A week ago I removed a list (something I very seldom do) which had caused quite a stir; it was a list of the most powerful families. This new list is designed to replace the original and to give a broader view of some of the most powerful historic families while not excluding royal houses (who dominate this list as one would expect). Let us hope this is received better than the original (which I should add, was not without its merits).
The Rothschild family (often referred to simply as the Rothschilds), is an international banking and finance dynasty of German Jewish origin that established operations across Europe, and was ennobled by the Austrian and British governments. The family’s rise to international prominence began with Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744–1812 – pictured above), whose strategy for future success was to keep control of their businesses in family hands, allowing them to maintain full discretion about the size of their wealth and their business achievements. Mayer Rothschild successfully kept the fortune in the family with carefully arranged marriages between closely related family members. Nathan Mayer Rothschild started his London business, N. M. Rothschild and Sons in 1811 at New Court in St Swithin’s Lane, City of London, where it still trades today. In 1818, he arranged a £5 million loan to the Prussian government, and the issuing of bonds for government loans formed a mainstay of his bank’s business. He gained a position of such power in the City of London that by 1825–6 he was able to supply enough coin to the Bank of England to enable it to avert a market liquidity crisis.
In the toss-up between including the Plantagenets or the Tudors, the Plantagenet’s won because much of the development of the English culture and political system (which remains to this day) arose under their rule. Under the Tudors, the Church of England was formed and some say a golden age occurred, but the significance of the Plantagenet line is far greater (and furthermore, Henry VIII was descended matrilineally from the Plantagenet family anyway). The House of Plantagenet was a royal house founded by Henry II of England, son of Geoffrey V of Anjou. The Plantagenet kings first ruled the Kingdom of England in the 12th century. In total, fifteen Plantagenet monarchs, including those belonging to cadet branches, ruled England from 1154 until 1485. A distinctive English culture and art emerged during the Plantagenet era, encouraged by some of the monarchs who were patrons of the “father of English poetry”; Geoffrey Chaucer. The Gothic architecture style was popular during the time, with buildings such as the Westminster Abbey and York Minster remodeled in that style. There was also lasting developments in the social sector, such as John I of England’s signing of the Magna Carta (pictured above). This was influential in the development of common law and constitutional law. Political institutions such as the Parliament of England and the Model Parliament originate from the Plantagenet period, as do educational institutions including the University of Cambridge and Oxford.
The Nehru-Feroz Gandhi family is an Indian political family which has been dominant in the Indian National Congress for most of India’s early independent history. Three members of the family (Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, his daughter Indira Gandhi and her son Rajiv Gandhi) have been Prime Minister of India, two of whom (Indira and Rajiv Gandhi) have been assassinated. A fourth member of the family, Sonia Gandhi, is currently Congress President, while her and Rajiv’s son, Rahul Gandhi, is the youngest member of the family to enter active politics when he contested and won a seat in the lower house of the Parliament of India in 2004. The Nehru-Feroz Gandhi family is not related to Indian independence leader Mohandas Gandhi. The Nehru-Gandhis are the most prominent example of the tradition of dynastic leadership in Asian democratic countries.
Genghis Khan (pictured above) was the founder, Khan (ruler) and Khagan (emperor) of the Mongol Empire, the largest contiguous empire in history.
He came to power by uniting many of the nomadic tribes of northeast Asia. After founding the Mongol Empire and being proclaimed “Genghis Khan”, he started the Mongol invasions and raids of the Kara-Khitan Khanate, Caucasus, Khwarezmid Empire, Western Xia and Jin dynasties. During his life, the Mongol Empire eventually occupied a substantial portion of Central Asia. Before Genghis Khan died, he assigned Ogedei Khan as his successor and split his empire into khanates among his sons and grandsons. He died in 1227 after defeating the Tanguts. He was buried in an unmarked grave somewhere in Mongolia at a location unknown. His descendants went on to stretch the Mongol Empire across most of Eurasia by conquering and/or creating vassal states out of all of modern-day China, Korea, the Caucasus, Central Asian countries, and substantial portions of modern Eastern Europe and the Middle East.
These two families are combined in one item as they were two of the most important families in Ancient Rome and eventually joined together to form the Julio-Claudian Dynasty that provided the most famous emperors: Caligula, Augustus (pictured above), Claudius, Tiberius, and Nero. These five emperors ruled the Roman Empire from 27 BC to AD 68, when the last of the line, Nero, committed suicide. These five rulers were linked through marriage and adoption into the familial gens Julio and gens Claudia. Julius Caesar is sometimes inaccurately seen as its founder, although he was not an emperor and had no Claudian connections; Augustus is the more widely accepted founder. The reigns of the Julian-Claudian emperors bear some similar traits: All came to power through indirect or adopted relations. Each expanded the territory of the Roman Empire and initiated massive construction projects. They were generally loved by the common people, but were resented by the senatorial class – a sentiment reflected by ancient historians. Ancient historians describe the Julio-Claudians as self-aggrandizing, mad, sexually perverse and tyrannical.
“Zhu” was the family name of the emperors of the Ming Dynasty. The first Ming Emperor, Hongwu (Zhu Yuanzhang – pictured above) opted to use the name Ming for the dynastic name. Ming means “Brilliant”. The Ming Dynasty was the ruling dynasty of China from 1368 to 1644, following the collapse of the Mongol-led Yuan Dynasty. The Ming, “one of the greatest eras of orderly government and social stability in human history,” was the last dynasty in China ruled by ethnic Hans. Although the Ming capital Beijing fell in 1644 to a rebellion led by Li Zicheng, which was itself soon replaced by the Manchu-led Qing Dynasty (the last Chinese imperial family), regimes loyal to the Ming throne (collectively called the Southern Ming) survived until 1662. Ming rule saw the construction of a vast navy and a standing army of one million troops. There were enormous construction projects, including the restoration of the Grand Canal and the Great Wall and the establishment of the Forbidden City in Beijing during the first quarter of the 15th century. Estimates for the late-Ming population vary from 160 to 200 million. The Ming dynasty is often regarded as both a high point in Chinese civilization as well as a dynasty in which early signs of capitalism emerged.
The House of Habsburg was an important royal house of Europe and is best known as supplying all of the formally elected Holy Roman Emperors between 1452 and 1740, as well as rulers of Spain and the Austrian Empire. Originally from Switzerland, the dynasty first reigned in Austria, which they ruled for over six centuries, but a series of dynastic marriages brought Burgundy, Spain, Bohemia, Hungary and other territories into the inheritance. The dynasty is named after their seat of origin, the Habsburg Castle in the Swiss Canton of Aargau. The dynasty’s motto is “Let others wage wars, but you, happy Austria, shall marry”, which indicates the talent of the Habsburgs to have their members intermarry into other royal houses, to make alliances and inherit territory. Empress Maria Theresa (pictured above) is recognized quite notably for it and is sometimes referred to as the ‘Great-Grandmother of Europe’.
The Ptolemaic dynasty was a Hellenistic Macedonian royal family which ruled the Ptolemaic Empire in Egypt for nearly 300 years, from 305 BC to 30 BC. Ptolemy, one of the seven bodyguards who served as Alexander the Great’s generals and deputies, was appointed satrap of Egypt after Alexander’s death in 323 BC. In 305 BC, he declared himself King Ptolemy I, later known as “Soter” (saviour). The Egyptians soon accepted the Ptolemies as the successors to the pharaohs of independent Egypt. Ptolemy’s family ruled Egypt until the Roman conquest of 30 BC. The most famous member of the line was the last queen, Cleopatra VII (pictured above), known for her role in the Roman political battles between Julius Caesar and Pompey, and later between Octavian and Mark Antony. Her suicide at the conquest by Rome marked the end of Ptolemaic rule in Egypt.
The Mèdici family was a powerful and influential Florentine family from the 13th to 17th century. The family had three popes (Leo X – pictured above, Clement VII, and Leo XI), numerous rulers of Florence (notably Lorenzo the Magnificent, patron of some of the most famous works of Renaissance art) and later members of the French and English royalty. Like other signore families they dominated their city’s government. They were able to bring Florence under their family’s power, allowing for an environment where art and humanism could flourish. They led the birth of the Italian Renaissance along with the other great signore families of Italy such as the Visconti and Sforza families of Milan, the Este of Ferrara, and the Gonzaga of Mantua. The Medici Bank was one of the most prosperous and most respected in Europe. There are some estimates that the Medici family were for a period of time the wealthiest family in Europe. From this base, they acquired political power initially in Florence and later in wider Italy and Europe.
The Capetian dynasty is the largest European royal house. It includes any of the direct descendants of Hugh Capet of France. King Juan Carlos of Spain and Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg are members of this family, both through the Bourbon branch of the dynasty. Over the course of the preceding centuries, Capetians spread throughout Europe, ruling every form of provincial unit from kingdoms to manors. Besides being the most numerous royal family in Europe, it also is one of the most incestuous, especially in the Spanish Monarchy. Many years have passed since the Capetian monarchs ruled a large part of Europe, however they still remain as kings, as well as other titles. Currently two Capetian monarchs still rule in Spain and Luxembourg. In addition, seven pretenders represent exiled dynastic monarchies in Brazil, France, Spain, Portugal, Parma and Two Sicilies. The current legitimate senior family member is Louis Alfonso (pictured above), the Duke of Anjou, who also holds the Legitimist claim to the French throne. Overall, dozens of branches of the Capetian dynasty still exist throughout Europe.
Notable Omissions: Merovingians, Qin family, Bhutto family, Tudors, Romanovs, Stuarts, House of Orange, Berenguer family, Kennedy family, Vanderbilt family
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Contributor: JFrater






















February 15th, 2009 at 1:38 am
Interesting list. Lots of things I didn’t know about these people.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:43 am
I had never heard of the Habsburgs before. I just wanted to mention that I love this site, I spend mucho time wondering around the archives list.
I’m surprised you did not mention the Rockefellers (spell?).
February 15th, 2009 at 1:47 am
No, monjoriser, you’re not first!
Interesting… I’d still definitely put the Medici in at #1, purely for the massive influence they had over such a long period. But the Capetians have no doubt been very influential too.
Good list.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:54 am
hmm. wouldve gone with the rockefellers instead of rothschild.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:55 am
lol just reaalized esbravo thought the same thing.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:55 am
Love it, even though I hardly recognized any of them. Keep up the good work.
February 15th, 2009 at 2:16 am
What an improvement, not that I care, I only come here for the arguments
February 15th, 2009 at 2:18 am
Someone has to say it. Too many Americans on this list
February 15th, 2009 at 2:22 am
What about the Baldwins?
February 15th, 2009 at 2:30 am
Okay – I chose the Rothschilds because they saved England from collapse and were all eventually ennobled
February 15th, 2009 at 2:37 am
any reason why the Zhu family of the Ming Dynasty was chosen? why not the Liu family of the Han Dynasty, the Li family of the Tang Dynasty or the Aisin Gioro clan of the Qing dynasty? all of them were significant and powerful in their own ways, and I would even say those 3 dynasties were all arguably greater than the Ming period.
also, not to beat the point to death, but c’mon the Rockefellers at least deserve a notable omission, especially if you put the Vanderbilts under there
February 15th, 2009 at 2:58 am
Glad you listened to me about the Ptolemys
I guess the “poweful families” idea can get dangerous unless you set strict parameters- certain kinds of power, certain points in history and certain parts of the world. Otherwise it just gets overwhelming and important people wind up excluded.
February 15th, 2009 at 2:59 am
A considerable improvement on the original. Arguments could be made for placing the families in different orders, or for excluding some and including others, but generally any such list is going to include most or all of these.
The Church of England was formed probably in the 2nd century AD by persons unknown, probably Roman soldiers or Irish and Iberian traders.
February 15th, 2009 at 3:02 am
What about the williams family
venus and serena are very powerfull and their dad has a nice camera.
February 15th, 2009 at 3:06 am
Genetic guns on the list, g, but why no Baldwins yo?
February 15th, 2009 at 3:09 am
what was wrong with the old one??
February 15th, 2009 at 3:09 am
Blinded guns on the list, g – didn’t see el commento numero 9-o yo, so why no Brontes yo?
February 15th, 2009 at 3:13 am
I still think the Medici’s should be number one though, but otherwise great list, dont see what was wrong with the original
February 15th, 2009 at 3:21 am
I’m glad to see a more accurate a decent list. I was one of the many who wasn’t happy with the “Americanised” old list full of Presidential families. This one made for a much more interesting, and truly historically important list of families.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:04 am
3)
Egypt lost its independence long before 30bc
But the List is way better now!
February 15th, 2009 at 4:04 am
Jamie, this is a great list and I agree with you and the order you put them in. Thank you for the “do-over”, even as an American I hated the other one (even though I didn’t comment on it, there were enough comments). Keep up the good work, you are a very good host.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:11 am
Excellent list! A massive improvement…
February 15th, 2009 at 4:35 am
Oh come on!!! This list sux without the Spears Family!! Jamie Lynn….ah hello…perhaps no one here has heard of a certain shaker and mover named Britney?????
Whatev….
February 15th, 2009 at 4:45 am
I hadn’t read the last one (or any, for a while. Things have been strange around here…), but it seems sad to me, having to remove it. You could have noted the list had been done over. Maybe make this a take two. I really don’t know how bad the last list was, but it seems a shame to go deleting entire paragraphs, especially since the damage is already done.
Nonetheless, fascinating list. I have one of these families lurking in my tree, but we haven’t inherited any power (only a couple pieces of art). I wouldn’t be surprised if there were genes floating everywhere with all sorts of historical figures. Just look at the Mormons. You’re surname doesn’t have to be Young, more than likely it’s in there.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:54 am
The Rothschild’s bought into Tring in Hertfordshire, Baron Rothschild was an avid adventurer and explorer, and had all the animals shipped back to the town. They eventually opened the park and museum to showcase the stuffed animals such as a Dodo and other rare species.
The Glis Glis, a small rodent, escaped into the local park and made it its home. The Baron used to ride around the town in a carriage pulled by Zebras, hence the town’s link with the Zebra in general.
I grew up there, see.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:49 am
I love this list! The order here doesn’t mean as much as it could on some lists because of different epochs, but you did a pretty good job.
Including the Rothschilds was a nice touch. People often forget this family that continues to have influence today. The fact that it is a Jewish family that came to such prominence in the face of antisemitism is amazing.
I’ve always found the Habsburgs, Plantagenets, Julian-Claudians, Khans, Zhus, & Medicis fascinating.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Louis Alfonso and his wife are just adorable!
February 15th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Awesome list J…This list is much much better. Informative, interesting, and intriguing – like any other list. Thank you very much.
Any reason why the moguls were not included? Moguls ruled the Indian subcontinent for the better part of 20th century, built monuments like the Taj Mahal, were instumental in resisting the systematic British colonization, and well, gave us the metaphor – ‘mogul’.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Excellent, Jamie. Bravo and thank you.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:54 am
What about the Hohenzollern family of Prussia?
February 15th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Excellent list although I might be inclined to place the Romanovs in the top ten. That would make it an even better list because when most lists go only to 10, it would have the extra spot that would take it to 11! Like when you need that extra push, you crank it up one more notch.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:11 am
I think this topic is to subjective; the word “powerful” can mean so many things to so many people. Does “powerful” mean “good” or “bad”, or a mixture of both?
So here is the question: What makes a person “powerful”?
February 15th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Is Queen Victoria not the monarch known as the “grandmother of europe” ? I could have sworn she was.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Thank you for the updated and much more researched list.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Great list what about the Rockefellers?
February 15th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Great List. For some reason though, whenever powerful families are brought up I can’t help but to think about the scene in So I Married and Ax Murderer where he talks about the pentablet.
February 15th, 2009 at 8:43 am
this list is quite an improvement on last week’s list
thankfully the Hapsburgs were added
February 15th, 2009 at 9:01 am
what about the corleone family of new york?
February 15th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Why isn’t my family on there? :^)
February 15th, 2009 at 9:20 am
I have heard about the Habsburgs and Zhu families before, but not the rest….so more happy reading for me to find out more about them.
Nice list!
February 15th, 2009 at 10:14 am
KAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHNNNNNNNNN!!!!
February 15th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Denmarks Monarchy! House of Oldenburg!
February 15th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Great list, Jamie! Huge improvement over the original. Glad you did this one.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Beautiful list. The old one did have its merits and I thoroughly enjoyed both (despite what my comments in the old one suggested).
Glad to see many of the powerful families of history in there. There are notable families excluded, though you can’t possibly include everyone so it’s understandable.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:57 am
THIS is a good list. So much better than that thing that was put up last week.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:06 am
You missed out on the Mughal Dynasty which ruled India for about 500 years. Right from father to son. Babar came and conquered, the empire was then expanded and consolidated by Humayun, Akbar, Jehangir, and Shah Jahan and Aurangazeb. Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire for more reference.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:59 am
astraya (13): The Church in England may have been formed in the 2nd century, but the “Church of England” was created by the Tudors
They are two totally different things – different beliefs and different leaders.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Good List but I think the Hearst family should have been on it.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I think the Bush family would merit an honorable mention, as the Kennedy’s were on it. As much if not more power politically in America then the Kennedy’s over the past 60 years, with Prescott Bush being one of the bigger economic forces 30 years prior. As much as they deny it, the Republican Kennedy’s.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
…or dishonorable.
…or dishonourable, for my non-Americans.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I definitely thing this list should be a bit longer, top 20?. Prussia had another powerful one. Notable mention would also be all the chinese dynasties under the tang, qing, han, etc. and the tudors deserve more than just a mention, they have a show for christ sake!
February 15th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Hooray!
A much better list than it’s predecessor. I am sure there will continue to be some different opinions, this list will surely prove to be less controversial.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Too many Earth-based dynasties here – what about the H’bnurzskezz genetic line which ruled Rigel 4-NC for 17 space-time eras?
All silliness aside, enjoyed this list. (Well I enjoyed the first one too!)
February 15th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Hey jfrater, I decided to read a bit .. and yeah thats Victoria`s nickname .. Great list otherwise.
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefArticle.aspx?refid=761560609&pn=2
February 15th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I think it’s kind of silly for people to keep kvetching ‘what about….’
February 15th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Why are the lists lately becoming boring? We went from wrong facts, pornography, list errors, things to do before dead, cannabis, and lawsuits to skydiving, Stephen king stories, pool scenes, novels, powerful families no ones heard of in ages, and post modern literature. Hand in hand I’m not gonna say the lists suck but I thought it was supposed to be fun. The most popular lists are the least complicated. I don’t care about the medici and capetanian family or whatever, I’m sorry but I’m not amazed by those. Just not fun. Just voicing my opinion. Not to offend anyone.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
blah blah, this is boring.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
The Gambinos, Genoveses, Bonannos, Colombos, and Luccheses…
February 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I absolutely and wholeheartedly disagree with SnowKid32. If you want a “fun” list, go read Cosmo or Seventeen. I like lists that offer fascinating insight, especially in regards to history. The most popular lists may be the least complicated, but the BEST lists are the ones that open up new worlds of knowledge.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I feel ripped off. There should have been two lists today since this one was kinda already posted. I guess this list is ok, I don’t really like lists like this they’re kinda boring.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Just throwing this out there: no Egyptian families?
February 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Ugh I completely missed #3, my bad!
February 15th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
@ rmconnors:
Ripped off? I wasn’t aware we were paying for this.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
There are some excellent suggestions in the comments. If I went to 15 the Romanovs would definitely have been here.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
The Rothschilds are currently the most powerful company in the world.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
One of my friends is a Medici, his mom’s a Medici and his dad is a Von Trapp, you know the family from the sound of music? Yea he has alot of money lol.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
^ You should, because otherwise no one’s going to take what you said seriously.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
If you live in Australia, the most powerful family must be the “Daddo’s”. They keep popping up everywhere … there’s gazillions of them. I think one even escaped to Hollywood! :}
February 15th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
what about the PHAROHS
February 15th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
If you don’t exclude Royal Families, you got the wrong family from the subcontinent (#8: Nehru-Gandhi family)
It should have been the MUGHAL DYNASTY instead.
Babur came from Central Asia and his family ruled great parts of India for more than 330 years. At their peak, their rule was present over modern-day Afghanistan, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, parts of central Asia, Burma & Iran. During their time, they would have been probably the greatest family on Earth. The family created one of World’s modern wonders – Taj Mahal; owned the greatest diamond of the time – Kohinoor and gave India it’s most famous emperor – Akbar the Great.
Would you switch the families please?
February 15th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
sorry … the line “During their time, they would have been probably the greatest family on Earth.” should read as
“During their time, they would have been probably the RICHEST family on Earth.”
February 15th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
#8: Gandhi-Nehru Family
You should mention Sanjay Gandhi as well. Sanjay Gandhi – the younger brother of Rajiv Gandhi was an extra-constitutional power during the reign of his mother, Indira Gandhi. He died in a plane crash in 1980.
Rajiv Gandhi entered politics only after Sanjay’s death.
February 16th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Good list.
I’m really surprised the Tudors and/or the Stewarts didn’t make it on here.
February 16th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Nevermind…. most powerful. In the world. Yes.
February 16th, 2009 at 12:28 am
… And I guess I should have read the list first!
February 16th, 2009 at 1:28 am
I got the most absolute deja vu from reading this…
February 16th, 2009 at 1:34 am
For a second I thought you had forgotten the Medici family.
February 16th, 2009 at 1:43 am
Nice work, but just to correct something, in Luxembourg our Grand Duke does not have any power and is so very far away from “ruling” the country.
Even recently after not agreeing with a changing of the law through the parliament, he got stripped of the right to put his signature under the law.
February 16th, 2009 at 2:17 am
32. Bravo, powerful means having great influence. There is no good or bad in powerful, it is a neutral concept.
64. Woohoo! Romanovs! My favourite dynasty!
69. The Ptolemys were pharoahs.
70. I may agree with you on this since the Nehru-Gandhi family is still a dynasty in process. Correct me if I am wrong but didn’t the Mughals claim to be descendants of Genghis Khan? Nevertheless, the Nehru-Gandhi family do have considerable influence over the largest democracy and an economic powerhouse of the world.
77. Even though the Grand Duke of Luxembourg possess no more authority, the list was regarding powerful families. He was mentioned only as a descendant of a long ancestry of royalty and nobles that did hold great power.
56, 57, 60. No offense taken. However, you all should be more considerate of our world’s diversity as many people do find these lists interesting. Maybe you simply cannot appreciate “power”?
February 16th, 2009 at 2:21 am
much better list! Still say Rothschilds should be number one though. You know your the most powerful family when said family has funded both sides of pretty much every battle/war since Napolean.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:34 am
Cleopatra didn’t commit suicide! when the scene was reconstructed it was deemed more likely that she was mudered.
February 16th, 2009 at 7:28 am
The PORSCHE family?
February 16th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Much improved list.
Thanks for taking the time to amend the previous submission and for including the wonderful little nuggets of knowledge that I come here to see.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Although i enjoyed the list,
I think you forgot one of the most powerful families
which is the family of Muhammad
who are perhaps the most powerful family of all.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:44 am
I think the Bushes and Kennedys should have been honorably mentioned
February 16th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Thank god, or whoever, you did not put the Kennedy’s on this list. When I started at the top and started going down the list I had a great fear that people in other countries might have bought into the utter BS that amateur revisionist historians in America have been trying to pull off for 45 years. I find some great comfort that in the future history researches will look in to the old documents and find that the Kennedy’s are on record not as a family of good doers, but as the socially malfunctioning spawn of the wealthy class with a documented history of criminal mob activity, infidelity, rape, murder, and abusers of the justice system.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
What about the Rockafeller Family? Not rich or powerful enough?
February 16th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Babur family that ruled India for 500 years directly descended from GENGHIS KHAAN’s family!!! So, Genghis Khaan’s family should be noted as number 1!!!
February 16th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Well done. I feel educated instead of insulted.
I disagree with suggestion that the previous version was “not without it’s merits”. I still say it is, or was, without merit.
I’d love to see it posted again. I think the comparison would speak for itself.
Perhaps it’s removal says enough.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
what about the Corleone familiy????
February 16th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
yes I know they’re fictional
February 16th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
I’m surprised the Medici’s are not number 1. No Rockefeller.?.the wealthiest man in (measurable) history.
February 17th, 2009 at 4:55 am
The Saxe-Coburgs. Nuff Said.
February 17th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
No Tudors?
February 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Archangel, VA:
While Babur can trace his ancestry to Genghis Khan, trying to draw a Mongol-Mughal dynasty is a stretch. While Babur’s ancestry lay in central Asia, he was a prince in the Persian court before forming the Mughal Empire. IMHO, Mughal dynasty deserves a place in the list for their contribution to art (Taj Mahal), unification of Indian subcontinent and wealth.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:42 am
What about the Addams Family? Just kidding.Great List again!
February 18th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Kalyan,
can you just explain what IMHO means? I am quite new to these abbreviations.
Good point and thanks for clarifying that. I guess it won’t matter for this list anyway as it is about family, and not about imperial dynasties. One could say that the Khan family was extremely powerful considering all the subsequent offspring nobles the family produced… wasn’t Tamerlane/Timurlane? a descendant of the Khan family as well?
February 18th, 2009 at 10:15 am
97. archangel: IMHO = In My Humble Opinion. There are hundreds of acronyms, but a few are common:
http://www.netlingo.com/acronyms.php
is one site which will give you a lot of useful acronyms, and a lot of absolutely useless acronyms…but they’d make you look oh! so cool!
February 18th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
If you were going to delete a list Mr Frater, you should have deleted the 10 Most Overrated Bands list…
February 18th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
HEY What about the BUSH family, they go way way back. Well for those who know history
February 19th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Archangel: I don’t know if there is going to be a lot to differentiate between families and dynasties.
For eg: #8 – Nehru; Indira; Rajiv, Sanjay, Sonia, Menaka; Rahul, Priyanka, Varun represent 4 generations of the family.
In comparison with 4 generations: i would state
(option 1): Babur, Humayun, Akbar, Jehangir or
(option 2): Akbar, Jehangir, Shah jahan and Aurangazeb
- have had more influence on Indian subcontinent.
after all., it’s all in the family ….
question for JFrater: How do you differntiate Dynasties and generations of families?
February 19th, 2009 at 3:37 am
Thanks Segue and Kalyan… mmm good question Kalyan! IMHO (oooh i’m so cool, abbreviations haha!), I suppose maybe dynasties refers to families who where continuously in power, whereas generations simply refers to simple ancestry?
February 19th, 2009 at 5:34 am
i dont understand how anyone could ask for the BUSH family in this list. or the rockefellers. or balwins. sorry but thats just stupid. you cant compare these people to old european or asian royalties.
February 19th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Five of the ten families on the list (the Ptolemies, Julio-Claudians, Capets, Plantagenets, and Khans) and three of the honorable mentions (the Tudors, Stuarts, and Merovingians) are actually all part of one ancient family, with bloodlines that converge in Egypt and Sumer, according to HRM Queen Elizabeth II’s genealogy database at the University of Hull.
Among the many notables on this line, often referred to as the Augustan bloodline, are Charlemagne, Alfred the Great, William the Conqueror, Marc Antony, the Liu emperors of China, and more than 600 kings and emperors. Whether by nature or nurture, some traits (such as ruthlessness/rulership) seem to run in families. The same bloodline is almost entirely without creative people; it has a couple of poets, but no other writers, painters, musicians, or contributors to culture.
It is also a vast family; I was amazed to find that I was part of it–but so was my next-door neighbor! At one gathering, 85% of the people present were descendants of Charlemagne, and none of us are anything special.
February 19th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
I am a direct descendant of Charlemagne, too. Guess I am not as cool as I thought I was
February 20th, 2009 at 3:20 am
I’m surprised no one has commented about the “New World Order” here. I recently saw this compilation movie called “Wake up Call”, and it scared the daylights out of me.
It talks about the Rothschilds & the Rockefellers, and their quest for world domination.
Very scary stuff.
Does anyone have any insights on it?
February 20th, 2009 at 4:35 am
Lol, isn’t that a conspiracy thing (104)? Many people would like to be perceived as having good ancestry, but really did not… or were at least not directly related?
I could be wrong.
Oh and 106. I think you might just be paranoid. I know about that stuff and it’s all conspiracy theory.
If you’d like me to elaborate. That New World Order theory even goes as far as saying that they are Illuminati who are on some aliens side and there are two opposing alien forces out there.
Could be true though at 0.0000000000000000000000000001% probability
February 20th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Astraya – “The Church of England was formed probably in the 2nd century AD by persons unknown, probably Roman soldiers or Irish and Iberian traders.”
Erm….no.
The CofE was formed by King Henry VIII when he severed all ties with Rome when they refused to legitimately divorce him. Around 2AD, Christianity wasn’t even legal!
February 22nd, 2009 at 9:34 am
Are you kidding me, Rothschilds at number 10? At one time the Rothschild’s alone controlled 50% of the worlds wealth. Perhaps more research should have been done? They do stay behind the scenes, but they have been more influential than any of the other families.
February 25th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
What about the Corleones?
February 26th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Wow, there are too many of them i haven’t heard of. Very intersting, kept my eyes on my laptop.
March 8th, 2009 at 3:35 am
MKO 49 and 50. Here’s a little dishonor list for you.
Score:
Murdered girls off Bridges:
Kennedy’s 1
Bush’s 0
Yeah…lot of honor there.
Oh wait..not finished…Wars started by:
Kennedy’s 1 55000 dead
Bush’s 1 3500 dead (amazingly, they both lasted the same amount of time)
Wait Wait
Blowhard Drunken Senators Still in Congress Trying To Destroy Capitalist Society
Kennedy’s 1
Bush’s 0
Hey, still looking for that Dishonor part. Must be somewhere here…hmmmmm…
March 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
you totally forgot the sopranos and the simpsons…
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March 10th, 2009 at 3:24 am
U ppl need to research more on the rockefellers and the Rothschild, the empire controlled by the atm is the most powerful and advanced system ever due to technological advances. Rothschild are certainly #1, they control most of the media, most of the oil companies, world bank, international monetary fund, allot of government defence companies, London and new York stock exchanges, gold bullion Market, federal reserve bank, bank of England, they have licence to print money, they were behind enron scandal, they’ve been behind every war for past century, they control Obamas and the gordon browns of the world, their main weapon of the 21st century sits in the corner of every home, called the television, they start/finish/win/lose wars via that machine, u r being brainwashed every day by Mass media entertainment that u pay for. These ppl r way more powerful than any previous empires of the world. They control every aspect of ur life, all the debt of the governments and ppl is owned to them. They kill millions through wars and diseases they spread. They’ve mastered one thing that previous empires failed to do, secrecy! Basically they own ur ass without u knowing full stop
Oh and those who think kennedys should be top, who got jfk killed? And bush, hahaa ur having a laugh. U ppl need to wake up and realize everything is not how it seems
March 10th, 2009 at 4:48 am
U guys know that bill gates or warren buffet are the richest men in the world right? Well the Rockefellers and Rothschilds are not billionaires but trillionaires.
March 12th, 2009 at 9:07 am
That’s true, Beat It. I’ve been researching the Rothschilds for a while and you’d be surprised at how much they control, directly and inderictly. Just about every contry in the world owes money to them.
March 26th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Dear sir
i like it so much.
Big thank you.
i believe that you’ll try,try and try again.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:15 am
rothschild and rockerfeller are the biggest and u were right. They control entire nations and their govts as they all owe them money plus heavy interest. I’ve been reading on them which is difficult…theyr immensly secretive but estimates say 200-several thousand institutions run by them.
Plus they pay less tax than the cleaners who clean their homes through trusts, and secret trusts within trusts, which are within trusts etc etc!!!
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:41 am
ROMANOV family of Russia should be on any list like this. Consider also Krupp and Tysen industrial families of Germany.
April 6th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Wow… Some people are big conspiracy theorists. Fun!
*****
Great list!! I´ve been on a Tudor binge for the past year so while it was a little disappointing that they were not on here, I´m glad my new obsession is: the Plantagenets!
I´ve also gone though a Medici phase that involved moving myself to Florence for a semester in college…
I love history…
April 16th, 2009 at 6:02 am
My friend you need to do some research before you call us conspiracy theorists.
Watch this, it will open your eyes a little
May 25th, 2009 at 1:50 am
Kalyan is correct…………
Mohul dynasty has to come first…………
Then what about the queeen family in UK………????
once The Sun Never Set on the British Empire……..:)
May 25th, 2009 at 1:50 am
Kalyan is correct…………
Mohul dynasty has to come first…………
Then what about the queeen family in UK………????
once The Sun Never Set on the British Empire……..:)
July 16th, 2009 at 1:16 am
aww, why did you removed the Tudors, the Romanovs & the Kennedys???? Not fair. You should expand that list to 15. I would like to see that.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
No McMahons? lol
September 16th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Rulers are heard but not seen. If they are good, they need not be heard but, followed.
All governments are led by two things, wealth and power. These are gifts. The two elements they do not control as the former, desire and destination.
No man or group of people rules any part of this earth at this time. We lost that authority. Perfectly true and no error.
If you see and understand, this proclamation is substantiated. If not, you will never be able to understand the above.
H-TTGT
October 25th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Are my eyes deceiving me or are some people seriously suggesting the Corleone family? I don’t think there were too many American families in the previous list, considering the DuPonts, Vanderbilts & Rockefellers are all descended from European families but in a historical context it was rather ridiculous.
It’s hard to come to a list of just ten, you could come up with 10 powerful families for most countries.
For Britain, I’d include
Windsors
Tudors
Plantagenets
Cavendish
Spencer-Churchill
But the Hanover family, at one point, controlled about a third of this planet through the British Empire while it was at its econimic and military might, was head of the worlds largest navy, head of the richest nation on earth at that time and were married into various other European Monarchies which had links to French, Dutch, German, Russian and Ottoman empires.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:00 am
in item 6 Claudia and Julius Families its says that julius caeser wasn’t an emporer, i thought that the title of caeser was the name given when they take the mantle of emperor?