrenheit 451. Good God almighty I hate that book.
But I had to conquer it.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
What about Jane Eyre? The whole book is basically Jane calling herself ugly and unladylike and then saying that every other woman is stupid and/or mean.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Or anything by Dickens? Just because your characters have a bunch of retarded traits, it doesn’t mean that they’re interesting.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Or Shakespeare? Sure, he was probably pretty good for his time, but nowadays it’s complete crap. Though maybe you aren’t including plays?
February 10th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
I read that someone said that they remember lines from 1984… I think that adages become popular through hearing them often. I bet a lot of people who know what the “big brother” concept don’t actually know where it actually originated.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
And smithstar4: You’re being a real asshole. Just because others don’t like Rand’s reactionary bullshit it doesn’t mean that they’re stupid. Don’t be a dick.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
sorry, one too many actuallys… actually, actually is my word of the day. (not really.)
February 10th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I couldn’t agree more with The Great Gatsby being on here. I had to read it for school only about a month ago (and thank God I’m done with it.) Normally, I don’t have a problem with the books the school picks out, but this book is just… unremarkable. Romanticized, dramatic, prolonged, and just overall irrelevant to life.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
And all the people who hated 1984, you do realize it wasn’t really completed. Orwell died before he wrote a final draft. Its power comes from its potential. There were some pretty amazing things in there.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
the bible
February 10th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
HELL NO!!!… TWILIGHT should be in the list…. LOTR is the best, it is the basis of almost every fantasy games and movies these days. It has given another form of culture per say. It is a revolutionary work. A very strong background and rich history makes the story alive and interesting… This list is well opinionated.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
And are people seriously calling Harry Potter overrated?
I guess they have a point, Hop on Pop is totally overrated too.
They’re kids books! They can’t possibly go on this list; I do personally think that Harry Potter was very well written, but that’s not why it’s popular, it’s because of the exciting plot.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
I agree with every book on here, even the ones I like (The Great Gatsby and Wuthering Heights).
February 10th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
JOGIFF–Well,I imagine you would be an expert on assholes and dicks too.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
414. jogiff-
i also think that -bearing in mind that they are designed for readers in the age 10-14 group- the harry potter books ARE very well written.
in fact steven king (who’s come up in these comments as both good and bad) is a very talented short-story writer (and who wrote “On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft” about the art of good writing itself, not just the horror best sellers) just wrote an opinion piece where he destroyed the feeble attempts at “writing” that make up the “twilight” books and contrasted them to the markedly GOOD writing found in the harry potter series.
also, as i said at #389, j.k. rowling’s conscious decision to write books that make children WANT to read something AND have the skills to do it at the same time is highly laudable!
February 10th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
413: The list maker said yes, LOTR is the basis for all fantasy, but it is written like crap.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Did anyone here read “Tropic Of Cancer” by Miller–Did anyone here understand it? I waded thru it many years ago but I didn’t get it.Other than I guess he was going insane.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
man, it really bums me out that my idea of good novels kinda fall into some of these categories.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
It may have been long and a bit confusing, but Catch-22, in my opinion, is in no way overrated. I can’t think of another book that’s made me laugh like that.
Then again, I never really liked Confederacy of Dunces, though I can see why some love it.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
#11: “A Tale of two Cities” by Charles Dickens
February 10th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
I’m surprised “Catcher in the Rye” isn’t on this list. Just because some high-profile murderers like to read and carry around that book doesn’t mean it’s a great novel!
February 10th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Very good list. Read most of these books and disliked ‘em. Two thumbs up!
February 10th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
this list has been up what, around 15 hours now? even factoring in the contest, it makes me very happy people had this much emotion (the good and the bad) about books! i’m a little surprised by it.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
OMG! I saw the title and only clicked on to make sure The Great Gatsby was on it. Thank you!! And Amen!!
February 10th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
358: The ghosts bit wasn’t in the book. I have no idea why they did the film like that, in the book, Aragorn and some others have travelled round the southern coasts gathering soldiers and routing the enemy there. It’s them that then turn up in ships up the river.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
I am not the brightest cherry on the tree, I don’t speak or read Spanish, but even I understood “One Hundred Years of Solitude”.
I agree with LOTR. And Harry Potter is over rated by retarded adults who are reading books designed to get young people to enjoy reading. They are readable books – nothing more of note.
I personally do not enjoy books that are too paint by numbers – once you’ve read one, you’ve read them all! (ie Marian Keyes and Diana Gabaldon are just a couple of authors guilty of doing this).
February 10th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Twilight doesn’t belong on this list simply because this is a list of quite classic fiction, and Twilight is anything but classic, and it is certianly not studied in school.
That being said, I’m am quite a fan of Twilight, and I was a fan BEFORE the hype. Yes, I was, you don’t have to believe me. I read the book more than three years ago, and I waited patiently for each to come out. I enjoy the books very much, but I am alittle annoyed at the absolute fanatic fans who go aroud screaming about it. I thought the books were very well written for books for young teens. Why are you all offended by Twilight? It’s not like it’s considered “adult fiction”
on that note, I am a a HUGE Harry Potter Fan, i think the first few books were written down for kids, but the last couple had action and suspense. I love them, and they got many children to read. Why would you all call a book “overrated” that let children back into the wonderful world of literature, despite the fact that you think it is not of value? Who cares? They’re reading instead of watching T.V or playnig video games!
February 10th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
I don’t like these opinion lists. Every reader on this site could produce their own version of a ‘Ten books I didn’t think were that good’ list.
Fact based lists are more interesting.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Why haryy potter isn’t included?
I have a copy of the great gatsby 2 years ago..and it just disappeared, i never ever have a chance to open it..lol
February 10th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
I have never even heard of Emma before. But i have heard of Lord of the Rings, the movies were nice don’t know about the novel.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Jane Eyre or Madame Bovary could both be put in place of Emma. The three seem to be based around the same type of boring tragedy-to-happiness love story that only a neglected teenage girl would enjoy reading. Despite the fact that Madame Bovary has some interesting aspects to it that exceed the typical love story’s boundries, altogether it was probably the lamest novel I have read.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Explain to me how the ‘facts’ of a fiction book can be wrong? It’s fiction, meaning its made up.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
a weird thought on LOTR- it was always meant to be a single work -not three books, but early publishers knew this was not just a hard sell, but a crazy one. you can buy it in that form now if you wish.
i had and treasure a beautiful edition of “the hobbit” when i was young (still have it), but didn’t get around to reading LOTR ’till the first movie was being advertised. i read it in the “massive paperback” form of the 3 books “together, at last!” and have to say i really enjoyed all the random detail (and the appendices with genealogies and song-mythologies, linguistics, the publishing history, and all the rest) it made it much more like really jumping into another world, i world i was hungry to know about.
i almost feel that it falls into a category different than just “the novel.” could it have been greatly streamlined for clarity and retained all basic plot points? yes. would this have made the “experience of another world” one can get from reading it as intense? unknown.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
i just want the free listverse stuff
February 10th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
I’ve always pretty much been able to read anything…but I just couldn’t bring myself to finish reading Emma. I think I got as far as the second page before I put down the book and I haven’t picked it up since…
February 10th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
I definitely agree with the da vinci code, i read that after all the hype and it was not worth the time.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I’m just happy that people still read books, even if some guy on the Internet thinks they’re overrated.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
I gotta agree that all of the books on the list are at least overrated to a large degree… and some are downright sucky.
But some of them I thought were ok or better — just not anywhere near as good as the hype they have received. So, a good list.
My additions:
The Sword of Shannarra and all its sequels
A Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur’s Court
Communion
Solaris
The Foundation Trilogy and all its sequels
Lord Foul’s Bane and all its sequels
The Number of the Beast and I Will fear No Evil (by my favorite author, btw)
The Stand (by my second-favorite author)
The Scarlet Letter
Gone With the Wind
Lost Horizon
The Good Earth
February 10th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
I’m surprised Twilight and Harry Potter didn’t make the list.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
How did you create a list like this without The Catcher in the Rye? A book considered to be such a ground-breaking American classic and at once the most banned book from school libraries and curricula that is also absolute crap? It’s the definition of overrated! It’s absolutely terrible! The narrator/protagonist is an absolute tool, full of opninions, lacking in knowledge or maturity who, breaking one of the major rules of fiction, is the SAME on the last page as he was on the first! Nothing happens! It’s 214 pages of a loser bitching about the rest of the world. It’s terrible. It really should be on the list.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Everyone should know the following truth about the LOTR.
It is a ripoff of THE MAGIC RING, a fantasy trilogy written by Motte-Fouque. It predates LOTR by nearly 80 years and it is based on the Ring Cycle material.
I’m sorry, but the quality that some here say merits Tolkien a place off of this list–IMAGINATION–I say he does not possess in suffient original quantaties. LOTR definitely deserves a home on this list, perhaps even much futher up towards the top three.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
The DaVinci Code should have been on number one. This is the one novel in the list that has no merit whatsoever. I could discuss every other entry to death, but I wouldn’t bother with the DaVinci Code (or any other Dan Brown book for that matter).
February 10th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Why are you surprised Twilight and Harry Potter didn’t make the list? Neither are considered great literary works.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Portriat of the Artist as a Young Man…I read the first two pages. went beack read them again. read the first page again, then threw it at a wall.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
@JB
are you seriously telling me that Tolkien stole Middle Earth, including the languages that are there, the geography, the history and the immense culture. Sure he might have used a similar story but in no way does he have no imagination. There has never been a universe as vast and deep as the one that Tolkien created for Middle Earth it is just astounding. I guess you are unimaginative because you haven’t created a language, or an entire universe. Do some research before you start to bash one of the most influential writers of the 20th Century. Even if his writing is considered overrated by some. But that is his writing no sane person would ever claim that Tolkien lacked imagination.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
I agree that there are over-rated books, but some of the ones on here, shouldn’t be here.
Also it’s deus ex machina.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
I agreed with everything except Gatsby.
I just read it this year for my English class and really liked it.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
I have to read The Great Gatsby for year 12 English next term… glad to see I have a lot to look forward to. =/
February 10th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
442. JB- i’d never heard of Motte-Fouque’s “the magic ring” until your post, i will put it on my “books to read” list
that said, a quick internet search reveals a few Tolkien scholars seeing it as “a major influence” on his works. the impression i got was that this work (the magic ring) explored themes also found in Tolkien’s work, but is more along the lines of arthurian legend/classical courtly romance. -let’s just say it: themes that can be seen as “universal” are thusly be found in many works of fiction that come to be seen as “classics.” the universality of the theme is what MAKES it an ageless classic!
it’s been often said every great story under the sun has been told, people will be people until the end of humanity. so the greatest stories we can tell are those which resonate upon those immortal human themes and experiences, that is the thing which makes them “great” “classic” or “immortal.” just because a universal theme in literature has been expressed before does not detract from another author expressing it again in a different form (assuming the new story has some imagery and stylistic merit of its own). that all said, i’ll try to read this “magic ring” and get back to you
(even though my same google search pulled up quite a few scholarly opinions that found it hopelessly “dated” within a generation of the author’s time….)
February 10th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
100 years of solitude is my favorite novel. Its plot is not complex at all. Its simply what happens to a family/town in the course of a hundred years. The book deals with magical realism, which is a genre that mixes reality with fantasy to bring a certain pleasure of how the ordinary can seem extraordinary and the extraordinary seem kinda childish and stupid. Hundreds if not thousands of masters and doctors degrees have had this novel as it center piece. The beauty of this novel is that its a great read and there is so much going on that you can reread it many times and you will be amazed by how many other details you can find. This is why there are so many cliffnotes about, there not to understand the plot but all the other subtle themes that are presented. History of economic times, change because of inovations, traditional vs. new, war, and add like 100 other themes that you can explore IF you like them because they are all explored. Its plot is not complicated, i cant believe you said that, to the point that you have to read cliffnotes to understand it? That is a complete hyperbole. Did you even read it? Maybe it was the translation. I read it in spanish. I recommend this book to anyone. Besides, 100 years of solitude I think you list is quite good, especially the Da Vinci Code.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Oh sh*t…I have to read Emma for a class this semester… I HATE JANE AUSTEN. And thanks for the heads-up.
Once upon a time, I liked Ayn Rand, (only one of her novels is truly good, and it isnt Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead. It’s We the Living), but now I do recognize that it is truly 1000 pages of pretty much…crap. There really isnt much to it beyond her “radical” economic philosophy. 1957…ZOMG COMMUNISTS!!! But really, only a minority really works that hard anyway. I wouldnt really call her a philosopher either.. Her “Ayn Rand Institute”, aka The Church of Ayn Rand/”Objectivism” (is it really objective when you call her 1000 page book “the greatest novel ever!”?) really brought her and her “philosophy” down quickly, I think.
I was actually going to read A Confederacy of Dunces, but thanks for warning me of it beforehand. I think I’ll pass.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Avoided LOTR like the PLAGUE til 4 years ago due to rampaging hordes of uber fans. Finally HAD to read it as a deal to let my 6 year old watch the movies after reading each book. Family read each night, family movie night. It wasn’t bad at all. But I did not turn into an uber fan.
Fountainhead blew my mind. Never read Atlas Shrugged. Resisting uber fandom.
Emma I like fine (can’t wait to see Gwyneth Paltrow in it; gonna rerent Clueless). Mansfield Park (the one with Fanny Price?) made me want to slap her. Northanger Abbey–wicked funny.
100 Years of Solitude blew my mind. I “let go” of keeping track of Buendias and Aurelios and let it flow. The ending whirled me away.
Gatsby didn’t leave a big impression. The rest I didn’t read. Some on purpose.
Read Harry Potter full series with child. Enjoyed heck out of first one and they get deeper. In Goblet of Fire when Cedric’s ghost ask Harry to take his body back to his parents, it breaks me up every time. Sentimental mom. Even the scoffing, English-major husband was impressed with the writing around the funeral scene in Half Blood Prince. Don’t be prejudiced and don’t compare it with what you think is great literature. Funnily many people compare it unfavorably with LOTR. And the circle is complete.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
362. smithstar4 – Are you serious? Have you ever read The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky? I’m an atheist and that’s my favorite book of all time! Thats how powerful Dosty is. Ayn Rand can go eat Nieztche’s spunk.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
I hadn’t heard of a couple of the titles, and consider that I’ve dodged some bullets there. Atlas Shrugged and LOTR I am in total agreement, as well as The Great Gatsby.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Lord of the Rings, but no Twilight?
I actually liked LOTR…
February 10th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Bookmobile #388 – A Ring Cycle Ripoff?? Are you terminally brain-dead? Try reading: a) ALL of Tolkien’s Middle Earth writings – LOTR and The Hobbit are merely the more famous. He provides an entire history and multiple races AND languages complete with their own written language and dialects.
Wagner drew HIS inspiration from old Nordic Sagas – as did Tolkien. Tolkien BTW: disliked Opera and despised Wagner because he corrupted the stories so much.
At least Tolkien acknowledged his inspiration as being Nordic/Saxon – Wagner initially tried to pass his off as original! Remenmber: Tolkien was also a Cambridge Professor of Anglo-Saxon: Language, Culture, History etc.
Whatever – Tolkien vastly expanded his ‘world’ to make it his own.
Deadlast Johnny #418: You said “413: The list maker said yes, LOTR is the basis for all fantasy, but it is written like crap.”
. . . . Just like the substance between your ears!
Deadlast Johnny #418 – “Your comment” …… “
February 10th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
#235. Burgerbuddy
Ack! Dune..
I forgot to add Dune to ‘What should have been on this list..’
I agree with ya Burgerbuddy. The Dune series has some great ideas in it, but you have to wade through a lot of boring stuff to get to them. I hope it makes it on to the “Another 10 Overrated Novels” list.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
I am adding to my 450 comment. After reading all the comments 13 of them say that 100 years of solitude is one of the if not they’re best read of their lives. Two of them agree that although its of some dificulty to read because of the translation/cultural barrier its still a excellent novel and only one said that it was extremely difficult to read.
The reason this book is still alive is because people recomment it alot because its great not because its taught at college. I dare you to find someone who read it and thought it sucked. I dare you because I know you didnt.
I lost count but almost 30-50 comments want the scarlett letter to be added and I agree 100%. Its to sad and overly complicated, slow, chauvanistic and extremely pointless. I didnt learn anything reading that novel except a sure way of torturing someone. Tolkien is a bit overrated but not enough to make this list.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
I agree 100% with Jorgeuhs. You are my new hero man!
February 10th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
This is a very provocative list. Although several of the titles are ones I’ve never come across, I have to admit that I agree with several presented here:
#5 is an entry I couldn’t agree with more. While it’s great to fantasize about elaborate conspiracy theories (and who’s to say that they couldn’t exist?), Dan Brown clearly goes overboard with this one. I would recommend readers to look for Umberto Eco’s “Focault’s Pendulum” — considered a “thinking-man’s ‘Da Vinci Code.’ Look at the Wikipedia article about it (don’t read the plot spoiler!!)…it’s a fascinating read, very intricate, beautifully written (both in it’s native Italian and the Weaver English translation), and has much more substance than the nonsense spewed out by Dan Brown.
#3. While I do think “The Great Gatsby” is a good book, I admit that it’s not the most well-written or exciting of novels.
#2. I DESPISE “Wuthering Heights.” I just absolutely REFUSED to read it in High School it just bored me to tears. I still managed to write an A+ paper on the book without having ever read more than 20 pages of it. I, for one, just don’t appreciate much of anything by the Bronte sisters…Jane Eyre has it’s moments, but even that is so stiff as to make me feel dead inside.
#1. Please refer to preceeding statements.
For my own 2 cents: I believe “Little Women” and “Catcher in the Rye” should be put on this list too. Now, I’ll admit, “Catcher” is not a terrible book, and I would recommend it to anyone as a one-time read, but quite frankly I found the literary style to be so dry, sophomoric, and often inane. I really did not “enjoy” reading it, although the story itself moved me. I have similar experiences with anything written by Steinbeck and Hemmingway…their literary styles aggravate me to no end!! The stories are often so interesting and meaningful, but it’s the way they write that distresses me…the language is too simplistic, not versatile enough, often redundant use of adjectives (I am a firm believer that the same adjective should never appear more than once on a page if at all possible).
I realize this is all subjective and merely my personal opinions, but those would be my contributions to this list had I written it.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Adding to comment 450 and 458. Why don’t you add other “complicated” books to your list! Like Don Quijote! “Oh its long and the old guy does some weird and pointless stuff”. Or Animal Farm “Oh, i don’t understand communism, and why animals!”. Or maybe Hitchhikers “I dont understand space and comedy”.
You should never speak of something that you havent even read. The thoery of relativity for example is something that people are scared of but its actually not that hard to understand once you explore it. This book, maybe from your point of view, is like a maze of literary complexity that only a literary genius can survive. This book is taught at high school in many school and in 7th-9th grade in schools in latin america. All that i know of read it, understand it and at least like it. I have never heard a comment of the complexity of the plot only of the ritchness of the subplots and themes that the novel exploits. It saddens me alot that some of the avid readers of Listverse.com will take your comments to heart and not read this excellent novel.
This is one of the, in my opinion greatest, works of spanish literature since Don Quijote 400 years ago.
Gabriel Garcia Marquez won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1982 almost exclusively because of this novel. The rationale for the prize is as follows. “for his novels and short stories, in which the fantastic and the realistic are combined in a richly composed world of imagination, reflecting a continent’s life and conflicts”. This prize is giving by Europeans and they love the novel. Maybe football (soccer) is not the only trait latinamericans and europeans have in common…..
February 11th, 2009 at 12:01 am
TUESDAYS WITH MAURRY. God that book sucked.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:10 am
MHogan: LOL! I hate inspirational books. They make you feel good as if you’ve just eaten McDonalds because its so tasty and then 10 minutes later youre in the bathroom for the rest of the day.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:10 am
Anyone who doesn’t like Wuthering Heights obviously has not been in love.
And I find it funny that the most praised aspect of LOTR is the plot, as it’s based almost entirely on norse mythology. Nothing new.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:11 am
I read the LOTR books for the first time when I was in college. One of my roommates was a LOTR maniac, and she got me to watch the movies, which I loved.
I’ll admit that I initially made fun of Tolkien’s meandering writing style (partly just to make my roommate mad), but I was eventually sucked in by the plot and by the incredible intricacy of the world he created.
Granted, Tolkien had his shortcomings, but LOTR was innovative, influential, and creative enough that I’m not sure I agree with its inclusion on this list.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:14 am
I have to say, I think I liked “Emma” the least out of all Jane Austen’s works, and I read almost all of them.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:16 am
LoTR in the list is unwarranted and IMHO a cheap stunt to solicit comments.
There are tons of best sellers that can be called overrated before LoTR. Harry Potter series, any/best works of John Grisham, Stephen King, Ken Follet, Frederick Forsyth will make their apperance before LoTR.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:48 am
I agree with the inclusion of Lord of the Rings. I like it as a book, and I’ve enjoyed some of Tolkien’s other work, but frankly, I don’t think its as good as it’s made out to be…
I just cant wait to see the Most Underrated books List… I hope there’s some Iain Banks/Iain M Banks on there.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:19 am
Thanks to Jorgehus, I will be picking up a copy of “100 years of solitude”. It sounds like a good read, and I have been avoiding it. Thanks again.
Great list, got a lot of people thinking…well, some of them, anyway.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:24 am
yeah over rated is such an opinion term. LOTR could be my favorite book and still be considered over rated. Also “good literature” is also a term that changes with time. I must admit tho, I have read about 8 of these, and I do find da vinci code mediocre, LOTR good and the rest really dull!!!
February 11th, 2009 at 1:26 am
Ha, I was going to ask about Twilight too before I thought of it. That book can barely be referred to as a book, it’s more like a compilation of words. Plus, as others have stated; it’s not a classic, and it’ll be forgotten in a matter of months.
It really wouldn’t have been worthy of being on this list.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:29 am
Ah! I just recently had to read Wuthering Heights for a class and I was startled by how much I hated it. Thank you, goodness gracious, what a terrible novel it was.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:35 am
Adding to comments 450 458 and 461. This list was made for only one purpose. To create controversy. What you criticize of the DaVinci Code is just what you did will writting this list. I imagined you just went and did a search on the most selling novels of all time then wikipiad some of them and the ones that had something you added them to the list. I reach this conclusion just because of the addition of 100 years of solitude and in much less part with LOTR. LOTR just because its a bit overrated but not a novel that “Ten “classic” books loved by millions – which are sorely overrated and should be ignored”, should be ignored is such a strong thing to say about a book which even if a bit overrated is great book. You added it for the controversy.
Now with 100 years of solitude. The only way you cant understand the plot because of its “complexity” is because you have no knowledge or/and no sense of empathy towards the past and how towns and families develop after a set time frame. Then the beauty of this novel is not because it is complex its the total contrary. I remenber the first line of the novel it says something like this: “The day Coronel Aureliano Buen Dia was going go get shot he remenbered the first time he saw ice”. And the whole novel is like this. Simple or/and common things like ice and love and trains and death and music and family are viewed like they are strange and powerful .things which we ought to watch more carefully because they are more than met the eye and more complex things like movies, war, almost the magical movement of blood are viewed like ordinary things not worth our attention. Anyone that read my comment read 100 years of solitude, you will love it
February 11th, 2009 at 2:04 am
waaah Twilight was so addictive for me! haha i think it’s the whole age thing. As in it was written for tween’s. Not that I am one. But anyways! Dan Brown’s Angels and Demon’s was much much better than DaVinci Code. I guess he got carried away with the whole conspiracy story line.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:11 am
yeah emma is shit were reading it at school right now
February 11th, 2009 at 2:21 am
Having worked in a bookshop for several years (but not anymore), I can agree with a few of them;
Da Vinci Code – I haven’t had the ‘pleasure’ of reading this, but have read one of his others, before the hype started, and it was so badly written I didn’t bother when the Code came out. It seemed that people where I live (Southern England) either came in to buy Da Vinci Code and hadn’t read a book before (and probably never will again) or came in and complained about how rubbish it was.
Harry Potter – I’m torn on this. I read the first four and figured I didn’t need to read the rest, as they all follow the same pattern. However, anything that gets the kids reading is fine by me. I just wish they moved on from Potter to other novels of greater value, perhaps like the BFG or something (I love the BFG, by the way).
Catcher in the Rye – Perhaps I read this when I was too old as well, but it was just another book, IMHO.
The Lovely Bones – I’m sure that many people love this book, but I just couldn’t get into it. My then manager told me it was one of the greatest books of our time. Really? And now Peter ‘LOTR’ Jackson is making a movie of it, it’ll get a whole new load of fans.
Sure there are more, but that’ll do for now.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:32 am
philfairbairn- In regards to Harry Potter, I think the 5th book is where it starts picking up a bit. You get more into the background of things.
What is the BFG, BTW?
February 11th, 2009 at 2:52 am
pretty good list, and i even like some of these…alot! Glad to see that sellout of a book Davinci Code on here, Brown’s other books are way better anyway. And Anything by Jane Austen is crap in my “book” imho.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:03 am
*Begins reading LotRs*
*gets bored of reading a very descriptive 10 chapters on how big the meadow is*
And I read The Great Gatsby in HS but can’t remember what it was about. =\
February 11th, 2009 at 3:33 am
Wow, Jamie- Offer a free t-shirt and look what happens- almost 500 comments!
February 11th, 2009 at 3:36 am
Nicosia: obviously someone gave away my dark secret: that I hide cocaine in the Listverse t-shirt hems!
February 11th, 2009 at 3:40 am
Gee, this shirt smells great! (snoooooooort)
February 11th, 2009 at 3:43 am
Nicosia: tell me about it – why do you think I bought 1,000?
February 11th, 2009 at 3:44 am
I agree on the LotR trilogy, since the Hobbit was written alot better. Da vinci code is just overhyped. not much to it.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:46 am
Jamie: Are you drunk listing again?
February 11th, 2009 at 3:47 am
Crimanon: not when I posted this list – promise. As for right now – I ain’t sayin’ nothin’!
February 11th, 2009 at 3:49 am
Because people will do anything for a free t-shirt! Go to any bar on the coast during Spring Break if you don’t believe me
February 11th, 2009 at 3:49 am
JayNu: It is my duty to keep your secret.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:50 am
I just noticed you have onesies for the babies! What do you hide in those?
February 11th, 2009 at 3:51 am
Nicosia: I may well consider it once I finish the book – who knows what inspiration I may find in the US! And other stuff.
Crimanon: Good. You can stay then
February 11th, 2009 at 3:53 am
Nicosia: Isn’t is obvious? Smack! Har har.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:58 am
That’ll keep ‘em quiet!
February 11th, 2009 at 4:11 am
#480 Downhighway61
Damn it. I figured that if I stopped reading after the fourth it would suddenly be worth it in the fifth. Maybe I’ll actually read the rest. Chances are my eldest will want them read to her in the next couple of years.
BFG is the Big Friendly Giant, by Roald Dahl (he of the Twits, the Witches, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Matilda, etc). One of my favourite books when I was young, about a girl who gets ‘kidnapped’ by a giant, and he turns out to be the only friendly one out of ten. The rest go around the world eating children (which is nice), and so they work together to try and stop them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roald_Dahl &
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_BFG
PS. As it turns out, I haven’t read any of the books on the list! I feel so ashamed…
February 11th, 2009 at 4:13 am
I can forgive DeLillo being on the list because Emma is number one. I had to read it for school and it was the biggest waste of time and paper. I wonder how many trees would still be alive if it was never published…
I’m not an English professor, I didn’t even study it in university (it was actually my boyfriends, he did study English) but I really like the way DeLillo writes.
I don’t know if she’s been mentioned in any of the almost 500 previous comments but Cecilia Ahern’s P.S I Love You or one of her other equally terrible scribblings.
February 11th, 2009 at 5:05 am
I can’t believe that 100 Years of Solitude is on this list! I think it is one of the most brilliantly written books. I definitely agree with the inclusion of Da Vinci Code and Atlas Shrugged, though. And The Great Gatsby is good but not that good. I also think that Catcher in the Rye and The Alchemist should have been included.
February 11th, 2009 at 5:26 am
Oh, dear!This list contains three of my most favourite novels ever-100 years of Solitude, LOTR and Wuthering heights. And I do think I know a thing or two about literature.
I agree about the rest though.
February 11th, 2009 at 5:54 am
Ugh, Wuthering Heights, the price I had to pay for reading at a ‘high level’ in school. That’s when they start forcing the classics on you. Utter crap.
Of the others I’ve only read Lord of the Rings & the Da Vinci Code and I thought they were both rubbish too.
February 11th, 2009 at 5:58 am
Yes, I have to agree with Wuthering Heights. I read it a few years ago mainly due to having heard it described as being one of “The Classics”.
At the end of it I sat back and thought “what a load of crap that was”. I found every single character to be at best uninteresting at at times downright hateful.
But then I was wondering if there was something wrong with me since all those academic sorts revered it so much.
So thanks for letting me know that I am not alone in thinking it was a big pile of drivel! YAY!!!!
February 11th, 2009 at 6:08 am
I like Lord of The Rings and The Da Vinci Code, but I agree with every other choice on the list.
February 11th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Good List, really agree with Rings trilogy and Atlas. I didn’t even like the stories, let alone the writing.
It is funny people are saying “Why isn’t Twilight (or Harry Potter) on this list?”
They aren’t on the list because they are not overrated. At no point have the Harry Potter or Twilight books been “rated” that highly. Same with DaVinci Code. I don’t remember it being all that highly rated. Just a BIG seller. Crap book compared with Angels & Demons though.
They are popular, yes quite so, but they are not rated all that great.
I love Potter, and think Twilight is a load of 5th grade drivel. But they are “popular” fiction, not classics or highly rated novels like Atlas Shrugged.
PS, I disagree with Emma. Very good book.
February 11th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Harry Potter WAS ridiculously overrated, to the point that they announced the release date for one of them on News at Ten in England. A national news programme announcing the release date for a book? Its never happened before and probably won’t again. Thats how silly it was here.
February 11th, 2009 at 7:19 am
I am happy to see that I Am America (And So Can You) is not being contested here.
February 11th, 2009 at 7:33 am
I have only read 5 out of the 10 in question here. I must say though i am delighted to see Emma on the list. That book almost killed me in grad school…100yrs as well… felt like it took me about that long to finish it! cannot agree with the Lord of the Rings though. My upbringing will not allow me. Can i ask where Glamorama is (it’s presence on another list here astounded me) and American Psycho as well for that matter. Boring beyond belief! And anyhting by the esteemed Philip Roth… overrated.
February 11th, 2009 at 7:34 am
philfairbairn- Ah, but a lot of people would want to know that!
Probably got them viewers, and really, isn’t news stuff people want to know?
February 11th, 2009 at 7:45 am
SO glad Harry Potter wasn’t up there. Those books are so addicting.
February 11th, 2009 at 8:05 am
I love the lists about literature. Though I have never read any of the books on this list. However I do read the comments and Jack11, HELP. How could you not sympathize with a character like the one in “Native Son” by Richard Wright? You must have lived a very cushy life not to have a heart for that man. Don’t read “Light in August” by Faulkner because you won’t feel for poor Joe Christmas either. I’m on a Faulkner kick and I know, I know it is difficult reading because of his stream of conciousness technique. But, isn’t there always a but? But I would like to see a list of characters from novels, like Faulner’s Quentin Compson from “The Sound and the Fury”, “Absolam! Absolam!”, and short story, “The Evening Sun”. No one can realize the heat, sun, slant of the light, and sweetness of honeysuckle that we have here in North Mississippi and Memphis like Faulkner. No one can learn to drink the sweet nectar from a honeysuckle flower without hurting the bloom anywhere else in the world. How did we ever manage without AC? And how was Faulkner able to get the African-American language of that time down to a reality and not be offensive? Anyway, if you haven’t read any pick up a Faulkner. A great place to start is The “Sound and the Fury”, which is a line from McBeth that goes, “It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
February 11th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Good list. Atlas Shrugged definately belongs on it. I like Ayn Rand but this novel is sort of the “Heaven’s Gate” of books. By that I mean, both told great stories but for cryin’ out loud,…could we pick up the pace a little? I didn’t think Da Vince Code was poorly written, quite the contrary, I couldn’t put it down. I’m no fan of organized religions but even an eight year old can see thru it’s anti-christian bigotry and misandric themes. Good choice.
February 11th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Wow…never thought this many people would be so interested in reading…and the experts say reading is on the decline! (maybe it’s the free (cocaine) t-shirt)
I posted before…but even though LOTR is swamped with boring scenes…I admit I really enjoyed it! At least it’s at number 10 and not number one!
February 11th, 2009 at 8:57 am
I haven’t read all these, but here are my thoughts on the ones
I have.
#10 – The Lord of the Rings: It may be ponderous in places (lots of tramping and camping!), but it’s still one of the best stories ever told.
#6 – One Hundred Years of Solitude: Not bad, but not that good, either. I’m not a fan of magical realism. If you are, then you might enjoy it.
#5 – The DaVinci Code: I like Dan Brown’s books. They’re fun, even if they’re totally wacked. For a better “thriller” experience, check out Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child. Their books, both separate and collaborative, are WAY better.
#3 – The Great Gatsby: BOOOOORRRRIIIINNNGGG!!!!!
One book that definitely should be on this list is The Unbearable Lightness of Being, by Milan Kundera. Highly overrated. The best character in the book is the dog. I found it whiny, pretentious, boring, and well, unbearable.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:02 am
#22. Wildlifeman -
Read this: http://www.pbs.org/marktwain/learnmore/writings_fenimore.html
Mark Twain absolutely BLASTED James Fenimore Cooper. It actually made me want to read The Deerslayer just to laugh at it.
He hated Jane Austen too.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:11 am
I may not (and do not) agree with all the comments, but I am heartened to see how many people are still reading and interested in books.
I would like to add The Brothers Karamazov to this list. One of the very few books I have given up on out of sheer boredom (I made it 3/4 of the way!). Nowhere near as good as Crime and Punishment or The Idiot.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:38 am
I haven’t read a single book in the list and i suppose i’m glad haha.
Recently read the “classic” Catcher in the Rye and agree with those who posted above in it being overrated.
Perhaps i would have enjoyed it more when i was younger but i doubt i’d have been in love with it either.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:56 am
MISANTHROPE
Well,I guess you would know about eating somebody’s spunk.
Yes,I read “The Brothers Karamazov” years ago.There’s not many of the so-called classics I haven’t read.”The Naked And The Dead” being my favorite.But what does any of that have to do with you being an atheist? And who cares? And what does Nieztche have to do with Ayn Rand? He was a screwed up philosopher. Ayn Rand was not a philosopher. She was a great writer who didn’t believe in big government taking care of you from the cradle to the grave. She believed that as little govenment as possible caused men and women to be more inovative,creative and productive.
By the way,I’m a Christian.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:04 am
I disagree with LOTR, Wuthering Heights, The Great Gatsby and the Da Vinci Code lol. LOTR is not that difficult to read, or at least it didn’t feel drawn out when I read it; maybe I just enjoy prose. For some reason, I always loved Wuthering Heights and the Great Gatsby *shrugs* TO each his or her own I guess. And when you say overrated, I assume you mean that they are widely accredited as being creative masterpieces. I feel that the only reason the Da Vinci Code is overrated in any sense is because people felt like making this huge deal over a fictional book.
In any case, I agree with Atlas Shrugged being on this list! I hated the book…
And to the Twilight-should-be-on-here comments, I don’t think it could ever be overrated. Those who find it amazing are either 14 year olds or girls like me (definitely not 14 lol) who know that it’s written horribly but love it anyway. You’ll never get enough people saying that it’s a creative masterpiece or well-written.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:20 am
I have a question: No one on here liked “Atlas Shrugged” with the exception of me.And the descriptions are “I hated It”–”Rubbish”-”Putrid”-etc.-And that’s fine.My question is:Why would anyone wade all the way thru a long novel they hate–Boy I sure wouldn’t.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:30 am
smithstar4, I think JFrater liked Atlas Shrugged. He even said so in the description. I thoroughly enjoyed it as well. I thought the story was fascinating, and as a vehicle for transmitting her philosophy it was an impressive feat. During the period when I was reading it, my mind was buzzing incessantly. Personally, I dislike Libertarianism from a political and economic standpoint, but I absorbed tremendous lessons about self-determination and responsibility.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:58 am
I think Confederacy of Dunces should be immediately removed along with white noise. In their place should be some Palanuik and some steven king
February 11th, 2009 at 11:01 am
I disagree with a hundred years of solitude. I happen to wonder upon the novel by accident and loved it so much that I not only reread it but bought my own copy. I do agree with The Lord of the Ring Trilogy. It just so long and complex! It just one of those books that a person just completely loves or just sees as a alright series.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:44 am
“Bookmobile #388 – A Ring Cycle Ripoff?? Are you terminally brain-dead? Try reading: a) ALL of Tolkien’s Middle Earth writings – LOTR and The Hobbit are merely the more famous. He provides an entire history and multiple races AND languages complete with their own written language and dialects.
Wagner drew HIS inspiration from old Nordic Sagas – as did Tolkien. Tolkien BTW: disliked Opera and despised Wagner because he corrupted the stories so much.”
Not terminally brain-dead, (redundancy), but terminal, (unfortunately).
In any event, thanks for the clarification. Borrowing and expanding upon previous works and ideas, of course, has gone on since stories were first passed from one generation to another, by spoken word. One wonder’s what LOTR will inspire, say, in 100 years.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Someone needs to add Fahrenheit 451 on here. Its not even worth the paper its written on.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
jogiff (392) So you say that the best play writer of all times was good at his time but now is just crap? I don’t want to be rude, but have you any idea about theatre? His plays are amazingly well written and the characters are perfectly formed.
As to the person who called Harry Potter readers “adults who try to make kids read, someone not worth ot sth” (too bored to scroll back), I have been reading literature since I was 7 and trust me I know my books. Harry Potter series are probably the best kids’ books I have ever read.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
So glad to see Lord of the Rings up there. Now, the movies were thoroughly entertaining and I have no doubt that Tolkien is a fantasy world genius, but his writing is just so impossible to deal with. He just goes on and on and on and on about random things that mean basically nothing to the story!
Also, gj for Jane Austen. Blech.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Everyone should know the following truth about the LOTR.
It is a ripoff of THE MAGIC RING, a fantasy trilogy written by Motte-Fouque. It predates LOTR by nearly 80 years and it is based on the Ring Cycle material. Most scholars agree that Tolkien used his work as his main source. Fouque “was an excellent storyteller who either created or made very early use of important motifs and themes in supernatural fiction. He can be considered the chief founder of the school of neo-medieval romance that extends through George MacDonald, William Morris, and E. R. Eddison to Tolkien and the moderns. He was also among the first to turn to Old Norse sagas for subject matter, which he mixed with German folklore, classical learning, strange personal symbolism, and allegories of good and evil. THE MAGIC RING seems to be the ultimate source for the idea behind Wagner’s Ring Cycle and Tolkien’s work” – Sullivan (ed), The Penguin Encyclopedia of Horror and the Supernatural, p. 155. As you can see Tolkien’s work was not as original and groundbreaking as everyone claims it to be. He simply expanded someone elses work with a few of his languages. This is why nearly every literati and critic keeps Ronald off of their lists of great fiction–because it is VERY overrated.
I’m sorry, but the quality that some here say merits Tolkien a place off of this list–IMAGINATION–I say he does not possess in suffient original quantaties. Creating a few new languages and characters does not merit great imagination–you fanatics have only been brainwashed my all of the hype and media.
To wit, LOTR definitely deserves a home on this list, perhaps even much futher up towards the top three.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I would put some of the long Steinbeck on there. His shorter stories are bearable, but Grapes of Wrath was the most drawn on , dry book I have ever read. There are quotes from it which I agree with and enjoy, but they are few and far between. The book could have been 100 pages and gotten the same, if not more impact.
I attempted reading 100 years of Solitude a few years ago and I was turned off by how many characters have the same name. That was my biggest problem, and I realize that it reflected the culture at the time, but it did make me put down the book and I have yet to pick it up agian.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Thank you! The Great Gatsby is lame. I never understood why it was supposed to be so amazing. I hated every page of it.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
I have not read any of these books. Some I have not even heard of.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
good list! but the lists lately have been meh…
February 11th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Uncle Sam: “. . . . Just like the substance between your ears!”
Honestly, a little harsh. I just simply paraphrasing what the list writer had said. I’m not sure if you’re overly butthurt because LOTR was on the list, but.. please chill out.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
about “some steinbeck”- “east of eden” of one of my all-time favorite books, yet “grapes of wrath” just didn’t interest me at all. i only made it one chapter into “wrath” before moving on to something else. should i give it another chance?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
-is one of-
February 11th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Suggest you add the “Alexandria Quartet” by Lawrence Durrell and “Vanity Fair” by Thackeray; and that you delete “Confederacy of Dunces” post-haste!!!!!! Good God, what a wonderful book — funny, touching, tragic in its way. If the author had lived, it would still be considered a classic, but there would be a whole body of work in which to contextualize it.
You assertion that the hero must be “likable” is at odds with the last century and a half of literature at the very least.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Uh oh, I just bought one of these books on Amazon, because I’d heard lots of good things about it. I hope it lives up to the hype…
February 11th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
“The real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer and Stephenie Meyer [Twilight] can’t write worth a darn,” he said. “She’s not very good.” – Stephen King
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b82354_smackdown_of_week_stephen_king_vs.html
Personally I think it’s sad that people would even bring up Twilight on this list, because that means they can’t differentiate classic novels from fads. Again, it’s like comparing some “tween” fad like the Jonas Brothers to Led Zeppelin, you just can’t compare them unless you have an abundance of ignorance.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Let’s not forget Silas Marner by George Eliot.
Overrated in general:
Saul Bellow, Kurt Vonnegut, John Updike.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I agree with you on every single book on this list, even though I absolutely love Lord of the Rings. Odd thing is I actually did not like The Hobbit because I felt the writing wasn’t like Tolkien. He’s just suppose to write like that. In fact the Silmarillion, which is even worse style-wise, is my favourite. If I read another author who wrote like that I would not make it past the first page.
I’m not so sure about the likable hero though. The biggest example that springs to mind is Harry Potter who is an annoying, dim-witted and hormonal little prat, but I just love those books to bits!
I guess it just goes to show how very personal reading is. But with books like the ones on the list, it has moved over into a sort of mass-mentality.
Another book that SHOULD have been on your list without doubt: “The Catcher in the Rye”. Why do people force students to read a book that is simply one long whine, most of which is just repeating the word “phony”?
February 11th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
boo
February 11th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Hated reading Wuthering Heights in high school.
Great Gatsby was dec.
As for Davinci Code, Dan Brown is a decent author, I guess, but I liked the prequel, Angels and Demons, MUCH more, as there was much more action and craziness.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
I hated Lord of the Rings. I just couldn’t get into it. I loved Wuthering Heights for some reason.
I also think the Twilight series should be on here. I’m not trying to diss Stephenie Meyer or anything, because I think she is a decent writer. But the Twilight series were overrated, and should be put on the list.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Bella, I do think that the Twilight series is overrated, but it is not one of the most overrated books of all time.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Lord of the flies should be on this list. Read it for school in seventh grade. Worst book ever.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Thank you for putting The Great Gatsby. I will never see what’s so great about that book.
And as someone who was forced to wade through “Libra,” I wholeheartedly agree about Don Delillo as well
February 11th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
If you have trouble sleeping at night read anything by Eudora Welty or even better,pick uo a copy of Jimmy Carter’s “Christmas In Plains”-You’ll be gone in no time.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
My sixth form (second to last year of high school?!) English teacher made us read “I Heard the Owl Call My Name” because he said it was the worst book ever written. It was pretty bad.
February 11th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Can you really call them “loved by millions” if they’re also only kept alive by teachers or whatever?
Besides, my English teacher in the eleventh grade genuinely DID think “The Great Gatsby” was brilliant; he wasn’t particularly pretentious or sheeplike either.
February 11th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
I liked LOTR- the “many pages of details that are completely superfluous” kind of establish a mythos around the whole series, as if the world is alive outside of the viewpoint of the reader.
In my opinion, the most overrated book/series is the Wheel of Time series. The author was really passionate about the first two books, then kind of gave up. There’s 11 books currently in the series, each about 800 pages in length.
The story is predictable and repetitive and the dialogue is grating- the author had no passion in the story. After the fifth book, the series could be renamed “Just Make Sure the Check Clears.”
February 11th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
The hundred years of solitude was a great book although a little hard to follow in some parts I really enjoyed rading it. I completly agree on the Da Vinchi Code all of Dan Browns books are crap
February 11th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
I totally agree on Emma and LOTR, but Wuthering Heights and A Confederacy of Dunces are two of my favorite books. I can’t believe Twilight isn’t on this list. Not only is it poorly written and redundant, but the last paragraph of each chapter more or less summarizes the entire chapter for you. I would also add Vanity Fair to this list because none of the characters are likeable and there are entire chapters where nothing happens. And also because it’s 800 pages long.
February 11th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
I was with you…even when I saw 100 Years of Solitude, I could get over it. I loved this book, but could concede that someone else may not. But then…to my HORROR…I came to Confederacy of Dunces. How could you? Have you been to New Orleans?
I’m so glad others are sticking up for this gem of a novel. Hurry…defy reading silly lists. Instead, run out and read this delighful, funny, once in a lifetime kind of book. There is nothing else out there like it.
February 11th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
One Hundred Years of Solitude “overrated”? I found it brilliant and tremendously inventive, with a great writing style. Now Silas Marner or some other piece of dreck like that–that I’d agree with.
February 11th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Where is “Gravity’s Rainbow”? One of the most overrated books of all time, but that’s IMHO. I love LOTR, but you are quite right about the prose. It can be quite (unintentionally) funny at times, however. Anything by Ayn Rand always seemed to me a thinly disguised attempt to convert us all to her silly objectivist philosophy. OK, silly was also IMHO…
What I think some folks are overlooking with works that are dated now (the comment about Shakespeare springs to mind)-these books were written in different times, in different cultures and express their ideas in ways that are not as approachable now. That does not dismiss their beauty or importance to their comtemporaries, or folks now that are more familiar with those historical periods or cultures.
February 11th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Still people are saying that Harry potter and Twilight should be on here? Did u even READ the list?
February 11th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
lmfao you need to put twilight as number 1 xDD those books were great until EVERYONE became obsessed beyond obsessed with it! now it just kinda sucks…haha
February 11th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
@Ashley R
thank you! I loved twilight, and i loved it three years before anyone has ever heard of it! then everyone became obsessed and now i’m just annoyed at all the rabid fans! Please people get a grip!
But still twilight and harry potter should not be on here because they are hardly considered “literature”
February 11th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Ashley I completely agree with you, but lke Ty said above, it isn’t one of the most overrated novels of all time.
February 11th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
*like
February 11th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
LOTR: the depth of description is one of the most beautiful things about these books – if these “superfluous” details don’t matter to you, you’ve missed a large part of the point.
February 11th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Onevoice: Depth of description is one thing. Binging description like a desperate bulimic is another thing.*
*point exaggerated for easier comprehension, so don’t get your underwear of choice in a knot
February 11th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
people should stop putting “twilight” in the same breath as “harry potter.”
the first is a poorly written, abstinence-only morality-infused take on the “tween” soap-opera of life, the second is a series of excellently written, engaging novels designed to be in the 10-14 year old reading skill level range. to the person (much) earlier who mentioned roald dahl – i REALLY love his work, but j.k. rowling’s books are of at LEAST the same caliber of writing quality. “twilight” doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as either!
oh, and none of the above feature in the actual list
February 11th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
The Great Gatsby is the book without and ‘e’s , right? The Author got killed due to the strain of writing that book..
February 11th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
The Lord of the Rings, eh? Well, I’ve only been able to watch through the movies once, let alone the books… Guess they just aren’t my kind of novels.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
For people saying Twilight and Harry Potter don’t belong on this list, please read the introduction.
“These could be wildly popular books that were best sellers, but just weren’t that good”
I think it’s safe to say that Harry Potter and Twilight are wildly popular best sellers, making them applicable to this list.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
no that’s gadsby by earnest vincent wright. the great gatsby has an ‘e’ in the title, and one of the characters name is jordan baker
February 11th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
The only reason why i groaned about having to read the Great Gatsby in school was because i didn’t want to do the worksheets
it’s a beautiful tale of the American Dream and a real heart ripper.
The Lord of the rings movies were kinda boring too. No offese but I quote Clerks two on this one “It was a bunch of people walking”
February 11th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
I would add “The Awakening” to this list as well. I fell asleep after 10 pages, which I found ironic.
I recently had to read Huck Finn for school, and I think the only reason it has stayed relevant for so long is because of the controversy. The meandering plot could barely hold my attention and the ending seemed too convenient to me, which totally turned me off.
I’m going to disagree with all the posts suggesting The Scarlet Letter. After you get past the terrible first chapter, it’s easier to read. I thought it was very compelling psychologically, but maybe it’s just me.
I reread Wuthering Heights every year because there’s always something new that I get out of reading it. I will never get tired of that book. A book that puts such vivid images in your memory deserves to be a classic.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
I was so hoping Emma would be on here! I was listening to it on CD and I got about halfway through before I gave up. The last straw was a five-minute conversation about how the character thought there were two steps but there’s only one, so watch out and don’t trip because there’s only one step! My LORD, shut up! I am so glad I didn’t torture myself any longer with that drivel.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
550. Oasis-
okay, if we’re going to go there:
i can’t and have no desire to defend the “twilight” books, but for what it’s meant to be -a series of engaging and interesting well-written novels designed to be readable by people with the reading skill-set averaging 10-14 years of age- “harry potter” is NOT over-rated.
it’s one of the best children’s series written in english of all time. it is deserving of the mega-sales and fan-base it’s acquired because it (meaning the whole series) is well written with good character development, an engaging story line, and a clean, flowing, age-appropriate writing style. it is single-handedly responsible for getting a new generation interested in the idea of reading books at all.
so, for what it was always meant to be (great books for kids) harry potter is not in anyway “overrated.”
February 11th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
How is Harry Potter over-rated?? Of course it’s not on the list because it is OFFICIALLY the best young teens book of ALL-TIME. Harry Potter was the reason that the NYT bestseller list split into childrens and adults, the first 3 HP books held the top 3 spots in the original list for over a year! Harry Potter is for 10-14 year olds. Also how is Twilight NOT on that list?? It is honestly the worst writing I have EVER seen. There was not a single page in the whole book without a dash ‘-’. It was horrible writing that ruined what otherwise might have even passed as a book. But I totally agree with the Da Vinci Code. The game on X-box was brilliant and I thought I might read the book. BIG mistake.
February 12th, 2009 at 12:28 am
I suppose I can concede a bit and agree that the first Harry Potter was on par to the hype – it was refreshingly different from the usual tweeny drivel (i.e. Twilight). However, the ‘overrated’ claim applies to the subsequent HP novels. Same static characters, same ‘oh no Harry’s in trouble’, same-deus-ex-machina-to-get-Harry-out-of-trouble. I think she may have changed it up in later novels simply because the buzz that it was too repetitive and not from a creative desire to follow her literary musings.
I would definite disagree with it being on par with Dahl books. I have a long standing attachment to Matilda, BFG and the others because they are well written, have great story progression and are fun to read. The HP novels, I read them once and never felt the need to reread.
February 12th, 2009 at 12:55 am
557. gabi319-
but your need (or non-need) to go back to the HP books doesn’t, in-and-of-itself, make them poorly crafted.
i ADORE dahl -to the point that i’ve tried to collect all his books! (by the way, have you read his books/short stories for adults, such as “my uncle oswald” or “switch bitch” for starters? they are devilishly delicious!)- but i don’t think that on a purely word-craft level his “james and the giant peach” or “charlie and the chocolate factory” is superior to “harry potter.”
i personally love them all, no one said you need to do the same. perhaps you just weren’t personally drawn to the “harry potter universe.” that doesn’t mean the books weren’t well-written, maybe they just weren’t your cup of tea
February 12th, 2009 at 1:10 am
Anna Karenina should of been added. Reading it was torture. It’s now propping up my computer screen.
February 12th, 2009 at 2:12 am
I believe all the books on this list are going to be best sellers once again, because bad publicity sells. Ask Brittany.
February 12th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Oooh! I so agree with #1! The Lord of the Rings trilogy was good but The Hobbit was far more brilliant! One of my favourite books! And everyone who seems to disagree with me about it, are people who have seen the movies, but not read the books or who have read only the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
February 12th, 2009 at 3:21 am
While we can all pick the list to bits based on our personal tastes (twilight, HP etc) I have some difficulty with your inclusion of 100 Years. Not only because it was the first GGM novel I ever read (following strange Pilgrims- a great collection of short fiction) but because you state as one of your reasons for including it;
*For a book that is almost a lock to be on any “100 best books ever” list, it is amazingly unreadable if you need to actually understand what’s going on*
Yet you do not include Ulysses by Joyce which is invariably in the top 3 of any list of top Literature despite being possibly the hardest read in the English language. Nobody I personally know has ever finished more than three chapters. I didn’t make it past two.
Others I would consider worthy of inclusion
Dune (onya burgerbuddy)
Stranger In a Strange Land
Wheel Of Time Series
Song Of Ice And Fire
Every MAN Booker winner
Cheers
Lee
February 12th, 2009 at 6:25 am
I totally agree with the da vinci code, it really wasn’t that good at all
February 12th, 2009 at 7:24 am
I have several issues with this list.
Passage to India – This is one of my favourite books. It is INCREDIBLY rich and complex and funny and sad. The “wooden caricatures” criticism is not quite right – upon closer inspection it’s quite clear that Forster is satirically railing against stereotypes, making fun of everybody and himself in the process (while also opining very maturely that judgement and simplification is THE fundamental human activity – which you and I and all of us are currently engaged in). I enjoyed it not for its race relations, but for its subtle humour and philosophical implications. And the incredible writing. It’s not necessarily a page-turner, but it offers up a perfectly balanced microcosm. I could write several essays on the topic (no, wait, I already have)
One Hundred Years of Solitude – My (incompetent and condescending) literature teacher saw that I had a copy; I had just finished it. “Did it take you one hundred years of solitude to finish that har har har” “No, I read it in a few days and stayed up all last night finishing it” “Oh.”
No academic rants here – I LOVED THIS BOOK. Just because you couldn’t get through it doesn’t make it bad…
Confederacy of Dunces – I read this a few years ago and don’t remember it clearly, so I won’t say much. But I thought Ignatius Riley was one of the most descipable and intriguing people I have ever met. Brilliant colourful characterisation, with innumerable lol-moments.
The Great Gatsby – Oh god, I don’t know where to start. So textured and works on almost infinite levels. Labelling it a soap opera quite misses the layers of irony and sadness embedded in the plot.
And by the way, not all teenage year old girls read exclusively Twilight. Unfortunately, I may be in the minority…
February 12th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Who created this list? I never heard of a Confederacy of Dunces, who claims it’s a classic? I agree that the DaVinci code is over rated but Atlas Shrugged? Wuthering Heights? Lord of the Rings?I don’t think so. Atlas Shrugged held me spellbound. Wuthering Heights is a terrific story and lends insight into an earlier period of time. Lord of the Rings, in addition to being a great story, having exciting, novel characters, and creating a new universe, has an immense amount of wisdom.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:57 am
The Da Vinci Code is overrated. Let’s just say that Dan Brown has a good publicist and if it weren’t for him/her then we wouldn’t even tried reading the book..
One Hundred Years of Solitude, disbelievingly, i kinda liked this book. This book was forced to us because our teacher wants us to make a book review over it. And I knew that it would be one of those boring books. However, the book turned out to be magnificently written and even if there were times I could not understand, i still couldn’t let go of the book. The book should be read twice or more before really understanding it..
February 12th, 2009 at 8:41 am
The only book that can rival Atlas Shrugged as a turgid philosophical discourse disguised as a point-counterpoint rantfest is Moby-Dick. Am I alone in thinking both these books would have been fine as adventure or fantasy yarns contra the intervention of archetypal talking heads?
February 12th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Good list but why am I not seeing Joseph Conrad Heart of Darkness?
February 12th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Harry Potter is not on this list because its not trying to be a literary icon, in knows that its just an intriguing kids book. I also feel that The Da Vinci code also doesn’t pretend to be something it isn’t, even if that wasn’t Dan Brown’s view, but its an engaging read none the less.
My vote is for the Old Man and the Sea as an overrated read. No offense to Hemingway, its a great story and his writing is concise, but it just dose not warrant the praise. Faulkner upon accepting the Nobel prize actually chided that Hemingway never used a word that the reader had to look up. His other books, in my mind are more deserving.
And i second, who ever said the Scarlet Letter, Hawthorne is just far to flourished in his style for most people to stand.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:10 am
“One Hundred Years of Solitude” may be unreadable in english because the difference between latine and english thinking pattern. While the first is about circle, the other is almost linear. I read this book in the original spanish edition and understood perfectly.
I don’t think Emma is overrated. The plot is not the most important aspect in any Jane Austen’s novel, but the very real characters and relationships between then are the really awesome elements in her writing.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Hemingway gets too much credit for developing modern lit. He stripped it to the bones, yes, but by doing so he masked his inability to write an “intellectual” novel and persuaded everyone that mediocre was the new complex. He is, by far, the single most overrated male writer-and chauvinist-of the past century. Besides Ayn Rand. She counts as a male, right?
February 12th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Awesome List!! You had me jumping for joy by the time i got to The Great Gatsby! I will agree with Andre that 100 Years is much better in Spanish, and probably should not have been translated at all. ($$$$) Three I would add : A Seperate Peace, To Kill A Mockingbird, and Catcher In The Rye.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:55 am
*Separate*
February 12th, 2009 at 10:00 am
I´m so sorry I got to late for the discussion on one of my favorite subjects, I´ll try to read all the comments in the upcoming days, since the list seems rather weak.
Meanwhile I´m glad this list was not compiled by any of the intelligent and thorough contributors that I so delightfully read.
“100 Years of Solitude” overrated??? and because it is “hard to understand”???
tsk,tsk (nods head in embarrassment and disappointment)
Dear God, were you born in Mcdonalds Shane Dayton?
February 12th, 2009 at 10:45 am
“Atlas Shrugged” is probbly the top novel off all time. Had the author’s philosophy been followed,this country would not be in the shithole it is today.
February 12th, 2009 at 11:51 am
If “Gone With the Wind” is not at the top of the list the entire list is bogus. It’s more like “Passing Wind.”
February 12th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Smithstar4, WTF are you talking about? We did follow her philosophy and look where it got us. I assume you are one of the rightwing imbeciles who thinks FDR caused the Great Depression.
February 12th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
I havent read any of those books (thank God) but i have read a few of what i consider to be overrated…
The Portrait of Dorian Gray- while the story itself is good, the old timey language sucks, and makes it much harder to enjoy… half of those words aren’t even used anymore!!!!
The Catcher in the Rye- BORING!!! i didnt understand what all the hoopla was about…i thought it was just a really lame story about a really lame kid.
ok, i’ll wait to be massacred now.
February 12th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
If you had a list of depressing books it would have to include Jude the Obscure by Thomas Hardy. Wrist slitting stuff.
February 12th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Has jamie picked a winner yet?
I thought of another book that I feel is overrated, and that’s Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns. It wasn’t a book i particularly enjoyed very much, i don’t know what it was about it. Also I agree with anyone who mentioned The Alchemist. Also the Scarlet Letter, the Sun Also Rises by Hemingway, and I’ve heard The Sportswriter is very overrated.
February 12th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Yogibarrister
I would be glad to compare my IQ to yours any time-Any place.We have never followed Rand’s philosophy–The federal government should protect us from foreign governments by maintaining the armed forces and take care of our veterans and that’s it.The local government should provide a police force and water and maybe pick up the trash and that’s it.If in your small brain you’re implying by “right-wing”(a phrase you picked up from TV)that I’m a Bush fan you’re sadly mistaken-Bush has the IQ of a 3 day old turd (like you)–He has spent our money like a drunken sailor and growed the government bigger than ever.Bill (BJ) Clinton borrowed billions from China and Bush continued it. Every government give-away program takes individual initiative away.When Bush was in one of his people would have already read your message on here.And this spying on us,I’m sure,startyed long before 9-11.All Rand was saying was get the government out of our hair and we’ll get more done.More creativity,more production. And she was right. But don’t worry-It aint gonna happen. Big brother will always be around to take care of brain-deads like you. And I know you never even read the book-Too many big words.
February 12th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
For those who said that Twilight and Harry Potter aren’t on this list because they are not “literature” and are not trying to be more than they are hyped up to be-THANK YOU!
All you people who say that these books should be on here are comparing them to the other books on this list. Are you kidding me? At their best, HP and Twilight don’t come CLOSE to any of these books, as bad as some of them are. Are you considering these books “literature?”
February 12th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
smithstar4:
Look, this isn’t my fight, nancy-boy, but I know YogiBarrister to be far from “brain dead,” and so I rise from my quiet table to enter the fracas quite simply because I don’t like the cut of your jib.
And it delights me, moreover, to stick pins in the overinflated balloon that is the half-witted pomposity of Ayn Rand’s ideas and reputation and the dullness of her followers.
If only I had more time!
But just to be quick here… Thank god we’ve never followed Rand’s “philosophy.” The woman had not the slightest understanding of the true workings of A) politics B) economics and C) society. She was a kind of a second rate Nietzschean with libertarian overtones, and my suspicion about her is that she never really understood, grasped, or much cared for the concept of democracy. You want to live in her world, go for it, sport. I, frankly, am glad (or should I say hopeful) that that kind of thinking went out with the dogmatic and blood-soaked 20th century.
But ever it is with a certain type of person, they think they have all the answers and the rest of us are just chumps for not listening to them.
Big brother, smithstar? No. Too much of that kind of thinking is what ends one of the most valuable aspects of being American—belief in ourselves and in our ability to overcome and accomplish whatever we set out to do. Government has never stood in the way of that–in fact, if anything government has evened the field and handed more tools to more people so that they can make their way in the world unhampered. Your vision would take it all away and put us on a dog-eat-dog fitting. Nice for someone who believes that merit can overcome all, but naive in the extreme, which is what Rand was all over.
Listen to yourself. You call for government to provide ONLY an army and a police force. (oh and sure, pick up the trash). Perfect boilerplate for a no-frills quasi-fascist state. I’m sure the thought of it makes you cream in your pants, smithstar, but then those rabid for empty-headed “rugged” individualism are always *just* this side of the fence from being fascists.
Thankfully we do have a broader sense of what’s “civilized” and such a thing, it’s generally agreed, involves government which acts on behalf of its citizens. In point of fact, in the world you want, we’d be very much in this situation we’re in now, only worse, and we would have been in it a lot sooner.
What you don’t understand and what Rand didn’t understand is that the ancient Greek ideal is what still holds–that liberty is to be used responsibly, and that a responsible, mature citizenry limits its own liberty via the rule of law.
Rand was an intellectual child, and acted like it. Her “philosophy” is laughable, and you can trust, smithstar, that no one will ever be following it. Even most of those who like their extremes “out there” tend to recognize unbridled naivete when they see it nowadays.
February 12th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Smithstar4, Who the fuck cares about your IQ? You’re still stupid. You absolutely need a government to regulate big business. Without the reforms instituted at the begining of the Twentieth Century, America would be a jerkwater country speaking Japanese right now. Things started to go downhill when Johnson allowed defense contractors to determine foreign policy (yes, you can counter with the entitlement programs, but most of those helped reduce poverty). Things got even worse when Reagan absolved the Randian corporatists of their obligation to society, prompting the borrow and spend doctrine that got us into this mess. Oh yeah, overturning Carter’s energy independence programs didn’t help our economy either. Clinton is overrated because he continued the insane deregulation of our financial institutions.
Libertarian philosophy is fine on paper, in fact I take that position when first evaluating any issue, but it isn’t practical for most of our current problems. What about environmental regulations? Why do you think it would be better if we allowed corporations to pollute? And do tell us how we’d be better off today if Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR were libertarians.
BTW Your ego is astounding if you believe you are a self-made or self-reliant man. You are correct, I will never read Atlas Shrugged, it’s not because there are too many big words, just way too many words in general. However much you admire her philosophy, you aren’t going to tell us you like her style of writing. E.B. White is waiting for your reply.
February 12th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
I completely agree. Twilight and Harry Potter are not literature and shouldn’t be compared to the books on this list, even if they are overrated. I think people should stop saying ‘add twilight and harry potter to the list’. THEY DON’T BELONG. Thank you.
February 12th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Smithstar4, Who the f*%k cares about your IQ? You’re still stupid. You absolutely need a government to regulate big business. Without the reforms instituted at the begining of the last Century, America would be a jerkwater country speaking Japanese right now. Things started to go downhill when Johnson allowed defense contractors to determine foreign policy (yes, you can counter with the entitlement programs, but most of those helped reduce poverty). Things got even worse when Reagan absolved the Randian corporatists of their obligation to society, prompting the borrow and spend doctrine that got us into this mess. Oh yeah, overturning Carter’s energy independence programs didn’t help our economy either. Clinton is overrated because he continued the insane deregulation of our financial institutions.
Libertarian philosophy is fine on paper, in fact I take that position when first evaluating any issue, but it isn’t practical for most of our current problems. What about environmental regulations? Why do you think it would be better if we allowed corporations to pollute? And do tell us how we’d be better off today if Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR were libertarians.
BTW Your ego is astounding if you believe you are a self-made or self-reliant man. You are correct, I will never read Atlas Shrugged, it’s not because there are too many big words, just way too many words in general. However much you admire her philosophy, you aren’t going to tell us you like her style of writing. E.B. White is waiting for your reply.
February 12th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
No “Twilight”?
February 12th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Randall:
Can you believe I actually started to do a post debating you? What a waste of time. It would be like John Stuart Mill debating a toad. By the way,what is a Nancy girl? Did your mother call you that a lot growing up?–Maybe that’s the source of a lot of your problems. So run along and kiss Barney Frank’s picture that I know you have hanging in your bedroom.
February 12th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Yogibarrister:
Is Missy Randall staying over at your house tonight? Maybe you two can discuss the literary merits of “My Pet Goat”
February 12th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Smithstar4, my God you are witty. It’s funny you should mention, My Pet Goat. It’s an anagram for ‘empty toga’ which is what your fraternity brothers discovered when they gave you reach arounds during rush week.
February 12th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
I like how we are no longer talking about literary works but just sniping each other.
At least Randall backs his stuff up.
Smithstar4…wow…get a like sweetie! You have too much anger going on here over…well nothing since you are no longer talking about the subject.
Anyway…I have since reading the list and comments, decided to read Confederacy of Dunces…I admit that one I didn’t read but a co-worker said he enjoyed it thoroughly and his taste is similar to mine.
Let’s get back to comments on the subject (however it is entertaining to say the least!)
February 12th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
*life…hee, hee
February 12th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Yogi
Well,I’ll give you that one since I don’t know what a reach around is and you’re obviously experienced in the subject.My motto is:Never debate a man who is an expert on the subject.
February 12th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
OOUCHAN
Thanks for the advice,sweetie.I WILL try to get a life. What are you doing tonight? See,I’m trying.
February 12th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
No,I didn’t lose by any measure-You lost.Because you’re a loser.If you have any brain at all and care to check back you will see that I never wrote a post to any particular person on here–I was just giving my opinion on literary works like everyone else-Randall and Yogiwhatever and you posted messages directly to me (smithstar4) and began the insults. And now you’ve grown boring.You’re still an asshole and will remain one.If you and your buddies open the ball(which you did) you can expect a comeback. You thought you could go on there and specifically post to smithstar4 and insult him and try to be cute and what? Nothing would be said? But I’m not debating anymore. As I’ve said,you’ve become boring as stupid people are prone to do.
February 12th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
You’ve saved me a lot of time and guilt since I’ve managed to avoid most of these titles. Fountain Head was tolerable some 40 years ago, but Atlas Shrugged was terrible. Rand is like G.B. Shaw; her message keeps getting in the way of her writing. I was horrified to discover that my son was required to read that trash in high school. All I can say about LOTR is that the first books I ever special ordered, over 45 years ago, were LOTR so that I finish the trilogy after my brother took his copy back to college. LOTR is a great book, but it is an epic. The aesthetics of the style belong to the 19th century with the love of archaic language and “type” characters, and I never have been able to like his poetry.
February 12th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Are they overrated? What are their ratings and what should they be? We aren’t told. So the idea that they are the “most overrated” is a bit vague with nothing to go by.
Some I’ve read, some I’ve tried to read, some not. Most are familiar to most readers, I’m sure, and some are probably on the “most-read” list if there is one.
I tried to read “Dunces” but didn’t like it enough to continue. But I don’t think that makes it a bad book or overrated; different strokes as they say!
The whole “list” thing is a bit overdone, though for every book there is someone who didn’t understand why everyone “else” loved it.
I doubt 2 people would come up with the same list of 10!
February 12th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Can someone explain to me why Madame Bovary is considered such a good book. I understand it was “new for its time” different than what was out there at the time. But I found it a really dull and boring read. I am not meaning to troll but this novel is considered one of the best ever written and I just dont get it.
thanks
February 12th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Well,I agree with you on Madame Bovary.I’m glad you posted that–I was watching C-Span’s “Booknotes” a couple of years ago and some “expert” said “Madame Bovary” was the #1 novel of all time.I knew either he was crazy or I was.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
I just realized this morning that To Kill A Mockingbird should be on here. I hated that book so very much. I understand that it was relevant when it first came out, but it’s so poorly written and boring with terrible characters…the author seemed to have just taken a bunch of random short stories she wrote, but when no one would publish them because they were so terrible, she added racism into all of them and tied them together and she is hailed as a genius.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
smithstar4…ewwww. but thanks anyway. I agree on Madame (boring) Bovary…snooze.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Which leads me to wonder: is The Dark Knight (the movie) overrated? I mean, if Heath Ledger hadn’t died, would the movie recieve the same praises as it is recieiving now?
February 12th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
oouchan
I would have thought you knew that was totally in jest–
February 12th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
I agree about Wuthering Heights. I thought I remembered loving it when I was a teenager. I tried to read it recently for a book discussion group & couldn’t get beyond the first 50 pages. It’s awful!
February 12th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Galactus
I don’t believe it would be receiving the same praises. And if Ledger receives the Oscar,you have to wonder about that too. And I bet he does.Maybe he deserves it-I didn’t see the Dark Knight.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
i tried to read “100 years” at least five times… good lord… i read somewhere between 4-6 books a month in many different genres but this one… *zzzzz*
February 12th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Galactus
I believe you would be correct. If he hadn’t died it wouldn’t have been so ‘hyped up’. I DID see it and it was pure crap. 2 parts were good…that was it.
smithstar4
yeah….i was playin with you, too!
Just to ask…what about Canterbury Tales? Talk about boring!
February 12th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
What is WRONG with you people? The Lord of the Rings trilogy is a brilliant work of literature! There are so many brilliant creations in it and beautiful, fantastical descriptions. And the poetry is wonderful, from the funny Hobbit poems to the elegant Ent poem and the Elf poems. How can you put that on the list and not the Harry Potter series (which bored me to death when I attempted to read it). LOTR is such a beautiful work.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
What an idiotic list. Lord of the Rings and The Da Vinci Code are really the only books on the list that are loved by the masses. How are books that no one reads considered overrated? If millions of high school students hate Gatsby and Wuthering Heights, wouldn’t those books be considered merely rated when compared to the several thousand high school teachers that love them? This list could use some consistency: overrated by whom? If we’re talking about about mediocre books considered classics, shouldn’t Dickens be on the list instead of Garcia Marquez? Isn’t The Scarlet Pimpernel far more poorly written than Gatsby? Someone mentioned James Fenimore Cooper; isn’t he a far worse writer than Bronte or Jane Austen? How can anyone start one of these lists and not say to themselves, “I’m an idiot for even attempting this”?
February 12th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Roxystar–Well,you hit the nail on the head.Our perspectives change with age. I remember thinking “Hans Brinker And The Silver Skates” was the most wonderful book ever when I was 8-years-old. I have rewatched old movies I thought were great when I was young and wondered what in the world was it I liked about them.This is a great site. I love the lists but there’s all age-ranges on here and backgrounds and experiences and there’s going to be differences in what we like. I’m 67-years-old and a totally disabled veteran. I wouldn’t dream of reading a Harry Potter book. I would think it silly. But that doesn’t mean it really is silly. It just means it would be to me.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Okay, I’m too lazy to read all 620-odd posts, but how about the incredibly boring and dreadful The Satanic Verses’? I tried to read it and gave up about 100 pages in because it was so stupid.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Now I understand why Hemingway is sometimes subject to ridicule. This 16 year old had to read A Farewell To Arms and The Sun Also Rises in HS and found them both overrated and insipid. And what about almost every book in Oprah’s Book Club? (The Road) lol * I liked Middlesex btw
February 12th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Daniela
Many people (including me) believe Hemingway to be the most overrated author of all time.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
LOTR was a great movie but the book was too wordy. The Da Vinci Code was a good book (fun to read) but not a great movie.
I know that this is for classics…(don’t really know if this is a classic or not) but what about Bram Stoker’s Dracula?
February 12th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
559. lo
Overrated is not the same thing as badly written. I never said they were poorly done (merely repetitive). I think they are nicely done – challenging and riveting enough for the 10-14 set to encourage reading and a decent summertime read for those older. To me, that doesn’t equate to seven years of all-encompassing hype. …technically six, since the first wasn’t anticipated but we can add a couple years due to the movie franchise. The hype was well suited to the first and then they hype increased exponentially even though each subsequent novel drew closer to mediocre. I hate to tie these two together because the former was well done and the latter is mostly crap but the hype of the book series is similar to that of the hype from M. Night movies. Perhaps, not to that extreme but similar. With each new movie he busts out, it gets worse and worse..Thankfully most of my friends have finally grown disenchanted with his films and stopped getting their boxerbriefs twisted because I refuse to pay an $11 ticket to see it with them.
I like to take the rereadability factor into account because it takes away the “first time jitters” or whatever would best describe the build up of hype …it’s a new read, the influences of everyone around you also reading it and forcing you to acknowledge their insights and favoritisms, the media advertising the books nonstop… Reading it again later gives it time to age in your mind so you can reread it more objectively. What I read and loved when I was 9 might not be as good from an objective standpoint at 29. The fact that I may see a book on the shelf at a later date and want to read it again is a strong indication that I think it was on par with what I expected it to be when I first fell for the hype. Remember, “overrated” is mostly a subjective judgment call and perhaps my high expectations were a result of fermented “you have to read this”s from too many people. You are correct – I didn’t fall prey to the HP universe. Or Star Wars craze. Or Zombie culture. …I suppose never take things seriously when people feel the need to participate in costume, haha.
I’ve read My Uncle Oswald when I borrowed the book from a roommate but never knew there was a published collection of short stories! I’ll have to see if I can find it. Thanks for the tip!!
February 12th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Anyone read the Gregory Maguire books? (Wicked, Son of a witch, Mirror Mirror, etc) I really want to like them because I like the concept of a dark twist to fairy tales. Perhaps not hyped up to the extreme as some of these other books but lots of my friends have talked about them and love love love them. As for me, I’ve got two of these books mocking me from my bookshelf. I’ve tried a number of times and still can’t get past the first 40 pages of Wicked.
…perhaps I’ll try attempt #962394 tonight… I refuse to let these books defeat me!
February 12th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
I just read all the comments. I have to agree with 618 Noman. This list is so random. Is it best-selling books? Is it academic classics? Is it books people at cocktail parties like to reference but no one actually reads? What’s the criteria here?
If DaVinci Code gets to be on the list, then the Twilight series should definitely be considered. But how do Ayn Rand, Dan Brown, and Bronte end up on the same list anyway?
February 12th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Re Emma
It might be light summer reading for teenage girls, but it is not the best novel ever written by a long shot, making this the most overrated novel of all time.
Having just Googled The best novel ever written and checked the first 30 responses, which included top 100’s from NY Times, Time, A poll of Librarians I can barely find any mention of Emma anywhere and certainly never in the Top 5. So where does your idea it is The best novel ever come from?
Noman 608 The only books loved by the masses. Today maybe but perhaps you can tell me what the popularity of Emma or WH was like at the time of their release? Then of course you need to take into account the power and reach of advertising today compared with as little as 60 years ago.
Cheers
lee
February 12th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
eroe777 (610)
Is there any reason why we should give a rat’s ass about your opinion considering you are to ignorant to read the comments of the rest of us before inflicting your view on us?
Cheers
Lee
February 13th, 2009 at 1:03 am
oouchan,Galactus
Dark Knight was overrated and perhaps overhyped but it was still highly anticipated simply because it was part of the Batman franchise. I think Ledger deserves recognition because of his great acting but I agree with oouchan that the movie wasn’t good at all. Aside from the few Ledger scenes, the only thing I liked was that it was my first noneducational IMAX film to watch
Good list, I agree with most of those on here. I’d add Love Story (the book and the movie…sorry. I have no patience for sappiness), the Blood Meridian, Patricia Cornwell’s Book of the Dead. I don’t know if that’s hyped up but I know the author is so with book sales and membership discounts at Border’s I paid only $3 for a hardback copy. …and regret wasting so much money.
And banned books? I went through a banned book curiosity and found that they were rather quite dull and way overrated by the ultra-conservative.
February 13th, 2009 at 4:00 am
just here for the gifts…
February 13th, 2009 at 4:04 am
i want a shirt. don’t really care for any of these books.
February 13th, 2009 at 4:51 am
The Great Gatsby is a wonderful novel. Its story arc is nearly perfect; its first person narrator injects just enough of himself to give the story a moral center; and its main characters are very sharp. Tom is a careless brute, Daisy an enchanting airhead, and Gatsby has heroically, if dishonestly, completely remade himself to be worthy of her.
Emma Woodhouse is a fascinating character. She is “handsome, clever and rich”, but has nothing to expend her cleverness on except creating soap opera. This is a story about class, love and money. Ultimately, of course, she finds that she’s not as clever as she thinks she is. If the ultimate message of the novel is disturbing (that a woman ain’t nothing if she ain’t got a man), Austen does succeed in creating a real plot about a girl with no real troubles.
I would add The Brothers Karamazov to this list. Decent story, but Dostoevsky is compelled to stop the plot every few chapters to add some new religious or philosophical discussion. And even worse, the main mystical character, Alyosha, ends up being ridiculous, even to the author.
February 13th, 2009 at 6:43 am
smithstar:
Well you’re right about one thing:
“Can you believe I actually started to do a post debating you? What a waste of time. It would be like John Stuart Mill debating a toad.”
Yes… yes it would, smithstar. The only thing is, you’re confused as to who would be John Stuart Mill in our exchange, and who would be the toad.
Your complete failure to answer anything I had to say quite frankly speaks for itself, and for you. You’re obviously a child, if not in actual years then certainly in mind, temperament, and critical thinking skills. If anything, the croaking of toads at night is more pleasant to listen to.
February 13th, 2009 at 6:52 am
I don’t understand how people can stick up for One hundred years of Solitude. its not that we can’t see past our cultural barrier or don’t get magi realism or that the names confuse us. its more that its a dull, drawn out book mainly about nothing. Its a shot gun, scatter brained series of incidents many of which are pointless and contribute nothing to the plot. In my opinion its an awful book.
February 13th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Oh dear god I have been forced to read most of these books while in School. Each and every paged ached when I turned them is an understatement. Dry, dull & dusty; just like my English professors who forced these “works” upon my freshly minted soul . I damn them all.
February 13th, 2009 at 7:41 am
I can understand your irritation when people keep raving about books they did not read. However, the opposite is also though. People dismissing books they have never read. I happen to think “One Hundred Years of Solitude” was the best book I have ever read. And I thoroughly enjoyed the lord of the rings al 3 times I read it.
The book I really miss in your list is of cource the Bible.
February 13th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Randall-Wow-you got me there-Boy,what a comeback.Using my words about you back against me because you couldn’t come up with anything new–Wow-What strategy!What a wit. How original. And using my words shows you certainly have critical thinking skills.Now go watch “The Jerry Springer Show” and do some more critical thinking,asshole.
February 13th, 2009 at 8:39 am
smithstar4:
Every time you type something on here, you dig yourself in deeper, kid. My advice would be to stop now and you still might be able to climb out of the hole.
Or, here’s another thought—instead of behaving like a child whose nonsense and boastings have been exposed, why not actually *answer* what I wrote earlier? Your lame accusation that *I* “couldn’t come with anything new” is turned right back around on you—*you* clearly have no response whatsoever (certainly nothing of an intellectual nature) to the points I made… so hiding behind adolescent insults and tagging is apparently all you’ve got. Pathetic.
You pretend to know what you’re talking about; so stand up like a man and argue it out. Or else get lost.
February 13th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Randall-What’s the latest on the Jerry Springer show? Keep us updated.
February 13th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Daley (625) The only overrated thing about 100 years are most of it´s readers.
This book has been misused to “understand” “Latinamerican mysticism” or whatever kind of romantic, naive and stupid idea of Latinamerica some foreigners have.
The purpose of this book is greatly misunderstood (and clearly mistranslated) for what I can see.
García Marquez (a noble prize winner by the way), is a monster in literature (seeing his name on this list next to Dan Brown´s almost made me puke); his way of using spanish, placing elegantly and perfectly each of the words, to give an almost poetic intention to each page he writes is almost unmatchable at least in Spanish prose literature. Along with Jorge Luis Borges, there has been few examples of such a polished and clever usage of the language regardless of the fact that you understood profoundness of the plot and the great mind behind it.
If you want a book about “something” read a mechanics manual and give up literature.
February 13th, 2009 at 9:35 am
As a Senior in High School, and having to read Great Gatsby last year… It is a complete pain. Plus, we had a student teacher… Grrr…
February 13th, 2009 at 10:49 am
630. Betsyville: As a Senior in High School…
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This confirms my worst fears. We’ve been arguing with a bunch of under-educated children! No wonder their opinions are so skewed. ~sigh~
Give them a decade or two and revisit the idea, things will have changed.
February 13th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Six hundred and thirty three??! You can’t all win a mug, you mugs!
February 13th, 2009 at 11:39 am
631. segue, I´m afraid so
February 13th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
What an unfortunate and misguided list. One wonders what the criteria for this obvious op-ed peice actually is? Such lists are often the remarks of individuals “fed up” with seeing novels or authors thrust into their faces time and again. Certainly a better article to be written would be about why these books are so often brought up, rather than making short, uninformed, and unsupported claims about some excellent peices of writing.
February 13th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Disagree with One Hundred Years of Solitude. It has the satisfying complexity of a Russian novel. Agree with Confederacy of Dunces. For all of it’s reputation it just isn’t that funny.
February 13th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
633. psychosurfer: You intrigue me; always so calm and rational. How on earth do you do it? Or do you save your insanity for the real world?
February 13th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
segue, Yoga I guess.
LOL! not true, you should take a look at my life now, not so leveled believe me
February 13th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
638. psychosurfer: I guess everyone who has a “cool” has a secret to that cool.
You don’t want to know what mine is!
February 13th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
believe me I do!
February 13th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
you could have included thomas wolfe’s “look homeward angel” long considered a sensation it is an undisciplined writer pumping out thousands of words gratuitously strung together to sell extravagant,fatuous romantic drivel.
February 13th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Twilight?
February 13th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Oh, I’m not the only one who thinks Twilight sucks.
February 13th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Bettysvile (631)
Funny you should mention this. Earlier posters have mentioned To Kill A Mockingbird as a candidate for this list. My first experience with TKAM was at High School where it was a required read. Couldn’t stand it!!! Awful Book.
However about twenty years later I picked up a copy at a book fair. Suffice to say it is now in my keeper collection and is IMO one of the Great Novels. So be a little wary of casting too firm a judgement on some of those clunkers you have to read.
Though I also wonder at the point of continuing with books like Gatsby as required reading in HS. After all no matter how well written most of these older novels are (and I do not automatically suppose Gatsby is) I just do not think they connect with modern students. Surely there must be modern literature that speaks to HS students that is also of high enough quality to convey what is required for curriculum purposes and no, Twilight and the Da Vinci Code don’t meet said quality.
Cheers
Lee
February 13th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Apologies that should be Betsyville. Poor typing and Proofreading not an intended insult
Lee
February 13th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
smithstar (574)
Still waiting to hear you reasoning for this apparently stupid statement.
Cheers
Lee
February 13th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
I rememeber that I loved to Kill a Mockingbird so much that I read it in one sitting. Not overrated IMO. Happy valentine’s day everyone! *hugs*
February 13th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
I agree with those proposing The Catcher is the Rye to be on the list.
February 13th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
A compelling list, with one glaring error. “Wuthering Heights” is an astonishing novel. It’s almost an anti-romance, with Heathcliff the brute as the despicable driving force. Ellen Dean, the narrator, is as complex and secretive a creation as there is in literature. You’ve missed badly with this one. It’s a book I re-read every decade or so, and it always reveals new riches.
February 13th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
This is my first post after a great long time of enjoying these lists, whether I agree with them or not.
However, I must finally speak up and say that ‘over-rated’ is the most over-used phrase these days. It is all too easy to look at something others are enjoying and act as if something is being ‘hyped,’ when it isn’t.
I guess the appearance of LOTR on this list got to me. Tolkein’s writing is hugely influential and for good reason. It is rich, layered, and very in-sync with the older forms of literature that he was such an expert on.
Yes, he took his time letting the story unfold, but I am not going to be told by people with short attention spans, that this is reason enough to hold this work up to ridicule. I find that insulting and superficial — traits that are all too common in modern criticism.
(the rest of the list is right-on, though)
February 14th, 2009 at 4:51 am
I absolutely loved “To Kill a Mockingbird”! And the movie was wonderful, too.
February 14th, 2009 at 7:42 am
K1W1taxi
Apparently stupid statement???How can something be apparently stupid? If you ever read the book(which you won’t because you would have to be literate))we’ll discuss it.
February 14th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
One Hundred Years of Solitude is possibly my favourite novel, I didn’t find it difficult to follow at all. Maybe it’s because I read most of it in a short space of time (three days), so it was constantly fresh in my mind.
February 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
If everyone could wrap their head around “atlas shrugged”. America would not be in the mess it is…
February 14th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
It would already be flushed down the crapper.
February 14th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Candi Sue-Thank you-Good to see someone who marches to the beat of their own drummer and doesn’t run with the crowd. Finding someone else who can think for herself and not be led is refreshing.
February 14th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
I think there’s a little more than 200 comments here.
February 14th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
smithstar4 (652)
No we won’t because any argument I may put forth that disagrees with your view will merely be met with a childish and abusive response as has evry poster that has tried to argue with you. Yes they have given some abuse to you, but they have given back up to their viewpoint, you however have only ever given abuse.
Another reason we will not be argiung is that I firmly believe in the old maxim never argue with an idiot because they will always drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Goodbye
Lee
February 14th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Hm.
Some of my favorites are up there…
I loved 100 Years of Solitude.
And The Great Gatsby.
And Atlas Shrugged.
One novel that should really be up there is Lady Chatterley’s Lover.
I mean, “An’ if tha shits an’ pisses, I’m glad, I don’t want a woman as couldna shit nor piss.”
…
How is that excellent writing?
February 14th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Sorry if this gets reposted, the first one is being reviewed. I deleted my cookies this morning and forgot which e-mail account I use here…
Candi_sue #654, here we go again. To embrace Ayn Rand, you must reject the trust busting of Teddy Roosevelt, the FTC, the establishment of the Federal Reserve, FDIC, Social Security, the draft, income tax etc.. How could such a simple organism like that hope to compete with other nations? Libertarianism is perfect for social issues like gay marriage, drug laws, abortion, free speech, and right to privacy, but you cannot function as a society if you allow corporations to regulate the government rather than the other way around.
February 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Kiwitaxi or peewee taxi or whatever–Go to the bathroom and read “my pet goat”. If your head starts to hurt put it between your knees.
Candi-Sue–Continue to think for yourself-Ignore people who use phrases “like here we go again” as though you’re a child who just doesn’t understand. You’ve got more brains in your little finger than his whole family has. As I’ve said,you’re very refreshing. When I read people like you I start thinking maybe we have a chance to recover afterall-Get government out of the way and everything else will work itself out thru self-reliance as you already know.
February 14th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Harry Potter is a bit overated. The first three books where fantastic, but after that the books felt forced, like the author was just making stuff up on the go just for some extra cash.
February 14th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
(teaser)
Having not read any of these or any day to day interest to do so, i am still tappin in the plastic letter buttons because i most currently have one eye on the slim athletic bitches of Smackdown & their sexual contortionistic acrobatics and tight and tiny spandex….. and for some reason it got me thinking. Among other things, I find my thoughts on the nature of the High and Low (of art), and the clear division and blurry disolve between.
To me, a great beautiful bulk of the arts can be understood through this sort and blend . The physically arresting and soap operatic build up and bully ballet of pro wrestling; releated to shakespeareanlike theater and the bloody coliseum, the amplimagniflick of grand feeling, by way of audience extremities, certain specific overload , and sexual inuindos with cornball embaressments and moments of brilliance and brawny awe . Telling a good story and/or keeping a mass interest can occur throughout the spectrum.. all the male hero /villian mythic muscle and the current view of reality.
lets see… I will maybe continue this mess on the “Steven King –stories to film–list”.
February 14th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Sorry, LOTR is off the mark. While Tolkien can go off on a tangent, how many other books invent languages that work, make it easy to imagine the world you occupy and are COPIED copiusly, if not down to the friggin word? Harry “Pothole” is the biggest ripoff in literary history and yet, no mention?
February 14th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
I respectfully disagree with Confederacy of Dunces and Great Gatsby, but wholeheartedly agree with LOTR.
February 14th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
I’d agree with you on LOtR and anything by Jane Austen. For other classics I can only say that I loved Jane Eyre but Wuthering Heights not so much.
I liked 100 Years (but maybe that’s because I was a Spanish major and I will admit that reading it a second time 20 years after the first time was a very different experience).
Atlas Shrugged reminded me of Marxist literature profs I had in college but from the other side – totally unimaginative either way.
For recent biggies I’d say Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell is rather flat and I totally agree that The Confedracy of Dunces and The Davinci Code are overrated (I enjoyed Davinci but never finished Confederacy).
February 14th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
“Atlas Shrugged reminded me of Marxist literature profs I had in college but from the other side”
Soxanne, you don’t have to put on the red lit
February 14th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Why isn’t Twillight and Happry Potter on here?
February 15th, 2009 at 1:05 am
K1w1taxi, that’s the first time I haven’t seen you sign off with “cheers”!
February 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Harry Potter!!!
And yeah LOTR is overrated. Doesn’t stop Tolkien from being the pioneer of modern fantasy fiction though.
But yeah put Harry Potter on that list, I was sort of surprised that it wasn’t #1.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Ah yes, the list and comments sure took me on a painful trip down memory lane. I would force myself to read books recommended by high-school English lit teachers and college professors and wondered what all the hype was about. JFrater, I’ve not visited this site often, but have you made a list of overrated authors? And I really think you could expand your overrated novel list easily to include a hundred books.
I didn’t do an in-depth reading of the comments, but I wonder if anybody else feels as I do that the Chronicles of Narnia are overrated? This was a recommended read by my husband and others. Again, I had to force myself to read the first book and just couldn’t connect with the plot or characters.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
671. dzmay: I’m not at all surprised at your reaction to Chronicles of Narnia. Those are meant for children, so any adult attempting to read and get any enjoyment from them would be fighting a real uphill battle!
And just as a by-the-by, find out what you do like to read, and then read that! For me, it’s mostly non-fiction. I don’t care 2 cents whats on the best seller list, I’m pretty sure I won’t like it. Give me a book on Anthropology or Neurology or Evolutionary Biology, Art History, American History, or Physics and I’m a happy camper.
Stretch yourself. There’s something you love to read out there, you just haven’t found it yet.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
I disagree, I really really really enjoyed 100 years of solitude. One of my favorite books, actually. It’s difficult to read because of all of the characters with similar names but I really fancy magic realism.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
I agree with everything on this list. One thing I noticed though was your misspelling of “deus ex machina”, there’s an a at the end not an e. Other than that, great list.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Would have loved to see Hemingway’s “A Farewell to Arms” on this list. That book somehow managed to be both dull as well as gratingly irritating (Try reading page after page of two shallow people saying, “I love you, baby” back and forth to one another). There’s no suspense at all, and the plot only picks up in the last several pages; the first 90% is mostly the nondescript protagonist lying around and drinking.
After having read that book, every time I hear Hemingway described as a great author, I cringe a little.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
smithstar4-
wow, you’ve done an amazing job of presenting yourself as a worthy target of ridicule while simultaneously presenting little else at all, hats off to you!
now go play with people on your level, there are many place here in the tubes that LOVE fighting with your sort -perhaps “tron” will show you the way?
February 15th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
I have four words and a number for you:
THE CRYING OF LOT 49
February 15th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
I made myself feel guilty when I took extended breaks while reading The Brothers Karamazov but Im glad I finished it.
February 16th, 2009 at 12:07 am
677. Laura-
(we have the same given name) should we listen to Yo La Tengo’s “the crying of lot g” and remember vonnegut while we do? i’m not being sarcastically snarky, i love yo la tengo and vonnegut
February 16th, 2009 at 1:34 am
I would add Alchemist by Paulo Coelho. It is the biggest popular crap ever.
February 16th, 2009 at 2:28 am
680. Ydonnea -
no matter how much “popular crap” coelho’s “alchemist” may or may not be, i have a wicked cool story about it: a good friend of mine worked in a used book store in our home town. her older sis was an “alchemist” fan. so, for big sis’s b-day my friend looked for a copy that was hardcover and not too beat-up in her (she wasn’t the owner, just an hourly worker) used bookstore. she found one, rang it up by the tag on the spine. then she took it home and peeled off that price sticker and opened the book.
it was a first edition signed by the author! it had somehow been incorrectly priced on the shelf. (i knew the owners of this store, what happened was a bizarre pricing/shelving mistake, the people working there hourly wouldn’t have priced the book to begin with.)
a great buy at $4.00 USD in 2001, y’all must admit. her sister was very happy
February 16th, 2009 at 10:49 am
LO–How’s everything in OZ? While tron is showing me the way,get tittytaxi to read “My Pet Goat” to you.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:14 am
681. lo: coelho’s “alchemist” , it was a first edition signed by the author! a great buy at $4.00 USD in 2001
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lo: You’d be surprised at how often these mistakes happen. My personal library is rife such happy errors.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:18 am
I don’t really think that Harry Potter would be considered literature, but you are right. It was totally overrated.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:54 am
smithstar:
I note, *once again,* that you have failed utterly to actually ANSWER me or respond with any kind of an argument. You simply make adolescent cracks which don’t even have the virtue of being amusing.
Too cowardly to debate your views, or just plain too stupid? I’d warrant it’s both, but then I’m only going by the evidence you’ve given us thus far.
February 16th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Whats up with My Pet Goat ? I`ve never heard of it. Is it a classic ?
February 16th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Lo-Randall-TittyTaxi-Whatever name you’re going by at the present–Well,of course it’s because I’m afraid of your giant mentality–How could I ever debate anyone with an IQ like yours? So all that’s left for me is adolescent cracks that are not even funny.That’s all stupid people can do when up against a genius like you. So go back to the bathroom and read “My Pet Goat” again.Maybe this time you’ll get the plot line. Or better yet,have a 5-year-old explain it to you.
February 16th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
There is an inconsistency as to what the standards are to consider novels “overrated.”
Wuthering Heights sure is overrated to you if you are an angsty teenager who took AP Literature or English Honors just to make his or her transcript look decent for college apps. It will bore you to death with its archaic style and interminable quotes. But if you’re a little more mature and expect something more from literature than the romance of two modern adventurous teenagers, you will probably like it.
On the other hand, things like the Da Vinci Code and the LOTR trilogy are popular among the masses and not so among the more educated groups.
So from what perspective are we assessing these books, from the average reader’s or from the more elevated one’s?
February 16th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
-P.J. O’Rourke, Civil Libertarian
Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
-Frederic Bastiat, French Economist (1801-1850)
February 16th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I have only read two of the books on the list (LOTR, and DaVinci Code) and agree with both. One novel I would have made room for is Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger. I really cant think of an more ordinary novel that has been held in such high regard due solely to the praise of teachers and intellectuals alike. Boring.
February 16th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
I agree with some of the choices, not with others, which is only to be expected. However, there are a couple exclusions which I find truly amazing. One is SILAS MARNER. I recall that monstrosity from high school. The most excruciatingly boring thing I had ever encountered at that point. The other specific exclusion I wish to question is one of the world’s classics, but, does not deserve to be. It is WAR AND PEACE.
That novel is the refined essence of boredom and confusion,
amalgamated into something entirely other.
February 16th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
bigski-
“my pet goat” is the book G.W. bush was reading to a school class when he was informed of the events of 9.11. then he sat there for 8 or 9 minutes before making a move to direct the country, holding the book. it’s odd the smithstar4 is SO fixated on it, it must be associated with a seminal event in this life. perhaps he was one of the elementary school students in that classroom on that infamous day?
February 16th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
one hundred years of solitude is the most amazing book ever written.
truly magical; I read it in Spanish when I was 14
I had just a little trouble, keeping up with the names. Which I beliee to be intended.
Anyways.
Most amazing book, ever
February 16th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
smithstar4 says:
“Lo-Randall-TittyTaxi-Whatever name you’re going by at the present–”
-and i’m assuming he meant k1w1taxi in there, it appears he thinks we are multiple e-handles for the same person.
may i simply say i’m HIGHLY flattered by such association (despite the apparent idiocy of the one making it)! indeed, an idiot has just thrown my name in with LV-ers who’ve been here long before myself. despite it coming from an idiot, it’s pretty cool (blushes).
February 17th, 2009 at 7:49 am
smithstar:
It’s truly amusing how you seem to actually believe that your pathetic little squirming won’t be recognized for what it is. Constant repetitions of the same unfunny joke over and over (“My Pet Goat”) illustrate clearly that you possess not the slightest speck of wit (which often signals a lack of brains as well). Blatant attempts to avoid the argument you know you can’t win (because you haven’t the wit OR the intelligence) by the most unamusing, lame, and sad attempts at sarcasm further illustrate that you never knew what you were talking about in the first place–which is what I said from the first. You’re a coward and an ass, smithstar, and so brainless as to believe that the various people you’ve encountered on this site are one and the same person–which just a tiny bit of research on your part would show clearly to not be the case.
But of course, whenever a loudmouth like yourself is challenged, they always take the dishonorable, cowardly way out–as you’re doing here by A) refusing to step up to the plate and debate any of your ideas and assertions B) attempting to undermine your opponents by the absurd accusation that they are in fact all the same person “ganging up on you” and C) trying to tease and mock your way out of the situation you’ve put yourself in, like some runt-child who goads others into fights and then runs away so he doesn’t have to face the beating he knows he’ll receive.
You’re not worth the time and effort, pinhead. Either step up and present an argument here or just get lost. No one’s listening to you and even though you clearly crave attention, you’re not going to find it.
The ALMOST amusing thing about this is that someone possessing an actual intellect COULD put up an argument in favor of Ayn Rand’s nonsense (though the harsh fact is that anyone with actual brains usually abandons the belief in Rand’s noodlings by the time they pass adolescence) and it might be possible to have a spirited, if rather pointless, debate about it. But you’re not the one to look to for this, obviously.
I don’t know why, but I actually hate being so mean about this for once–it seems to me that I’m kicking a mental cripple here, and what I really think you need to do, smithstar, is find some goddamn humility and go learn a lesson from this. The lesson is, if you want to have strong opinions, then learn to back them up. Don’t just think you can yell them out and strong-arm people into believing them, or else that you can then mock them into silence or illegitimacy. I frankly don’t care that you believe in Ayn Rand’s “philosophy.” All kinds of people will believe all kinds of ridiculous crap in this world. But I care when people mouth off again and again and don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. And you don’t. And we have enough of that idiocy in this world–it’s what causes most of the problems we have–people who don’t know what they’re doing or why they stand for what they stand for, but obstinately stick to it anyway.
Grow up and learn to defend your stances, smithstar. And until then, learn the lesson that shutting up when one doesn’t know is one of the wisest things a person can do.
February 17th, 2009 at 8:40 am
Randall-It’s always been funny to me how an ignorant punk like you can repeatedly call a man a coward knowing there is no way you can be confronted to say that to his face.That speaks volumes about you and your ilk.You’re not mean at all–You’re just a cluless piece of shit.Living thru message boards because you have no other life.You don’t (can’t) read–You don’t visit museums-you have no hobbies and no significant other.So this is your world.You’re boring as hell.And you know it too.
February 17th, 2009 at 10:41 am
in two words: Harry Potter
February 17th, 2009 at 10:47 am
lo-692- Thanks,I didn`t know that.
P.S. Good job of ballbreaking !
February 17th, 2009 at 11:20 am
smithstar:
Ah, here we go again. Another ditzbrain who thinks I’d be intimidated if only I had to face him in person.
I’d like to point out a few things, loudmouth:
A) You have only to make a cogent, reasoned argument for your views on Ayn Rand. You have REPEATEDLY FAILED TO DO THIS despite REPEATED invitations to do so. It’s your *chance*, smithstar, to show me up for the “ignorant punk” that you’re oh so convinced I am. Yet you continually fail to take that chance. Why? Clearly the answer is that you just don’t know what to say. You have your beliefs but you have no idea how to defend them against criticism. Instead of being humble about that, you prefer to pretend that no such criticism or challenge exists, and instead you can just belittle the challengers and critics, and assume *that* is a sufficient substitute for intellectual discourse. It isn’t.
B) “It’s ALWAYS been funny” to you, huh, that someone like ME can call someone like YOU a coward? Interesting. So it’s happened to you before, I take it. I don’t doubt it, if you make a practice out of shooting off your mouth in places while failing to back it up in the slightest with anything better than insults.
C) There is no RELEVANCY in your silly attempt to belittle MY manhood. What does that have to do, in the slightest, with your views (or mine) on Ayn Rand’s philosophy? YOU are the one who has repeatedly failed to defend your views. I can’t help your unwillingness in this department. Only you can.
D) If you so desire, however, my preferred spot for offline discussions of a “philosophical nature” are certain neighborhoods in Brooklyn that I’m particularly affectionate about. Just outside Prospect Park West are some nice spots, in the numbers. The folks there are used to seeing big mouths “lose arguments” in a public fashion. It’s entertaining.
Now, leaving aside the silliness, isn’t it very ironic (and telling), smithstar, that you feel free to so unsupportably malign me without the slightest shred of evidence to back up your nonsensical ravings? I’m a “clueless piece of shit,” eh? Well, I hardly think anything I’ve written either in this thread or elsewhere supports that view–quite the opposite, in fact. And I “have no other life,” huh? Interesting. Comes as news to me given all the fun and reward I have outside of this occasional and amusing jaunt I take on this site. Of course, it doesn’t seem to occur to you that both of these little accusations can be more accurately pointed in *your* direction—you keep coming on here to shoot off your mouth but SAY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER. You voiced very forcible views on a subject–but then when challenged have done and said NOTHING except for spewing out a bunch of irrelevant and pointless invective. Not the slightest defense of your views has appeared. One wonders why you BOTHER, smithstar. Don’t YOU have anything better to do? Wouldn’t you prefer making an argument for your views instead of this repetitious wasting of time?
Even more mindboggling, I’d love to know how it is you assume that I don’t or can’t read (uh huh), that I don’t visit museums (what?) have no hobbies (excuse me?) and have no “significant other” (that’ll be news to her… I’ll be sure to tell her). As for my “knowing” that I’m “boring”—hmmm… whaddya know? Ah… but you see, I’m not. I amuse myself and many others on a daily basis, and as it happens I’m quite the deviously charming raconteur.
You, on the other hand, can come up with nothing better than *this* to counter me or to defend the beliefs you apparently wish to stand for.
I repeat my advice to you. Get some humility, grow up, and learn some wisdom. If you want to say things, then learn WHY you should say them and learn HOW to say to them. And if you want to believe things, then realize that you need to SUPPORT those beliefs. That’s the way life works. The only thing exempt from this is spirituality. There you’re allowed to believe whatever you wish and no one has the right to challenge you. But in the world of ideas, which is what we’re talking about here, you either put up or shut up.
February 17th, 2009 at 11:51 am
I have repeatedly visited this list…not for the subject…but for the ‘war’ going on between Randall and smithstar4. (very entertaining, to say the least)
Although I know you will make a comment about this, smithstar4…you are losing this war because you have resulted in name calling and are not answering all of Randall’s questions and/or comments/concerns.
However, Randall…I wouldn’t continue arguing at this point at it seems to be moot.
Great commentary anyway!
February 17th, 2009 at 11:55 am
oouchan:
I’m in fact done. I’ve made my point. I have no further time to waste on this.
February 17th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Randall:
Good for you! (however…will be sad that I can’t enjoy the verbal sparring anymore)
February 17th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
I don’t like any of these books anyways. I happy with the list.
February 17th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Randall–Brooklyn?-HaHa-You’ve really scared me now.Yo’re even more of a piece of cowardly shit than I had imagined.
This will also be my last post on this subject as I have made my point-Won the argument-And scared the shit out of you causing you to start lying-No you have no one. Brooklyn–Are you really so stupid as to believe that would actually scare someone? Silly question.Of course you are. Are you a Jet Or Shark?–HaHaHa-More likely,you’re Maria. Of course you have no idea what I’m talking about. You’re a sad case,actually–BTW–I’m flying into LaGuardia in May. I’ll be glad to give you my real name and flight number. Maybe one of your boyfriends can drive you over and we can have that discussion you’re so anxious to have. God,I would love that.
February 17th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Randall, I’ve been following this little tiff with amusement. It’s almost like you were talking to a wooden dummy (okay, take out the “almost”). Once again, the Eastern Intellectual Elite has smothered his hapless, helpless opponent.
Hear, hear! A toast to Randall!
I’m drinking single malt. What will you have?
February 17th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Is it just me or does smithstar and ZOOMER in the cannabis thread seem very similar to anyone else? When more than one person disagrees they both seem to have made those multiple people into one. They both will not answer the question, but try personal attacks on those disagreeing. All seems so odd to me.
February 17th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Smithstar: I will admit I was not able to get past about 3 pages in “Atlas Shrugged”. I am curious as to what in the book you feel would make us “not be in this mess”. What is her philosophy? Why would it work where others fail? I know I am not as smart as some on here because I could not grasp my tiny brain around Ayn Rand’s writing, but I am looking to be educated. Please enlighten me.
February 17th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
I mostly agree except for 100 years of solitude. best book ever. end of discussion. just because your mind is to feeble to understand its magnificence does not make it over rated. i have never heard anyone say this was a bad book IF they read it and understood it. i understand the da vinci code but its HYPE and nothing more. its a camp story if that but 100 years is a book everyone should read at one point in their lives.
February 18th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Thank you! I know people who have read tolken and try to use him as the tempate to judge all fiction.
February 18th, 2009 at 12:28 am
segue-
breaking out the single malt! i guess i’ll join you with a cheap rum and coke, as i’m broke right now. and don’t forget that we in the midwestern “fly-over states” are not all as idiotic as poor smithstar4, wherever he may hail from
(i’m still shocked he thought i could secretly be randall, who obviously has much life experience i can’t claim -like yourself
)
February 18th, 2009 at 6:21 am
segue:
I’ll of course have what you’re having.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:33 am
smithstar:
You’re such a piece of worthless garbage it pains me to even bother responding one last time here, because in fact MY time is precious to me. But it may serve society to have someone tell you, smithstar, that you’re clearly delusional, and it might do for you to seek help.
A) I don’t know what “argument” you feel you “won” here, as you NEVER stepped up to the plate to present one. You simply tossed out childish, moronic insults such as your latest tirade.
B) The Brooklyn crack was what we in certain circles call a “joke,” smithstar–but from the “humor” you’ve exhibited here, it’s easy to understand how you’d be unable to grasp the concept. However, pinhead, I AM in fact from New York and am typing to you right now from the glorious and corrupt Empire State. I’m baffled as to what “lie” you think I was peddling… but then your desire to repeatedly embarrass yourself on this site has baffled me as well.
C) Flying into LaGuardia? Taking a vacation, are we, from the trailer park? Good. Expanding the mind is something you’re sorely overdue for. Stick around and see the big city, smithstar. Take in a show.
D) Scared the shit out of me? Uh, how? With your oh-so-scary words? Ah, sure, that must be it. Well, I have no doubt that the sky in your world is a far more electric color than our ordinary blue, and as pretty as that may be, I suggest medication to assist you out of these weird takes on “reality” as you see it. It can only help your life to be happier and more productive.
February 18th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Was the competition prize-winner ever announced?
February 18th, 2009 at 8:23 am
710. lo, 711. Randall: You’ll both have what I’m having.
BTW, lo, while I find it funny that coq-headed smithstar4 thought you were Randall (your styles are too different to even consider that scenario!), over on the Cannabis list there is an idiot named ZOOMER who thinks I am somewhere around 6 different posters, including bucslim and poor, innocent bystanders who come in to make a statement and go on. It’s insane!
February 18th, 2009 at 11:10 am
A few other overrated ones, in my humble opinion, are The Godfather, Gone With the Wind, and Moby Dick. If it weren’t for the movies, I never would have been exposed. (Except maybe “Moby Dick” which was required reading for me in 10th grade and I DID kinda like it! – Could have had something to do with the teeny-bopper crush I had on my teacher, Coach Brown! LOL)
February 18th, 2009 at 11:13 am
By the way, why is the List Universe’s owner allowing such commentors as Randall and Smithstar to pollute this site with their ridiculous ranting? They’re so juvenile and useless and worthless and shameful!
February 18th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
You’ve relieved some of that pesky guilt I have from not enjoying the classics. Glad I’m not the only one who had trouble finishing some of these.
February 18th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
genihanna:
Because Randall is a long-time contributor and friend to the site and serves as a free educational/entertainment source of great value.
You’re not seeing me at my best, genihanna… trust me, I’m a charmer.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
@ #13
It’s funny you say that, because I was tempted to think the same thing about England after living there. Then I realized, maybe it’s just my own personal bias that keeps me from realizing these people are as good as I am. Maybe if I tried to learn about the way they do things, instead of examining the differences and calling them wrong.
Your people (whomever they are) aren’t any better than the Americans, and the Americans aren’t any better than you. It sounds like a few people treated you bad, but did you really manage to meet all 300 million in only 9 years?
February 19th, 2009 at 10:10 am
haha…I was browsing through another list – Top Ten Novels – and Great Gatsby was in there. I actually had to go to post 134 before someone confessed they didn’t like it.
February 22nd, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Twilight I think is the most over rated novel I’ve ever read….Its a very intriguing story funny and a page turner but its JUST a story its not great fiction….just a good story I can’t think of any literary undertones in that book or one word I had to look up. then again maybe that’s why everyone loves it. it was easy…like the one girl in school that never said no….
February 24th, 2009 at 1:00 am
segue-
thanks for the drink! i toast to you and to randall, and to anon for good measure!
people do draw weird conclusions about who might be “ganging-up” on them when they’re threatened by wit and logic, don’t they?
i skipped the cannabis comments after the first few, figuring it wasn’t my fight. so i don’t know who you were lumped-in with, but i think you (like randall and anon as well) have a singular personality which comes through even in these forums. i’m flattered if you think i do too.
cheers!
February 24th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Of course you belong, lo! Anyone can see that.
And thanks for the toast, I skipped my breakfast this a.m. trying to see the comet with two tails!
No luck, but I’ll have another chance tonight.
February 24th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
You forgot about twilight, every 1 is on about it but its just not an interesting book(s) or film
February 24th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I’m pretty sure he didn’t “forget” Twilight, it just isn’t rated that highly. Selling well and being highly-regarded are two COMPLETELY different things.
February 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
I have read A LOT of books in my time and most of the “classics” are, like one said,a chore at best. Twilight,as bad as the writing is, was impossible to not enjoy for it’s sheer cheesiness. I couldn’t put it down. And Harry Potter? I’m sorry,but when was the last time “Confederacy of Dunces” encouraged a generation of otherwise non-reading children to pick up a book?
February 26th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Must weigh in with my opinion (which many others seem to share) that Confederacy of Dunces does not belong on this list. It is a hilarious and original novel. In response to Esoteric, it was not written for children so, of course, would not be intended as something to get non-readers reading. There are plenty of other books that suit that purpose.
February 26th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Harry Potter.period.
February 28th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
so.. what about the twilight series?
i think that should have been number ONE! =P
February 28th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Books by Charles Dickens.
Any redeeming value to his work had to be squeezed out by a movie director.
March 1st, 2009 at 1:27 am
Hi, I’ve been reading this site for a while but have never commented. The Bell Jar, anyone? I don’t know who I wanted to kill more, the main character of the Catcher in the Rye or the Bell Jar’s main character. Y’all had better leave the Harry Potter series alone, never has any set of books fired my imagination more than Harry Potter.
I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one who couldn’t get through One Hundred Years of Solitude. I surprisingly made it through both Atlas Shrugged and the Fountainhead, and I wish I could have those hours of my life back. The writing was brilliant, but it was the most preachy pile of Republican-like crap I’ve ever read. She actually had me believing for a while that helping people led to misery, but the I snapped back to reality.
March 1st, 2009 at 3:07 am
I agree Krysta. Ayn Rand was created by Satan to spread misery amongst the poor. I’m just thankful that God intervened to stop her mating with Alan Greenspan. Antichrist, anyone? We dodged a bullet there.
Overrated (good books, but overrated):
The Buddha of Suburbia
White Teeth
The Corrections
The Old Man and the Sea
The Crying of Lot 49
On The Road
Finnegans Wake
Midnight’s Children
The Lovely Bones (actually this wasn’t even good)
Point Counterpoint
To The Lighthouse
The Sea
The Kite Runner
Brideshead Revisited (read Waugh’s 1963 interview in the Paris Review. Priceless)
Anything by Capote
March 1st, 2009 at 7:29 pm
I have to disagree on The Da Vinci Code. I loved it. You have to look into why there are so many holes. It was clearly researched and you can tell by looking at any of the paintings mentioned in the book. As for the holes, it is built around faith. And clearly you didn’t read Angels And Demons, or you would like the book for what it was really worth.
March 1st, 2009 at 8:36 pm
733. Preston
I have to disagree with your disagreement. It actually wasn’t well researched or if it was researched, then the research was skimmed rather than perused.
Leonardo da Vinci’s The Last Supper (a tempura on stone and not a fresco as described in the book)… From someone with no knowledge of The Last Supper (both Bible reference and LdV’s work), it is easy to interpret Mary Magdelene as the figure beside Jesus Christ, but LdV has a long history of drawing faces with a bit more of a feminine appearance and St. John has a more youthful (and possibly feminine face) as he is younger than many of those around him. That’s not just an LdV characteristic, but how a number of religious paintings depict him. The disembodied hand was merely an oversight. Sketches and drafts of the work show that the original composition had St. Peter in a different body pose. That hand had actually belonged to him in the original painting.
And Mona Lisa possibly being a self portrait of LdV in drag… art history is already 99% certain that it was a commissioned piece for the wife of Francesco del Giocondo. Sorry to burst the mystery.
At one point in the story, Sophie , being attacked in the Louvre, grabs LdV’s “Madonna on the Rocks” to use as a shield. This is hard to do seeing as the painting is 6 feet tall, painted on a thick plank of wood and most likely attached to an anti-theft device. When installing work roughly of that size and weight, we (I graduated with an art degree and went on to work for a couple artists as well as being heavily involved in art production myself) would need two people to handle the cumbersome beasts. That is the biggest oversight that cemented Brown’s lack of research. Even the most general art textbooks will include dimensions and materials in the captions or footnotes. And considering how many of LdV’s few paintings were involved in this book, Brown should have known most of them were done on wood panels, so unless she’s the Hulk in disguise, Sophie could not have clutched it to the point of bending it as the book describes.
Factual errors aside, I didn’t consider it a literary masterpiece. It rests solely on the cliff-hanger chapter endings to entice people to continue reading and was rather superficial pretending to be something substantial. Not that a light read isn’t good sometimes, but I definitely don’t believe a light read like Da Vinci Code is worth the press conferences, the movie protests, the daily segments on the news stations, etc. I do like how it garnered a popular interest in art and in these “obscure locations” but I also didn’t like that people took it literally and understood these artworks and locations purely basis of his writings, which I stated above are badly researched. Who in their right mind would enjoy being a tour guide at one of these places and say “I’m sorry, no, that is wrong. The historical references in Da Vinci Code did not happen in this location…” over and over again when tourists argue fact and fiction? I’m glad you liked it, but the work was not equal or greater than the hype. According to that equation, it is overrated. Not considering personal preference but rather the quality of writing and the overall scope and influence of the book.
And I did read Angels & Demons, which I thought was better than Da Vinci Code making this (DVC) book even more disappointing.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:53 am
i love this site, it helps me alot on my book report. as you know i live in hong kong, there is no such great english books published here. all i did was buy it from website. and i found great books here…
thank you and love you all^^
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:02 am
haha Twilight sucks.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
DaVinci Code definately deserves to be on this list.Not because of the hype,it was just badly written.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
The Left Hand of Darkness is definitely overrated. It drags along, with lots of “wandering in the snow” scenes. The feminist / gender themes are no longer novel.
I recommend “The Birthday of the World” instead, which is Ursula’s collection of short stories.
March 18th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
How about The Catcher in the Rye? I thought I was gonna read a book about a drunk baseball player but instead I got a book that is super overrated.
March 19th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Honestly, I enjoyed The Da Vinci Code.
March 22nd, 2009 at 7:32 am
You forgot Harry Potter :p
March 26th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
I honesty loved 100 years and DID understood it (keeping notes, of course,)
March 28th, 2009 at 5:57 am
Yes, they are all overated. I think that Twilight should’ve been on here though, it sucked.
March 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I have to disagree about “The Hobbit” being better than the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I read all four books, and I prefer the trilogy by far. Although the trilogy had a lot of subplot and too much poetry for my taste, it was far more enjoyable. The original book annoys me because it had too many characters, only four of whom interested me at all (Gandalf, Bilbo, Bombur, and that main elf, name escapes me), apart from Gollum, and they kept getting pulled out of too many scrapes too easily to make it believeable.
On the other hand, I strongly agree with the top three. They’re way overrated. I know because I’ve read them all. Plus, I don’t like Jane Austen’s novels much in general. The Brontes are good, but I don’t like Austen’s writing style.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
You forgot the bible. I meen have you ever actualy tried to read it?
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
I know its not a novel
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 pm
744. InfeaNO: You forgot the bible. I meen have you ever actualy tried to read it?
745. InfeaNO : I know its not a novel
****
It’s so refreshing when someone who makes a really stupid post, admits it was a really stupid post!
Good going InfeaNO!
April 4th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
What? No “Tess of the D’Urbervilles”?
April 4th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
I loved Davinci Code, but it is so overrated. Angels and Demons is a much better plot and better written. I tried to read Lord of the Rings, and it sucked. So Much!!!
April 5th, 2009 at 1:10 am
you know ok lotr may not be the best read but its not written like a novel lotr is excellent
April 5th, 2009 at 9:16 am
I’m always happy to have another reason not to try Marquez’s novel again: It would be the most overrated on my list. I’ve been reading Fitzgerald lately: Gatsby is OK but certainly overrated; Fitzgerald can craft a wonderful sentence, but his characterization is often so vague–he shows us his characters through a fog.
But why in the world is Dan Brown on this list? The others on the list are literary (Tolkien is borderline) and have been praised by critics; Brown’s book is trash, and obviously so.
That said, thanks for the list: definitely cathartic.
April 5th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Sorry. Upon closer examination, I see that you already acknowledged what I said about Dan Brown.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:08 am
I have to strongly disagree with entry #6. This is one of my all-time favorite novels. I will agree that it is not an easy read, but it is well worth it.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
TWILIGHT SHOULD SO BE UP THERE.
WHY AGAIN IS THAT…???…I mean it stinks and digusts the most normal of people…..I really think …it’s existence is sooo…tormenting.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
I find it pretty interesting that a fiction novel is up on the list as overrated, because the facts don’t line up. IT’S A FICTION NOVEL!!!!! How can you call something overrated, because it is loved by the people and the facts don’t line up….if it’s FICTION! Also, just because you can’t make it through the first couple of chapters in a book doesn’t mean that it is overrated…I think it just means you have a short attention span. This list is ridiculous, it would be like calling fast food chains overrated because their food is good and the food is bad for you. Foolish.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
754. Studizzle4mob : That’s all assuming you’re naive enough to actually think that Dan meant that whole book to be fictional…
April 21st, 2009 at 7:07 am
19. Carrie lynn -
“The Catcher in the Rye. I remember reading in a magazine that it changed peoples lives. Lmao!”
You’ve got to be kidding me… Three words: MARK DAVID CHAPMAN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_David_Chapman
The Great Gatsby was a great read for me; I’m disappointed to see it on the list but I believe that is because most people don’t understand Daisy and her husband having the same ego causing them to conflict with each other and cheat on each other, but only damaging and ruining others’ lives, not their own, and why that is, is explained in the very last sentence:
“Gatsby believed in the green light, the orgastic future that year by year recedes before us. It eluded us then, but that’s no matter—to-morrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms farther. . . . And one fine morning——
So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.”
The people existing in the past are Daisy and her husband, and if you read the book, Gatsby is too, but his ego and attitude is quite different.
But seriously Dickens needs to be on here, specifically Great Expectations. Along with most of his stuff it was released in installments and was never really a book itself, and he even changed the ending at the slightest suggestion from a friend. He obviously did not care for his stories as much as other writers have.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:11 am
And as a great Bradbury fan, I had fun burning Twilight…
Along with I am Legend…. DVD cases don’t burn well….
Both are horrible….
April 24th, 2009 at 1:32 am
most are just too lazy to read Garcia-Marquez, who is a fantastic writer. his stories are full of local color, some history, magic, and a lot of understated themes and emotions.
and oh, twilight sucks.
April 28th, 2009 at 10:22 am
having read 100 nights of solitude, the great gatsby and wuthering heights i can tell you that only the middle is overrated. to refer to wuthering heights as overrated is the most foolish thing a person can do and sugests that the author of the list has yet to read it. as for the allegation that it is badly structured therte is no possible argument for that being th case; the narrative structure is the most remarkable thing about the book, and without it some of the greatest books ever written would not have been.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
I loved Wuthering Heights and The Great Gatsby. I don’t classify The Da Vinci Code as literature. Just modern suspenseful junk (and I love me so good modern suspensful junk). I do agree with Emma and Atlas Shrugged, though.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Greetings! The list was fun, and I’ll add three to the list, and point out three of those listed, on each of which I disagree with our Web site author’s analysis:
1) _The Catcher in the Rye_ (redundant in language; banal in tone; features a sniffly, annoying child, wandering somewhere; could the author overuse his pet vocab term any more than he did?)
In that one, only the paragraph about the little brother, “catcher in the rye”, was mentionable in any favourable sense. I hated it in junior high, then read it again 6 years ago to see if I could give it another fair shake, but equally hated it then. What is this rag?
2) Anything by the Harry Potter lady or Toni Morrison
3) Twilight series, actually, isn’t considered “literature”, per se, is it? Is it?
Especially agreed with you on _White Noise_ AND _Underworld_ [only pompous-ass professors, who hate America, love this author; it's predictable, trite stuff, written in fancy fluff to give the initiated (fellow socialists) some reason to puff up his scrawlings].
DISAGREED with you on the following three:
1) _The Great Gatsby_ (spectacular work; one of the greatest ever, and among the 3 best of the 20th Century)
2) _One Hundred Years of Solitude_ (some cultural understanding is lost in translation, perhaps—and it’s more easily comprehended by those raised with an appreciation for that culture)
3) _Atlas Shrugged_ (this book is not meant to preach morality, but to enlighten us to the evils of rampant passion for totalitarianism or excesses of socialism—provides a caveat to those who do not yet fathom the danger of giving away hard-won freedoms—a more important work in 2009 than it ever was!)
April 28th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Actually, _Wuthering Heights_ is also a blessing to read. Not in my Top 50, but definitely valuable. Only “overrated” if someone says it’s the greatest example of perfect fiction, to the exclusion of some fine works.
April 29th, 2009 at 6:22 am
I didn’t read all the comments, but I believe that this list should have included Great Expectations. And not just for the pun that it was not all that it was worked up to be, but for the fact that its so long and drawn out that it made me want to hang myself.
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:39 am
twilight. i mean, i liked the book. i read it before the whole phenomenon (which is seriously on my last nerve). but now it’s completely overrated.
anddd, i agree on the catcher in the rye with someone. holden complains SOO much. he needs to get over himself already… you have to be in a certain mood or place in your life to actually enjoy the book, i guess.
May 3rd, 2009 at 5:22 am
Twilight(my least favourite thing on the planet), catcher in the rye..and as soon as i saw this list my first thought was ‘the great gatsby’.so overrated.
May 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I like Twilight-but it is definitely overrated.
And a note about book 4-a good book doesn’t necesarily have to include a main character you can empathize with. Read Stephen Donaldson’s Thomas Covenant saga.
May 3rd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
I would say that The Catcher in The Rye isn’t really over rated it’s a really good book and creates a terrific character archetype and works as one of the best books in the Künstlerroman genre.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Wow, worst list ever on this website. I mean, The Great Gatsby!? Easily one of the greatest books ever written.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:35 am
i agree with twilight and harry potter….really overrated. another book that i find overrated is the purpose driven life. so popular here in the phils.
May 7th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
“Some books are horribly dated, badly structured, and not even all ground breaking books are well written. Many argue that “Wuthering Heights” is guilty of all three literary sins, and this novel’s extremely high place in the literary canon makes it number two on the overrated list.”
Kay. So if you crack open the book, you can see that neither is WH “horribly dated”, nor “badly structured” or “badly written”.
In relation to the “badly structured” argument – WH has the most complex narrative structure of all. The story is framed first by Lockwood’s outside interpretation of the people who live in the moors, then Ellen’s domestic way of life (which explains the sublimation of nature for a major part of Wuthering Heights). In Ellen’s view, monologues of other characters are evident which indicate a shift in narrative point of view. It gives you a more rounded view of the characters, altering your perception of them with each narrative so that your opinion of the character is objective – not based on the interpretation of the protagonist. The narrative is not “badly structured” at all. If you look – it is quite organized.
I’m not even going to bother refuting “badly written”. Bronte’s ‘I am Heathcliff’ scene is full of a passion that is hardly evident in books today. Her prose is magnificient, if somewhat archaic.
As for being “horribly outdated”, the behaviour of Catherine (the first one) can be observed in a) people with personality disorders and b) teens who adopt different personas when hanging around different cliques.
So, I can’t see how Wuthering Heights is over-rated. It is a fantastic, complex book that deserrves praise.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Can somebody please move the list and put Twilight on number one.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Twilight is not a highly rated novel.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:46 am
I was just explaining to my brother how much the great Gatsby sucks! thanks for backing me up!
May 10th, 2009 at 12:49 am
DAMN YOU STEPHANIE MYER!!!!!
May 14th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
One Hundred Years of Solitude
The language is the key to appreciate this novel. Not better or worst, it is just different than English… not that there’s anything wrong with that!
May 18th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
I am not sure if 100 Years of Solitude is overrated, but I don’t think so. Is it unreadable? I found it to be an immensely enjoyable read. Then again, I enjoyed many of the novels I read in high school, including both Wuthering Heights and The Great Gatsby.
675. I read Crying of Lot 49 also and was quite unimpressed. I also tried reading V and never finished.
May 18th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
I am not sure if 100 Years of Solitude is overrated, but I don’t think so. Is it unreadable? I found it to be an immensely enjoyable read. Then again, I enjoyed many of the novels I read in high school, including both Wuthering Heights and The Great Gatsby.
675. I read Crying of Lot 49 also and was quite unimpressed. I also tried reading V and never finished.
May 19th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Carrie Lynn: I agree with you, Catcher in the Rye should have been number 1 on this list in my opinion…perhaps if I had read as a angsty teenage boy I would have responded better to it
as for Harry Potter and Twilight, can books written for children/young adults really be subject to this list? I don’t think that they can be judged by the same standard. I think any book that gets kids reading in a video saturated society deserves all the praise it can get
May 19th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Carrie Lynn: I agree with you, Catcher in the Rye should have been number 1 on this list in my opinion…perhaps if I had read as a angsty teenage boy I would have responded better to it
as for Harry Potter and Twilight, can books written for children/young adults really be subject to this list? I don’t think that they can be judged by the same standard. I think any book that gets kids reading in a video saturated society deserves all the praise it can get
May 19th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
perhaps you need to do a list of overrated children’s literature for all the Twilight/Harry Potter bashers…..then again the possiblity of seeing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe on a overrated list breaks my heart. I can just see the comments now…..”Jfrater-I can’t believe you didn’t put Green Eggs and Ham on this this! Seuss, what a hack!”
May 19th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
perhaps you need to do a list of overrated children’s literature for all the Twilight/Harry Potter bashers…..then again the possiblity of seeing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe on a overrated list breaks my heart. I can just see the comments now…..”Jfrater-I can’t believe you didn’t put Green Eggs and Ham on this this! Seuss, what a hack!”
May 19th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Catcher in the rye is in no way over rated. It’s worth every second you spend reading it and every word of praise written for it falls short.
May 19th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Catcher in the rye is in no way over rated. It’s worth every second you spend reading it and every word of praise written for it falls short.
May 19th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
I happen to like a couple of them(LOTR and Wuthering Heights mostly) but i do think they are all over rated :/
May 19th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
I happen to like a couple of them(LOTR and Wuthering Heights mostly) but i do think they are all over rated :/
May 19th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
CowzRppl2- like some others have said already, I think I read the Catcher in the Rye too late in life and would have enjoyed it more if I was male I suspect. I just couldn’t empathize with the guy
I think people are confusing overrated with bad, I definitely think all of these books have been critiqued and academically fellatiated a little too much which unfortunately can take some of the joy out of reading them…..and having to pick apart a book in school, especially highschool never helps…I’ll never really know if I liked the Grapes of Wrath…
May 19th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
CowzRppl2- like some others have said already, I think I read the Catcher in the Rye too late in life and would have enjoyed it more if I was male I suspect. I just couldn’t empathize with the guy
I think people are confusing overrated with bad, I definitely think all of these books have been critiqued and academically fellatiated a little too much which unfortunately can take some of the joy out of reading them…..and having to pick apart a book in school, especially highschool never helps…I’ll never really know if I liked the Grapes of Wrath…
May 28th, 2009 at 5:40 am
c’mon! hundred years of solitude is easy to follow if you pay attention!
May 28th, 2009 at 5:40 am
c’mon! hundred years of solitude is easy to follow if you pay attention!
June 1st, 2009 at 3:14 pm
How could you possibly leave out “Ulysses”? It is far more over-rated in literature than Picasso is in art and Dylan is in music.
June 2nd, 2009 at 6:27 am
The Red Badge Of Courage needs to be on this list. My kids are being forced to read it now. Only a lit major could love this book.
June 7th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
AT LAST! Someone who thinks Emma is overrated! I had to argue this point at school and it didn’t end well, thanks for the back up.
June 9th, 2009 at 7:52 am
I loved Emma but I agree that it’s a sorta old-fashioned, glorified version of chick-lit. Andand WHY IS TWILIGHT NOT ON THIS LIST WHY? Is it so bad that it doesn’t deserve to be a novel? XD or maybe cuz it’s only highly-rated by those who don’t matter in the literary world (ie tweens and teenagers.)
June 11th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
i read around 10 comments and someone was saying twilight was a overated novel;fact:it was mainstream but i thought it was compelling and was successful for its miraculous beauty that was design to witness a girl’s thoughts and her struggles,as a boy i look at girls as a treasure that was hard to get, which has alot of ressemblance to the great gatsby(whom you put number 2) I TRULY do not think gatsby would be number 2 or any number for any list for overated novels because it had a strong point in the story (old money and new money cliques)it shows how much a man would do to live the american dream(nothing to something)and in the end he wasn’t happy when he had riches because he didnt had her prize possession:Daisy(his love). i think the reason why the person who put this as number 2 because he did not “fully” understand the meaning of the book and for that its okay because i dont think all would, it would been understandable if you understood the setting of time and place and characters. i defend this book because it changed me so much to the point where a bum could rise up to rags to riches.given thought your list was ok,lack alot of explanation besides resources of who rated the novel(books will not be overated if it deserves the recognition)that will be all.
June 21st, 2009 at 8:01 pm
I totally agree with the list especially the novel Emma, I couldn’t finish the novel it was so boring. Twilight should be added on the list too.
July 12th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
“Twilight,” Is much overrated light summer reading for teenage girls, and the fact that you couldn’t see that is far too disappointing
Here is the great problem with your post…
There are a large number of people who make the mistake you made, that is to see things that are well rated, and find them to be overrated for that fact . It is a very childish thing as I see it, and it rather bothers me.
Also, you don’t realize the true value in great books
The Lord of the rings is very deep in character development, as well as a fantastic writing style. Many people have trouble getting over the fact that the writing is difficult for many in this day in age, and some people these days won’t take the time to read good writing. I must point out the character development which you so thoughtlessly call nothing happening.
You didn’t, however, include Huckleberry Finn upon this list, which it should have been. I found the first person to be very unnecessary, and a poor excuse for a stumbling block in reading it all. Then again, it did have good characters, perhaps it is just a matter of how important style is. I felt some characters went undeveloped. This book I can see being off the list, with a few minor forgivnesses.
I hope you learn to realize the difference between overrated, and well-rated. Some people just have trouble distinguishing it.
Novels have quite a unique way to themselves, and each one is meant to be read as its own novel, not simply by your single standards, which seem to have no truly good rhyme or reason, and overlook all reason. Each book is its own. Don’t underestimate it.
Books aren’t always about being exciting.
SOME books have good points and stories to get across, and those are what you seem to see as overrated.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:44 am
LOL! Looks like we busted that 200 comments thingy a while back there, bucko! LOL! Better get clattering away at the keyboard to see if they’ll provide the List Maker with a few more items! LOL!
J/K! Congrat!
July 19th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Can this list me renamed “Ten books that I, a singlular man, do not like?”
I hate to play the “you just don’t understand them” card, but come on, Fitzgerald?Austen?Bronte?
You just don’t understand them.
July 19th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
The Great Gatsby is criminally underrated, as is the case with all F.Scott Fitzgerald’s work.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Twilight.
Please, oh please, will someone shoot every teen mind raping about Edward!
July 20th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Mimi – Agreed!
July 25th, 2009 at 6:17 am
I agree with some novels on the list.
Specially with Gabriel Garcia Marquez, most of his works are just plain ”telenovela” dullness ( I know, I know, latinos deserves their heroes too) Im a proud carribean spic or latino but not a wetbag or beaner and I enjoy using racial slurs. I understand completely his cultural background but I read many of his work since I was in grade school until college…teachers and profesors are killing many students in my country with this old boring man. I’ve been reading and re-reading his work for a long time and im indeed very sick and tired of him.
Jane Austen is still keeping girls and women around the world in Preetyland and her works are definitely horrible empty chick lit. She’s the mother of what is called chick lit, so if the name bothers you, blame it on her.
Dan Brown?…does not even deserve going to the toilet,you could fall asleep while taking a crap. Still I can feel a bit grateful for making many christians go nuts for a boring book.
The Lord of the Rings (geek bible) pages and pages of description. fewer words can also do the job (the story kind of good but the paperwork kills it.
Hey you forgot Harry Potter! somebody please stop the J.K. Rowling woman. I hope that no cancer child ask her when she is finished with Harry- What’s Harry’s adult life’s like? (because the blody J.K. Rowling woman WILL write it all over on 10 more books) The same goes for Twilight, teen goth and emo kids need to please stop humping vampires.
The others are indeed fun reads, but out there are many, many,many great authors and the most fun comes from descovering them.
Apart from bashing Lord of the Rings,Harry Potter and Twilight, I think is great that many kids and teens are reading more and that is a awesome.
Sorry for being a racist asshole.
August 4th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
What, no Twilight?
August 8th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
you forgot twilight
August 9th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
where the hell is twilight?!?!? That is the #1 over rated book in history!
August 28th, 2009 at 8:25 am
What about “A Catcher in the Rye”
August 29th, 2009 at 7:49 am
actual overrated books are harry potter, twilight, da vinci code, atlas shrugged,alchemist and stephen king dn knw how to write, poor john grisham is history for good.
catcher in the rye and hundred years of solitude are few of the greatest works. cant you see the hard work behind these two. patterson should start writing nursery rymes and children literature.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
I found A Clockwork Orange a bit overrated. Very difficult book to read due to the unfamiliar vocab’ throughout. Perhaps this has swayed my decision.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Atlas Shrugged is no just overrated it is simply put HORRIBLE.
September 14th, 2009 at 3:19 am
what about harry potter?
it sucks big time!
September 15th, 2009 at 11:47 am
I haven’t read LOTR, but I really enjoyed the films. I found that Emma and A Passage To India were both good reads. Now, about Wuthering Heights, I have to disagree completely. It’s one of my favorite books.
September 17th, 2009 at 3:33 am
“A Passage to India,” the professor’s favorite novel, was assigned to my MA/English Lit class. Every week a different book was discussed. We were all amazed to discover that not one student in the class of 40 had read the book. I tried over and over but it was so boring I kept falling asleep. The prof was outraged but instead of blaming the book, blamed the 40 graduate level students. This happened in 1977. Finally, 32 years later, validation. Thanks!
September 18th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
I think “Moby Dick” would probably be my number #1 choice. And then any from the spate of the ‘political correct’ yet literary minor “mastreworks’ like “To Kill a Mockingbird” or any such piece of talentless drivel.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
I HATED “Emma” I tried to read it numerous times and just couldn’t do it, and “Wuthering Heights” was one of the biggest wastes of summer months that I had in high school. That stupid book almost caused me to get into fist fights with students and English teachers alike because I refused to see what a great book it was.
I also agree with “A Confederacy of Dunces” being on the list, what an awful character. That being said’ “She’s Come Undone” by Wally Lamb should be on the list. A critically acclaimed book with an equally unlikeable “hero”. People have said that it’s amazing that the book was written by a man, because his portrayal of an adolescent girl is so amazing. Oh, please.
On another note: I’ve tried to read “Picture of Dorian Gray” (Wilde) several times but I can’t make it past chapter four.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Totally agree with Emma, but White Noise and 100 Years of Solitude??? Those are works of genius.
September 24th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Funny, you offer criticism for every book except the Ayn Rand piece of shit. It isn’t literature, it isn’t philosophy, it’s just shit. Generating a thousand pages of random would easily best it. Also, Gatsby? Philistine.
September 26th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
I love LOTR, however I agree it is a bit over rated, and I tend to skim over the boring parts (including half of the two towers). I tried to read Emma once, but I gave up after the first chapter, so I wouldn’t know if it gets any better.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:41 am
The Great Gatsby should be at no. 1, but One Hundred Years of Solitude should not be on this list. That beautiful novel reads like a dream. It shouldn’t be judged on terms applied to “realism.”
October 13th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I really wished that 100 years of Solitude and something from DeDildo are mentioned before I read this. Great list!
October 13th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
If having to have a helper text to understand the main text is your reason for number 6 then shouldn’t Finnegan’s Wake by Joyce be on here? It’s virtually impossible to get through.
October 14th, 2009 at 12:49 am
This has probably been said at least a hundred times by now, but I can’t bring myself to read through all the 800+ comments before mine:
WHERE’S TWILIGHT ON THIS LIST?
I simply don’t get the hype over it at all. The protagonist has no spine. And if one more girl friend of mine gushes over Edward or Jacob again, I shall scream.
October 14th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
I humbly submit that I was relieved to see White Noise on this list. In college, I went through a professor-induced period of infatuation with his work. But in my adult years when my tastes have become my own, and I no longer subscribe to liking something purely because most people have never heard of it, or some douchbag hipster said something off color about it once, I have realized a few things about Don DeLillo. He is not a writer. He is nothing but a hack philosopher who churns out the same character over and over as a mouthpiece for his random and warped ideas about how the world should be. I have few regrets in life except the time I spent passionately discussing White Noise and the countless recommendations I made of that swill. Thank you for adding this to your list.
October 28th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
First of all Twilight is nothing but a dream world but it is enjoyable Im sure everyone smashing it on her has never actually read it, it is captivating regardless of what you think of the unnecessary popularity of it.
Also,
I see that there are over 800 other comments her but I felt compelled to give my opinion on this list I was so disturbed by it! The Great Gatsby and Wuthering Heights are not only my two favorite books but have been regarded by those who have much more experience in making a judgement then the person responsible for this page, as two of the greatest novels ever written. This is shown on every top 100 list. I think it is utterly rediculous for someone to degrade two works such as these when they have in no way earned the right to make such assumptions. Just because some have difficulty reading and understanding them doesn’t make them any less great.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Whoever wrote his list must be a highly credible, scholarly bibliophile. Or someone in dire need of imagination.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
*this*
October 31st, 2009 at 11:55 am
“pillars of the earth” -ken follett. by far one of the worst books i have ever read. also, I agree with the person who put “anna karenina” on the list. i have never despised a main character so much in my life. the entire 1000+ pages i kept rooting for her to kill herself. the political passages where far too boring as well.
November 4th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I must have had a mind-meld with the author of this page. I completely agree on almost all counts. I have read most of these and wondered why they were so revered. I have never understood why anyone would consider The Great Gatsby great. Boring tripe. Same for a Passage to India and White Noise. I actually liked the Confederacy of Dunces, but agree it is just an OK. After reading Umberto Eco, I will not even deign to read Dan Brown. Great list. Thanks.
November 4th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Anna Karenina was horrible. What a self-absorbed baby. I am currently War and Peace and loving it. Hard to believe it is same author.
November 4th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
@Nostromo (827):
You. Are. Wrong. Anna Karenina is a flawless masterpiece. I know it’s your opinion, so you can’t be wrong and all of that nonsense but um….yeah….you’re wrong.
November 4th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
archiealt (828)
I’ve been wrong before – I want to like A.K. But to me this was a tedious tale of a spoiled woman who kills herself because she is not happily married. That fits millions of people, but they’re pressing on. What am i missing?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
(I can’t remember if I’ve commented yet) I read a lot of books, and always aim towards “the classics,” but Jane Austen is completely unreadable.
November 11th, 2009 at 11:22 am
I’d say the Bible beeats them all by a long shot. It is hundreds of pages of repetitive verses and morals that don’t make sense, and yet their fan club has infested the world.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:06 am
I’d nominate On the Road and Finnegan’s Wake.
On the Road is poorly written and self-indulgent which may be the point, but it’s not nearly as great as people hold it out to be.
Finnegan’s Wake I think is overrated because it is completely unreadable without serious research. It’s obvious that Joyce crafted each world individually to fit together just right, but he encoded the meaning so deep that it’s more like an archaeological dig than an entertaining read.