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Finally a list about the great music known as death metal. No other music is as ferocious, raw, aggressive, ridiculous, sometimes beautiful, and always sure to put a smile on your face. Now for this list there are a few things you need to know before you just dive right in and get your eardrums ravaged. THIS LIST IS NOT ONLY GOING TO BE DEATH METAL IN THE STRICT SENSE! In fact those of you who are expecting the most brutal list of all time are probably going to be disappointed. I know what you’re thinking, “But this list says top DEATH metal bands!?” Yes it does but I want this list to be as cool as is humanly possible so I am expanding it a little. Plus I don’t want some whiny little punk to write “Ok number x was definitely doom thrash surf glam black metal, not death metal!” No one likes it when music gets classified into the craziest most specific genres ever. Here are the guidelines I am using to write this bad boy. The bands will be judged on:
1. Having at least two albums with death metal elements in it
2. The technicality and musicianship
3. Popularity
4. Importance in the history of death metal
5. Awesomeness
Arch Enemy has legendary guitarist Michael Amott from Carcass. It is one of the few metal bands with a female vocalist. What more could you want? They are getting more popular with each album, and every one is getting more melodic than the last. Although some hardcore metalheads may not like this it is perpetuating their growing popularity.
Some people may not know about this gem of a band. They combine the aggression of death metal with the complexities of classical music. If you have not heard any of their songs you are missing out. They are coming out with a new album this summer as well.
This band from Poland scared me the first time I heard them. They bring a black metal influence to this list (just look at the costumes they have). The drums are incredibly fast and crisp and the guitar work has hints of Middle-Eastern influence.
This Finnish band is known for their melodic riffs. While there are other very good Scandinavian melodic death metal bands (ex. Kalmah, Norther) Children of Bodom is the most popular, the reason it clinched the number seven spot.
Hopefully having Cannibal Corpse on this list will help to keep the real brutal death metal fans happy. Cannibal Corpse is extremely heavy and has built up a cult following. The horror film style subject matter of their music is very controversial, with song names like “Hammer Smashed Face” and just about any of their other songs (especially the ones off of Tomb of the Mutilated).
This band was a tough one to put on this list because they are not really death metal, but luckily awesomeness and musicianship are part of the criteria for this list. Mastodon has a unique and progressive style. The drums are absolutely amazing! Over the years Mastodon has enjoyed great reviews and was nominated for a Grammy but lost to the next band…
That’s right! What metal list would be complete without Slayer? Go to a metal show and everyone there loves Slayer. This band is historically important for metal (thrash metal really) and definitely has the popularity, but when it comes down to it the musicianship is not as good as many of the other bands on this list. However this adds to their “metalness.” The members of the band have admitted that there are mistakes in their recordings but they don’t care because they are that cool.
Many metalheads may be surprised to see the number three spot filled by this band, but it really makes perfect sense. They definitely have some death metal elements and the musicianship. While they may not be super popular or important in the history of metal yet, I believe they will be soon. Anyone who disagrees with my decision to put this band at number three should listen to Colors all the way through. It is a beautiful masterpiece with more musical styles than I ever thought could be crammed into one album.
They are everything a death metal band should be. They have caused a nice amount of controversy with their imagery and lyrics. Their lead singer burned an upside-down cross into his forehead. They have brutal riffs and blisteringly fast blast beats with spectacular guitar solos interspersed (listen to the solo in “Homage for Satan”). I don’t think anyone can argue their high position on this list.
Even if Death lacked all the other criteria (which they don’t) they still are the most important band in death metal history. Chuck Schuldiner is the father of death metal for a reason. Death is the band that started death metal plain and simple. Aside from starting the genre this list is based on, the music they make is simply beautiful. It is obvious that Chuck pours his heart into his music. Some of the things he plays will really stick with you.
Everyone’s favorite cartoon band also happens to be ridiculously metal! If Dethklok were a real band they would have the number one spot on awesomeness points alone.
Honorable Mentions: Cynic, Atheist, Pestilence, Dark Tranquility
Contributor: General Tits Von Chodehoffen
1 maximuz04
March 21st, 2009 at 1:26 am
Hmm….. I hate the music lists but interesting list
2 maximuz04
March 21st, 2009 at 1:27 am
Oh I do like how the first one is named simply “death” however I bet more than one band has a variation of this
3 Schlam fizzer
March 21st, 2009 at 1:30 am
Most of this list is incorrect. The list should include:
1. Slayer I suppose because without them, DM would not exist.
2. Death (agree with you here, Chuck is King!)
3. Carcass
4. Entombed
5. Obituary
6. Morbid Angel
7. Sepultura
8. Meshuggah
9. Cannibal Corpse
10. Morbid Angel
So there.
4 Schlam fizzer
March 21st, 2009 at 1:33 am
Oops. Morbid Angel at position 6 was supposed to be Deicide.
5 Rob
March 21st, 2009 at 1:37 am
Although Between The Buried And Me are phenomenal (one of my favourite bands), they’re not death metal in the slightest. Ok they have some blast beats now and again and growling vocals but so do a lot of metalcore/technical metal bands. There’s a lot more to death metal than just blast beats and growls.
Mastodon? You got to be kidding me. Nothing death in the slightest about them
Slayer? Err…no. Thrash metal and death metal are quite different
6 beaverboy
March 21st, 2009 at 1:38 am
i personally wouldve put BTBAM at number 1. theyre incredible. good list
7 sofakingawesome
March 21st, 2009 at 2:06 am
nice! all my favorite bands are on the list! My first time ever posting. Awesome site love the list!
8 TMX
March 21st, 2009 at 2:07 am
People do need to read the introduction – “THIS LIST IS NOT ONLY GOING TO BE DEATH METAL IN THE STRICT SENSE!” That said a better name for it might be Top 10 “Extreme” Metal bands.
Even at that, though, there are some inclusions which make me scratch my head when compared to the other entries on this list. If you are going to include Between the Buried and Me in such a list, there are far better bands that could be included on this list. I mean, Arch Enemy… really? If you want to include a band who makes it for their popularity, any of the original Gothenburg bands would be a far better addition. I mean, I know In Flames’ material has gotten increasingly weaker over time, but there is nothing Arch Enemy has ever done that is really much better, especially since they added Angela Gossow.
I’m glad to see such a list on the site, though. It is good to see some lists every once in a while that really on cater to a niche audience. However, this one seems like it was thrown together and that is problematic once you start looking at the relationship of one band to the other 9 on the list.
9 Sam
March 21st, 2009 at 2:21 am
very yes to Dethklok XD
10 Lethal Pixi
March 21st, 2009 at 2:30 am
Dethklok is awesome!! Best show ever!!! brendon small also created the cartoon ‘Home Movies’ that is on adult swim sometimes. Last halloween my friend and his band– A Killer Born dressed up as Dethklok.
11 Ate
March 21st, 2009 at 2:42 am
There is simply too much good metal to put it all on a top 10 list.
What about Opeth,or early Katatonia,or Edge of Sanity?
What about Nile,At The Gates,early In Flames?
What about Soilwor,Napalm Death, or early Kataklysm?
What about Septicflesh,Dark Tranquility,or Posessed?
Also,I’m not sure why Dethklok is on the list.Ive got the album,and its nothing special,just generic death metal.
It’s still good to know someone is promoting the alternative music scene.
12 Mortivore
March 21st, 2009 at 2:45 am
Mmm, Children of Bodom. This list really makes my day.
13 penis
March 21st, 2009 at 2:56 am
And Chuck Norris?
14 JFrater
March 21st, 2009 at 2:57 am
I am stepping back from this one – I didn’t even know that such a thing as death metal existed until the 10,000 comments from the contributor begging me to post it! But it fits the demographics so there you go
Maybe something bizarre or offbeat tomorrow 
In the meantime – debate away!
15 rolf
March 21st, 2009 at 2:57 am
Awful list. I’ve been listening to extreme metal since I was 12 (I’m 31 now), and to not include Possessed, Entombed or Carcass is ridiculous. And Mastodon? What is that tosh? Children Of Bodom? If you are going to include ‘melodic’ death metal from Finland, then you include Amorphis, and don’t even get me started on Behemoth, sweet Jesus…
That being said, death metal is the worst sub-genre of metal; black, thrash and doom metal are much better. How Jamie allowed this list to slip through is beyond me.
BTW, Slayer are not death metal at all.
BTW II, the Darkthrone and Lifelover albums are great (to any real metalheads that might be reading this).
16 JFrater
March 21st, 2009 at 2:57 am
penis: he is too busy kicking ass to worry about death metal.
17 rolf
March 21st, 2009 at 2:59 am
New Darkthrone and Lifelover albums I mean.
BTW III, Death DID not start death metal.
18 JFrater
March 21st, 2009 at 3:00 am
rolf: read my previous comment
In some cases I have to presume that the author has knowledge I lack because there is no way I can do sufficient research in one day to determine the validity of the list when it is a topic I have no knowledge of at all. In cases like that I rely on the comments to help me either do a second list which fills the gaps or to pull it if it causes too much controversy (though a little controversy is good) 
19 lo
March 21st, 2009 at 3:00 am
General Tits Von Chodehoffen-
yeah! you finally got your list! now i’ve only ever heard of (and not actually heard) cannibal corpse, but i’m happy your list made it to the site in all it’s glory
20 Luke
March 21st, 2009 at 3:01 am
Hmmmm, what about Bolt Thrower? 20 years of crunching, hook filled, ripping war metal…they should be on any top 10 DM list.
Does’nt really suprise me that they are’nt on here, they have always been massively under rated.
21 lo
March 21st, 2009 at 3:03 am
p.s. jfrater-
response to this list will be an informal “poll” about how many hard-core metal fans frequent LV! will there be a place we can see the final stats of the poll/surveys you’ve been running lately?
22 changeling
March 21st, 2009 at 3:12 am
what, has everyone totally ignored cryptopsy?? They make all but ‘Death’ look like a bunch of farting vaginas…
23 gg
March 21st, 2009 at 3:18 am
nice one…
24 gg
March 21st, 2009 at 3:20 am
this list is bullshit……
there are soo many better things to discuss about than so called “death metal bandS”. R&B is the best….
25 Barabas
March 21st, 2009 at 3:25 am
You should srsly read something about the history of Death Metal. Where the **** is Napalm Death?
And where is Morbid Angel?
I do no even like those two band but there should be included.
And one could easily a straight Death Metal list.
Slayer? if you include Slayer you can also include Metallica…
“1. Having at least two albums with death metal elements in it”
What are these elements you are talkin about? And if you take just “elemenst” Weezer could be included beacuse the singer uses shouts from time to time.
Weak list, sorry.
26 Niall
March 21st, 2009 at 3:29 am
This is the first time that the listverse has legitimately bummed me out with such a TERRIBLE group of choices for a list.
Seriously though, Between the Buried and Me? Get out of here.
No Carcass? Suffocation? Entombed? Decapitated? Good lord… Not only are a bunch of staples of death metal not mentioned, an entire section of death metal (swedish or melodic death metal) is only represented by the lousy Arch Enemy and NOT by AT THE GATES, In Flames or Dark Tranquility. Truly a failed list.
But Dethklok got lipservice.. cool. ::rolls eyes::
27 Ate
March 21st, 2009 at 3:31 am
There is no such thing as an objective top 10 music list.
28 astraya
March 21st, 2009 at 3:32 am
General Tits will be happy now! I knew the name of one of these bands, and haven’t (consciously) heard their music. As a classical muso, I’ll wander over over to my (comparatively quiet) “Great choral music list from before 1750 list” and let the General defend him(?)self against what is bound to be a huge onslaught of aggrieved comments.
29 Patrask
March 21st, 2009 at 4:17 am
Where is Mayhem? Cradle of Filth? In Flames? :
30 MonkeyBrains
March 21st, 2009 at 4:24 am
Oh GOD. I knew this list would bring all the jumped-up elitists out of the woodworks… I’m a metal fan myself but I gotta say the bullshit elitism and slandering of OPINIONS is one of the things I HATE the most. Seriously, opinions are subjective, deal with it.
Have your own opinions of course, that’s the whole point, but this list is ALSO someone’s opinion so calling it bullshit/wrong/’TERRIBLE’ is just plain wrong.
I reckon a lot of the bands on there are well placed…. but just because some of you disagree don’t go being dicks.
How about a ‘hey, interesting list, thanks for taking the time to compile it… I disagree with some of your choices though.’ (Eg, I think Arch Enemy suck big fat donkey balls, but that’s not General Tits Von Chodehoffens fault!)
Moral of this story: Your elitism doesn’t make you look cool, it makes you look like an internet douchebag!
(PS – Thanks for putting an uber-niche list like this!)
31 Davd
March 21st, 2009 at 4:28 am
Just take away “Top” from the title of this list and that could have prevented a lot of the bitching and moaning that metal heads are known for.
32 Spange
March 21st, 2009 at 4:29 am
Not hugely into Death Metal but I guess I’d have to say it seems a couple of better bands seem to have been missed out. I saw Children of Bodom a couple of months ago and they were singularly pants. I’d agree with those calling for Napalm Death and Carcass. That said a couple of great inclusions, namely Death and Slayer who aren’t death metal (I know, I did read the intro) but are beyond awesome! Once again, a list that really is entirely subjective and liable to induce frothing disagreement but interesting nonetheless. General Tits, a very brave sally forth.
33 Metalwrath
March 21st, 2009 at 4:29 am
Patrask (comment 30) : I hope you are joking… Mayhem and CoF are black metal.. and CoF is hardly even black metal nowadays.
In Flames WAS melodic death metal but not anymore.. but I do like their early work.
34 JFrater
March 21st, 2009 at 4:36 am
lo: I have a few more polls to go – when I am done I will do an admin list which includes all the results. I will be doing an advertising flyer which incorporates all the info as well as other site info such as number of posts and comments (you can see some of this on the about page already). The polling info is anonymous but extremely useful in finding a replacement advertiser for the one that canned us because of complaints about one of our lists.
35 JFrater
March 21st, 2009 at 4:39 am
Ate (28): don’t we know it? But all is not lost – another list will spring from this one like a phoenix from the flames
36 Maelstrom
March 21st, 2009 at 4:39 am
This list is total crap
Slayer shouldnt be there, same as BTBAM
Children of bodom suck
why don’t you have good DM bands like Obituary, Bolt Thrower and Morbid Angel, or even decent sub-genre DM bands like Devourment and Putrid Pile
Plus, so many great other DM bands, to name a few, Skinless, Torture Killer, Fonldecorpse, The Berzerker, impaled and carcass!
37 JFrater
March 21st, 2009 at 4:42 am
MonkeyBrains: thank you for your comment: it is the epitome of what we love to see here – clear headed moderate viewpoints!
38 JFrater
March 21st, 2009 at 4:43 am
Davd: but that would spoil all the fun
39 JFrater
March 21st, 2009 at 4:45 am
okay – so after all the noise in the last month or so from General Tits – where the hell is he? He should be here to take one for the team!
40 Sickophant
March 21st, 2009 at 4:46 am
@ 31. MonkeyBrain.
Hear hear.
41 Mark
March 21st, 2009 at 4:46 am
Is this a joke? Slayer influenced Death Metal sure, but I wouldn’t put Black Sabbath on a “Top 10 Doom Metal Bands”…
You got Death right at least, couldn’t be anything else for that first spot. Carcass should at least be in the honourable mentions though. I don’t understand why Behemoth are on there though, just because of the cool costumes? I really think you need to look at a couple of those again *cough* 3,4 and 8 *cough* but apart from that nice list.
Oh yeah, criterion number one is absolute bullsh*t, either they’re Death Metal or they shouldn’t be on a “Top 10 DEATH Metal Bands” list.
42 Maelstrom
March 21st, 2009 at 4:53 am
J-Frater, I am offering something, would it be possible for me to make a secondary list, it would take me like 45 minutes to an hour tops, of the top 10 – 15 death metal bands. Compiled with suggestions from the commentors on this list, my own personal oppinion and also taker into consideration a few suggestions from this list
please get back to me soon
43 Enoooo
March 21st, 2009 at 5:00 am
Saw Children of Bodom at a very intimate concert at one of my local music stores. Was probably one of the craziest concerts I’ve been to. Just imagine being in a room the size of your living room with them. Kind of scary. The concert was only outdone by the Cannibal Corpse concert I went to a few weeks later. And I’m not even a huge fan of death metal.
44 deathmetallll
March 21st, 2009 at 5:03 am
This list is okay. Death at number one was a no brainer. I wouldve left children of bodom and mastodon off. They’re strictly metal. Some more originators of the genre wouldve been nice. Like Venom or Bathory. And maybe some newer kings like Whitechapel or The Black Dahlia Murder. In all, good list just too much straight “metal” bands. I may make one later and see what you guys think.
45 Enoooo
March 21st, 2009 at 5:03 am
Oh and congrats for Penis making Jamie call someone Penis.
46 Maelstrom
March 21st, 2009 at 5:10 am
My list, i reckon this is a fairly universally acceptable list
1. Death
2. Carcass
3. Napalm Death
4. Entombed
5. Obituary
6. Morbid Angel
7. Bolt Thrower
8. Amorphis
9. Deicide
10. Cannibal Corpse
11. Skinless
12. The Berzerker
13. Psycroptic
14. Whitechapel
15. Ghoul
I hate whitechapel but decided to add them in with a few other bands who are putting a new spin on things, namely the last 4
47 Mark
March 21st, 2009 at 5:24 am
47. Maelstrom : You forgot Venom, but apart from that great list. Much better than General’s…
48 Maelstrom
March 21st, 2009 at 5:27 am
Venom are much more closely attributed to Black metal more than anything
49 Barabas
March 21st, 2009 at 5:33 am
@47
not made but they could be more melodic death metal
50 JFrater
March 21st, 2009 at 5:37 am
Enooo: I really did feel weird doing that – and was considering posting a comment about it – but I thought if I didn’t say anything that no one would notice – obviously they did
51 Mark
March 21st, 2009 at 5:40 am
49. Maelstrom : It can only be objective to an extent, obviously you hear more Black Metal in it. I think that the reason I clump them with Death Metal is probably just my personal listening habits. If you want to be as objective as possible they probably count more as Speed/Thrash more than anything else.
52 MonkeyBrains
March 21st, 2009 at 5:43 am
Thanks JFrater….. I just KNEW this list would bring out metal snobs! I swear, that ‘scene’ (for want of a better word) has the most snobbery I’ve ever encountered; I can understand liking what you like but dude, enough with the musical purism!
Maybe that’s an idea for another list – ‘Top ten bands metal fans think are crap for no apparent reason.’
53 Mark
March 21st, 2009 at 5:49 am
53. MonkeyBrains : I don’t think snobbery is the right word, Black Metal fans – and I’m talking really purist early Scandanavian sorta jobs – don’t like other metal because it’s too mainstream or “sold out”. I assume that’s the sort of thing you were referring to?
54 ScubaSteve
March 21st, 2009 at 6:13 am
Great list! To all those saying the list failed, go make you own and stop being cry babies. Why do some of you put bands into so many little sub-genres? Guys metal is fucking metal. Personally some of my favs are Slayer, Lamb of God, DevilDriver, Inflames, Cannibal Corpse just to name a few.
55 deepthinker
March 21st, 2009 at 6:29 am
I’m not a death metal fan, but if I could judge the bands’ sound on their looks, then I’m going to have to trust you on your list choices. They all look pretty hard-core.
56 BryanJ
March 21st, 2009 at 6:31 am
Sorry, my last post had some swearing in it… Here’s the edited version:
Kudos on adding Dethklok. I honestly think this is a decent list. Then again I’m not a freaking elitist jerk like everyone else posting here…
57 Castor
March 21st, 2009 at 6:41 am
At The Gates?
58 Joy
March 21st, 2009 at 6:43 am
While most of the bands here are great, I’d have to say that I’m pretty disappointed with this list.
Slayer should be higher on the list, and I don’t think Deicide deserves 2nd (although they are a very good band, they just don’t deserve that high of a rank as much as Slayer does).
59 Brad
March 21st, 2009 at 6:55 am
Oh my god, I love this list so much! This author is a genius. I seriously flipped when I saw BTBAM on this list. In my opinion, they would easily be number 1, although Death does deserve it for starting the genre. They have been my favorite band since they came out, and my love for them grows with each album.
Necrophagist was a good touch too. They should have been higher up. I never really understood why people rave about Mastodon so much. Decide should have been waaaaay lower.
Awesome list though. Kudos!
60 Brad
March 21st, 2009 at 6:58 am
The Faceless should have been on here as well, but I’m not gonna critique.
61 Mike B
March 21st, 2009 at 7:13 am
Hahahaha! Great humor lists like this are the reasons I keep coming back to one of the finest satire sites on the ‘Net! This one had me rofling hard. “Death Metal” being called music! Alleging that melody and talent are somehow employed. A total riff on the un-ironic ‘evil’ posing and obsession with crazy hair and fashion affectations. Pretty soon, you’ll have enough satirical material to rival The Onion! The list writer must know these types really well to parody their ‘critical appreciation’ of this manufactured pop format.
62 Mr. Nevermind
March 21st, 2009 at 7:14 am
The guys at #8 look like they belong in a Mortal Kombat game or something…
Sub-Zero VS Behemoth….FIGHT!
63 El_Karlo
March 21st, 2009 at 7:17 am
I saw Children of Bodem a few months back supporting Machine Head and Slipknot and they sucked so bad it was comical.
What about Dream Theater? Or is that Prog. Metal? Aaah who cares about all the little sub-genres as long as i can mosh to it.
64 lucy
March 21st, 2009 at 7:18 am
not a fan of this music, although i am going to Mayhemfest in August to see Marilyn Manson (whom I love) and some of the bands people have mentioned are going to be there. I can only listen to ‘Death Metal’ if I am high or actually seeing them live: I can mosh as good as anyone else, right? Yeah, I would get my ass kicked. But I do love the intensity in their shows and I think they put a lot of effort into their (shitty) music.
65 romerozombie
March 21st, 2009 at 7:19 am
SWEET ZOMBIE JESUS! Kudos for including BTBAM. If you liek them, you’ll love Protest The Hero.
Another honorable mention: Carcass.
66 lucy
March 21st, 2009 at 7:22 am
Mike B: you are very self indulged, ignorant, and quite frankly, an idiot. just because you don’t like the music, does not mean that it is bad or low-quality music. Death metal guitarists are usually the most talented: ever heard of Dimebag Darrell? No, I thought not.
And there is NOTHING wrong with expressing yourself through art, which can include the clothes you wear, your makeup, and your hairstyle.
67 Sofie
March 21st, 2009 at 7:27 am
I don’t listen to death metal because because it gives me a head ache. Hm.. I don’t understand the name Cannibal Corpse… that would seem to imply a corpse that eats other corpses which isn’t very frightening. I wish I had an outfit like the ones on #8…
68 Crimanon
March 21st, 2009 at 7:31 am
I’m not so New Metal that I can’t enjoy this list. Great work! I’ve got more a preference for Ice but, you know, sometimes you just can’t beat Slayer. Especially when you work a relaxed pizza shop where No One is aloud to complain when it’s your turn with the stereo.
This list is the Tits!
69 Mark
March 21st, 2009 at 7:32 am
66. lucy : Don’t feed the trolls..
And Pantera weren’t Death Metal, Dimebag was great though.
70 Erwin
March 21st, 2009 at 7:32 am
Pungent Stench, Amon Amarth, The Crwonmaybe Macabre.
The Haunted, though I don´t like´em much, went pretty huge in Europe.
And btw I can understand that some disagree on such a paradox title being “Top 10 Death Metal Bands” which are in almost have the cases not even remotely Death Metal as the author admitted.
It´s not necessarily musical snobbery, it´s just pointing out obvious bullshittery.
71 Mr. Nevermind
March 21st, 2009 at 7:33 am
Where’s David Bloodclot from Decomposure?
72 VikingBerserker
March 21st, 2009 at 7:35 am
If we can include Viking Metal on the list, then Amon Amarth would have to be included. The guitar work is the best in any music genre I have every listened to. “Cry of the BLackbirds” is an excellent example.
73 Erwin
March 21st, 2009 at 7:41 am
Amon Amarth is IMO Death Metal about Vikings.
I think Death Metal should be measured on the music, not their style or the theme of their songs.
74 Mark
March 21st, 2009 at 7:48 am
73. Erwin : Exactly why Slayer shouldn’t be here, or – quite possibly – Mastodon and – almost definitely – Between The Buried And Me. But hey, what can I do but sit here and complain
75 Looser
March 21st, 2009 at 7:55 am
you have to be in to this sort of thing…
76 adam
March 21st, 2009 at 7:57 am
SoO, MuCh NoOoob-NesSs
There’s a good difference between Melodic Death Metal(Arch Enemy,COB),Thrash Metal(slayer), Groove(Mastodon) AND FUCKING METALCORE(BTBAM). learn what Death Metal is plzthxbi.
Although, I will agree with you on Death being #1
77 Crimanon
March 21st, 2009 at 7:57 am
Mark: It’s your job to complain (productively). Most of the generation ahead of you is to jaded to do it. You’re young enough for it to matter.
78 RandomPrecision
March 21st, 2009 at 8:04 am
On a completely unrelated topic…
Can i get an admin. to gelp me activate my forum account?
I’ve tried sending like 8 emails over the past week, and have not gotten any.
Sorry this has nothing to do with the “music” of the above list, but I obviously can’t post my question in the forum…
79 Mark
March 21st, 2009 at 8:05 am
76. Crimanon : Thanks? But why not actually do something instead of complaining, like say, writing a list I think is better? I guess that wouldn’t change much, but it would probably be more constructive. But if complaining is my job, bring it on, it’s one of the few things I can do quite well
80 MichaelGreen
March 21st, 2009 at 8:05 am
I have never heard of any of these bands.
81 smurff
March 21st, 2009 at 8:16 am
Congrats. General on getting your list onto LV – the slinging comments have already started, but it is quite nice to sit back and read all the in fighting between the guys – its not easy putting a list together, and you cant please everybody all at once.
82 seebe
March 21st, 2009 at 8:19 am
would’ve gotten rid of:
- btbam
- mastodon
- arch enemy
- necrophagist
would’ve added:
- morbid angel
- entombed
- amon amarth
- nile (just cause you have behemoth)
83 Exlud
March 21st, 2009 at 8:22 am
Dude, no Yanni or John Tesh?!!
You totally don’t know what death metal is!
(tongue firmly planted in cheek) : )
84 ZAxel
March 21st, 2009 at 8:24 am
I’m wearing a Mastodon shirt right now!
85 seebe
March 21st, 2009 at 8:27 am
6. “Hopefully having Cannibal Corpse on this list will help to keep the real brutal death metal fans happy.”
probably not.
86 abe
March 21st, 2009 at 8:30 am
were the hells opeth
87 Cedestra
March 21st, 2009 at 8:33 am
I remember the good General posting that he wanted to make this list. Here it is, in all it’s glory. Too bad HE’S not here…
I do not qualify myself as knowledgable enough to comment on the content of this list. I’ve heard of Slayer, and maybe a few others, but I don’t listen to or like death metal.
I am curious why Cradle of Filth was left off the list. I thought they were death metal? Was I wrong? Are they just not good enough?
In the least, a very enthusiastic list. I venture to say that you’re adorable, General.
88 Gary Busey Is God
March 21st, 2009 at 8:37 am
Necrophagist hasn’t been important to DM at all, despite inspiring hundreds of clone bands and even more Deathcore bands.
Mastodon isn’t DM at all, and has no elements at all.
BTBAM is not Death Metal at all, and your citing of only one album breaks your own rules. That, and I’m sorry that you need wankery caked miles high on your music for it to be good.
CoB is the most popular Melodic DM band, but At The Gates was definitely the most important, At The Gates embodied the Gothenburg sound.
Slayer isn’t DM, and doesn’t belong on this list.
This list needs other bands if you’re judging for influence. Cynic should be at 7 at least, without them, the Canadian Tech DM movement would be largely nonexistent. Possessed deserves top 5, AT LEAST, their demo entitled Death Metal essentially laid the foundation for what was to come and they inspired countless bands. Morbid Angel is one of the few DM bands to sell over 1 million records (Death is one other) and the band still goes strong. Next to Death, MA was one of the most influential bands to come out of Florida. I’ll let you get away with Honorable Mentions for Pestilence, but Atheist raises a big question mark. One of the big 3 Floridian bands that took DM in completely different directions, Piece of Time shook DM to its very foundation.
89 Mark
March 21st, 2009 at 8:39 am
88. Cedestra : They [Cradle of Filth] were Death Metal once upon a time, back in the days of demos. But since releasing their full length stuff they’ve been more typecast as Black Metal. In saying that they have retained some – if not many – of their Death Metal roots and they’re still a very enjoyable listen.
90 Buried
March 21st, 2009 at 8:42 am
Definitely would sub-out Mastodon for something like Atheist. I guess their first albums were more on the Death Metal side of things than since Leviathan. BTBAM aren’t really a Death Metal band even they they do include some elements from the genre. With that criteria though Pantera would be on the list I think even though they aren’t Death Metal at all. Awesome to see some Metal on here at all though!
Malevolent Creation anyone?
Deicide and Death for sure.
91 Mark
March 21st, 2009 at 8:51 am
89. Gary Busey Is God : Yes influence is important, but so are other things. Like, oh wait a second, popularity – which can be expressed in record sales – so wait a second, why does Cynic deserve a spot then? You can’t bust out arguing for influence to be the most heavy-handed criterion and then use album sales – of Morbid Angel – to try and justify a spot on its own.
P.S. The CoB thing was crap, they are the most popular of melodic death bands so they get the spot, simple as that. It doesn’t matter if YOU like At The Gates more – or even if they embodoy “the Gothenburg sound”, which isn’t THE melodic death metal, just one local variant – CoB deserve the spot.
92 Serg
March 21st, 2009 at 8:55 am
Amon Amarth definitely should’ve been added. I’ve yet to find another band that so masterfully combines the hard riffage and vox with the harmonies and the fantastic lyrical themes without coming off as a cheezy novelty (Read: Dragonforce).
93 Mike B
March 21st, 2009 at 9:02 am
@sofie: I think you are missing the postmodern self-referential hilarity/angst in the band name “Cannibal Corpse”. Yes, as you state, a corpse that is cannibalistic would indeed be eating other corpses, possibly itself, hence making the name seem redundant and descriptively misleading. However, the shrewd observer will note the parody of capitalist society, the self-devouring consumerist regurgitation and reclamation of culture and our ultimate moral decay and demise at the hands of the hungry generation to follow.
Or it could just be a really dumb name.
94 Yautja
March 21st, 2009 at 9:11 am
Shame on you for not even honorably mentioning Opeth! If you’re not familiar with them, I recommend listening.
95 Tj
March 21st, 2009 at 9:14 am
Cryptopsy!!!!
well only their none so vile days, BTBAM is awful deathcore (like most deathcore)in my opinion, they are easily a poor man’s Dillenger escape plan if you want something experimental, and not death metal. But anyway, death metal fans take their music way too seriously, we definitely fight harshly with each other over what is good and really I’m included in that whole mess, I could easily write a page on who should be added adjusted and removed. So I’ll keep it short just to sate my frustration with best music lists: definitely missing, Carcass, Napalm death (even though both are really grindcore at heart), Cryptopsy, Morbid angel, Nile (behemoth is a poor man’s Nile) and so on and so on. Your list only has 4 death metal bands in it btw. Judging deathmetal by popularity over influence is a terrible move as well, if that was completely true then every piece of shit corporate scene deathcore band would be on here (bands like, suicide silence, bring me the horizon). Ok I’m better now, thanks for listening.
96 Mark
March 21st, 2009 at 9:29 am
96. Tj : “….Behemoth is a poor man’s Nile…” What? WHAT? And Zeppelin is a poor man’s Purple… What are you on? Behemoth is Blackened-Death; Nile is Death with Middle-Eastern influences, there’s only the slightest of similarities, let alone parallels that would excuse such comments as that. I think you did the “poor man’s” colloquialism well and truly to death – lol, get it
– in that post too by the way. I really don’t understand how someone can like Death Metal and yet hate Deathcore, I’m not saying that they’re mutual likes, but liking one and despising the other, am I missing something?
97 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 9:37 am
HOLY SHIT DUDE! I just woke up and I found this! JFrater is the man for putting this up. And for everyone crying about the bands not all being death metal read the top
98 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 9:40 am
And you guys are right Carcass should have gotten an honorable mention. My band actually just played with them in Cleveland
99 Brad
March 21st, 2009 at 9:41 am
Anyone that says BTBAM is strictly metalcore or deathcore is an idiot. Idiots. They are prog death metal. If you don’t get it, then get educated.
Oh, and I would definitely replace the Bodom spot with Meshuggah. I can’t believe nobody’s mentioned them…
100 Brad
March 21st, 2009 at 9:44 am
What’s your band? I’m from Akron.
101 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 9:45 am
Yo guys Nile isnt on here cause they are not that popular. Isnt it enough to just know they are sweet? Also everyone typing pissy comments about all the subgenres of metal and how this list is not real deathmetal should go castrate themselves with a wooden spoon. Who cares about all the ultra specific parts of metal, just enjoy it for what it is.
102 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 9:46 am
My band is called Hyperion. We are from Pittsburgh. Our website is hyperionband.com if you want to check us out.
103 Killbot
March 21st, 2009 at 9:52 am
I’m sorry, but this list is awful. A good deal of these bands aren’t even Death Metal.
Even putting aside the subjectivity of music taste, where are the genre giants and pioneers – Morbid Angel? Obituary? Dismember? Incantation?….. They ringing any bells?
A metalcore band at number 3?! This is the first list that’s bothered me enough to actually comment.
104 oouchan
March 21st, 2009 at 9:52 am
General Tits Von Chodehoffen good list. I actually knew 3 of these. I am not an expert so I will not try to name other bands. My daughter knew a bunch though.
Now…don’t all jump on me but what is the diff between Death Metal and Black Metal?
side note: it was easier when it was just known as Heavy Metal.
105 rolandofgilead
March 21st, 2009 at 9:56 am
@87. abe
i agree. this list needs more opeth
106 Brad
March 21st, 2009 at 10:02 am
For real? That’s sick! I know you guys.
107 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 10:02 am
Dude wasnt it better before everyone got a sandy vag over metal genres? Death metal is real fast, has blast beats, and has lower vocals than black metal. Black metal has vocals that are shrieked and its just different, listen to Darkthrone or something and you will get it haha.
108 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 10:03 am
HAHA seriously? How do you know us? I didnt realize anyone knew about us.
109 Brad
March 21st, 2009 at 10:11 am
Yeah man, your stuff is sick! I love Overseer.
110 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 10:17 am
Also I would like to thank MonkeyBrains for pretty much summing up my opinion on metal people. Also for the record I dont like every band on this list.
111 Eli
March 21st, 2009 at 10:27 am
I just hate this music. It’s not music, it’s absurd noise that came straight from hell.
112 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 10:38 am
Eli you obviously dont know anything about music. I hate country but I still know those dudes have talent. Metal musicians are actually quite good. Maybe you should listen to more Deicide? A healthy dose of “Homage for Satan” might make you lighten up.
113 Eli
March 21st, 2009 at 10:43 am
114 Brandon
March 21st, 2009 at 10:44 am
I just love btbam
115 ben winston
March 21st, 2009 at 10:58 am
mastodon is my favorite band but they are not death metal. good job having death #1 though they deserve that spot
116 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 11:01 am
Well Eli I dont think I have labeled you too easily. Im glad to hear you enjoy music. It is true that music should bring you joy. But to say one kind of music is “absurd noise that came straight from hell” is stupid, just like you.
117 Valgrindar
March 21st, 2009 at 11:01 am
This list is a bit ridiculous.
You put Necrophagist, Cannibal Corpse and Behemoth on here, but only give Atheist, Cynic and Pestilence “honorable mentions”?
Not to mention the unacceptable number of bands mentioned who aren’t even DM. Mastodon? Slayer? Children of Bodom? BTBAM? I know Slayer had some DM elements and are HUGELY influential, but they really shouldn’t be on a list dedicated to the genre. Not to mention, I don’t love Slayer… In fact, I find them pretty boring.
Mastodon isn’t even CLOSE to death metal, but you put them up here because of musicianship? At least stick with the goddamn genre, kiddo.
Children of Bodom have hints of melodeath influences, but they’re more focused as a thrash/power hybrid. They just have harsh vocals.
BTBAM is just so out of place I’m not even going to say anything. That shit should be REALLY obvious. They’re a progressive metalcore band and only have slight hints of death metal in their music.
Lastly, Death are not the “fathers” of death metal. That would be Possessed. Chuck was the GODfather of death metal; Death was not the “father”. However, they do play death metal, and I absolutely fucking love them, so I don’t disagree with their place on this list.
118 CurtShmurt
March 21st, 2009 at 11:01 am
I’m not a fan of Death Metal nor am I against this genre. Many of my friends listen to it and I don’t mind it just as they put up with my tunes when they’re over at my place…or when they’re too lazy(drunk, loaded) to pick music and have me DJ. The heaviest I ever get is Type o Negative but I happen to think they kick ass and nobody ever objects when I play it.
It takes all kinds y’know for a well rounded group of friends.
Good list, good comments…what the hell
119 Kennoth
March 21st, 2009 at 11:02 am
I know most of these bands, but I don’t like death metal.
120 CK2005
March 21st, 2009 at 11:58 am
Dethklok is the best band on the list. Anyone who listens to Cannibal Corpse and says they like it is a liar. It’s all about the image, just like the pop music they try so hard to distance themselves from.
121 josh
March 21st, 2009 at 12:25 pm
wow cant believe people listen to this garbage in the first place, they just shout whatever words that cross their minds
122 Magnus
March 21st, 2009 at 12:28 pm
The only band on here that I don’t like is BTBAM.
Great list, though.
123 Pieter
March 21st, 2009 at 12:32 pm
This list is horrible. I stopped as soon as I saw Arch Enemy.
Seriously?
What about Incantation, Gorguts, etc?
THOSE are some of the best dm bands.
124 Maggot
March 21st, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Well General, can’t say you weren’t warned about including Slayer. Your answer to that appears to be covering your ass with all of the caveats in your into. Well whatever, it’s your list.
Now for my “what about” – if only to give props to my hometown San Francisco: What about Possessed???
125 oouchan
March 21st, 2009 at 12:52 pm
108. General Tits Von Chodehoffen: I listened to the differences and understand now. My kid likes Black metal apparently. Can’t say that I enjoyed it as much but I did like a few songs. Still, in my opinion its all heavy metal.
126 Gary Busey Is God
March 21st, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Nile, not popular? Kollias’ notieriety amongst the drumming community alone is enough to catapult their popularity to the likes of Necrophagist.
@92, Mark. Cynic, not popular? That’s almost as lolworthy as this list. Cynic has been headlining festivals across the nation and is embarking on large scale tours, Cynic’s reunion was one of the most anticipated events in Metal of the new millenium. Like I said, Cynic has influenced essentially the ENTIRE Canadian Tech DM scene, which is home to Augury, Quo Vadis, Aghora, etc.
I used albums sales only to bolster my point about Morbid Angel, over 1 million is an astronomical number, and even more so for the DM scene. Morbid Angel’s influence simply cannot be estimated. They’re one of the most important bands to ever come out of Florida. Let’s not forget Sandoval’s contribution to Thrash and DM drumming, the alternating blast.
I still contend that At The Gates is much more influential than CoB. ATG made the Melodic DM formula and refined it. Plus, your assertion that the Gothenburg sound is not “THE Melodic Death Metal sound” is absurd. Any Metal historian will tell you that the Gothenburg sound is the very ROOT of Melodic DM, In Flames and At The Gates exemplified this sound very early on.
127 Navik
March 21st, 2009 at 1:18 pm
theres too many variations in metal, prog, speed, thrash, death ect., never will be a list to satisfy everyone
128 TimB35
March 21st, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I’m not exactly sure what qualifies as death metal or not, but Sepultura is one of my favorite metal bands and one of the heaviest bands, along with Slayer, that I have ever heard, so I’m just throwing them out there. If they don’t qualify, oh well. They still kick a lot of ass.
129 chainsawboy9
March 21st, 2009 at 1:28 pm
What!? No Opeth!? what a travesty!
130 Bethany
March 21st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
“Death metal” sucks.
131 Kiribub
March 21st, 2009 at 1:38 pm
What? No Mariah Carey? That’s ridiculous. Just thinking of her singing brings thoughts of death and destruction.
132 ringtailroxy
March 21st, 2009 at 1:42 pm
my death metal days are long gone… but even I had to question why Cannibal Corpse is on here and not Obituary or Sepultura…
I was 13 when I fell for a drummer in a local DM band. Nuff’ said…it was all teased hair, black mascara (which I still am addicted to today), spansex tights, boots with steel toes, and insane stage diving & head banging. seriously. me.
nothing against the genre, but it wasn’t me. found that out the first time I got elbowed simply standing in the ring surrounding a mosh pit.
I’ll have to sample Between The Buried And Me-never heard of them…
rtr
133 Niall
March 21st, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Thank you @ 127. 92′s comment made my head explode. CoB owe EVERYTHING to At the Gates.
To everyone else, if the list said 10 best metal bands (all genres) then obviously the results would be much different in these comments. The point is that it said DEATH metal which many of these bands are simply NOT death metal at all. That’s not “being an elitist asshole” or snobbery or anything, that is simply pointing out that the list DOES NOT reflect it’s title.
134 T.J.
March 21st, 2009 at 1:59 pm
97. Mark
what are you missing?
taste.
I realize i did the “poor man’s” remark twice but both times were justified. Behemoth completely rips off Nile’s style, yeah a little bit of black in there, but the singer even writes the paragraphs in the booklet about the songs and his trips to Egypt, it’s almost plagiarism. The difference between death metal and deathore are not unlike the differences between, well, Slayer and say, limp Bizkit. Both of those bands are metal right? If you like one you have to like the other by your logic.
135 T.J.
March 21st, 2009 at 2:04 pm
After reading the comments, I have to say this as well.
If you don’t like death metal and don’t want to talk about genres stop commenting. You just look like an idiot who has an opinion about something you know nothing about.
Also, BTBAM is straight up deathcore (or maybe mallcore). If you have the balls to say it’s prog or anything else, you need to be educated a little bit and shop for music outside of hot topic.
136 PhonSiE
March 21st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Gorguts
137 greengoopfromheaven
March 21st, 2009 at 2:54 pm
HORRIBLE…… HOORRRRRRIBLE….. i only agreed with two bands on this list. wow….. death metal and black metal are very different. and wow.
138 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
You guys know why I called the list top DEATH METAL bands? Its cause death metal sounds cool. Obviously there are different kinds of metal but guess what? No one cares about all the different cores, grinds, doom, prog, black, hardcore… So what if BTBAM is not strictly Death Metal. They have songs that definitely include death metal elements. And before you suggest bands that should be on the list read the top. I dont care if people disagree with my picks but at least have something legit to back it up with. Keep in mind this list is supposed to be fun so dont get your panties up in a bunch.
139 Macabre
March 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pm
What about Dismember? I think they deserve to be on this list.
140 Kris
March 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I LOVE EVERY BAND ON THIS LIST.
141 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Kris is awesome
142 Brad
March 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
@ T.J. – Wow, all this time I thought BTBAM was progressive! I must be uneducated. Yeah, it’s not like they played on the Progressive Nation tour with Dream Theater and Opeth, or anything like that. Yeah, no way they’re prog. Oh wait…
You obviously have no technical musical knowledge or even any knowledge about the genre of metal. Deathcore? That’s a stretch. BTBAM doesn’t rely on breakdowns (unless the song flows into it), so I guess the “core” element is out. They are prog metal. I know their whole discography by heart, so I wouldn’t challenge my knowledge of them if I were you…
143 Pieter
March 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
@ General Tits
You could have easily just said top 10 metal acts.
Don’t get butthurt over something you failed to realize
144 seebe
March 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
there’s a reason why it’s underground. if you’ve read the influential metal bands list a while back, you shouldn’t be surprised. the title is just begging to be inaccurate.
145 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 21st, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Brad knows what he is talking about. And Pieter, I guess I could have called it that, but thats not what this list is so suck a left one.
146 AshleyR
March 21st, 2009 at 5:14 pm
i like all of those!! great list haha
147 K
March 21st, 2009 at 5:29 pm
lol @ the sense of injustice all these death metal fans are feeling.
148 Gary Busey Is God
March 21st, 2009 at 5:38 pm
@143, Brad. BTBAM has LOADS of breakdowns. They have some Progressive elements (time changes, loads of needless wankery), but they are largely a Metalcore band.
149 pilkington
March 21st, 2009 at 5:45 pm
art garfunkel
150 seebe
March 21st, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Genres are not mutually exclusive. Just because btbam are metalcore due to their breakdowns, doesn’t mean they can’t be classified as progressive.
151 Mark
March 21st, 2009 at 6:59 pm
127. Gary Busey Is God : Don’t treat me like an idiot, Cynic are not that popular, even if you would like to think so. So, wait a second, I don’t come from Seattle so I can’t play Grunge? Are you going to completey ignore bands based on their geographical location? That’s crap.
135. T.J. : Yeah ok I see now, Behemoth writes about Egypt and so does Nile, well obviously Nile must be better. Your comment actually made me laugh and I still argue the same point “Zeppelin is a poor man’s Purple” because, well, that’s what you’re saying. Ok, I get it, you like Nile better, that DOES NOT make them superior to Behemoth anywhere but in your mind. So unless you’ve got something decent to add instead of the single aforementioned point…
139. General Tits Von Chodehoffen : Stop saying that crap, if you write a DEATH Metal list people are going to expect – suprise, suprise – Death Metal bands. Re-name it bloody “Top 10 Extreme Metal Bands I Like” if you want, but don’t act like we’re the people missing the point here when we tell you that Slayer isn’t DM.
By the way, why don’t we replace Slayer with Possessed? That seems a lot more Death Metal to me…
152 robby57
March 21st, 2009 at 7:01 pm
was so suprised to see BTBAM on the list! and at number 3!!
having them in it pretty much made the list.
okay they’re not as heavy as some bands on the list but they do have death metal elements and i totaly agree anybody who hasn’t heard them or doesn’t like them listen to colours all the way through, you will not be disapointed.
great list!
153 Rascalian
March 21st, 2009 at 7:19 pm
interesting list, as metalhead i cannot agree with the list 100% but hey, i’m not going to bitch like everyone else (maybe they should’ve made the list themselves) but it was a good list nonetheless. Oh and Dethklok is a real band (as real as the Gorillaz) and they put on an awesome show. Throw the horns!
154 Brad
March 21st, 2009 at 8:21 pm
@ Gary Busey: Just because they have the occasional breakdown (I never said that they didn’t, I said that they don’t rely on them too heavily, and only include them when appropriate), doesn’t make them exclusively metalcore. They have elements of metalcore because their progressive writing flows into it from time to time.
Yes, they are prog. That’s not up for debate. They are the one of the most progressive band I’ve ever heard (progressive meaning complex and technical as well as moving through various genres).
@ General tits: Right on dude, your list is legit, don’t listen to what these mindless drones are saying.
155 WetOwls
March 21st, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Krisiun? … awesome list still.
156 youngchuck72
March 21st, 2009 at 8:38 pm
i looked at some lyrics by cannibal corpse
and they are very disturbing
im surprised thier allowed to record that stuff
its not cool at all :/
157 Brad
March 21st, 2009 at 8:40 pm
@ youngchuck: Hahaha! Noob. You have no idea how common lyrics like that are within death metal, do you?
158 mandysparky
March 21st, 2009 at 8:42 pm
what about Hate Breed, Slipknot, Korn?
159 Gary Busey Is God
March 21st, 2009 at 8:49 pm
@152, Mark. I grew up in Florida, I grew up as these bands were first coming about, and let me say that Cynic is indeed incredibly popular. Judging from your misguided analogy, you probably assumed Cynic is Canadian, when in fact Cynic is a Floridian band. So, yes, I now have firm ground to assume that you have no idea about what Cynic is and what music they played and how they shaped DM in the years to come. The Metal community was on fire with discussion at the announcement of a Cynic reunion and new material being released. Like I said, they’re on a large scale tour and continue to headline festivals.
@155, Brad. Reliance on breakdowns is not a main characteristic of Metalcore. Breakdowns are there, but they do not define Metalcore. Case in point, Botch, Leeway, Converge, Slapshot, and other early Metalcore bands.
160 Brad
March 21st, 2009 at 8:59 pm
@ Gary Busey: Those early metalcore bands defined the genre, however, it has changed since then. Breakdowns have become a pivotal aspect of metalcore, deathcore, and hardcore (pretty much anything with “core”).
161 Eugene
March 21st, 2009 at 9:07 pm
I cannot believe no one mentioned Simon and Garfunkle, or Elton John. I must be living in a box.
162 yaarghmaargh
March 21st, 2009 at 9:16 pm
I know this doesn’t fit the criteria, but you got to give a little bit of slack.
CYNIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
163 Tj
March 21st, 2009 at 9:45 pm
143. Brad
Bands play on a Vans tour, but they aren’t shoes
follow me?
164 Brad
March 21st, 2009 at 9:48 pm
@ Tj
People use stupid metaphors to manufacture credibility, but they don’t have any. Follow me?
165 This List Is Bullshit
March 21st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Are you kidding me?
First off, POSSESSED created Death Metal, NOT Death.
Secondly, Mastodon, Between The Buried And Me, Slayer, and Children of Bodom are NOT DEATH METAL
Thirdly, this list otherwise fails. Only good death metal bands on the list are Death, Deicide, and Cannibal Corpse.
166 Tj
March 21st, 2009 at 10:10 pm
152 Mark,
Nile is the more influential band, Behemoth is the more popular band. Behemoth, in it’s current incarnation, would not exist without Nile, and not the other way around.
In March 2003 metal hammer put Nile’s “in their darkened shrines” at 19 in the top 50 extreme metal albums of all time. Behemoth were still trying to get known with their earlier works, which did not become well known until demigod came out, 3 years after said above release mind you. Behemoth played a mix of black and death metal, which was good, since black metal was the leading popular style of extreme music at the time (these are the same couple of years that say major label releases from the main black metal acts and headlining tours by Dimmu Borgir and the like). So while Nile was trying to breath new life into a classic death metal approach, behemoth, while good, were sucking up the audience by being more approachable and catering to popular themes at the time, while also bringing in the eastern references the same way Nile has many years previous. For me influence is vastly more important than popularity. In a decade only one of these bands will be remembered, and in my opinion the influential band will stay and the popular one will fade away.
167 ben
March 21st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Pissy flamers converge on this post, but i for one am gonna give kudos for slayer. No im not gonna say they invented it or anywhere near that, but when slayer was doin their shit it sounded to people of the time about as heavy as some of this does now. Not to mention they set a lot of minds on the right track.
168 Tj
March 21st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
165 brad
nope, thanks for ripping off my joke instead of saying something worthwhile
169 oouchan
March 21st, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Ok…without yelling at me….where does Slipknot fall? My kid got me hooked on them.
170 Garey Busey Is God
March 21st, 2009 at 10:49 pm
@161, Brad. To put it frankly, your logic is bullshit. Using your same logic, Sabbath, Candlemass, Priest, Maiden, Motorhead, and Megadeth are not Metal. There’s two different “types” of Metalcore. One that embraces the Metal side, and one that embraces the -core side. The bands that embrace the -core side use breakdowns. The bands that embrace the Metal side, generally do not.
Hardcore Punk is still largely free of breakdowns in the modern sense.
171 Tj
March 22nd, 2009 at 12:06 am
170 oouchan
numetal and then later in their career they added metalcore influences
172 Chris
March 22nd, 2009 at 12:16 am
For everyone who mentioned OPETH!! Yeah! the are having a US tour starting in May. Got my tickets for May 2 in Boston
173 Gabtinha
March 22nd, 2009 at 12:55 am
We have a saying in Brazil: “Taste is like ass, everyone’s is different.” having said that, I wonder why Carcass and Entombed are not on the list. But I liked this list, made me have a listen to bands that probably I would never do otherwise.
174 wolvesofodin
March 22nd, 2009 at 1:10 am
I was extremely excited when I saw this list…until the words actually started hitting my brain. First of all if you were going to include bands that even you admitted were not death metal why would you title the list the way that you did? I could see something like “the top ten heavy bands of all time” or something like that but death metal this is not. I know the list is your opinion and I respect that but coming from someone that started to listen to death metal in its very early stages and continues to do so to this day I think this list is way off. I would have had something like this:
1. Death-may not have started the genre but were the most influential
2. Cannibal Corpse-Still one of the biggest death metal bands out there…hell they were in Ace Ventura…lol.
3. Slayer-though technically not death metal, they influenced the genre enough to be able to be included (this would almost make me put Venom on here)
4. Possessed-This is the band that started it all
5. Entombed-Their first two albums influenced an entire countries (Sweden) way of playing death metal.
6. Deicide-Have been going strong for years and show no chance of stopping.
7. Obituary-At the beginning of the surge in death metal they were at teh forefront.
8. Morbid Angel-Heavily influencial to the darker side of death metal…plus they used one of their songs on Beavis and Butthead.
9. Sepultura- This band brought the whole South American scene into the mix.
!0. Carcass- With their medical lyrics they paved a new path in death metal.
Honorable mentions: Pestilence, Gorguts, Malevolant Creation, Bolt-thrower, Meshuggah.
175 LeadingtheRats
March 22nd, 2009 at 1:14 am
WHERE’S MORBID ANGEL OR POSSESSED?
176 Horgen
March 22nd, 2009 at 1:16 am
#175 wolvesofodin
You took the words out of my mouth and I totally agree on everything you wrote! You should have written this list instead!
177 chainsawboy9
March 22nd, 2009 at 1:49 am
yes, i do not think this list was truly a death metal top 10 list at all! glad slayer and Between the Buried and Me were on there. i think BTBAM is more prog-deathcore. which is kinda what is so great about where music, especially metal in all its forms, is going nowadays. into the unclassifiable. that’s why i love opeth and BTBAM. if you wanted the #1 death metal band out today it is still Cannibal Corpse. i feel that they define death metal. If you are gonna include Deathcore bands, you definately need KillWhitneyDead in there. i do hope whoever reads this checks them out! KWD is extremely intense, but not death metal. deathcore! not quite the same. glad Dethklok was there at least. and not even a real band! it seems all the bands that were pointed out had why they were not death metal band pointed out in a way, so which ones are? Bloodjihn is another good new one to check out. btw, NC Metal is the best out here now! we have KillWhitneyDead, Knives exchanging hands, Dreamscapes of the Perverse, and bloodjihn right now with many more local, original bands with death metal influence (such as Nyos). What about GWAR? a bunch of guys that dress up as monsters and play songs about murder and war and rape? what is more death metal then that? and they’ve been around for like 20 years, and always stayed underground (except for being on the jerry springer show in the now infamous shock-rock episode.) this list is almost worse than the top 10 politically powerful families. should be taken down and posted again in my humble opinion? it really needs to be a top 20 or 25 to include all the greats. and Opeth should be #1 in my mind
178 oouchan
March 22nd, 2009 at 2:12 am
172. Tj…thanks!
179 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 2:35 am
160. Gary Busey Is God : Yes, when you were growing up they probably were very popular. But not among the young ‘uns today – like me, I personally love them though
– so lasting influence is the issue for me.
167. Tj : People have to know of them first for their influence to be remembered. Mountain were more influential than Purple, but how many people have heard of Mountain?
170. oouchan and 172. Tj : Yeah probably Nu Metal as you said, but it’s a poor excuse for the genre. I think that if you wanted to try and define them as any real genre it would have to be Metalcore – but Rap was a large part of their first album – simply because Nu Metal doesn’t even hint at the type of music they actually play, so I don’t really think it even constitutes a genre per se.
171. Garey Busey Is God : Umm, it’s called MetalCORE for a reason, it needs Hardcore Punk elements – whatever they may be. Sure some people “embrace” one side more, but you do need both to tag -core onto the end. In saying that you do have a good point that a breakdown isn’t necessary, but it is usual in Metalcore.
175. wolvesofodin : Great list, except for bloody Slayer. Would you seriously put Sabbath on a Doom Metal list? Get over Slayer’s influence and put DEATH Metal bands on there.
180 oouchan
March 22nd, 2009 at 2:40 am
180. Mark….ewwww….they did rap? hate that stuff. Have never found one [song?] that I could even concider as music. It’s just fast talking, IMHO. But thanks for clarifing!
181 oouchan
March 22nd, 2009 at 2:42 am
*consider & *clarifying
(we so need spell check around here)
182 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 2:43 am
181. oouchan : I hate it too, but listen to “Only One” off the self-titled album. B-E-A-U-tiful, despite the rapping
183 wolvesofodin
March 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 am
You know I did get to thinking after I posted my list….and you are right Slayer, as fantastic as they are do not belong on this list. Also as I was thinking I had a whole slew of bands pop in to my head that I had forgotten to mention, but I will leave that for another day I think. I guess that would put Pestilence on to my list. They were very influential in their early days and their album Testimony of the Ancients was a phenomenal album, even if they did stray in their later years.
184 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 3:33 am
184. wolvesofodin : Oh yeah, one convinced, a couple of million to go
185 wolvesofodin
March 22nd, 2009 at 3:39 am
I am able to admit when I have been a little misguided.
Unlike some others in the world it appears.
186 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 3:44 am
186. wolvesofodin : Yeah *both glare at General Tits Von Chodehoffen*
187 CurtShmurt
March 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 am
You guys are all thinking about all this shit too much. Relax guys and listen to this Maori tune:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLBlcFfVfno
188 CurtShmurt
March 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 am
By the by, I’ve heard of Hyperion…my chumbo thinks they’re boss…
189 Croswell
March 22nd, 2009 at 4:07 am
I am a huge metal fan and I feel while it may not have every band I love it is an excellent starting point for anyone interested in the genre.
Yes it spands the board a bit when it comes to “metal” but these bands are all on the fringes of the sub genre that is “death metal”. Hence the criteria no one bothered to look at, at the start of the list.
Taste is subjective.
This is someones picks.
Well thought out and well researched.
Wars are fought over differences in opinion when it comes to important things like politics and religion. Death metal….mmmm not so much.
And if one more person slams Behemoth I will piss in your eyes. HHAHAH
190 chaosinc
March 22nd, 2009 at 4:18 am
I will be one of the people who says “thanks for having the balls and taking the time to put together a good list”. Although I got out of the death metal scene ten years ago, I’m still a lover of all music, and am quite familiar with all of these. The only omission that I’ve found is the godfather of death/black metal… King Diamond. But he was around when many of these bands were still shitting green.
Gen. T.- I’m from the Penn/Oh border and work in pitt. Lemme know when the next show is… Good show at Chugger’s in Chester, W.Va next sat. My band is opening for a newer band out of Cleve.
191 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 am
190. Croswell : No, most people did look at the criteria. Just most intelligent people noticed at that point that this list was just going to be a collection of bands the author thinks is sweet. Considering the title “Top 10 Death Metal Bands” you can understand why some of us didn’t quite like the idea of that in the list?
192 Mick
March 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 am
what about Dimmu?
193 Dave
March 22nd, 2009 at 5:02 am
Listing the top death metal bands is like listing the smartest kids at summer school.
The finest shit in the world is still shit.
194 Crimanon
March 22nd, 2009 at 6:23 am
Mark (80): That’s why I said “complain (productively).”
195 Brad
March 22nd, 2009 at 7:03 am
@ Tj: Right, your statement was sooooo worthwhile and informative. I really learned a lot.
@ Gary Busey: I don’t think you’re getting what I’m saying. I never said that the bands you listed weren’t metalcore. I said that in metalcore’s current state, breakdowns and are pretty much key. Genres change, you know. You said that there are bands that lean towards the “metal side” (they are metal bands), and bands that lean towards the “core side” (hardcore bands). True metalcore bands fall in between those two categories, hence metalcore is a genre. True, some metalcore has more emphasis on melody, but still not on the level of prog.
196 philft
March 22nd, 2009 at 7:35 am
where is Burzum?
197 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 am
197. philft : Incarcerated
P.S. Burzum is Black Metal anyway
198 Shadow
March 22nd, 2009 at 8:41 am
GREAT LIST!!! While I may or may not agree with the contents, I am happy to have found, in the list and in the comments, some new stuff to look for. Thank you for that!
@ gg – If you don’t like it, leave. People like you are the reason we have censorship. Bah! If only eugenics were still practiced…
199 Captain Sassy Sillytits
March 22nd, 2009 at 9:33 am
@ RolandofGilead: Awesome username.
In general: YAY DETHKLOK!!
200 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 22nd, 2009 at 10:00 am
175 wolvesofodin I think if this was a real death metal list that one is pretty good. I would also like to say Im sorry to all the people that wanted to read a list about death metal. You obviously started reading the top of the list and realized there would be a few bands you do not like on it but somehow had to keep reading. At the end of it all you were so disgusted that you had to let out all your anger in the comments. You also probably had trouble sleeping and may even experience gastronomical problems for a week or so. To bad you didnt make the criteria this list was based on d bags. Also every band on here has some deathmetal elements in their music
201 Mom424
March 22nd, 2009 at 10:47 am
General Tits VC: I was wondering when you would make an appearance. Great job for your first list even though I know nothing of DeathMetal or its’ related genres. I do now. What’s for an encore?
202 7raul7
March 22nd, 2009 at 10:47 am
Cradle of Filthhhhh !!!
& I think Kanye/50/Em/Sn00p should be added too, atleast an honourable mention. Only beacause of their ultra-shitty, no music c(rap), today we have the popular & truly musical genre known as death metal :p
203 Tj
March 22nd, 2009 at 11:03 am
180 Mark
I feel that if one of the largest metal music publications lists you as one of the most important acts of the genre, then people know who you are.
196. Brad
you are a moron, if you want to play this game where you get the last word, go ahead and have it. I’ve tried both stating my points from an informed standpoint as well as just pointing out the blatantly mentally handicapped ways that you’ve come to your conclusions and really it’s like arguing with a 5 year old who simply responds every time with “na uh”. I sincerely hope you are a troll and not this stupid, please be my guest and believe that your favorite band is whatever kind of genre you want it to be.
204 Gary Busey Is God
March 22nd, 2009 at 11:57 am
@196, Brad. There are still many Metalcore bands that don’t use breakdowns. Breakdowns are oftentimes present in Metalcore, but are not the defining characteristic or focal point of the music. Furthermore, given the way you refer to Hardcore, I don’t think you really know what Hardcore is. Hardcore is Agnostic Front, Minor Threat, Black Flag, Cro-Mags, Fugzai, Judge, etc., NOT Black Dahlia Murder, Job For A Cowboy, etc.
205 Lifeschool
March 22nd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
See! – even an obscure list still attracts so much attention. There is nothing wrong with obscure or ‘fans’ lists – as they still can give a broad insight to the lives of people everywhere. Thats what I like about the Lv – its diverse. I once had my favourite list printed about the game music on the classic Amiga computer. In that case, there were few responses, but it was a great list – and many said so. Is a good list marked on how many comments it gets? Hopefully not. But this list proves that you have to cast your grain far-afield in order to reap so much in return. Besides, a lot of the hottest list ideas have already been done to death (pun) already.
206 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 22nd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Mom424 Im glad you liked the list. Ill find something new and cool that is sure to piss off someone
207 ryan
March 22nd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
SUFFOCATION.
208 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
This list is pathetically lacking, and a few of those bands aren’t even death metal.
209 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 1:10 pm
btw I’m a different Mark than the ones in the other comments…
210 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
The ones that aren’t death metal would be…
Arch Enemy
Mastodon
Slayer
Between the Buried and Me
Children of Bodom
211 wolvesofodin
March 22nd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Mr. Tits…my comments were not made in anger but more in confusion. I understand that these bands have elements of death metal in them, and I understand the point you were trying to make. Unfortunately I just did not agree with some of your choices…that is the beauty of having an opinion, they sometimes differ. I just chose to put a more traditional list up. Either way, I still am happy to see a list dedicated to the heavier side of music.
212 lomez
March 22nd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Mastodon, death metal? Okayyyy. Even though I agree with the #1, this list lost all credibility when I saw Mastodon
213 NickChuck
March 22nd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
This list sort of just seems like “My top ten favorite metal bands”, so, meh, I’ll just add some more of my favorite bands, in no particular order. I like most of the ones on your list so I’ll leave those out:
Lamb of God, Darkest Hour, Still Remains, Protest the Hero, Pantera, Metallica, Iced Earth, The Haunted, As I Lay Dying, A Life Once Lost, All that Remains, Parkway Drive, The Black Dahlia Murder, Evergreen Terrace, Heaven Shall Burn. I’ll stop here but I can keep going. A lot.
Not all of these bands are “death” metal, but they certainly are some type of delicious delicious metal. Also, note the theme of including some variation or implication of death or dying in these band names.
214 Ty
March 22nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
No Despised Icon? This canadian band birthed an entire subgenre. Their lyrics are intelligent and their music ranges from fast, technical, and brutal, to slow, catchy and melodic. Great band.
215 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Wolveofodin Im glad you understand the point of this list and you seem to know whats up.
lomez I guess you cant read and only looked at the pictures.
NickChuck not sure what your trying to prove, but I dont even like all the bands on the list.
216 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
216. General Tits Von Chodehoffen : Lol, why didn’t you actually put DM bands on there so no-one complained then?
217 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 22nd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
217. Mark: Because doing the list my way makes a list of better bands and is like 10x cooler. And because Im awesome!
218 Bean
March 22nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
You ALL suck for listening to crappy Death Metal. It’s not even good music to begin with, let alone specific bands.
219 killpop99
March 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
How can you include Arch Enemy and not Carcass? Where is Morbid Angel, they are perhaps the most influential death metal band, maybe only second to Death. And Mastodon? Are you kidding. How are they even death metal? They are just a stoner rock band, not metal at all.
220 killpop99
March 22nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
And no Suffocation? This list wouldn’t be any more ridiculous if it had The Jonahs Brothers, and Nickelback on it. The disclaimer at the top should say: “I know I named the list the Top 10 Death Metal Bands, but I really don’t like most death metal, so here is a list of my favorite bands instead.” At least then you wouldn’t look like an idiot.
221 Obelisk
March 22nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Agreed. But I think he was meaning Best Death Metal loosely and included other bands that he likes. There is a line when saying best death metal bands based on historical influence and popularity. Whitney Houston Sold a shitload of records but did nothing for the music scene except sell a bunch of cds that people got tired of after a year. As far as classifying, just use your brain, you can’t say Limp Bizkit is metal because you like them and they pump you up or that Beck is gangsta rap. Listen to what you want and ignore what other people say just don’t make up facts.
222 illegal_immigrant
March 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
I don’t generally like most death metal, but I hail you for adding Dethklok as a bonus. Pure awesomeness. Shit yeah.
223 Elitist
March 22nd, 2009 at 5:06 pm
What a horrible list.
Children of Bodom, Between the Buried and Me, Slayer and Mastodon are not even death metal. Behemoth can be argued as they are blackened death NOW but started as a black metal band.
The author of this list does not know what he is talking about and it should be deleted.
224 joeyjoejoejrshabadoo
March 22nd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Failure to include Morbid Angel, Nile, Carcass, Opeth, Immolation, At the Gates, Cryptopsy, and the Crown on this list makes your metalness highly questionable.
The metal gods frown upon you, general tits von whatever.
225 jajingna
March 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Music, religion, and a few other things I guess: these are topics people will never agree on, too personal and various
226 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 22nd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Elitist- Explain to me why, by MY criteria, those bands shouldn’t be in the list and Ill stop assuming your age is in the single digits.
joeyjoejoej… – Kinda sort of agree with you, but at the same time read what I said to Elitist.
And to resolve (or rekindle) the debate on BTBAM, they are most definitely progressive.
227 Ginger
March 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
What about Mayhem?
228 Marie
March 22nd, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Where’s mutilated? beheaded? castration? the Black Death? Stalin’s Scrotum? Ted Bundy’s Killing Again? Chaos? decapitated? Molested? and no Analrapists? (pronounced AH-NAL-raw-Pist)
229 Marie
March 22nd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
And yes, those are all made up names, I couldnt’ help but notice how all the names of these bands (for the most part) seemed pretty formulaic and generic…
230 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
227. General Tits Von Chodehoffen : Or just write better criteria…. Why did you have to call it DM when you obviously had no intention to write DM? Couldn’t you see the arguments etc?
228. Ginger : What about recommending a DEATH Metal band?
229. Marie : Rofl, I don’t know about everyone else but I found that last bracket hilrious :’D
231 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
230. Marie : Yeah, they are for the most part, but probably not the place to mention it – brace for metalhead impact “my favourite bands name is awesum, you just don’t know DEATH METAL!!!1″.
You went with Stalin’s Scrot over Hitler’s Rect, what gives
232 Brad
March 22nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
@ Gary busey: Right on dude. I think at this point we’re completely digressing from the original argument. I think we’re both on the same page as far as differences between the genres. I mean, it’s fairly common knowledge amongst metal fans (or so I thought until I read some of the comments on here. uugh). I think we just listen to it a bit differently. I can confidently say that btbam is prog, so no use arguing that further.
@ Tj: You’re a tool. A total tool. You still haven’t written to me a single informed sentence to back up your original argument that they are deathcore or “mallcore”. What makes them either of those genres and not progressive metal? Can’t think of anything? Not surprised…
233 lomez
March 22nd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
216 – If its a Death Metal list, shouldn’t it be Death Metal bands? That’s like putting a sprinter on a baseball player list cause he can run fast.
234 rgonzo
March 22nd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Man this list is horrible. Only 3 of these bands would qualify as death metal; Death, Deicide, and Slayer (maybe. I consider them more thrash than anything)
235 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 10:18 pm
235. rgonzo : Wow, way to sound elitist and oh so stupid. I believe you forgot a little group called Cannibal Corpse…
236 Paulb
March 22nd, 2009 at 10:28 pm
I don’t listen to too much death metal, but Dimmu Borgir is pretty cool
237 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 10:45 pm
237. Paulb : Also Black Metal, we should start keeping count of all of the BM bands mentioned by ignorants…
238 rolf
March 22nd, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Death metal sounds so crap these days in any case for the most part too many blast beats, deep guttural vocals with no feeling behind them, stagnant guitar riffs – gone are the days of early Entombed, Bolt Thrower, At The Gates, Amorphis, Dismember, Malevolent Creation etc, instead it’s gone all Suffocation-style, ie crap.
I predict that just like black metal and thrash metal made comebacks, old-school death metal in the vein of Autopsy, Death and Possessed will make a comeback, too, sans unneeded blast beats and a bucketload of cheese.
239 rolf
March 22nd, 2009 at 11:21 pm
And I’d probably put Demelich on this list, just for having the weirdest death metal vocals that I’ve ever heard.
240 rolf
March 22nd, 2009 at 11:26 pm
“Chuck Schuldiner is the father of death metal for a reason. Death is the band that started death metal plain and simple. Aside from starting the genre this list is based on, the music they make is simply beautiful. It is obvious that Chuck pours his heart into his music. Some of the things he plays will really stick with you.”
Besides the fact that Death did NOT start death metal, you do realize that Chuck has ceased to be, right? Even your English grammar is horrendous.
241 Mark
March 22nd, 2009 at 11:27 pm
239. rolf : Yeah, and one day Hendrix will rise from the dead and drop all of those pesky guitar solos he used to play and start using a synthesizer…
242 wolvesofodin
March 22nd, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Ah…I love how the comments for this list keep going on. And I love how some people are able to bring up some of the great old death metal bands like dismember, Autopsy and Malevolant Creation. After reading this list when it came out and seeing so many of the bands mentioned I sat around and listened to some of the old greats myself while I did my college homework. Nothing better than some ear shattering music while doing accounting homework.
243 Rii
March 23rd, 2009 at 12:25 am
i like 4,6,7, & 8…heh
244 Shagrat
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:00 am
General Tits von Chodenhoffen wrote in comment 217. Mark: Because doing the list my way makes a list of better bands and is like 10x cooler. And because Im awesome!
An appropriate reply can come only from the immortal Sean Connery aka Capt. John Mason; Her Majesty’s S.A.S. in “The Rock”:
” . . . it’s an act of lunacy, General Sir. Personally, I think you’re a fucking idiot.”
245 Shagrat
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:05 am
GTVC – you also said (#99): And you guys are right Carcass should have gotten an honorable mention. My band actually just played with them in Cleveland
You name-dropping wanker: get your hand off your #14
246 ligeia
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:20 am
Hmmm, I don’t think I can add much to these comments other than to say I would cut out most of these and include bands like Bolt Thrower, Nile, Cephalic Carnage (ok they’re death grind….), Autopsy (how could you forget??)etc. A lot of bands may have been influenced by Slayer but I would not put them in a death metal list. Ok, so who’s up for a list of black metal bands?
247 Elitist
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:14 am
Generaltitsvondumbass:
I am not assuming anything by your flawed criteria. As I mentioned over half this list IS NOT DEATH METAL. PLAIN. SIMPLE. FACT.
SLAYER-THRASH-http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=72
BTBAM-METALCORE-http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5299
CoB-Mismashed crap-http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=22
MASTODON-GROOVE METAL-http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=1361
248 Acula
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:43 am
I do think it’s a little weird that you make a list called top 10 Death Metal bands and then preface by saying that you have purposely picked bands that aren’t death metal because they are popular……how does that make any sense? I certainly am not qualified to argue the finer points of what bands should be where but I will agree with anyone who thinks that Mastodon shouldn’t belong on a death metal list.(I can tell that from spending a few hours reading about metal on wiki and listening to 4 Mastodon songs)
At least you gave a nod to Dethklok
249 rolf
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:09 am
I vote this worst list of the year – wait, I just realized that Rod Stewart, as he uses drums and sings in his music, also has ‘elements’ of death metal in his tunes.
You win, General Tits.
250 Mark
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:14 am
249. rolf : Yeah, Zeppelin were always my fave Black Metal act
251 Vaami
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 am
Finland Finland Finland . . . . The Death Metal Capitol of the world. I don’t even like the stuff, but choose any band from Finland and I guarantee it will be Death Metal!
252 Egg
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 am
Yes for Dethklok, Cannibal Corpse and Necrophagist (listening to the latter on my Zen right now).
I guess Dimmu isn’t dm? Neither is Satyricon? But then again, neither is Slayer so…
Metal music is a bitch to categorize XD
253 Bob
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:47 am
More like Children of Boredom.
This stuff isn’t music. Or if it is, it’s only BAD music.
254 bucslim
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:50 am
I thought Leo Sayer and Carole King were pretty hardcore.
255 DHG
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:59 am
At first I was happy to finally see a list related to extreme metal. Then I actually read the list. This was terrible.
256 Mark
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:04 am
252. Vaami : There’s some sick Black Metal going down in Scandinavia as well.
253. Egg : Dimmu and Satyricon = Black Metal, a bit too high pitched for me…
254. Bob : Probably the most intelligent place to share that opinion…
255. bucslim : w00t lEo, Australia represent
256. DHG : You and the rest of the DM fans that frequent LV
257 sikamikanica
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:10 am
What a cool list, thanks for writing it! That plus the comments have tons of suggestions I’m happy to have discovered, though some I have at home (death…)and just haven’t given the time to take a listen.
DO YOU FOLKS LIKE COFFEE??????????
258 bucslim
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 am
And James Taylor, Dan Fogelberg, and England Dan and John Fort Coley because I’d really like to see you tonight. I also though the Starland Vocal Band really shredded it with Afternoon Delight.
259 Maggot
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:59 am
248 Elitist: “Generaltitsvondumbass” LOL hilarious.
General – for someone who was whining about the lack of a death metal list for as long as you were, I can’t believe you botched it this badly.
260 robby57
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:06 am
sorry but one band is missing
CARNIFEX!!!!!
anybody disagree go jump in a river
261 bucslim
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 am
Well after reading some of the comments on this list, and from experience, I’d like to say that some of y’all don’t know how hard it is to write one. Sure it’s easy to bitch and moan about your particular problem with whatever you think is missing or mis-categorized.
It’s true some of these lists are better researched and have more factual information in the blurbs, but this stuff isn’t easy to complete. I’ve done my share of bitching on this site, particularly when I think someone has been really sloppy or played hard and fast with the facts. But after writing and submitting a couple of lists that had some flaws on them of my own doing, I realized that you just can’t make everybody happy with your selections no matter how hard you try.
Just a couple of weeks ago I got into with the General and basically told him to write the list instead of suggesting it a million times, and here it is. I know dick about death metal and quite frankly, couldn’t care less if he left Band X off the list. But I see plenty of spazzing out about it.
So now I want you to listen up all you spawn of Lemmy, if you think it’s ok to piss all over something like Grampa hooked up to an IV of Flowmax, go home and try to write one of these things yourself. Research it for a couple of weeks, write the blurbs and submit it. You’ll soon find out like I did that these are harder to pull off than me on top of a naked Shakira.
And don’t think just because I said this stuff that I’m going to back away from idiots and morons, I still have a job to do here.
262 Brad
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:06 am
Okay, all you guys need to remember that the term “death metal” is typically used to refer to all forms of metal with harsh sounds and screaming by laypersons, similar to how most people refer to all electronic music as “techno”. It’s not correct, but that’s what common people know it by. The title of the list is fine.
263 Phil
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:05 am
This list is a fucking disgrace
Mastodon are NOT Death Metal
Slayer are NOT Death Metal. Furthermore they’ve done nothing but crap for 20 years now
Children of Boredom are NOT DM
Behemoth are boring and overrated
Arch Enemy is boring melodeath
Cannibal Corpse are the only legit entry on this list but that’s only due to their longevity, they’re quite mediocre at best.
Deicide had one good album
Necrophagist is pure wankery
I’m not going to comment on Deathlock
This list is a farce, any list of DM needs to mention bands from the Florida scene like Morbid Angel and Death, the Swedeath scene like Entombed and Dismember, further it also needs to mention the technical\progressive end of things like Gorguts, Atheist, Cynic etc,
Further, The Chasm and Immolation are the two best DM bands active at the moment
264 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 23rd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Wow I would have to say bucslim and Brad just summed that shit up
265 oouchan
March 23rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
I agree with bucslim on this one. Its a lot harder than you know to make your own list. Mine was extremly silly and it was supposed to be for humor only but many took it too seriously. How about letting up on the General?
btw…Happy Chip and Dip Day!
266 diogenes
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
So what that my comment from two mornings ago never went through, ie: was never moderated, ie: was omitted, ie: was moderated but omitted.
It looks like I’ll never know if I would of had any say so or change in the early current…most likely not. on both accounts and all accounts before.
musta been some sorta glitch in my hobo circuitry.
267 Klingon
March 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Hmm interesting list. Many outraged metal fans. I like Rammstein they are nice. But im mostly into hip hop/rock or a combination of them both!
268 Maggot
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
264 General: Wow I would have to say bucslim and Brad just summed that shit up
If by “shit” you mean “your list”, then yes.
(I’m just messing with you now dude, so don’t get your undies in a twist)
(that was for oouchan)
269 Davo
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Once again every tool and his dog has a problem with the list. haha
270 bigski
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Don`t know much about Death Metal either,but some of you guys need to lighten up.
Gen-Props for gitting your list out there. Tell the haters to suck it.
271 oouchan
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
268. Maggot: :p (tee, hee)
272 diogenes
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Is this your card?
wow
when you think its just lost in the shuffle?
presto!
some, what? six hours later?
a little disconcerting.
anyway it doesn’t matter now.
it’s like it was always there
except for my idiot afterthoughts.
here today, gone tomorrow
273 Josh Duron
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Well, in my opinion Between the buried and me is fucking retarted, as well as Mastodon.
Replace those two with Cradle of Filth and Opeth and that’s pretty much my death metal list.
Have to say it again ffs no Cradle of Filth?
274 Brad
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Hahahaha, Cradle of Filth? Seriously? Wow…
Opeth and Meshuggah definitely deserved to be on this list though, for influence, and general greatness.
275 wow
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 pm
wow so many death metal people arguing.
276 hahapafooza
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm
LOOK DUDES, we all know this list is horrifically out of line. to begin with, if you were not going to be specific about a genre like “death metal” then do not title the list “top 10 death metal bands”. A more appropriate list title i think we could all agree with would most certainly be “johnny boys favorite metal band list”. i guess the reason why so many richards are pissed off about this list is because of the precision of other lists(this one bumming out). we are all entitled to our own opinion so im just going to say that this list did disapoint me. whatever it doesnt make me an “elitist” to mention that. so on another note FUCKING RETITLE IT DUSH so we can all shut the hell up.
277 JoshuaB81285
March 24th, 2009 at 3:01 am
Kudos on including Bodom, Mastodon, Between the Buried And Me, & especially Dethklok; love all 4 of those bands. Slayer and Cannibal Corpse probably could have been a smidge higher, but I’m not that much of a fan of either one.
278 deadangst
March 24th, 2009 at 3:29 am
Whoa, I’m a heavy metal fan too, but I didn’t know that putting up a simple list would get so many people acting up like religious fanatics.
The list was great. The comments were great. I’ve had my fix of laughter and knowledge. And now I’ll get back to listening music & working.
Thanks General. Keep up the good work. Waiting for another controversial list.
Probably a list on the different genres of heavy music, and their founding fathers, what say? 
279 Matticus
March 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
If you’re going to announce a “top 10 DEATH METAL list” then do a top 10 DEATH METAL list. Don’t do a top 10 bands with (sometimes minor) DEATH METAL elements list (unless you name it as such).
other then that, cradle of filth deserves a spot above at least half those bands.
And what about Gorgoroth (at least back when Ghaal was in the band), come on, covering themselves in lamb’s blood and crucifying naked people during live shows is enough to earn them a spot!
p.s. cannibal corpse are awful, but I guess they’re more death metal then much of the others featured.
280 Matticus
March 24th, 2009 at 11:43 am
OH and if you haven’t heard of Darkest Hour, check that sh*t out!
Older sh*t = death metal.
Newer sh*t = melodic death metal.
All sh*t = amazing
281 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
deadangst- your awesome
Matticus- So your going to get mad about me not making it a strictly deathmetal list, then tell me to add two black metal bands? Your probably the dumbest person to comment on this list so far
282 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 24th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
O and Hahapafooza how about I being the “dush,” don’t rename the list and you still shut the hell up
283 Dan
March 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Glad to see Mastodon in here
But no Strapping young lad, soulfly or Meshuggah? I really think Meshuggah should be at least 2nd place…
Sorry to whinge, but as much as I love Cynic, they really aren’t death metal, they are prog metal, heavy empathise on the prog.
284 Mark
March 24th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
280. Matticus : Black Metal… What is with all these people suggesting Black Metal bands? Ok, CoF MAY have started out something close to Death, but since actually getting signed and releasing full-length albums it’s been Black all the way. And Gorgoroth, they were always Black….
Could I please just ask politely that if you’re going to recommend a band make sure they are Death Metal? Because to people who don’t listen to a lot of extreme metal – or only one genre of it – it can be hard to tell if they’re Black or Death, but there is a HUGE difference.
282. General Tits Von Chodehoffen : “deadangst- your awesome….” That’s right, cling on to everyONE – very heavy emphasis on one to highlight the vast amount – who actually likes the list and just ignore all the other completely rational and intelligent people telling you that you need to at least change the title. Then, after all of that, call someone else dumb… Hypocritical enough?
283. General Tits Von Chodehoffen : Or, just throwing it out there – seeing as the public opinion is definitely that this list is absolute garbage – you stop insulting people about not sheepishly agreeing with everything you say and reconsider your postition. “If everyone is saying “X” about my list, maybe I should think about changing it…. Naw, that would be smart”
285 Cernunnos
March 25th, 2009 at 1:59 am
what a shit list. arch enemy is mediocre crap that has only achieved its status because of gossow.
the only good thing about bodom is laiho.
mastadon? death metal? no
slayer is trash, and well overrated
Cannibal Corpse is well overrated and havent released a good album since “The Bleeding.” (except for make them suffer from Kill, but thats just one song.)
no Dark Tranquillity? the most poetic death metal band was left out?
no Blood Red Throne?
no Mayhem?
no Nile?
no Morbid Angel?
no Carcass?
Darkthrone?
Dissection?
Meshuggah?
Emeth?
Rotting Christ?
this list is fail.
286 Cernunnos
March 25th, 2009 at 2:04 am
i cant believe that even though im wearing one of their t-shirts, i forgot to mention Opeth. damn…
oh, and stop asking for cradle, they’re shit.
287 Cernunnos
March 25th, 2009 at 3:00 am
@Marie. Decapitated just so happens to be a rather good band, thank you very much.
Decapitated: http://metalstorm.ee/bands/band.php?band_id=478&bandname=Decapitated
and while there is no band called the black death, there is a BM band called 1349, being the year the black death came to Norway. (theyre really good too)
anal rapist does not sound familiar to me, but Anaal Nathrakh is the closest i can think of right now, though that means “Serpents Breath.” and nothing is more generic than Serpent.
288 Mark
March 25th, 2009 at 3:24 am
286. Cernunnos : Mayhem = BLACK METAL, therefore :
Your elitist attitude = Epic fail
At least if you’re going to barge in here saying everything is crap be smart about it. That is probably the most lolworthy thing I’ve seen all day, Mayhem… Death Metal…
By the way, hope you meant Slayer is Thrash, because if you meant trash you’re a lot more ignorant than you first appear. Not to mention overrated, what universe do you live in where Slayer get’s enough recognition, let alone the amount it deserves?
And I think the reason for Arch Enemy being big would actually be Michael Amott if you thought about it for more than 1 second…
289 zsasz
March 25th, 2009 at 4:50 am
from most of the comments, this list proves it…death metal houses some of the biggest whining douchebags as fans.
290 scottiebass
March 25th, 2009 at 5:14 am
Thanks for putting “DEATH” at #1…but of course, Chuck was the pioneer…
(…and a sad R.I.P. to our late comrade, who eventually succomed to a spinal tumour…).
…I was a (stand-in) member of “Pain Principal” while their bassist toured with Death (for the “Symbolic” album)…
291 Michael
March 25th, 2009 at 5:39 am
Many of these bands are complete rip-offs of great bands who were very innovative in their time. Arch Enemy? Children of Bodom? Please. Carcass and/or At The Gates rule the melodic death scene. Slayer is thrash, by the way. Everyone should know that. Necrophagist is only the latest in the tech death department. Does anyone remember Gorguts? Hell, Gorod is a newer technical band, but they still beat out Necrophagist.
292 Michael
March 25th, 2009 at 5:41 am
zsasz: Just because we care about our music of choice and its origins does not make us whiney. Douchebags, maybe… Probably… Almost certainly…
293 Mark
March 25th, 2009 at 5:49 am
292. Michael : And Death ripped off Possessed – the first Death Metal band without a doubt – who in turn ripped off Motorhead and Thrash bands who – in turn – ripped off Sabbath and Purple who ripped off Zeppelin, Mountain and Cream. If we’re going to start sniping bands for being influenced by others we’re going to be here for a while, why don’t we just settle with bagging the stupid inclusion of non-DM bands?
294 Cory Carter
March 25th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Slayer?????Love Slayer but they aren’t Death Metal.Influential to Death Metal yes but not Death Metal.If it was top 10 Extreme Metal bands Slayer could be on their.
Kerry is a shitty player and all but Dave Lombardo is the best Drummer in metal.And don’t argue that.Therefor they aren’t all bad musicians.Slayer is without a doubt the best Thrash band though.Slayer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$ellouttica.And Lar$ is the worst drummer of all time.Plus he such a fag.In every interview he’s always talking about his emoitons shit.And have you seen his new haircut.He’s got that Ben Franklin look now.Very creepy.
Kirk and Robert should leave Crapallica and join some decent band.They’re the only members still left that don’t blow.
Ok exit Metallica rant.
Not that shit of a list but CoB shouldn’t be on their and neither should Slayer just for the fact they aren’t Death Metal.
295 Maggot
March 25th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
294 Mark: …ripped off Zeppelin…
Just an aside – “Being influenced by”, “ripping off a style”, etc., is nothing compared to Zep’s outright plagiarism.
296 Gary Busey Is God
March 25th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
@296, Maggot. Zep never really plagiarized, they were the probably the greatest cover band of all time, but they had rights to every song they covered.
297 Maggot
March 25th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
297 Gary: “Rights”? Tell that to Willie Dixon, to name but one. I’m not talking about properly accredited “covers”.
298 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 25th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Hey Mark I was thinking about what you said about the list. Your right there have been a bunch of people who dont like the list, and maybe Im wrong. However on second thought I realize those people are about as smart as Ryan Seacrest’s ABC (ass ball connection for you bastards that dont know). Also my list is freakin awesome. Death metal is used in a loose sense because only about .187238% of the people in the world actually know a good bit about the different types of metal. Not to mention every band on here has some deathmetalness in their songs so suck it. As for me clinging on to everyONE (ya we got it without the explaination) who likes the list, what the hell did you expect? Of course I like the people who support the list. You really think I would take back everything I said in the list cause a few ass munchers couldn’t handle a few bands that they dont like? The only thing I regret about this list is calling Matticus the dumbest person to comment on it. Obviously this position has been filled by you.
299 roar
March 25th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Great list, horrible title. Just asking for trouble. This is not a death metal list at all, not even close. only three of the bands are actually death metal. sure, they’re all metal in some sense, but not death metal. sounds like the writer got in to metalocalypse last year and decided they were an expert on death metal all of a sudden. yeah, i would consider dethklok a death metal band, not a very good one, but a death metal band nonetheless. funny as hell though.
lay off the writer, it’s obviously a senior in high school doing some kind of project to graduate.
300 meshman
March 25th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
There are only 2 pure death metal bands on the list – Cannibal Corpse and Deicide, and honestly there are much better out there. OLD Cryptopsy and Gorguts, for example. And the list is missing some seriously obvious DM staples: Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Immolation, Deeds of Flesh – all CLASSIC, purist DM bands. I’m so sick of people ignorantly bunching a diverse range of (usually mainstream) metal bands under the death metal moniker. The rest is basically metalcore, or watered down sub-genres of DM.
Arch Enemy is extremely cheesy/terrible melodic metalcore (Yeah, they are officially labelled “melodic DM”, but that’s bullshit); Necrophagist is wanky Technical DM; Behemoth is essentially a Nile clone in black metal clothing with synth, which means they are “epic” brutal tech death; Children of Bodom is more cheesy melodic metalcore (Megaman music as I call it. And again, not real “melo Death”); Mastodon is barely even metal – this one just confounds me, I mean did you even listen to these bands? Anyway, they are essentially hard rock/metalcore; Slayer is thrash pure and simple; BTBAM are a “progressive” metalcore band with awful, awful clean singing. Death is really just a progressive metal band (maybe the prototypical DM band, but still doesn’t qualify), but they are good, I’ll give you that.
And Dethklok is a horribly unfunny “satire” of DM by people as ignorant as the writer of this list. Just setting the record straight.
301 roar
March 25th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
eh sorry for saying great list. meshman is right on some things. arch enemy is possibly the worst band to ever call themselves any sort of metal, and mastodon almost sounds anti-metal. i mean, they’re terrible nu-metal crap, the techy stuff is just production. slayer is a cop-out, everyone knows slayer is great and not death metal.
metalocalypse is funny. the band may suck and the guitar lines formulated off of lesson charts that one might receive at an elite music school, but the show is still funny…and bloody.
302 Mark
March 25th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
299. General Tits Von Chodehoffen : Forgive me for assuming a lack of intelligence, but everyone else thought that too – see assuming you have public opinion is so easy, even I can do it and I’m the first to admit that I’m not the most likable person. Wow, you can call me stupid without any evidence whatsoever to back up a poor and aggressive assumption, I’m shaking in my boots. you could’ve picked almost any negative adjective to describe me – whiney, annoying, picky etc. – and yet you manage to pick the one that you can’t find any evidence to support. Does that maybe hint at which one of us is a bit lacking in mental capacity?
Your list is “freakin awesome” is it? I truly am glad – with no sarcasm or jest – that you like it, but why upload it here if even you notice it’s not really objective? The title is the only thing that seems wrong with this list, I know it may be hard for you to believe, but I actually like all of these bands too, amazing or what? I actually think it’s relatively easy to grasp the difference between Death and other extreme metals – low guttural/growled vocals, really low, downtuned guitar and blast beats, simple as that. So don’t assume that others don’t know the difference just because you don’t, it doesn’t help the “god of the universe and lord of all metal, I know so much I make mortals’ brains melt with me insane awesomeness” position you’re trying to set up.
300. roar : Nice ad hominem attack there, could we keep our arguments out of the personal?
301. meshman : Lol, I hate it when people come in here and say really, really, insanely stupid things. Well, ok, there is a part of me that likes it a lot I guess, now to business :
TWO Death Metal bands you say? Ok, I’ll count them on my fingers, with me kiddies, Death, Deicide, Cannibal Corpse… Hey, wait a second… That can’t be right, three… If only one of us had a brain and wasn’t a pretentious tool
P.S. Whether you “extreme” DM fans like it or not, Melodic Death IS Death Metal, so stop complaining. Please?
P.P.S. You do know that Corpsegrinder has been “on” Metalocalypse right? You know, the Death Metal artist? So to say that Dethklok is “unfunny” – which they definitely aren’t – or made by people ignorant to The Great Genre is, well, just ignorant in itself.
See General, I don’t dislike you or the list, just the title. I’ll stand up for you when I think the other person is wrong
302. roar : Nu Metal… Crap…. Damnit, we do have metal elitists here. I thought LV might have avoided the worst of them. Oh well, bring on the pretentiousness…
303 roar
March 25th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Mark: well, you called me out, thanks and sorry. i probably was a little too confrontational and impulsive with the comments. though death metal thrives off both this is probably not the place for it. work makes you meat, so they say…
304 wolvesofodin
March 25th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Here I am again…As for the list…there are obviously bands that I would not have included but I understand the criteria that Mr. tits has put forth. I will also admit that I was highly irritated when I first read the list. I have gotten over it though and would like to think that I made a couple of decent contributions towards the comments.
As for these people putting all the black metal bands on their own list…just stop please. Maybe I will make that list for you here in the future..once I get time…lol.
305 Kerry King
March 26th, 2009 at 4:11 am
FUCK THIS LIST
10 Necrophagist
9 In Flames
8 Morbid Angel
7 Entombed
6 Opeth
5 Belphegor
4 Gorefest
3 At the Gates
2 Terrorizer
1 DEATH ( RIP chuck )
Cannibal Corpse sucks balls
306 robby57
March 26th, 2009 at 10:00 am
god this list sucks no ac/dc
307 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 26th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Mark I almost never change my opinion when I start going hard at someone, but you actually make sense unlike most other normal turds. Now look people who know the differences between metal obviously know this list is not strictly death metal (which it says at the top) but what should I have called the list? Deathmetalish bands?
308 Gary Busey Is God
March 26th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Really, it’s difficult. Top 10 Metal, you’d need to have Priest, Maiden, and Sabbath. You can’t even name this as Top 10 Extreme Metal (Extreme is a blanket term covering Thrash, Death, and Black) because BTBAM and Mastodon aren’t part of that. If Mastodon or BTBAM had at least a DM album, it would fit, but Mastodon has been an extremely Sludgy Progressive band for pretty much the entirety of their career.
I guess you could have gotten away with it if you put Top 10 Most Influential Bands on Death Metal and threw them in as honorable mentions, but even then there would be debate as to the inclusion of Behemoth and Arch Enemy since the bands aren’t really doing anything new and are too new to really have any influence measured. Same goes for BTBAM and Mastodon, as far as influence.
With lists like this, it’s less about bands that you like, and more about how important the bands are/were and sticking within the constraints you put yourself in by setting out these rules and naming it a certain way.
309 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 26th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Gary B dude I can understand if you dont agree with them all being only deathmetal but all the bands def fit my criteria
310 deviljin
March 26th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
A lot of these bands don’t belong on the list. Mastodon is more sludge-metal (supposed to be combo of punk and metal) and plus, they are rather too mainstream anyway. What about Opeth!!! How can you not have them on the list? They are more progressive now but they still count as Death metal. And what about Bloodbath? And Therion!!!!!!!!! In Flames!!! Man, this list is an insult. Death Metal is not very popular I know in the States but man, get a better list.
311 erh
March 26th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Dark Tranquillity? Carcass? Opeth? Obituary? Amon Amarth? MORBID ANGEL?!
along with Death, Morbid Angel is probably the most important one ever
312 ThatGuy
March 27th, 2009 at 12:47 am
I expected to see Nile. And Opeth possibly.
313 Mark
March 27th, 2009 at 4:37 am
304. roar : Don’t feel too bad mate, LV is the perfect place for an argument, just next time keep it a bit more civil
305. wolvesofodin : Lol, THANK YOU. No more bloody BM suggestions, PRETTY please?
306. Kerry King : Wow, not only polite but also intelligent. You really think Gorefest deserves a spot and yet you overlook Possessed? Biased enough list to be considered absolute crap I’m sorry to say. Then we get onto the Cannibal Corpse thing, what the hell is all I can say. I actually like General’s list a lot better than that.
307. robby57 : ROFLMFAO!!
308. General Tits Von Chodehoffen : I think that that is a much better title than what you wound up on. Why not just “10 Great Metal Bands with Death Metal Influences” or, alternatively “10 Great (Death?) Metal Bands”. The second suggestion has a certain lolworthiness about it don’t you think? They are a lot more “look at if you want to get into Death Metal” rather than “these are THE BEST DM bands”. A lot less confrontational and a lot more likely to go down well. Not to mention a great opportunity to introduce the un-initiated into the ranks of one of The Great Genres
309. Gary Busey Is God and 310. General Tits Von Chodehoffen : General definitely did make and stick to his constaints, the problem isn’t even the constaints themselves – they are acceptable to almost everyone, I quite like them – it’s the implications the list makes about fulfilling those constraints. The title tells us that the aim of the list was quite simply – “These are the criteria and by meeting these, these bands are the best Death Metal acts ever”, given the obvious discrepencies in opinions I don’t really think that this list OBjectively achieved that.
311. deviljin : “….they are too maintstream anyway….” Huh? Death Metal can’t be good if it’s popular? Better chuck out all of my Morbid Angel then… And I thought I was a DM fan, compared to you I’m a teeny-bopper. It’s people like you that give metal – especially the more extreme varieties like Death – its pretentious and elitist image. Get out of here if you’re going to judge bands on an invisible “respectability when I tell my metal friends and elders about them” scale. Seriously, we don’t want you here giving people the wrong idea, because some of us – me! – are willing to try anything and won’t discount bands just “because they’re not INSANE enough!!1!”
312. erh : POSSESSED?! Morbid Angel and even Death pale in comparison if by important you mean influential. Possessed CREATED DM, there is not arguing with that, so can we get some represention for them here?
313. ThatGuy : I would’ve expected Opeth when I first saw this on that fateful day… But Nile, I wouldn’t necessarily expect to see them on this sort of list, they’ve never been the most recognized band – unfortunately
314 deviljin
March 27th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Mark – Mastodon, I’m a big fan of actually. And I don’t consider myself an elitist nor one to say this has to be not mainstream, but I do get clowned a lot for listening to Mastodon because people around me consider them mainstream, okay? I honestly don’t care whether it is mainstream or not. I guess I got it stuck in my head, the idea of them being that, that is. So, take a chill pill dude.
315 Armin
March 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Metallica’s not death metal but listen to their first album and tell me their lyrics aren’t about killing people. They should’ve been mentioned in here if fucking Mastodon was mentioned. This list is all wrong..
316 Mark
March 27th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
315. deviljin : Lol, I hope you don’t consider yourself a Death Metal fan then, because if you care so much about what others think about your music you’re going to wind up putting a bullet into your skull. Don’t tell me to take a chill pill, next time just apologize and leave it at that. Telling someone who pointed out just how insanely stupid your comment was to take a chill pill just makes you seem like even more of an ass. I may have been a bit aggressive, but in my defence, I was reasonable, logical and right. All you were is retarded bro, so, take a anti-dumbass pill, it may save your life. Or at least, what’s left of your pride
And FYI saying that you got an idea stuck in your head and then just repeated that – rather stupid – idea without thought, well, it’s not a defence in itself. It’s like me saying “Well I though Metallica were awesome because everyone is always talking about them”, it just makes me seem like an idiot.
316. Armin : I wish that comment hadn’t come out the other end of moderation… Metallica…. Why, oh Lord of Metal – *looks at General*? Why?
317 deviljin
March 27th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Mark – Now you seem to be the pretentious elitist. I just listen to the music. All I said was that I mentioned it to friends and they claimed it to be mainstream but I didn’t care. I didn’t say I believe it was mainstream nor did I say I care what others think. I just mentioned it here but your ass get bitchy and defensive, started whining. Now, you’re just being a snobbish jerk.
I don’t have to apologize to you. I say what I want. You don’t like it, suck some balls. By the way, this is an another example of your elitist attitude.
As for your comment, you were wrong because there are a LOT of people who consider Mastodon to be mainstream. Maybe you’re just a fan-boy sucking up to them, which explains why you are getting so defensive. And I know I am right about this because I know very well you have all their albums, even posters, and concert tickets, you probably worship them too because you are so pissed off. Why, I know very well you typed your comment purely in anger.
You claim to be logical yet you don’t have the sense enough to realize that we often view certain things in a specific way merely based on how we see it everyday, thus, the idea stuck in your head. Perhaps, you don’t have friends so…yeah. But I will say, if you had friends, and they clown you about something they don’t like, everyday, common sense says you’d either rebel or give in just to satisfy them but know otherwise.
And pride? This is just a blog, you dumbass. Why are you taking it so seriously? What are you, an internet bully because you don’t have anyone but your harlot of a mother?
You’re obviously not logical, right nor even in the least bit intelligent because no where in my statement did I state I care about what others think. I merely stated that my friends claim Mastodon is mainstream. That does not have to do anything with my own view of them, though I did say they are mainstream.
But would you say Britney Spears is mainstream, even though she isn’t to those who listen to her? If so, then ah, there your contradiction. You ARE a pretentious elitist. You are a contradiction of sorts.
Take a chill pill, baboon. You are clearly out of your league here. your single digit i.q. can only go so far.
318 deviljin
March 27th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Mark – I just have to say this as your devotion to the mundane is astounding. Why are you so defending a band whom you do not know personally? And if I am what you have insulted me with, why are you on your knees trying to beg me to have a change of heart? What if I said every band you love is mainstream? That would blow your mind, wouldn’t it? LOL. I wrote this afterthought just because I like how easy it is to rile you up and how stupidly devoted you are of a band just because they have effected your life in some capacity and lastly how fake you are in your calling me an elitist and yet you are the one who have come out looking like an elitist.
Get over yourself, dude. They are just bands. I love them all, but I don’t live life by them like you do. Go read a book, you ignoramus.
319 deviljin
March 27th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Mark – P.S. I believe and I know I have you pegged. I know your type very well and so, I am going to end this tedious argument here as any bigger and wiser man should. By now, I know you have a list of insults to include in your comment as you cannot speak to me without resulting to insults as you think you are high and mighty through the use of them. And I would read your response, but I know very well you will not see my side of it and so, this argument only leads to a pointless day in day out blog of drivel just so you can suck on your pride.
Like I said, go read a book and make it something other than Harry Potter, or bios about serial killers as judging your comments, you are destined to become one at least one of parricide – that’d be the smartest thing you ever could do.
320 Mark
March 27th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
318. deviljin : That is one of the most lolworthy comments on this list. Thanks seriously, that was beautiful man :’D
You call me elitist because I don’t label bands, that is the opposite of elitist. And you can’t call me bitchy for (foolishly?) believing that you consider Mastodon mainstream given the fact that YOU SAID THEY WERE. What are you even arguing (insulting’s probably a better word) here? That I’m stupid because I draw my facts from your comment… Wow, I never realized just how blind I’ve been. The Britney Spears thing highlights which one of us needs to stop and thinkg before posting, mainstream is objective, you seem to think it’s a subjective value such as how much you like Mastodon for example. I must say that considering I’m the one that is taking this too seriously your post was quite angry (insanely insecure?), don’t you think?
319. deviljin : I couldn’t care less if music is mainstream or not, unlike some rather pretentious, elitists hanging around… And I just thought I’d reply to that comment because it’s obviously INSANELY easy to shake your foundations my friend…
320. deviljin : You can’t just say “I’m ending this argument so I won”. Sure I’ll stop arguing if you want, but there’s no victor here, so no need to even attempt to claim that title. Sure don’t read my reply, but then only one of us is going to wind up looking like an idiot in denial. I’m not the only one that has to resort to insults in their arguments mate
321 oouchan
March 27th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Hey mark….I find it funny that deviljin said he would be the “bigger and wiser man” in this debate and mocked you for your use of insults. Almost in the same breath he insulted not only you but your mum. I just had to point that out and find is more LOLworthy than the rest of it. cheers!
322 Mark
March 27th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
322. oouchan : Damn, I was looking at that bit too, then I read the next couple of posts and forgot to put it in. Thanks for pointing it out
323 Paulb
March 28th, 2009 at 12:42 am
okay Mark, Dimmu is “black” metal. Not death. Not that I could care to differentiate, but they are pretty cool nonetheless
324 wolvesofodin
March 28th, 2009 at 12:43 am
I have been away for a couple of days and look what has happened!!! This is fantastic if you ask me. Mark, I too would like to point out that the smarter and wiser man also hurled quite a few insults in the middle of his tirade. He talks about you getting angry about the whole topic, yet his continuous posts drip of anger. Plus half of his arguments don’t make any damned sense. I was reading them and felt like someone was running around in cirlces inside of my head like some kind of crazy person.
And for the record…Bloodbath and Therion do not belong on this list. Therion is a decent band, but to put them in the top ten of all time is kind of silly…sorry.
325 Mark
March 28th, 2009 at 12:52 am
324. Paulb : Agreed, Black Metal isn’t quite my thing – I like the crunchy, downtuned guitar sound. But I don’t mind Dimmu at all, if I had to listen to BM it would either be them or some early Mayhem. And I just want to articulate this a bit – at the huge risk of sounding pretentious – the difference between Black and Death Metal is akin to the difference between the Blues and Jazz. But the problem is that most people who don’t listen to extreme metal are just too overwhelmed by the sheer, extremeness of it and they don’t get a chance to appreciate the difference. So I don’t mind if someone who doesn’t listen to extreme metal doesn’t understand the difference, but for people who bother to comment on this list to not know – what do you think that tells me about them? And that’s not directed at you, I just wanted to throw it out there so people understood my POV
325. wolvesofodin : I know how you feel, I went to sleep and I wake up the next morning and have 20+ comments directed at me in a certain discussion on this site. Lots of typing,at least all you had to do was read. I really do hope that he’s a man of his word, because I’m not particularly thrilled about having to reply to any more of his comments
326 wolvesofodin
March 28th, 2009 at 1:50 am
Heh heh heh, at least I didn’t personally anger too many people of my own. At first I really thought that I was going to, you know being the elitist that I am and all. But apart from that I have thoroughly enjoyed reading all of the comments and sticking my nose in whenever I feel it wasn’t needed.
Personally I love black metal as well, sometimes even more than death metal. It all just depends on the mood that I am in at the time. And I realize there are those people that don’t realize the differences between the two genres, but that is ok this music isn’t for everyone. Different tunings, differences in vocal styles, differences in tempos…all of these are part of the things that separate the two from each other.
327 rolf
March 28th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Possessed
Death
Morbid Angel
Carcass
Entombed
Celtic Frost
At The Gates
Atheist
Dissection
Autopsy
There is your death metal list right there. Your black metal list is here:
Hellhammer
Venom
Bathory
Darkthrone
Emperor
Gorgoroth
Satyricon
Impaled Nazarene
Beherit
Windir
Thrash metal:
Exodus
Dark Angel
Metallica
Kreator
Slayer
Megadeth
Sodom
Destruction
Tankard
(for fun) Aura Noir
Doom:
Cathedral
Black Sabbath
Solitude Aeturnus
My Dying Bride
Paradise Lost
Anathema
October Tide
etc…
See how easy this is? General Tits is a poser – I wrote this crap in 2 minutes while drunk, if I can do it, anyone can
328 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
March 28th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Well rolf it is kinda obvious that you were drunk with lists like that. Didnt even have Testament in the thrash metal, dick
329 Good Nads
March 28th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Nobody’s heard of it, but I think Bal Sagoth is pretty good.
330 Dismember
March 28th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Oh my lawd!
TBH Arch Enemy, COB , Slayer, Mastodon and Between The Buried And Me don’t deserve to be on that list.IMO I would have added Dismember, Carcass, At the gates, Morbid Angel, Cryptopsy ( None So Vile) and [Opeth, Bloodbath as an honorable mention]
as for Behemoth, I’m a sucker for Nergal he brings back good memories
You have a good list but calling it “Top 10 Death Metal Bands” is quite too much though and I wouldn’t use popularity as a criteria to judge bands.
#330 Bal sagoth is godly \m/
331 Michael
March 28th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
rolf: Nice lists, except, why is Celtic Frost on the death metal list? They’re generally considered blackened thrash/doom, I’ve never heard of them being categorized as death metal.
332 Corpsegrinder
March 28th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Slayer is not considered as a Death Metal band. They are considered as a Thrash Metal band. Anyway, my list are as follows:
1. Monstrosity
2. Cannibal Corpse
3. Severe Torture
4. Necrophagist
5. Death
6. Atheist
7. Blotted Science
8. Vile
9. Deicide
10. Cryptopsy
333 wolvesofodin
March 28th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Bal Sagoth are a fun kind of band. Epic battle type of stuff.
My favorite band is Einherjer though.
And Rolf: Your black metal list is close, but not quite there, at least not to me. That is the beauty of making these lists, different people have different opinions. Mine would be more like this:
1. Venom
2. Bathory
3. Mayhem
4. Dimmu Borgir
5. Emperor
6. Satyricon
7. Marduk
8. Dark Funeral
9. Darkthrone
10. Gorgoroth.
I was going to put a little history or explanation next to each band as I did before with my death metal list….but I am lazy today.
334 Tatiana
March 29th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
For Black Metal Bands
1. Anthelion
2. Mork Gryning
3. Imperial Crystalline Entombment
4. Astarte
5. Siebenburgen
6. Nortt
7. Ragnarok
8. Tsjuder
9. Vermeth
335 Tatiana
March 29th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
10. Ajattara
336 wolvesofodin
March 29th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Tatiana: It is true, some of those bands are very good, my favorite two of them being Mork Gryning and Ragnarok, but to put them on the top ten black metal list is a little off I think. Unless you just meant that it was YOUR top ten.
I do love Tusen Ar har gatt though…fantastic album.
337 Denzell
March 29th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Nightwish?
338 Good Nads
March 29th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
#338: Nightwish is a fantastic band. I listen to them all the time, but I don’t think they qualify as death metal.
339 Ian
March 29th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
If you’re going to make a list of “top death metal bands” do some research and put actual death metal bands in it.
340 Brad
March 29th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
@ Ian: Wow, you are sooooo original! What would we ever do without you saying that?
341 Mark
March 29th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
328. rolf : Lol, I hope you were drunk, those are crap…
333. Corpsegrinder : I can’t tell who’s list I hate the worst anymore o.O
334. wolvesofodin : I would’ve put Mayhem at 2, but nice list. Venom definitely need to be first there.
335. Tatiana : I hope that was a personal top 10, those are all pretty obscure – even for Black Metal.
340. Ian : Agreed.
341. Brad : I don’t know what we’d do without people giving their opinions – no matter how stupid, not that I think Ian’s was stupid *wink wink* – but I guess that we might be able to skip out on stupid replies to reasonable comments.
342 wolvesofodin
March 29th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Mark: Thank ya, I actually considered putting Mayhem second, but then I thought that because of the fact that Mayhem actually did covers of Bathory songs before I couldn’t really leapfrog them over top.
343 Mark
March 30th, 2009 at 1:22 am
343. wolvesofodin : Influence isn’t the only criteria, but now I think about it, Mayhem sort of lost it after their guitarist and singer went down the drain….
344 wolvesofodin
March 30th, 2009 at 1:48 am
I understand that, but like you said after Dead killed himself and Euronymous was murdered the band went down like a rocket. I think there is only one original member even in the band anymore and that is the drummer. I could be mistaken though…it is late for me.
345 wolvesofodin
March 30th, 2009 at 1:49 am
Meant to say went down like a rock…told you it was late.
346 Mark
March 30th, 2009 at 2:02 am
345. wolvesofodin : It’s actually the bassist that’s still there, but he left and only returned for the last album or two. Apparently he didn’t even play any of the bass on the latest album anyway. It still escapes me what the purpose of a Black Metal bass-guitarist is, I mean, it’s not as if you can even here it and I doubt it would make much of a difference to the live shows anyways. Just get the guitarist to lay down a bass track if you really need one….
347 wolvesofodin
March 30th, 2009 at 2:40 am
Thanks, I could never remeber which of the guys it was. Good thing that they kept him there then huh? And actually there are some bands…Marduk in particular that you can hear the bass lines very clearly on. Check out the song Wolves from them and you will see what I mean. You are right though there ARE a lot of those bands that the bass is overwhelmed by everything else that is going on. I still like it though.
348 bigski
March 30th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
General TVC-#308-That`s the funniest one liner i`ve heard in a while.
All you young folks are really passionate about your music and I salute you. I was also like you but it was the Beatles,Rolling Stones,Led Zepplin and so on we argued about. Rock on.
349 Mark
March 30th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
349. bigski : I didn’t see any humour in that comment personally, shame. Zeppelin, what a band, the most wonderful four people to have ever graced the Earth. Especially Page and – of course – the late John, R.I.P :’(
350 bigski
March 30th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Nothing personal against you.
It just struck me as funny. No shame.
I admire your conviction to your music.Same for the rest of you.
351 Maggot
March 30th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
349 Mark: the most wonderful four people to have ever graced the Earth. Especially Page
We’ll overlook his little habit of banging 14 yr olds.
352 LeadingtheRats
March 30th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Top 5
MORBID ANGEL
CANNIBAL CORPSE
DEICIDE
DEATH
POSSESSED
These aren’t “DEATH METAL”, but they helped make it
VENOM
CELTIC FROST
SLAYER
and of course KING DIAMOND and MERCYFUL FATE
353 Mark
March 30th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
351. bigski : Good to know you haven’t judged me, but I didn’t find it funny. Which is why it is a shame, I like laughing
352. Maggot : Why? To me, that’s just another reason to idolize the man
353. LeadingtheRats : That’s a good top 5, but the order??? What to do, so many different arguments for who goes where
354 LeadingtheRats
March 30th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
352. Maggot: Fourteen years old? That’s fucking gross.
Get there before the hair, if anything!
355 oouchan
March 30th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
354. Mark: The comment about the idolizing him for sleeping with a 14 year old….I really hope that was a joke. Even if it was, it was in poor taste. My daughter is 13 and it makes me sick to even think of that happening. Just as a fyi…don’t joke about pediphiles, ok?
356 Maggot
March 30th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
352 Mark: If it were my daughter, to me it’d be a reason to kill the “man”.
357 Mark
March 31st, 2009 at 1:23 am
355. LeadingtheRats : I would laugh, but….
358 Mark
March 31st, 2009 at 1:26 am
356. oouchan : It was only one, and FYI she was at an after-party. I’m not going to say “she deserved it”, but come on, an after-party with Zeppelin, what did she expect to happen. And for all the people who don’t know the story it wasn’t a one night stand, Jimmy actually did date the girl for a very long time, so don’t let this affect your view of The Great Band
357. Maggot : I would have to agree with you there, but would you actually kile Jimmy? I don’t think I could, even if I wanted to…
359 oouchan
March 31st, 2009 at 7:06 am
359. Mark: One was enough. Also per your statement, it’s ok for a older man to have sex with a 14 year old girl as long as he is a famous musician. I would kill him if it was my daughter. Regardless if he dated her, it was wrong and sick. I know you are younger and probably couldn’t understand this now, but wait until you have children. When you look into their eyes…think of what good old Jimmy did and tell me then if it was right.
I don’t want to sound angry over this, but this is a very sore subject and is not a joke or should be overlooked at all. Never. No matter who they are or what they have done for the world.
I love Led Zepplins music. Don’t like Page. I also like M. Jackson’s music and can’t stand him personally. Do I go out and buy their music…no. If it plays on the radio, I am fine with it, but won’t promote them for their ways.
360 Maggot
March 31st, 2009 at 1:20 pm
359 Mark: It was only one…it wasn’t a one night stand
I wouldn’t be so sure that it was “only one”. There is at least two or three other minors linked to Page. And the fact that he had a so-called ongoing relationship with this one in particular is almost worse than if it were just a one-time thing.
I get the whole sex, drugs, and debauchery of the rock star lifestyle. They’re not the first musicians to drink themselves to death, become heroin addicts, or even to cavort with underage groupies, and they won’t be the last.
don’t let this affect your view of The Great Band
Ok look, I’m not trying to be a Zep basher here just for the fun of it. I grew up on Led Zeppelin. I was a teenager in the 70’s, was a huge fan, had their posters on the walls in my room, saw them live, have all their albums (later, CDs) including some rare demos and boots, and on and on. Jimmy is a great guitarist, one of the best ever, and the band holds an important place in the annals of rock history. You’re not breaking any new ground here by adopting them as your own benchmark of greatness. But they have a few skeletons in the closet that push them over the edge of inexcusability IMO. Led Zeppelin is not the sacred cow that some people make them out to be.
361 EpicTroller
April 1st, 2009 at 3:28 am
Stupid kids,getting confused between easily distinguishable genres. Black Metal has satanic influences not Death Metal. In fact, death metal came from the band Death, thus the name Death’s Metal, and I agree with the commenter who said “where are the genres pioneers”. Why the hell are these lousy, close to commercial bands doing on a Death Metal list, Namely Mastodon, Children of Bodom and Arch Enemy. Remember this is commercial in terms of the death metal/black metal genre.
362 Mark
April 1st, 2009 at 4:11 am
360. oouchan : Yikes! I’ll stop talking about pedo’s if you stop judging me. Not planning to have kids – not any that know me
(jokes, don’t kill me) – anyway, an extreme metal artist isn’t going to make the best father unfortunately.
361. Maggot : I don’t know about that, I have managed to learn quite a lot about Zeppelin – granted I wasn’t there and you were, I know, no need to remind me how OLD you are
– and I haven’t read anything that mentions anyone else underage. And I renew my original statement, she was at a Zep after-party… Come on, what do you expect? I don’t like the way you pass me off as some kid following Page around like a sheep, I thought I made it quite clear that I make decisions for Mark, and only Mark. If I did have proof that Page was involved in child prostitution I would drop him like Australia’s going to drop Bryce McGain (LOL!!). I don’t think what they did was inexcusable – as you so eloquently said – so as it stands, Page is still my idol. And it is almost unprecedented I think for an extreme metal – we’re talking a mixture between Sludge and Death here – guitarist to put Page in the ultimate position on their guitarist idolization meter.
362. EpicTroller : Fitting name my friend. Epic fail at pretentiouness – yet again – god I love you deadbeats. Ok, here goes, again :
Ever heard of Possessed? No, didn’t think so – you made it painfully obvious. They have HUGE “satanic influences” in their music, which are all Death Metal. Now, this is where it gets even funner, they are commonly – and correctly in my opinion – attributed with the creation of the Death Metal genre, you know why that’s so great, because you call for the genres pioneers to be mentioned, after saying that DM is a metal genre devoid of “satanic influences”. Whoops!
Either drop the pretentious/elitist/snobbish manner, or leave – “Stupid kids…”. Buddy, compared to us youngins… Well, I don’t want to get too personal here – although you did, two wrongs don’t make a right
– so I’ll leave others to think of a witty statement to insert there.
363 north
April 1st, 2009 at 5:49 am
What a shitty list. Half of these bands aren’t even death metal and the other half are shitty emo bands.
364 Copaface
April 1st, 2009 at 5:52 am
north (364) – What are you on about? None of these are emo bands. Let’s not get pissed just because our favourite bands aren’t on here. Don’t be lame
365 oouchan
April 1st, 2009 at 7:07 am
363. Mark: I am not judging you…I just wanted you to understand that with that type of thinking, you are saying its ok. I don’t care where she was or who she was with. It was still wrong. However, you are free to think as you like and I don’t think we are going to convince each other. Even so, sick people like him should be burned at the stake.
Also, don’t say that about yourself. I know a guy right now who sings thrash metal who has 3 little girls. He is also a tattoo artist.
Page was a good artist. That is all. As a human…he sucked ass.
366 wolvesofodin
April 1st, 2009 at 1:50 pm
HAHAHAHAHA…epictroller. Death metal has no satanic influences? Obviously you have never heard of Morbid Angel…or many other bands in the genre for that matter. And Death’s metal? Are you serious? It is called death metal because of the subject matter, not because of ANY other reason. And like Mark said the genre started from Possessed, which ALSO had satanic influences. So next time please get your facts straight before you come and start talking crazy.
367 Maggot
April 1st, 2009 at 3:04 pm
363 Mark: no need to remind me how OLD you are
lol, happens to the best of us, kiddo.
don’t know about that…I haven’t read anything that mentions anyone else underage.
I have. I could name names, but what’s the point, really? As oouchan said, one is enough. There’s no smoking gun proof of the others (that would stand in court anyway), but there’s a reasonably convincing amount of circumstantial and anecdotal evidence.
And I renew my original statement, she was at a Zep after-party… Come on, what do you expect?
I expect an adult to not screw 14 yr olds.
I don’t like the way you pass me off as some kid following Page around like a sheep, I thought I made it quite clear that I make decisions for Mark, and only Mark.
Oh boo hoo.
If I did have proof that Page was involved in child prostitution
I never said anything about child prostitution. Or are you just using that as an example in attempt to make your point?
I don’t think what they did was inexcusable – as you so eloquently said – so as it stands, Page is still my idol.
There’s no way to whitewash or excuse an adult for having sex with a minor. Sorry. If you want to idolize him musically, fine. Just don’t try to convince people that he’s “a wonderful person”. I respect him too, as a musician. But as I mentioned earlier in this thread, there are other things about them as well that I find to be inexcusable.
And it is almost unprecedented I think for an extreme metal – we’re talking a mixture between Sludge and Death here – guitarist to put Page in the ultimate position on their guitarist idolization meter.
Nah, it just means you know a top level guitar player when you see one. Appreciating Page’s playing style and ability is a no-brainer. Even a three-chord punker would recognize a talented guitarist. Although, if I were to venture a guess, I would say you probably are drawn to him more because of his interest in the occult. You’re not that hard to figure out, you know.
368 Metalhead
April 1st, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I know you don’t want to go down to the lowest levels, so I won’t bitch about the inclusion of such bands as Behemoth and Children Of Bodom, both of which are really more black metal. Even Slayer, which is manifestly not death metal, is brutal enough that I won’t complain. But putting on Mastodon and Between The Buried And Me is fucking retarded. Mastodon are not death metal in the slightest, and neither is Between The Buried And Me. Call this “extreme metal”, and it’ll be fine, but two of the bands on here aren’t remotely death metal.
369 Mark
April 1st, 2009 at 6:22 pm
366. oouchan : Well you did assume that my age affected the way I perceive Jimmy. Now don’t get me wrong here, I know experience in these types of thing is important, but me being “young” doesn’t make me wrong in itself. That’s all I meant by you judging me, but I’m not really a man of principles so I couldn’t really care less whether I’m judged or not (that would probably make me a hypocrite as well). I don’t really care what you think of Jimmy either, I’m not overly sensitive about my idols and I won’t try to force my POV down people’s throats. It would be nice if people would return the favour.
368. Maggot : Yeah, it does, look at Jimmy after all
As you said most of the evidence is anecdotal and circumstantial, which is why I’m not too quick to condemn him as a “bad person” – which I think is a bad tag in itself, but meh.
“I expect an adult to not screw 14 yr olds.”
Cheap shot, now anybody who reads this is going to find themselves on your side of the fence right away. Well done though
I don’t want to make it out as though it’s her fault, but you can’t pin the whole thing on Jimmy…
Yeah, the child prostitution thing was to make my point, and it wasn’t a poor attempt, it conveyed what I wanted it to. I don’t just “like Jimmy cos” I don’t follow him blindly.
I’m not trying to whitewash what he did, to me it’s just not wrong. I know that might sound “evil” or whatever term you prefer, but that’s the way I feel. If I knew more about what went on, then it might be a different story, but the fact that they actually had a rather long relationship suggests to me that she liked it in one capacity or another. So I think we need to clarify that he didn’t rape her, it was consensual, it’s not a matter of principles and what’s “right” and “wrong” but the situation. And IMO the situation isn’t that inexcusable, if at all.
You should’ve left out that last sentence, because, frankly, you have no idea I’m sorry to say. I was listening to Zep when I was 12/13 and I’ve adored Jimmy since then. That, coupled with the fact that I think the occult is a load of crap, is fairly indicative of the fact that you sort of missed the mark on that last assumption. And I’m not talking about an extreme metal guitarist who recognizes that Jimmy’s good – there’s been plenty of them – I’m talking about an extreme metal guitarist who’s favourite guitarist OF ALL TIME is Page. I don’t think there’s that many of them around
369. Metalhead : I’ve always found that brains are helpful if you want to comment on an LV list. Children of Bodom “more black metal”, huh? I really mean it when I say that’s right up there with the most retarded comments on this list my friend. Go away, think about it, then you may have the privilage of commenting again. Let’s hope you can put some thought into it this time
370 Maggot
April 1st, 2009 at 7:07 pm
370 Mark: you can’t pin the whole thing on Jimmy
Yes you can. He’s the so-called “adult” in this sordid affair.
the fact that they actually had a rather long relationship suggests to me that she liked it in one capacity or another.
Of course she “liked it”. She was a fucking groupie.
So I think we need to clarify that he didn’t rape her, it was consensual
Statutory rape is rape. Plain and simple. You can split hairs all you want about it being consensual, but the idea behind the charge is that a minor does not have the level of maturity in their decision-making to properly consent. Ergo an adult is wrong in taking advantage of that. Does the commonly used phrase “between consenting adults” mean anything to you? Why do you think there is a distinction between “minor” and “adult” when it comes to writing not only this but all sorts of laws? I hate to pull the “kid” card on you but perhaps that’s why you don’t understand. By that I mean that I can hear you now, saying “but I’m a minor and I’m mature enough to call my own shots”. Whatever…
Ok even I will grant that, logically, there’s not much difference maturity-wise when a person is 17 yrs and 364 days old and what they are the very next day. But a line has to be drawn somewhere, and 14 is WAY below it. Maybe that’s the only reason the so-called relationship lasted so long (it was only little over a year, btw), because she was too naïve, dumb, and star-struck to dump his ass for continuing to nail every other bimbo and hanger-on in sight while still “seeing” her.
you sort of missed the mark on that last assumption
Eh, I took a shot…
371 JesusChrist
April 1st, 2009 at 7:27 pm
lol, more like top ten bands that suck.
im sorry but you kids need to stop thinking todays nu death emo myspace ipod “metal” crap is cool. Music died in 1991, and i know that excludes death and slayer, whom were in the 80s. they were just pre 91 suckers. Blues Rock, Hard Rock, Country Rock, and late 70s New York Punk, pyscadelic, folk, funk, soul, blues, and classic 70s metal like Sabbath, Deep Purple, Motorhead, Uriah Heep, Blue Oyster Cult, and Rainbow, are way better than anything after 1991, especialy this screamo noise stuff. its all noise and it all sucks now. Thanks Black Album, you killed metal. tho most will disagree on the majority of what sayin, i think most of you will agree on that last Black Album comment, but then agian, im assuming any of you know about real metal, something of which this list contains non of…besides slayer. black sabbaths heaven and hell is the best metal album by the way
372 Mark
April 1st, 2009 at 7:57 pm
371. Maggot : To tell you the truth I believe the insanely arbitrary line drawn between minor and adult is just plain stupid. Yeah, 14 might be young, but bear in mind that I’m 16 and I look old enough to buy alcohol. I doubt she told Jimmy “I’m 14″, so there’s no need to be so agressive. Neither of us know all of the facts, and seeing as she has never complained about anything that went on I think my assumptions are better – that she was mature enough and probably doesn’t regret it. I’m not saying that Page is perfect and what he did was right, but why bother?
372. JesusChrist : Yeah, why bother mentioning Paranoid if you’re going to talk about Sabbath? Tool… Seriously, Zeppelin are probably my favourite band – if I had to pick one – but I can respect and even enjoy this newer stuff. Which puts me in a way better position than you because, well, that’s what’s on offer in the music world today. Hate it or love it you’ve gotta live with it, so why spend all your time complaining about it? Why not look for something you can enjoy? Get your hands on some Wolfmother, if you’re a Sabbath fan they won’t disappoint.
373 oouchan
April 1st, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Maggot….Thank you for making your points. They are well put and better than what I was going to say. However, I am going to put what I had in mind down.
Mark…Judging you based on how young you are?…I guess I did. So…based on that, since you are only 16, you are not seeing the big picture here. I was the same at your age. I loved GNR and wouldn’t hear anyone saying they were bad. Now I know that they were horrible human beings.
Yes, she was a groupie, but he was an adult and should have known better. No matter how you slice this, he was a effin bastard who took advantage of a little girl. She could be the biggest slut in the world for all I care…he knew better. Didn’t stop him though. Your comment “To tell you the truth I believe the insanely arbitrary line drawn between minor and adult is just plain stupid.”, pretty much says that its ok for sex between a child and a grown adult to occur.
I don’t know you but your comments are really getting to me. If there are more people like you in the world who think like that, then what are we doing for our children? How are we to protect them? Pedophilia is not a joke, something to be idolized or explained away. It’s sick and wrong…no matter who you are.
Side note: I was a groupie myself. I was 15 when I met the band members of Poison. I loved their music and thought CC was hot. My friends and I were invited to the after concert party and we did everything but strip to get them to “notice” us. You know what I got? “You’re too young, but come back when you’re 18″. I was pissed then, but looking back on that now, I am happy he said it.
374 bigski
April 1st, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Eric Clapton is God.
375 Mark
April 1st, 2009 at 8:49 pm
374. oouchan : Wait, why is it acceptable to assume that I don’t see the big picture? Because I’m young(er than you)? Maggot’s older than you, so everything he (she?) says is better than what you say? And Anon, well he must be God compared to all of us…. That seems a but ripped off to me
I think you picture a young 14 year old, completely innocent and un-developed, being descended upon by a drunk, high and horny rock star. I think you need to cool off and think less in theoretical principles and more in a practical, case by case way. Sure, in general having sex with a minor is unacceptable, but the world doesn’t work on generalities, it couldn’t. Maybe Jimmy made a mistake – without knowing the facts we can’t even say – but why condemn him as being pure evil because of it. The pair of you may think that I have a very casual and naive perception of this situation, but the truth is I’m looking at it from outside of society’s premade moral boundries – which in themselves are poor if you ask me – I’ve just taken a step back and looked at it without any inherent “right” or “wrong” to cloud my judgement. And yet you sit there with blinkers on claiming that I’m the one not seeing the bigger picture, because I’m “young”.
I don’t think it’s OK for an adult to have sex with a “child” – nor did I say anything along those lines – but that’s not even the real problem here. It’s a single event with its own set of circumstances that must be looked at before passing judgement. The fact of the matter is that here in Australia at 17 years and 364 days old, you can’t touch alcohol – outside of your own house with parent’s permission – but the next day, go for it. All that does is encourage a LOT of drinking the second you hit 18. That’s just one of the many reasons that arbitrary rules and laws are bad. Arbitrary rules can be in place for a good reason – like sex and alcohol, we (including me) don’t want people too young to be exposed – but when they are arbitrary i.e. Age of consent in Australia is 16, then it defeats the purpose. What if at 16 a girl hasn’t really develped enough and gets taken advantage of “Oh well, nothing we can do, she was 16″. It works both ways, and I hate it.
376 oouchan
April 1st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Mark, I am glad that you think it’s wrong. But you just stated this now, in this last post that you think its wrong. However, you failed to do that from the begining. You “idolized” him in one post and said “you can’t pin the whole thing on Jimmy” in another and “she was at a Zep after-party… Come on, what do you expect?” in yet another. What were Maggot and I to think based on that?
Cool off? Never. Not about this. I can’t. How would I be able to look into my daughter eyes again? I also want to point out that I do not picture this girl as innocent. Not in anyway. (especially if she is a groupie) However, he still did wrong.
There was a true story about a prostitue who was raped at a bar. Jodie Foster played the part in the movie (can’t remember the name). She tried to bring the guy up on charges, but because she was a ‘whore’, no one wanted her case. So, because this girl is a slut, we should just not care?
As for minor’s having sex and alchohol, not a good comparison. Here in the US, it’s 21 for alcohol. We celebrate our birthdays usually at a bar. I did for mine. We can’t wait until that date. But we are now older and out of our teenage years. Yes, there is a lot of drinking, but that is to be expected. It’s how you act that makes it worth while.
Depending on which state you live in the age of consent is different. Ranging from 16 to 18. Arbitray rules are set to protect children from others…and themselves.
“What if at 16 a girl hasn’t really develped enough and gets taken advantage…” That’s called rape. Period. If she is at the age of consent and gives it, then that is a different matter. If she didn’t then it’s against her will and she should file charges. Before the age of consent, it is also rape (no matter if they were willing or not) and should be liable for charges against the adult.
Just recently we had a case of a 34 year old woman dating a 16 year old boy. Age of consent was 18. He was very willing but it’s aginst the law and she served 3 years in jail for it.
I am glad again, that you are stating flat out that this is wrong. And again, I like Zepplin’s music. Just take who you idolize with a grain of salt. None of us are perfect, but that fact of this matter is, he did something that was disgusting…even if it was just once.
377 Mark
April 1st, 2009 at 9:29 pm
377. oouchan : I think you missed my point a bit. I did say it was wrong, but I don’t think that should be adhered to strictly. I don’t believe in any inherent “right” and “wrong” as I said – hence the inverted commas – and I think that it needs to be taken on a case by case basis.
Please, I don’t believe that just because she was a groupie she had it coming though, so don’t paint me as that. Drinking is detrimental to your health period – binge drinking that is i.e. What goes on at a 21st
– it really doesn’t matter how you act, after that night you are worse off.
Here is my brilliant hypothetical situation for you :
Two 16 year olds at a party, both drinking, a lot. The boy asks the girl if she wants to go out back, she says yes. They make out and eventually have sex. The next day she regrets this act. Rape? Who was in the wrong? Was it the male simply because he’s a male? Was it the girl because she should’ve said no? Was it the person that supplied the alcohol? How much is he/she liable for? Sure there’s fines for that type of stuff, but jail time for rape?
This is where I believe your “right” and “wrong” and rigid morals fall down. There’s arguments for everything in that situation, but who do we blame according to your rigid beliefs there? Please tell me because I am truly interested, maybe I’m mistaken. I can’t tell you who I would blame without giving it some more though, it is one cracker of a dilemna.
378 oouchan
April 1st, 2009 at 9:42 pm
378. Mark…Case by case is correct for the situation you described. Adults and children are a differnt matter. But we agreed on that already.
Ok…to go over your situation. One: Both are underage for drinking. At this point, morals and thought process go out the window. Two: She regrets it now, but not at that time. Threee: It wasn’t rape because she still consented with alcohol as the drive behind it.
So, it was both of their faults for this one. It’s only when there is a someone who says no, then it becomes rape.
I see your points on this, but it won’t change my view nor will it change my sense of right and wrong. Case by case only works in the situation you described. Someone else might turn around and give a differnt POV then what I did. But remember, they were both consenting per their age, even thought alcohol was involved.
I am not so strict when it comes to ‘like’ ages consenting to sex or full adults, but only when it comes to children do I feel so strongly.
I like debating with you and hope you don’t see me as a mega bitch after this.
379 Mark
April 1st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
379. oouchan : Ok then, but if case by case is correct to use there, when do we decide to use it? And in doing so, aren’t we partking in a case by case approach every time?
Now, I know that this will be a little touchy, so if you feel too uncomfortable just tell me and we’ll get out. But what if your daughter had sex with an older man, let’s just say an 18 year old. Now, she doesn’t regret it, she would be miserable without this guy and he is a nice and reasonable man that you get along with too. Would you still send him to prison on principle?
I’m very, very slow to judge, because I know what it’s like to be on the other end of it. No risk of me considering you a bitch, I value your opinion.
380 oouchan
April 1st, 2009 at 10:05 pm
380. Mark: “when do we decide to use it?” Easy, when someone makes a fuss about it. Only then will we partake.
As for a guy having sex with my daughter before she is 18, which is the legal age, then yes. She knows that she is not ready until then. Does that mean she will go out on her 18th b-day and have sex? I hope not, but she will be legal at that time and it’s her decision, no longer mine. However, if the legal age was 16, then I would still be ok with it. On the other hand, if she was the age she is now (13) and did this…not only is he breaking the law, but she would be in serious trouble with me.
I guess it comes down to law…as long as it’s not broken, then I don’t have any real right to complain…although that never stops me.
I like your debates…I truly do. When I see you debating with another LV’er I like to read them as you are intelligent, unlike some. (how’s that for making your day/night?-depending on your time now)
I sometimes judge to quickly, but most of the time, I am spot on. Not so much today, I think.
381 Mark
April 1st, 2009 at 10:21 pm
381. oouchan : Wait? Isn’t when someone complains the only time that we need to use any of our moral decisions made here? I mean, if someone complains and we treat the case on it’s relative circumstances, then aren’t we just doing what I advocate?
So she’s not ready one day before her 18th? 11pm the night before? 10? 9? The day before? A week before? Arbitrary rules just annoy me, what’s the difference, even of a whole week, here? Don’t get me wrong, if you would send his ass to prison with no regrets or doubts then I respect you. At least you know exactly what you would do and are comfortable with your decision, which is what’s most important from my POV.
I do feel sorry for daughter though, if you’re a stickler for laws I’m guessing you don’t let her drink… That would suck, I don’t drink much, but a bit here and a bit there doesn’t hurt me (much!) and I’m sure it’ll stop me doing something stupid when I do turn 18. But she’s a Baptist, not a big fan of drinking anyway? I guess you’re lucky if you feel so morally obliged – in certain situations at least – that you have a daughter who’s rather “morally bound”.
It’s afternoon here, and that was a rather thoughtful comment. Thank you. I wouldn’t feel too bad about poor “judging prowess” today, you’re not alone
382 oouchan
April 1st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
382. Mark: First thing…this should be my last post for tonight. I have to work tomorrow but will pick this up again.
Having said that, if no one complains, then who finds out about it? Meaning, if 2 adults (even ones that are 16 by law) have sex, who am I to judge? If someone does complain, then we use the case by case…but we still have to keep in mind, they were adults.
You are right…not 1 day, not 1 minute before she turns 18. I know the rules get to you…been there! I about broke all of them and got in trouble a lot too!
I am a stickler, but I know the affects of a bad decision. I just want her to use her head…that’s all. As for drinking…she has tried wine and beer. She is with me and not at a party or friend’s home. She is more aware of morals now, being Babtist then she was before. I am happy for that, at least!
Also, I am actually concidered the “cool” mom on my street. I have guaged ears, dress like a teenager and don’t act like an adult. I am a parent but a friend too. She thinks I’m cool and so do her friends. I can’t beat that. My next thing to do is a tattoo…of course it will be my daughters name. I just want her to know that I love her and that I will be there to support her. She just needs to think first before acting.
Well, you have a nice afternoon. I will talk with you again later.
383 Mark
April 1st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
383. oouchan : What I meant was is it wrong for two 15 year olds – or 17 wherever you are – to have sex, if they don’t tell anyone? That’s a flaw in the whole “It’s always wrong” approach, you can’t fix the “problem” if you don’t know. I know it may seem a bit immature, but I’ve changed a lot as a person and I’ve always hated arbitrary decision-making, so I doubt I’ll ever grow out of it.
I don’t party, I’ve had a touch of port and some wine and beer – all at home with my parents. I’m not an alco or anything, but I do think that responsible and relatively early exposure – mid-teens at the latest, but not before 12/13ish – is paramount in preventing binge-drinking or other alcohol related problems. It’s good to see that you obviously share that sentiment.
I will probably have a rather enjoyable time, just about to bust out the guitar. Bring on the metal. I’m going to be VERY busy for the next two weeks almost. Cross-country and soccer game tomorrow, then on Saturday going on a cricket tour with my school’s first XI, then coming back and going BACK down south to play representative futsal. Before, beautiful, relaxing holidays… For less than a week – I was supposed to have 2, stupid sport – before school again, yay! It’s hard to convey sarcasm over the internet. Anyway, that’s why I might not be on for a while after tonight. Anon’s probably happy with that, that #1 commentor spot will be his again
384 oouchan
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:00 am
384. Mark…I understand. If we don’t know, how do we fix it? Education is the only way that we can get across to the younger ones. Is it absolute? Nope, but it’s their choice to disobey. They will pay the consequences for that.
Let me make it a bit clearer. If my kid was 17 and had sex with another 17 year old, I would be pissed but I wouldn’t send him to jail….I might beat the living hell out of him, but no jail. If he was 18, sayonara! He is an adult even if it’s on his birthday. I still support the laws, but if both are underage, then they are both stupid.
Ha! No doubt Anon will make up for it while you are away. Have fun with your activities. BTW…my kid said if you have any recordings of your music, she would love to hear it.
385 Metalhead
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
So instead of responding to my comment at all, you call out something arguable as “one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read on this site”. Hmm, Children Of Bodom, with their gothy influences, raspy vocals, and listing on iTunes as black metal, can’t possibly be disputed as black metal. Even if it isn’t true that they’re black metal (They have a lot of melodeath), and it might not be, I don’t see how that justifies such a condescending and pointless response. You need to get off your fucking pedestal.
Also, I await anyone explaining to me how Mastodon or Between The Buried And Me can be described as death metal. Under your logic, with “popularity and technical skill” qualifying someone, I can include lots of people. Let’s look at Jimi Hendrix.
1. Having at least two albums with death metal elements in it- Nope.
2. The technicality and musicianship-Absolutely!
3. Popularity-Loads, more then anyone else here.
4. Importance in the history of death metal-Virtually none, but still revolutionized modern guitar playing, so he must have some.
5. Awesomeness-Oh yeah.
Now Mastodon-
1. Having at least two albums with death metal elements in it-Nope.
2. The technicality and musicianship-Lots.
3. Popularity-Less then Hendrix, but a fair amount.
4. Importance in the history of death metal-None.
5. Awesomeness-Tons.
Hendrix has as much reason to be here as Mastodon. What’s going on?
386 Mark
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
385. oouchan : If we don’t know, is it a problem at all? I hate arbitrary laws. I understand that because of the general stupidity and immaturity of this day and age they are probably necessary, but I still hate them. But as I said, principles don’t bother me, I’m not going to do something that “stupid”. All I can do is hope the people around me don’t either.
I don’t bother with recordings, I can’t find a good enough backing band to even bother trying to find a place, and I probably need some vocal coaching before I start really playing my orginals. But when I do find myself a drummer who is both willing to play seriously and can actually play, I’ll be sure to let y’all know
386. Metalhead : HAH, HAHAHAHA!!! Sorry, I had to get it out of my system straight up there. Your post/s are really quite silly and immature. Ok, here we go :
In what universe are CoB anything near Black Metal? And don’t you dare say “But iTunes sez they iz!!!”. MeloDEATH and BM are very different genres, wanna guess why the capitals?
The reason I “attacked” your post was quite simple, you started it. If you had come here and said “Umm, excuse me but I always thought CoB were more Black Metal, am I wrong there?” or even “I don’t like CoB on that list, I thought they were BM?”, I wouldn’t have cared a bit. But you just bust in and call this list “f*cking retarded”. Do you actually expect civility in return? Because if you do, that would indicate a lower level of intelligence than I first thought.
FYI, I didn’t write this list, so there’s no point bitching to me about it. If you actually read the earlier comments I dislike most of the choices on there that you do, amazing huh? And Hendrix didn’t “revolutionize” modern guitar playing, that is the realm of Dylan, Davies etc, there were plenty of guitarists playing the same brand of music as Hendrix in the 60′s, he was just technically the most profficient.
387 Metalhead
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Even if I was “silly and immature”, I’d rather be that then an elitist like you.
I’ll leave it at that.
Although saying Bob Dylan was more in the realm of revolutionizing guitar then Hendrix is pretty stupid.
388 oouchan
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
387. Mark: Well, hope everything works out for you.
Got a question….why would Hendrix be concidered death metal? I don’t get that point. But I did know that Dylan was much more influential guitar-wise. Hendrix just added flare. Don’t get me wrong. He was an excellent musician, but I prefer Dylan.
389 Mark
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
388. Metalhead : Lol, yeah, call the person who’s been viciously condemning elitists an elitist… Anyone else think that’s stupid? I would rather be silly and immature than elitist, but thank god I don’t have to be considered either, you on the other hand…
Bob Dylan going electric changed what a young generation thought of electric guitars, if you were a guitarist you’d know he revolutionized modern guitar much more Hendrix.
389. oouchan : I doubt very much that anything at all will work out for me, but there’s always my old escape plan I guess.
He was trying to show that Jimi adhered to just as many of the criteria and Mastodon, which he did quite well, with the exception of certain comments. I prefer Hendrix to Dylan though, can’t beat that mo
390 Maggot
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:20 pm
390 Mark: Bob Dylan going electric changed what a young generation thought of electric guitars
That’s a tad clichéd. He was practically booed off the stage. Try Chuck Berry.
391 Mark
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:41 am
391. Maggot : He was booed off stage by his fans – a representative sample of them anyway – but the music industry sat up and took notice.
392 Maggot
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 am
392 Mark: The “industry” only took notice because he was one of the biggest folk stars of the day, and his seeming abandoning of those roots (at folk festival, no less) pretty much spelled the end of that genre. Yeah, it was a big deal, but I’m just saying, I don’t feel as strongly as you that it “revolutionized modern guitar”. Let me preface that by saying – I assume you are referring to “in America”, because the simultaneously occurring British invasion would take care of that, whether Dylan did his thing or not.
Hendrix OTOH, “revolutionized” it by bringing new things to the table, in the way of effects, playing style, and techniques. The guy was light years ahead of his time IMO. I would go so far as to say, I think he was “better” than Page. Not trying to gratuitously provoke you with that statement, I’ve always felt that way, but it did seem apropos to mention here.
393 Kahm N. Since
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Re: Mastodon
“This band was a tough one to put on this list because they are not really death metal,”
And because they motherfucking suck rotted goat gonads. Seriously, they blow and suck shit simultaneously, which if I hadn’t seen them do it live I’d swear was impossible.
394 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
April 4th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Hahaha Im happy to see people still comment on this.
386 Metalhead- To bad I made this list, not you. If you did you could have added hendrix, the beegees, and barney.
395 JKS
April 4th, 2009 at 8:53 am
NO AMON AMARTH??? Are you fucking kidding me?
396 EpicTroller
April 6th, 2009 at 3:14 am
yeah but possessed fucking sucks.
397 EpicTroller
April 6th, 2009 at 3:16 am
You don’t even know what an elitist is, people who enjoy metal start commenting on this list and fucking tadaa, were all fucking elitists, I don’t see this shit happening in the best rock bands list. Stop starting stupid fights over the internet. Ever heard of fucking opinion.
398 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
April 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Ha ha ha this just shows how loyal metal fans are to their music
399 oouchan
April 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
399. General Tits Von Chodehoffen: You should see what happens when you get a Beatles fan and a Led Zepplin fan together!
400 tom
April 7th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
# 12 slash ate is an idiot in flames come!
Dethklok rules!!!!!!!!!!!
401 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
April 8th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
400 oouchan- haha ya man. Once I tired to explain to my uncle that Ringo is not really a very good drummer, compared to the things people can do today. He was quite mad to say the least.
402 omar
April 10th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Death is the best
403 Death
April 10th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Death is #1.
Why isn’t Pestilence on this list?
404 Eric
April 13th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
i’m just happy you have CoB and Slayer on the list
405 Mark
April 16th, 2009 at 9:58 am
393. Maggot : Finally got around to looking at the list again and bam, I have to explain straight off the bat why Page has been more influential than Hendrix. Page invented or inspire many styles of playing :
Eddie’s tapping – Heartbreaker
The Ramones’ downstrokes – Communication Breakdown
Not many guitarists boast that kind of obvious and very evident influence, then of course you’ve got all the subtle stuff and even the non-guitar stuff. Trust me, coming from a guitarist, Page owns on an influence scale, him and Iommi rip that shit up between them
406 johnny
April 18th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Dude to be honest most of those bands arent death metal. Also Deicide #2? What is that?
407 Maggot
April 21st, 2009 at 12:13 am
406 Mark: Page invented or inspire many styles of playing:
Eddie’s tapping – Heartbreaker
The Ramones’ downstrokes – Communication Breakdown
Not many guitarists boast that kind of obvious and very evident influence
Eh, you named two things, and one is just a simple power chord strumming technique. Tapping, ok, but frankly I wasn’t really comparing Hendrix & Page influence-wise (you’d compared Hendrix to Dylan is why I was touting Hendrix). I was saying that I prefer Hendrix’s *ability* over Page. Admittedly, it’s a totally subjective opinion and they’re both masters, so for me to say I favor the talent of one over the other infers an unintended slight to the other, so it’ll probably be pointless to try and debate this, if you were so inclined. But watching them both play however, Hendrix overall style and in particular his fret work just looks to me much more fluid, effortless (again, not that Page’s is “poor”). His additional use of wrap-over thumb fretting is a unique and added dimension. It’s really a shame that his body of work for comparison is so much smaller.
him and Iommi rip that shit up
Iommi never impressed me all that much, to be honest. Oh yeah, I’m a huge Sabbath fan (saw them live!), don’t get me wrong, and yeah Sabbath “wrote the book on heavy metal”, but IMO that’s more from their overall typically down-tuned fuzz and distortion sound (i.e. “heavy”) rather than his actual technical playing ability. I would put Ritchie Blackmore WAY above Iommi on the list of who had more ability and technical influence on later generations of guitarists.
408 Mark
April 21st, 2009 at 12:38 am
408. Maggot : “…Eh, you named two things…”
I do have others, just lazy. Recording techniques were also pioneered by Page – and some by Hendrix incidentally, although they were all guitar based, Page’s were more across the board – but football training takes a lot out of me so I can’t be bothered expanding on that at the moment.
“…one is just a simple power chord strumming technique…”
Please explain to me how that actually makes a difference? How do we rank things now, first of all lead improv, then lead licks, then arpeggiated chords, strummed chords and then riffs and power chords? I don’t see how the simplicity makes it any less of an important achievement. I actually think that it’s a testement to him that he did something that we look at so trivially now, it’s obviously become such commonplace.
“…It’s really a shame that his body of work for comparison is so much smaller…”
Aye, t’is. I do love Hendrix’s playing. Might I also now draw your attention to both Jimmy and Jimi’s earlier careers though. Apparently – this is off the top of my head, I’ll look for it later – Page was the session guitarist on all – or a number at least – of the top 10 songs in England at one point in time, that’s a pretty good effort. And of course, who could forget Little Richard
“…IMO that’s more from their overall typically down-tuned fuzz and distortion sound (i.e. “heavy”) rather than his actual technical playing ability. I would put Ritchie Blackmore WAY above Iommi on the list of who had more ability and technical influence on later generations of guitarists.”
I think you miss the Iommi metal influence then, it *was* the downtuning and the subsequent sound – plus the amp sound of course – that invented the “metal” of today. All of that thrash and the more extreme 80′s metal varieties, they were all hugely influenced by Iommi’s style. Sure *some* “metal” may have taken more from Ritchie – hair being the most prominent I can think of off the top of my head – but there is are a lot more Iommi-influenced guitarists than Blackmore ones out there. I love Ritchie though, as I do Tony, so we can agree on some things. You got to see Sabbath live? Lucky bugger, Ozzy or Dio?
409 Maggot
April 21st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
409 Mark: but football training takes a lot out of me so I can’t be bothered expanding on that at the moment.
Eh no biggie. I’m not really looking to get into a hardcore debate on it.
Page was the session guitarist on all – or a number at least – of the top 10 songs in England at one point in time
Yeah Page’s early session work is well chronicled, but that’s an interesting factoid that I wasn’t aware of, thanks.
I think you miss the Iommi metal influence then, it *was* the downtuning and the subsequent sound – plus the amp sound of course – that invented the “metal” of today.
Well that’s pretty much what I said. I don’t deny that practically every heavy metal band ever will cite Black Sabbath as a major influence. I just don’t think that Iommi himself (as a player) is held as highly in that regard. Personal opinion.
Sure *some* “metal” may have taken more from Ritchie – hair being the most prominent I can think of off the top of my head
Um, no pun intended? lol
Seriously though, come on. Blackmore is credited as being an originator of the so-called “shredding” style, aka “neo-classical metal”, which has been widely copied (for lack of a better word) by such greats as Yngwie Malmsteen, and IMO the often overlooked and greatly unheralded Uli Roth. He’s also influenced the likes of Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, and IMO he was a bigger influence on Van Halen than Page was.
He popularized the use of a scalloped neck that is employed by some of these other later guys, and he’s also known for his finger-picking ability. Sorry to pontificate…if you can’t tell, I’m a huge Ritchie Blackmore fan.
You got to see Sabbath live? Lucky bugger, Ozzy or Dio?
Please, you blasphemer! Black Sabbath without Ozzie is not Black Sabbath.
I like Dio as a vocalist though, and I was fortunate enough to see Rainbow live, with guess who on guitar (rhetorical question). Unfortunately I never had an opportunity to see Deep Purple, I was a bit too young. Case in point though – When Dio went to Sabbath, my take on it at the time was that they sounded like Rainbow but with lesser guitar work. FWIW.
410 oouchan
April 21st, 2009 at 1:44 pm
I saw the post here by Maggot and I have to say that I agree. Black Sabbath isn’t Black Sabbath without Ozzy! Dio is….ok.
Maggot: Have you seen Pink Floyd in concert? I got to see Rodger Waters in 2006 for the ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ tour. What was so neat about it all was I got to take my daughter. She sang along and enjoyed herself completely.
411 Mark
April 21st, 2009 at 1:49 pm
410. Maggot : “…Well that’s pretty much what I said. I don’t deny that practically every heavy metal band ever will cite Black Sabbath as a major influence. I just don’t think that Iommi himself (as a player) is held as highly in that regard. Personal opinion…”
I’ve never bothered talking to many other guitarists about what they think of him, because personally I find his solos great for playing and learning from – but that doesn’t make him a good player of course. Also, Page and Iommi were the first big users of those “heavy riff” driven songs, with Tony’s being heavier typically. This is now just a given in modern metal, but without Sabbath…
“…Blackmore is credited as being an originator of the so-called “shredding” style, aka “neo-classical metal”…”
That I did not know because I’m not a huge fan of the genre to tell you the truth. Or Yngwie for that matter
“…he’s also known for his finger-picking ability…”
Eh? And Page isn’t? (And Brian May for that matter
)
“…Black Sabbath without Ozzie is not Black Sabbath…”
Agreed, except about the next bit. I dont’ much like Dio as a vocalist, not a big fan of Rainbow subsequently. I do like Ritchie though, and Ian – both of them – Deep Purple MkII were like gods amongst men
412 Maggot
April 21st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
411 oouchan: Have you seen Pink Floyd in concert?
Yes but unfortunately it was after Waters had left. Was probably around ’89 or so. It was a great show, but without Waters it wasn’t “the real Floyd”. Hehe.
Stupidly, I wasn’t that big of a fan of theirs during their prime. I liked them and all, had their albums, but I was too much of a head-banger back then to appreciate the finesse of Floyd like I do now. I never got into the really early Syd Barrett era stuff (I know, Piper is a classic), but I will put David Gilmore right up there among the best guitarists ever. Btw, I have the opening notes of Shine On You Crazy Diamond as the ringtone on my cell phone!
Mark, oouchan: Re Dio – I really only like his work from the earlier Rainbow days. Not so much any more. Later on fronting “Dio”, all his songs pretty much sound the same. His voice does tend to dominate the music. He seems kind of passé to me nowadays.
413 oouchan
April 21st, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Maggot: I agree. Without Waters it wasn’t Pink Floyd. Syd was good, but I didn’t get into him as much. I do agree that Gilmore was very good.
I have “Hey You” as a ringtone as well.
414 Maggot
April 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
414 oouchan: I have “Hey You” as a ringtone as well.
Nice. Back in the days of land-line answering machines, I had “Welcome to the Machine” (that specific phrase from the song) on ours !
415 oouchan
April 21st, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Maggot: That would have been great! I would have just kept calling to hear it! (I’m really not a stalker…that was just a joke, hehe)
I had scenes from Monty Python on my machine. Wink, Wink, Nudge, Nudge and “I’m a Lumberjack” song. I also have “Bring out your dead” as a alert reminder for voicemail on my cell. But the best one is “Run like Hell” when my mom calls.
416 Maggot
April 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
416 oouchan: But the best one is “Run like Hell” when my mom calls.
lol too funny! Well at least you don’t use Maiden’s “Number of the Beast”, like I do for my wife’s calls…
417 BloodSuckingLeech
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:22 pm
DETHKLOK!
418 oouchan
April 24th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Mark: Since I know this is mostly your forte….Where does Combichrist fit in? Just found this band today (before my kid, I might add) and fell in love with their music.
419 Mark
April 26th, 2009 at 1:45 am
419. oouchan : I wouldn’t consider them “metal” per se, well, at all actually. They’re commonly described as falling into “aggrotech”. But to make it simpler you could just say “electro-industrial”, much the way you could call CoB DM, when really they’re Melodeath – the big fans will go off at you, but most people will just look at you confused anyway
420 oouchan
April 26th, 2009 at 8:46 am
420. Mark: Cool. My kid now loves them. Very weird music but I love the beat to it. Thanks!
421 Mark
April 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
421. oouchan : Weird, weird music. But the beat is kinda cool, and even I don’t mind a *bit* of techno every now and then
422 btbam? LOL
April 28th, 2009 at 11:47 am
LOL@ this list.
423 promod
April 28th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
freak these assholes …………
why rate u underdog phenoms ….death metal rules and the father chuck sculdiner rules and cob,slayer,venom and fuckin cannibal corpse rocks ….these are the 5 bands to look upon and morbil angel to add ….
credit to chuck …… death metal rules
424 Kahm N. Since
May 6th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Mastodon still sucks rotted goat nethers; so hard, it threatens to create a quantum singularity
425 Mark
May 6th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
425. Kahm N. Since : I think they’re missing you at the convention mate, you’d better get going…
426 isoron11.11
May 8th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
To even entertain the idea of a “best” in any music genre is proof that your fuckin retarted. Repeat after me….. i’m sofa king retar tit!!! Idiots
427 Mark
May 10th, 2009 at 4:04 am
427. isoron11.11 : Why even bother reading this list if the whole premise of it was insulting or stupid to you?
428 wow
May 10th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
the guy who made this is absolutely retarded.
429 out
May 14th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Abigail williams,the faceless,veil of maya,born of osiris
430 hhst
May 19th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Children of bodom was the only good band in this list
431 jo
May 24th, 2009 at 7:55 am
u call this the top-10…ohhh bull shit….ya some r gud..but some jus sucks to the core…..i mean children of bodom…..slayer…???? r they even metal..oh i dought…this list sucks…n i kno that all of u would agree with me..
432 Kahm N Since
May 24th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
MARK:
There’s a convention of Sane People (AKA “People who realize Mastodon sucks to such a degree that the members should all be executed for being a part of such a musical abortion”)???
SIGN ME UP, BRO
433 Mark
May 24th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
433. Kahm N Since : And there’s also a list of extremely annoying and retarded people who come to LV for the simple purpose of getting a rise out of someone. I must admit that you picked your target well, I feed trolls more often than most of the other regulars. But not today, unlucky
434 Tayyab
June 13th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
These are greats bands
i like them
espacilly
death
deicide
435 .luCiFER
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:59 am
okay guys…..here’s MY DEATH-related top 4
1. Children of Bodom-my fav band…goodvocals…amaxing guitar piano bla bla
2.Cradle of Filth- Love the vocals aswell altho childlike but gives a more terror image..for those thinkers out there
3. Slayer- u know why its on the list..the start of “angel of death” is babaal
4. Death- they are fukkin amazing yes..but C.o.B jes have that flavor
i dont like Cannibal Corpse..they sound very weird
and Maelmoth or wtever…….fuck you! Children of Bodom DO NOT suck….i bet u wud lick their toes if they were infront of you playing..WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
436 Alex
June 29th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
DETHKLOK IS A REAL BAND YOU TARDS!!!
437 pathetic display
June 30th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
this is one pathetic display of people trying too hard
3/4 of the music listed on this post are shitbags.. the other 1/4 are only listed for being so mainstream you would have to be retarded with an IQ of 52 to not know of them.. sure they are amaazing bands to have made it so mainstream in their fields
but you people listen to SHIT music
good bands.. suchas–> decrepit birth, odious mortem, deamon, the faceless, psycroptic, kronos, origin, abysmal torment, guttural secrete, vital remains, deicide, braindrill, devourment, dying fetus, nailshitter, neuraxis, necrophagist… THOSE are decent bands…. CHRIST
438 Kahm N. Since
July 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
434 “And there’s also a list of extremely annoying and retarded people who come to LV for the simple purpose of getting a rise out of someone.”
If you want congratulations for making that list, look elsewhere.
426 “convention mate”
What?
439 death cry
July 11th, 2009 at 8:03 am
slayer is not fucking death metal its thrash metal
440 totalstranger
July 31st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
no Morbid Angel, Pestilence, Gorguts, Obituary, Suffocation or the mighty Pungent Stench? pfft
441 Olivia
August 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
um.. u forgot BURZUM, they scared the living shit out of me when i first listend to them, and lets not forget that the singer is a psychopath
442 sav 0)))
August 21st, 2009 at 10:56 am
shit list, mastodon? children of bodom? arch enemy, dethlok (FFS), slayer?
go away, gain some musical intellect and destroy this list as it’s embarrassing both of us.
as for olivia and her suggestion with “burzum”, i seem to have accidentally entered a “know nothing about death metal site”.
example, .lucifer above names 1 actual death metal band and then says “i dont like Cannibal Corpse..they sound very weird”,
yeah mate, they sound like death metal, something you obviously never listened too.
so long fuckers…
443 Stunt Man Mike…
August 21st, 2009 at 11:14 am
I used to love heavy/death/black metal when I was a kid. Then I grew up.
444 sav 0)))
August 21st, 2009 at 11:28 am
are’nt you clever for posting such a comment
445 Bobnoxious
September 4th, 2009 at 9:13 am
He grew up into the kind of guy that calls himself stunt man. Mummy couldn’t afford the firemans outfit in his size.
446 sav 0)))
September 4th, 2009 at 9:27 am
LOL,
he’s harbouring deep resentment ever since and vents his insecurities on blogs like this
447 Shane
September 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
I have to say, i was not expecting cannibal corpse to be rated 6th place but thats still not bad, I have to say thank you by the way, I never actually knew who the “father” of death metal was, nice job on the list by the way
448 sav 0)))
September 6th, 2009 at 8:10 am
another faux death metal fan
449 JFrater Didn’t approve my list. damn
September 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
1.Mortification
2.Mortification
3.Mortification
4.Mortification
5.Mortification
6.Mortification
7.Mortification
8.Mortification
9.Mortification
10.Mortification
Every death metal should be like MORTIFICATION!!
GOD RULZ.. ^^
450 AKiB
September 11th, 2009 at 2:06 am
OPETH should be in this list……
Though they are melodic death…….
451 Cromlech
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Shit list!!!
You forggot all the great Death Metal bands from the early 90´s, you don´t know a shit!
452 metalheadmayhem
September 24th, 2009 at 9:28 am
you forgot whitechapel.
you need to hear them. then i will look at your “death metal” list
453 Zach
October 1st, 2009 at 5:26 pm
This list is a joke. Needs:
Mortification
Arsis
Opeth (how you got away without them I’ll never know)
At the Gates
In Flames
Or at least have a basic understanding of the genre, at the VERY least.
454 skivi
October 3rd, 2009 at 2:25 am
You forgot SlipKnoT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
455 Daniel
October 7th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
wtf is this shit no one likes slayer lol
where is….
i killed the prom queen
Parkway drive
carpathian
every time i die….
down load kill the music by every time i die that will put them in the list
456 Zach
October 11th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Not that great of a list but I love BTBAM, Death, Deicide and necrophagist.
457 xXSpitXx
October 12th, 2009 at 9:17 am
ARE U CRAZY?!?!?! DETHKLOK IS A REAL BAND!!!! EXTREAME DEATHMEATAL!!!!! OPETH OWNS ASWELL…..CRAZY PEOPLOE LEARN DEATHMETAL
458 roflbot
October 13th, 2009 at 3:31 am
the bands in the comments are even more laughable than the actual list, but how could you forget morbid angel tsk tsk, oh thats right “3. Popularity”
459 bassbait
October 14th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
I’m sorry to disagree with most people, but Death is THE best death metal band of all time. It’s no competition. He showed everybody how it was done, and did it completely right the first time. He never had a bad moment, out of the 7 albums he released. He spawned multiple sub-genres of the music, and is ultimately inspiration for any death metal band who would come after. Deicide is nothing, Morbid angel is nothing, and Obituary is nothing, because death puts them to shame. It’s not really my opinion, because it’s just true. He is the reason why death metal ever existed and in every aspect he invented it. I will admit there are other important bands, but none are as important or as great as Death was and still is.
460 blodflekk
October 15th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
mastodon and slayer should NOT be here, corpse and behemoth should be higher. And where is obituary? and why do you kids keep saying burzum? learn your fucking music, burzum is black metal!
461 Demon
October 16th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Cannibal Corpse should be 1st
Cos tjy represent every aspect wat death metal is.
slayer,mastodon, between d burried n me aint death metal.
n u missed out som of the classic death metal bands which r really good
\m/
462 tsunami
October 16th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
behemoth isn’t THAT good. good job on CC tho. slayer shouldn’t be one there cuz slayer isn’t even that good even it was a thrash+death metal list, in which case METALLICA would pwn slayer. but since this is a death metal list i would suggest taking off slayer/btbam/even children of bodom isn’t really death metal.
i would suggest dark tranquillity and amon amarth to be on your list.
463 maDu
October 18th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Wow, This is really poor list i ever seen. Not even death metal list, if you don’t know this music, don’t make any fucking list.
464 tsunami
October 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
oh yah using the rubrics of evaluating a dm band would let mastodon score 0pts…
465 carnage
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 am
this is one of the worst death metal lists ever to appear on earth.
466 wormphlegm
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:19 am
one of the worst?
it is the worst
467 MetalJunkiie
October 25th, 2009 at 11:49 am
i enjoyed the list, and to all of you in previous comments before me who mentioned them, bolt thrower is TERRIBLE. if ever there was a band to turn me off of “metal”, (quotation marks indicating the whole genre of metal, not the stupid sub-genres.) it would be bolt thrower. now i know i will be reprimended for my choices but i, as many of u would sodomize someone for, am into postmortem promises, job for a cowboy, i declare war, cannibal corpse(hey might get away with that one) burning the masses, years spent cold, and U2 (fuck u all U2 is great even if they are enirely unrelated to everything i just said.) great list though, turned me on to some new shit
468 Aman
October 28th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
mmmmmmmmm,SLAYER nice to see this fcuking list
they are not a death metal
O . K
469 Death Metal
October 28th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Mid-American Metal Fest Rocks Halloween
http://www.edwardsvillescene.com/events/music/mid-american-metal-fest-rocks-halloween/
470 DemonHunter
October 30th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
What exodus is not anywhere on the list?? Shame on you guys.
471 wormphlegm
October 31st, 2009 at 2:47 am
exodus? death metal?
delete this post now, too many people making complete dicks of themselves.. exodus FFS
472 Terran Wars
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
What about Amon Amarth???
473 Bouldertron
November 5th, 2009 at 1:25 am
What is this gut talking about!! Dethklok is a real band -_- I’m not saying you have to put them on the list I’m just saying Brendon Small has a bnad to go on tour with and play as Dethklok. Dethklok is an actual band in real life LOL
474 metalheadbanger
November 8th, 2009 at 8:00 am
WHERE DA HECK IS LAMB OF GOD, DO ANY OF YOU EVEN KNOW TRUE METAL BANDS, LAMB OF GOD SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRST. THIS IS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
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475 miiiiasma
November 10th, 2009 at 9:35 am
oh no no no honey, this list couldn’t be more wrong
476 yeli
November 14th, 2009 at 2:26 am
ummm. whitechapel? i vote yes. kthnx
477 V throne
November 16th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Ya you dont know a fucking thing about death metal. Alsmost all these bands arent even death metal.
478 totalstranger
November 17th, 2009 at 8:24 am
@Terran Wars (473):
great death/viking metal band!!!!
479 totalstranger
November 17th, 2009 at 8:28 am
yeah and I agree with what others have said. Burzum isn’t even CLOSE to being DM. The early stuff is Black Metal, and the later stuff is ..Black Ambient I guess. Varg’s first band Old Funeral can be considered DM however, but the fanboy wont know that band
480 wormphlegm
November 18th, 2009 at 4:30 am
finally, a comment that makes sense.
no doubt 90% of those who comment here will google old funeral,
as i have said, delete this list, it’s worthless
481 fari666
November 19th, 2009 at 9:31 am
1 – death
2 – cannibal corpse
3 – dying fetus
4 – napalm death
5 – atheist
6 – necrophagist
7 – deicide
8 – cephalic carnage
9 – nile
10 – gorefest
482 refractorhead
November 21st, 2009 at 5:22 pm
so these death metal bands dont have to be actually DEATH METAL BANDS???
silly list here.
483 Skinofyourteeth
November 22nd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
You guys are pussys. what about fuckin’ Cuntworm, Impetigo, Mortician, Crypticus, Cock and Ball Torture, and Otep? I listen to good shit and I’m a fuckin’ chick.
484 CorpseMaster
November 24th, 2009 at 4:57 am
This list is honestly horrible. COB is not a Death metal band, COB is Extreme Metal and completely different Genre. And slayer is Thrash. Half the bands on your list don’t use Tremelo Picking, which is what makes a death metal band death metal. And the number one band on your list… isn’t death metal either. Death is a Thrash Metal band
485 CorpseMaster
November 24th, 2009 at 4:59 am
And Skin of your teeth, all your bands are unheard of. When you start listening to good music, I’ll consider listening to what you listen. Listen to some Deathspell Omega and Xasthur
486 pussy licker
November 26th, 2009 at 3:02 am
wht the fuck opeth is missing
487 Carnage
November 26th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Deicide, Cannibal Corpse, Mastodon and Between the Buried and Me???..U gotta b kidding me!!!
488 VisionAndTheVoice
November 27th, 2009 at 12:30 am
1.Death
2.Morbid Angel
3.Entombed
4.Vader
5.Bolt Thrower
6.Deicide
7.Nile
8.Cannibal Corpse
9.Carcass
10.At The Gates
11.Dark Tranquillity
12.Malevolent Creation
13.Hypocrisy
14.In Flames(old)
15.Kataklysm/Quo Vadis (needed to include them lol, i’m Canadian)
489 Parth
November 30th, 2009 at 5:16 am
Where the fuck is OPETH????? this list suxxxxx
490 Double S
December 4th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Who cares if Dethklok is a cartoon or not… They should be #1 PERIOD………………………………………………………………
491 metalribz
December 6th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Needs MOAR Opeth
492 ass
December 7th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
were the fuck is whitechapel or job for a cowboy
493 xombiemonkey
December 7th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
I’d also add Morbid Angel and Opeth. Morbid Angel just because they’re freakin’ awesome and they were one of the first to really have satanic elements in their music, and Opeth because of how progressive and beautiful their songs can get
494 David
December 9th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
With only 10 spots, of course bands will be left out, so honestly, your list is pretty damn good, with one exception: NILE needs to be in there. They may be the most technically talented death metal band I’ve ever heard. Otherwise, pretty good stuff. Bravo.
495 sykspike
December 13th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
eh i have to admit sepultura & obituary rock, but slayer and cannibal corpse are in another league!!
496 Dave Grohl
December 13th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Where is Alphabeat and venaga boys?
497 Mark
December 14th, 2009 at 9:16 am
@CorpseMaster (485):
“…Death is a Thrash Metal band”
*Facepalm*
498 sav0)))
December 14th, 2009 at 9:43 am
people.
90% of the people who post comments here are pathetic scene kids who cannot tell the difference between death metal and their elbow.
90% listen to the god awful deathcore nonsense and have no musical merit or understanding of death metal so any argument with them is null and void
499 alex
December 17th, 2009 at 11:20 am
I think cannibal corpse leader of the list .
500 DANIEL
December 27th, 2009 at 4:12 am
Great effort on the list, and phenomenal response from all of you. It makes my heart warm to know that the love of metal in this hip-hop, pop, hipster, country influenced culture of ours isn’t being completely overrun. My fellow metal heads I salute you!
That being said, it’s great we all have something to say about the material this person took the time out of their day to write about, but, we ALL have different tastes of music. Black, Death, Grind, Thrash, Speed, Heavy…it all has one word in common….METAL. We can all debate which is better forever.
I think music needs to be judged on a couple of different fronts. How influential they were to the music around them. How much they pushed the boundaries to open our minds to new sounds and ideas. Musical talent and originality (mostly this). How far their music reached (harder to do in modern society), and how long their reign lasted. We will all like different things, for example, I personaly would have loved to see Meshuggah, At the Gates, Dying Fetus, In Flames, Carcass, Berzerker (the album “Dissimulate” at least), Opeth, Mortician and other such bands on the list. Few I would subtract from the list though. It is so very hard to list a top ten that everyone, or anyone for that matter, agrees with. We should all band together and start a top rated metal (all kinds of metal) band rating website.
Bands like Death…OK, I understand they laid the forefront for what was to come, and that is a big deal, but I don’t think that automatically allots them the number one slot. Music is like a living being, always changing and evolving. We love who we have become, but would any of you, those that believe in evolution, fall in love with a neanderthal just because it is what you came from? My answer is no.
Personally, I love the deep, heavy, guttural sound of modern metal guitars, the mortifyingly passionate screaming vocals and the perfectly timed, intricate, and moving drums combination. Older bands like Sabbath, Death and even….(again, this is only my opinion) Slayer, lack for me these things at this point. I know some of this is due to technology, some is just what they were exposed to. I get why they get the reverence some of you give to them, but I don’t share the same sympathy. They were all fantastic in their time, but continuing to worship their way of metal (for me) is antiquated. Let us move on like our fathers of metal did. Let us continue to expand our horizons, never to forget where we came from, but to embrace what there is to come in the world of metal.
501 the philosopher
December 30th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
cool list,
so happy to see DEATH in the number 1 spot!
502 no one
December 31st, 2009 at 12:55 am
What about six feet under chris barnes was part of cannibal corpse
503 Matt
December 31st, 2009 at 2:21 am
I just skimmed this, and I have to agree with those who’ve been pointing out that a lot of bands on here aren’t death metal. Then there’s also the issue with a band like Death, that released its best material as a non-death band in the ’90s. Does Death really deserve to be a top 10 death metal band based on Scream Bloody Gore and Leprosy? Probably, but they’re certainly no lock for #1.
The problem with Possessed is that musically, they’re not very good, at least in comparison with Morbid Angel (formed in ’84) and Death (formed in ’83).
General, just because a list name sounds cool isn’t necessarily the best reason to use it. You mentioned the presence of blast beats and growls, which is good, but many of those bands never use them.
The problem with a top death metal bands list, as opposed to a top albums list, is that a lot of the best death metal albums were by bands who only released one or two albums, or at least that many good ones. Ripping Corpse’s Dreaming with the Dead, for example, is probably a top 10 death metal album, but it’d be tough to justify putting the band in a top 10 list as a band because they broke up after its release.
I’ve created a list: (advance warning: I’m biased against Deicide because I personally loathe about 90% of their songs)
1 Morbid Angel
2 Death
3 Carcass
4 Entombed
5 Obituary
6 At the Gates
7 Suffocation
8 Vader
9 Immolation
10 Master
I can defend those picks if necessary, and also concede that there are doubtless another dozen that could fit just as well. I tried to be fair to the different scenes and (up to ’96 or so) eras. Bands like Ripping Corpse, Solstice and Gates of Ishtar get an honourable mention for releasing that one great album each.
Carcass was death metal for Necroticism and Heartwork, so I’m primarily considering those albums rather than their ’80s grind material.
I’m counting all of Death’s catalog, shifty as that is.
The lack of Vader mentions here, at least that I saw, was disheartening.
Thoughts?
504 David
January 8th, 2010 at 7:42 am
I’m sorry but this list is ver bad!! first of all three bands that aren’t Death Metal made it into it!! second of all the bands that are in it and that deserve to be in it are in the wrong positions. Get rid of Slayer(I like them but they ain’t Death Metal, they helped form but they ain’t Death Metal) BTBAM do not deserve a place on any Death Metal list. Mastadon are you serious c’mon!! seriously despite the fact that they are as about Death Metal as madonna, Mastadon = Progressive Metal/ Rock yes Rock.
obviously a top ten list is not a very good idea but if you are going to do one at least get it right. Matt above me has a very good list but not the list I’d choose because we have different views. Please if you are going to do a list get it right!! bands like Pungent Stench, Dismember, Vader. I read Daniels post and he made a good point because he prefer’s Newer Death Metal whereas I hate it and prefer Older bands because to me that was what Death Metal was. But what pissed me off about this list was!! no Morbid Angel, what the fuck is up with that Morbid Angel are a very important band in Death Metal!! whether you like them or not; to me they are what Death Metal is just plain old Death Metal without any prefix!!
505 josh
January 15th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
I honestly think slipknot should be first because they get 80,000 ppl to sing with them they have some heavy fucking Music and they kick ass eveen though their getting old they should be at the top not only do they get 80,00 ppl at their shows they have more then that they have played at the rose bowl in ca temple city and they where their broke the world record of 103,000 ppl held in that shit so i think slipknot should be top of the line ppl
506 sav0)))
January 16th, 2010 at 2:29 am
slipknot?
you sir, are an idiot
507 David
January 16th, 2010 at 4:59 am
@josh
Get off this list now!! Slipknot!! are you serious?
508 bo
January 16th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Not one of you dipshits knows anything about death metal, if you wanna hear some actual death metal and not your little pussy ass bands like cannibal corpse, behemoth and between the buried and me, oh yeah and dethklok. Try looking up skinless ,carpathian forest, mortician, graveland, grinded nig ,psyclon nine , and enslaved
509 VisionAndTheVoice
January 16th, 2010 at 10:23 am
@bo
Since half the bands you mentioned are Black Metal and not Death metal I am going to presume you know nothing about the genre. Carpathian Forest, Graveland, and Enslaved are all Black Metal. Furthermore it is a strain to even put Psyclon Nine in the extreme metal genre at all. They are very industrial and have elecronica influences, only their recent works having hints of black metal. Again, BLACK METAL, not Death Metal. So, before you go harassing others of their musical incompetence think about what you are saying, ignorance is annoying.
510 David
January 18th, 2010 at 3:21 am
@ VisionAndTheVoice
nice one mate!! hahaha you saved me from correcting him.
511 Unbiased
January 18th, 2010 at 5:43 am
Whoever made this list, you did a good job. Please dont take offense from all the people disagreeing because its obvious they didnt read your paragraphs. i hate children of bodom, but i dont mind you putting it on the list because you are entitled to your own opinion. Sure i think you made some mistakes, but music is too big to be perfectly summed up. Instead people should hear eachothers ideas and check out bands. Whether or not you like them or not doesnt matter, because someone out there does. Keep sharin your ideas and dont be opprese by all the criticism!
512 sav0)))
January 19th, 2010 at 3:21 am
@unbiased.
oppressed by all the criticism?
the criticism arose when the list was titled “top ten death metal bands” which contains a minimum of actual death metal and is rife with metalcore and crappy deathcore bands.
if i made a list of my “top ten favourite apples” and included chocolate and bananas it ceases to be a list of apples.
if you want to make a list of death metal bands and if you want to comment on the list then it helps if you actually listen to the genre.
this list and 98% of the subsequent comments are an abomination
513 JAke
January 19th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
you fucking noob DETHKLOCK is a real band.
514 dino
January 26th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
death metal or not between the buried and me at this point has become quite possibly the most talented band of all time no matter what the genre. the way they blend such incredible music with beautiful well thought out lyrics and the difference from alaska to the great misdirect, they are incredible, and by far the best band on this list
515 Daniel
January 27th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Ok, the person who said slipknot is a RETARD!!!!!
Slipknot is nowhere NEAR death metel!!! They are a good band! But they are 100% NOT death metel! They are barly even metel for god’s sake! Nu-metel if you must!
I’m not saying they suck, I’m just saying there not death metel!
( By the way, I think Morbid angel should be here, and Behemoth should be higher on the list a few spots but otherwise, amazing job!!!
516 mike
February 1st, 2010 at 10:51 pm
wth, no heaven shall burn o.0
517 Chico castro
February 5th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Are we talking about Death Metal
This is my playlist:
1. Death
2. Immolation
3. Carcass
4. Deicide
5. Morbid Angel
6. Autopsy
7. Cannibal Corpse
8. Behemoth
9. Nile
10.Im not sure between (Decapitated, Cryptopsy, Hypocrisy or Suffocattion).
Cheers!
518 Blueprint
February 12th, 2010 at 5:39 am
the best metal group I have eva listened to was the kings of death known as Nile!!!!!!!!!!number one on the log
519 Gogmagog
February 14th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Ehm… not that I want to be an obtrusive spergin’ death-nerd, but I’d think one has to at least check the bands themselves, if not the list itself…
Mastodon is not, and has never been, death metal. They’re progressive, and if you disbelieve, show me ONE death metal song from their last 3 albums.
Children of Bodom are much more what is generally called “technical metal” than death. The vocals are clear, the riffs are much more melodic than usual and… yeah, this one is probably quite petty on my side.
Slayer is trash, not death. There’s just one album (Seasons in the Abyss) that has certain death elements, not to mention they plain suck.
And also, no Nile? Forget any other band that can be argued in, they’re generally regarded as the best current death metal band and they don’t even write songs about gore or corpses. At least not recently deceased ones.
520 Enucleator
February 19th, 2010 at 9:17 am
@MonkeyBrains (53):
hey, there’s just a big misunderstanding here : despise of the warning by General Tits, anyone reading “Top DEATH METAL bands” hope to read about…. DEATH METAL bands, i think its pretty obvious why so many pple are disappointed. Like it or nt Death Metal is an important musical genre in metal history. It’s not about snobery, it’s just that we want to see Death Metal bands here, that’s all. I think that the title of the list is just a kind of ignorance mistake, i think this list is too random about metal, and despise the efforts of General, it was too quickly done. For any Death Metal lovers, putting Mastodon, Slayer and BTBAM instead of Napalm Death, Carcass and Nile amongst others is just incorrect. i hope the next list is going to be better than that.
521 Enucleator
February 19th, 2010 at 9:21 am
the title should be ‘Top 10 of extreme metal bands that i think are important in metal history’… not very catchy hu?
and even like that, there are too much important band missing here
anyway, another controversial list!!! 522 comments!!! HAIL,HAIL!!
522 Enucleator
February 19th, 2010 at 9:32 am
here’s my list ^^
http://media.photobucket.com/image/death+metal/xXISAACXx/death_metal_holocaust.jpg?o=52
523 drunkin idiot
February 20th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
1)Death
2)morbid angel
3)possessed
4)atheist
5)carcass
6)obituary
7)deicide
8)cannibal corpse
10)decapitated
524 drunkin idiot
February 20th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
1)Death
2)morbid angel
3)possessed
4)atheist
5)carcass
6)obituary
7)deicide
8)cynic
9)cannibal corpse
10)decapitated
525 Trifixion
February 21st, 2010 at 1:39 am
While I will admit that Death was at the forefront I am about 99% sure that venom was the forefather for death metal. I also can’t agree on Bodom. I think the sheer fact that they suck in concert should have them as they say ‘stricken from the record.’ I seen them in the unholy alliance tour in las vegas and they were boo’d almost entirely through their performance. Also Dying Fetus should merit a mention, although not as well known as some of the other bands on here.
526 this list sucks
February 21st, 2010 at 3:41 pm
This list is horrible. Arch Enemy should never be on any list–it’s too horrible to even be included in a list of the top 10 worst bands.
Behemoth (black) and Mastodon (sludge) aren’t even death metal. BTBAM is not even death metal (prog-death if anything); however, even if you wanted to consider them Death i still wouldn’t put them at 3. And they are one of my top favorite bands.
527 DarthDan
April 15th, 2010 at 2:09 am
where is at the gates and the black dahlia murder??? this list is just an opinion, I guess. really though, mastodon haha
528 Farhan
April 17th, 2010 at 3:31 am
@Schlam fizzer [4]: I thnk Cradle Of filth sud get a place in top 10s
529 sav0)))
April 17th, 2010 at 3:39 am
fail list is fail.
honestly delete this list so nobody else can make tits of themselves.
cradle of filth? – fuck off
530 Kevin
April 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
I wish I could get paid to not know a fucking thin about what the fuck I was talking about like some of the people on here who make these lists, especially this one… Wow, really? Have you ever been to a real METAL show dude? Not a scener show, but a fucking metal show? Apparently not… and only 3 of the bands you put on here are death metal, the rest aren’t even fucking CLOSE…
531 Deugle
May 12th, 2010 at 1:01 am
I’m glad I read the disclaimer at the top. Did a 15-year old emo boy make this list?
532 zander776
May 16th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
WOO DEATH!
Crystal Mountain
533 blakyum
May 18th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
everyone has his own favorite list .. this is mine :
1-INSOMNIUM
2-amon amarth
3-dark tranquility
4- opeth
5-arch enemy
6- soilwork
7-ALL THAT REMAINS
8-children of bodom
9- dimmu borgir
10-rapture
death metal and derives .. melodic death metal . viking death metal (amon amarth) .. kinda gothic death metal (dimmu ) metal/deathcore (rapture all that remains) n death with soilwork ..dark tranquility and INSOMNIUM (LISTEN TO THIS BAND PEOPLE ITS FUCKING AWESOME) .. also opethh .. very kind n awesome bandd .
534 sean
June 3rd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
uhhh where the fuck is lamb of god………… sorry but lamb of god is way too underated!!!!!!!!!
You mother fuckers need to listen and learn!!!!!!!!
535 Dead
June 5th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Dethklok is actually a real meldoic death metal band. Both a real and fictional death metal band. Brain drill is phucking brutal. Hail death metal!
536 FECES_cranium
June 8th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
what about a little Band from Sweden?….IN FLAMES!
537 michael
June 17th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
have you ever heard the band fall of a season one of the most bad ass bands ever
538 anonymous
June 25th, 2010 at 10:13 am
1.death
2.cannibal corpse
3.deicide
4.morbid angel
5.children of bodom
6.dying fetus
7.carcass
8.in flames
9.behemoth
10.arch enemy
539 deed
June 27th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
dethklok is a real band, and theyre touring right now for theyre second.
540 Satanic Gnosticism
July 2nd, 2010 at 5:20 am
A band you all need to take some time for.
Ptahil
In fact check out this site http://www.strongholdrecords.net/KULT.html
541 Satanic Gnosticism
July 2nd, 2010 at 5:23 am
"The atmosphere created by the Satanists behind Ptahil is unparalleled to any other Black Metal release we have heard in years."
- infernalmasquerade.com-
542 Gary
July 6th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Total fail
543 dffdfd
July 12th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Almost none of them where death metal bands, shitty list.
544 Kal
July 15th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Cool ! a list about death Metal !!!!!
whatever the bands you chose, whatever we agree or not, you made a killer description of that music "No other music is as ferocious, raw, aggressive, ridiculous, sometimes beautiful, and always sure to put a smile on your face.".
Kal, a death metal (and of course listverse) fan from France.
545 FECES_cranium
July 24th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
What about Lamb of god?? and I'm pretty sure Dethklok is a real life band too.
546 Jasko
July 25th, 2010 at 2:43 am
cradle of filth has nothing with death metal they are black metal, and I think that Sepultura need to be at least at 3rd place