Christmas Competition: 2nd Place. Congratulations to Samehrocks for this great (albeit macabre) list – he has won the second prize of a 1GB Apple iPod shuffle valued at $79!
10. Romas Kalanta
Romas Kalanta (February 22, 1953 – May 14, 1972) is considered a national hero of Lithuania, and is the subject of several books. Romas Kalanta set himself on fire in a public place in the Lithuanian city of Kaunas on May 14, 1972, in protest of the oppression of the Lithuanian language, culture and people by the government of the Soviet Union. At the time it was very difficult to tell the western world about this oppression, as the Soviet government made foreign communications nearly impossible.
Up until the time of this event, foreigners were only able to see the “bright” side of the Lithuanian situation—the side that the government wanted them to see. Kalanta’s suicide was seen by many people, including journalists who visited the Soviet Union. The Soviet government tried to cover up the event, but its story spread as legend by word of mouth. This caused student unrest in Lithuania, especially in Kaunas.
Kalanta used fuel to set himself alight. Due to the need for secrecy at the time, details of the event are disputed. The common belief is that he and a few of his classmates formed a patriot group, and that they held a lottery to determine which of them would have to carry out the mission.
9. Malachi Ritscher
Malachi Ritscher (Mark David Ritscher; January 13, 1954 – November 3, 2006) was a musician, recording engineer, and anti-war protester.
Ritscher came into the national spotlight after committing self-immolation on the side of the Kennedy Expressway near downtown Chicago during the morning rush hour of Friday November 3, 2006, as a protest against the Iraq war. In a suicide letter published on his website, he described at length his political convictions as to the Iraq War and his choice to take his own life, suggesting at one point, “if I am required to pay for your barbaric war, I choose not to live in your world.”
Ritscher’s suicide is one of only nine reported incidents of self-immolation performed as an act of protest in American history.
8. Kostas Georgakis
Georgakis was a Greek student at the University of Genoa and a member of the Center Union party, since 1968. In July 1970, he anonymously released an interview to a newspaper, in which he revealed the military junta’s intelligence infiltration of the Greek students’ movements in Italy. Georgakis’ identity was rapidly discovered and, fearing for his family in Greece, he decided that he had to make an act to raise awareness of Western public opinion on the condition of his country. In the early hours of 19 September, 1970, Georgakis set himself ablaze in Matteotti square, in Genoa, to protest against the dictatorial regime of Georgios Papadopoulos.
7. Jan Palach
The Soviet-led invasion of Czechoslovakia in August 1968, was designed to crush the liberalising reforms of Alexander Dubček’s government during the Prague Spring. Palach died after setting himself on fire in Wenceslas Square in Prague, Czechoslovakia, on 16 January, 1969, in protest.
The funeral of Palach turned into a major protest against the occupation, and a month later (on February 25, 1969) another student, Jan Zajíc, burned himself to death in the same place, followed in April of the same year by Evžen Plocek in Jihlava.
6. Norman Morrison
Norman Morrison (December 29, 1933 – November 2, 1965), born in Erie, Pennsylvania, was a Baltimore Quaker best known for committing suicide at age 31 in an act of self-immolation to protest United States involvement in the Vietnam War.
On November 2, 1965, Morrison doused himself in kerosene and set himself on fire below Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara’s Pentagon office. Morrison took his daughter, Emily, then one year old, to the Pentagon, and either set her down or handed her off to someone in the crowd before setting himself ablaze. Morrison’s reasons for taking Emily and then sparing her are not entirely known.
5. Ryszard Siwiec
Ryszard Siwiec (1909—September 12, 1968) was a Polish accountant, teacher and former Home Army soldier who was the first person to set himself on fire in protest against the Soviet-led invasion of Czechoslovakia. He set himself ablaze in Warsaw during a national harvest festival on September 8, 1968, at the Dziesięciolecia Stadium, and died in hospital four days later. His act was witnessed by nearly 100,000 spectators, including the national leadership and foreign diplomats who had been invited to the festival, intended as a vast propaganda spectacle. A father of five from Przemyśl, Siwiec planned his self-immolation in advance, leaving written and tape-recorded statements explaining his revulsion at both the Warsaw Pact invasion and communist Poland’s participation in it. His death foreshadowed the famous self-immolation of Jan Palach in Prague four months later. It has not been revealed that Palach knew about Siwiec’s act of protest, as the Polish communist authorities vigorously suppressed any information about it, stating only that Siwiec was “suffering from mental illness”. Although his act was captured by a motion picture camera, newsreels of the festival omitted any mention of the incident. Although a number of Czechs attended the festival, Siwiec’s death became widely known in Czechoslovakia only after the news of it was broadcast on Radio Free Europe, two months after Palach’s death.
4. Emily Wilding Davison
Emily Wilding Davison (1872 – June 8, 1913) was an activist for women’s suffrage in the United Kingdom. It is thought that she committed suicide by throwing herself under King George V’s horse at the Epsom Derby.
Davison was born in Blackheath, London, and had a university education, having studied first at Royal Holloway College in London. She later studied English Language and Literature at St Hugh’s College, Oxford, and obtained first-class honours in her final exams, though women were not, at that time, admitted to degrees at Oxford. She joined the Women’s Social and Political Union (WSPU) in 1906, and immediately involved herself in their more militant activities. She was arrested and imprisoned for various offences, including a violent attack on a man she mistook for the Chancellor of the Exchequer, David Lloyd George. She went on hunger strike and was force-fed in Holloway prison, where she threw herself down an iron staircase as a protest. She landed on wire netting 30 feet below, which saved her, however she suffered some severe spinal damage.
On July 13, the night of the 1911 census, Davison hid in a cupboard in the Palace of Westminster overnight so that on the census form she could legitimately give her place of residence that night as the “House of Commons”. Tony Benn, MP, once unofficially placed a plaque there to commemorate the event.
Davison’s purpose in attending the Derby of June 4, 1913, is unclear. Much has been made of the fact that she purchased a return rail ticket, suggesting that suicide was not, on this occasion, her initial intention. Film of the incident shows her stepping out in front of the horse, Anmer, as it rounded Tattenham Corner, with Davison carrying the banner of the WSPU. But instead of stopping, Anmer trampled her, knocking her unconscious. Eyewitnesses at the time were divided as to her motivation, with many believing that she had simply intended to cross the track, believing that all horses had passed; while others reported that she had attempted to pull down the King’s horse. She died 4 days later in Epsom Cottage Hospital, due to a fractured skull caused by the incident. Herbert Jones, the jockey who was riding the horse, suffered a mild concussion in the incident, the horse survived but with bruised shins.
Davison is buried in the church yard of St. Mary the Virgin, Morpeth, Northumberland. The funeral attracted a large crowd. Her gravestone bears the WSPU slogan, “Deeds not words”. She had two funerals, one in London and one in her home town.
3. Christine Chubbuck
On the morning of July 15, 1974, Chubbuck confused co-workers by claiming that she had to read a newscast to open her program, Suncoast Digest, something she had never done before. That morning’s talk show guest waited across the studio while she sat at the news anchor’s desk. Her news copy actually contained a speculative report of her impending suicide, wherein she conjectured she would be declared dead eleven hours later. She placed a .38 revolver in her bag of puppets and put it beneath her desk.
During the first eight minutes of her program, Chubbuck covered three national news stories and then a local restaurant shooting from the day before. The restaurant was the Beef and Bottle Restaurant at the Sarasota-Bradenton Airport on U.S. 41. The film reel of the restaurant shooting had jammed and wouldn’t run, so Christine shrugged it off and said:
“In keeping with Channel 40′s policy of bringing you the latest in blood and guts, and in living color, you are going to see another first: an attempted suicide.”
She drew out the revolver and shot herself behind her right ear. Christine fell forward violently and the technical director faded slowly to black. Camerawoman Jean Reed later recalled that she thought it had been an elaborate prank, and it wasn’t until she saw Chubbuck’s twitching body that she realized it was genuine.
The station quickly ran a standard Public Service tape, and then a movie. Some television viewers had phoned 9-1-1, while others phoned the station to inquire if the shooting was faked.
Chubbuck was taken to Sarasota Memorial Hospital and was pronounced dead 14 hours later. Upon receiving the news, a WXLT staffer released the information to other stations using Chubbuck’s copy, as she left it for just that purpose.
2. Budd Dwyer
On January 22, 1987, the day before his sentencing, Dwyer called a press conference to “provide an update on the situation.” Many expected Dwyer to announce his resignation from office. At the conference, an agitated and nervous Dwyer once again professed his innocence, and declared that he would not resign as state treasurer. Those attending would hear his final words:
“I face a maximum sentence of 55 years in prison and a $300,000 fine for being innocent. Judge Muir has already told the press that he, “felt invigorated” when we were found guilty, and that he plans to imprison me as a deterrent to other public officials. But it wouldn’t be a deterrent because every public official who knows me knows that I am innocent; it wouldn’t be a legitimate punishment because I’ve done nothing wrong.” Then he proceeded “The guilty verdict has strengthened that resolve. But as we’ve discussed our plans to expose the warts of our legal system, people have said: “Why bother?” “No one cares.” “You’ll look foolish.” “60 Minutes, 20/20, the American Civil Liberties Union, Jack Anderson and others have been publicizing cases like yours for years, and it doesn’t bother anyone.”
At this point, Dwyer stopped with his prepared text and called to three of his staffers, giving each an envelope. It was later discovered that one contained a suicide note to his wife. The second was an organ donor card and other related materials. The third was a letter to the newly-inaugurated governor, Robert P. Casey.
After handing out the envelopes, Dwyer opened a manila envelope and withdrew a .357 Magnum revolver, advising those in the crowd, “Please leave the room if this will offend you.” Those in attendance cried out to Dwyer, pleading with him to put the gun down (“Budd, don’t!” was heard on television.) Some tried to approach him. “Stay away, this thing will hurt someone,” he warned. Amid the cry of “Budd, Budd, Budd!” Dwyer put the gun barrel into his mouth and pulled the trigger. He collapsed against a wall in a sitting position, blood pouring from his nose, all in front of five television news cameras. Dwyer was declared dead at the scene at 11:31 a.m. CDT.
1. Thich Quang Duc
On June 11th, 1963, Thích Quảng Đức, a Vietnamese Buddhist monk, sat down in the middle of a busy intersection in Saigon, covered himself in gasoline, ignited a match and set himself on fire. Đức burned to death in a matter of minutes, and he was immortalized in a famous photograph taken by a reporter who was in Vietnam to photograph the war. All those who saw this spectacle were taken by the fact that Duc did not make a sound while burning to death. Đức was protesting President Ngô Đình Diệm’s administration for oppressing the Buddhist religion.






























would have liked to see yukio mishima on here! Great list nonetheless
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great list! good job
I think I heard that Thich Quang Duc’s heart didn’t burn. Back in high school. Is that just an urban legend?
Wow, fantastic list! Great job Samehrocks!
we watched a video on women’s suffrage in my history class and it showed film footage of that lady “jumping” in front of the horse.
my teacher re-played like ten times, and this may sound cruel and heartless but it was actually kind of funny a couple times through.
great list :] i remember some man jumped from the bus station near me earlier this year, infront of hundreds. the video was on youtube for a while…
Fascinating list, even if it isn’t terribly Christmas-friendly
I’d heard of a few of them (the woman who threw herself under the horse, the reporter who shot herself on television, and the monk who is #1). But there are certainly a lot of immolations aren’t there? I didn’t realize it was such a popular form of protest. I suppose because it is so horrifying, the people doing it know it will make quite an impression.
Most are self Immolation, A little variety would have made it better.
I seen the Budd Dwyer one,pretty grusome, blood was just pouring out of his nose as if it was a faucet,poor guy.I knew this one dude that put himself in front of a freight train here in AZ, it spread him one mile across the tracks,they had identified him because one of his hands remained intact and he had a tattoo on it.
I was really happy while going through the Santa list and now Im a lil sad while going through this one… =(
Good list but it makes me a bit sad..
Interesting topic. Great research. Excellent list!
I would have put good ol bud first, but eh who am i to say
I was wondering whether I would see Thich Quang Duc on this list. That picture made one of the greatest ablbum covers ever.
i saw the Budd Dwyer suicide when i was 11, it was the first time i saw a human die and will never forget that
The picture of Thich Quang Duc is used as the front cover of Rage Against The Machines first album. I always wonderd if it was real, now I know.
A great list, if a little depressing
What was Budd on trial for? I hadn’t heard of a lot of these, even the one in 2006. Good list.
I wonder if you JOE ROSSEN are under a different computer name than the one that I knew you as when you showed Dwyer video to me in NM. It was eplained in the same way before I watched it as “blood pouring from his nose like a faucet”
Nightmares resulted for sometime..Daymares too. flashing slides in my mind of this pathetic looser bumbling with his self as the woman are screaming when the idiot in the room raises his hands, telling everybody to be calm, while the cameraman zooms in on the resulting fact.
To Mowi, I was 17! I cant image what difference that has made to you having seen that at 11.
Living in a battle zone is all together on its own or extreme poverty stricken areas. But public places with public forums or demonstrations or the facade of TV reporting.
Life’s full of ups and downs MAV. What was that story by Richard Pryor? Neighbor’s dog says to him, “Life’s a *****, aint it Rich? One day your here -the next day your gone…Well dont linger on it too long.. That sh*t will get to yah…..and you know I’m going to be chasing you tomarrow”
What is it about public self immolation? I cant imagine doing it like that to myself alone. There is an aspect to suicide which has to do with being payed attention to. And setting yourself on fire for a cause and a death wish is attention getting. I dont mean teenage temper, but perhaps it comes from a similliar source or place?
Great list, really put me in the Christmas spirit
Holy crap, I just watched the vid on youtube of Budd Dwyer. OMFG. I almost cried. That is horrible. Good list though.
there is an interesting documentary out called “the bridge” about the draw of the golden gate bridge to people contemplating suicide. some film-makers put a camera on the bridge for a full year during daylight hours and caught, if i remember correctly, over 20 deaths on camera.
what an incredible misuse of life these people demonstrate. welcome to one of the most selfish things humanity has ever dreamed up. merry christmas, right?
Yeah or how about people with serious mental issues that didn’t get the necessary medical and psychiatric help needed?
There was more to these deaths than protests, these people needed help and the fact that they dissuaded from the fact that they just gave up on themselves for mental reasons and instead pointed it in the direction of something they felt strongly for is one of the most unselfish things I’ve ever seen.
So please, shut the ***** up if you have no clue what you are talking about, please.
Seymour: from somewhere I heard that in many cremations, the heart takes the longest to burn because it is the densest tissue in the body, so it needn’t be an urban legend that Thich Quang Duc’s didn’t. I suppose dying for a cause when your principles forbid you to be a soldier leaves acts like these protest immolations as the best answer. Certainly courageous: these are not suicides in the usual sense (except for Ms. Chubbuck, whose motives remain unclear). In a strange way, they are acts of supreme humility. I wonder if there will ever be a world in which no one feels compelled to such measures? Something to hope for as the New Year draws on?
Yum, suicide! Can I open another gift, Mom?
I do recall that DiscHuker, A recent study about New York tourists recently came out that stated that there was a small percentage which visited the city in order to commit suicide in public, unltimately, at/ or from, a NY landmark.
ah…..and Ive only had 4 beers, JFrater.
DiskHuker, just took a second to find:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/11/01/2007-11-01_some_tourists_choose_city_landmarks_for_-1.html
next: Top Ten Suicide Landmarks
martin: supreme humility? please explain your reasoning.
Not long ago, I have a very high regard in this so called “supreme humility”, but after learning about those Kamikaze pilots and suicide bomber, I think I lost my appetite to this kind of act.
The only thing I admire with the people in this list is that they don’t take other people’s life. What a waste of true conviction.
Interesting list. Not really what you want to read on Christmas, however….
Numbers 10, 7, 5, and 1 are really the only ones where I think public suicide served a higher purpose. The others seem way to extreme and I get the feeling that the people WANTED to be martyrs. In my opinion, someone who desires to be a martyr usually doesn’t deserve the title. In numbers 10, 7, and 5 I don’t think there was a better way for those people to get their message to the rest of the world. What choices did they have? Fight and die in obscurity against their oppressors, or take their own life in a fashion that would get the attention of the rest of the world. An the conviction of number one just gives me goosebumps.
Number 9 is just plain pathetic if you ask me. The rest of the world was already aware with the problems behind the war, and there were almost no backing from outside countries. He says he doesn’t want to pay for the war? Mother*****er there is an entire planet out there, pack your ***** up and move. His decision to kill himself over such a stupid reason is like throwing a twig on a bonfire, it isn’t going to do *****. He WANTED to be a martyr and he WANTED to go down in the history books. Seems like pretty selfish reasons to me and I hope he went through excrutiating pain before he finally died, seems like a fitting punishment for wasting a life.
Anyways, great list!
Hi. Long-time reader, first-time commenter. I’m Andie, and this list made my day.
–Andrea Carlena Beauman.
Great list, however I think this should have been included… A governor of a major U.S. territory shooting himself in the head during rush-hour traffic in 1990, “slightly” more notable than some of these included. Look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Bordallo
Dischuker:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_(documentary_film)
sdggrant: you are right about number 9. Seems like he jusitified it in his head by blaming the war.
Hi guys, I’m glad you liked the list, thanks dvhann, Jess, nelia, angelina, Kristina, sdggrant and Andrea Carlena Beauman whom my list was provokive enough to make her write her first comment ever on a list
though she mentioned she’s a Long-time reader!
I know the list is sad, and it’s not the right time to publish it… but it’s always good to learn new things anywhere anytime, the great thing about this site is that it makes me do a lot of search and get more knowledge with every brand new list!
Kevin Leonard: I’ve considered Yukio Mishima and red his story, but the reason I didn’t add him to the List is that he did not do that in a public place, he did not kill himself, someone did that for him, though it still SUICIDE! (Japanese ritual suicide)
From Wikipedia:
“He finished his planned speech after a few minutes, returned in to the commandant’s office and committed seppuku. The customary kaishakunin duty at the end of this ritual had been assigned to Tatenokai member Masakatsu Morita, but Morita was unable to properly perform the task: after several attempts, he allowed another Tatenokai member, Hiroyasu Koga, to behead him.”
Henry: I kept that in mind, but most of people who commit suicide in public do that by self-immolation using one of the most painful ways to die (http://health.howstuffworks.com/worst-way-to-die.htm) so there’s no much space for variety, jiveterky’s addition was good though
There are so many Vietnamese Buddhist monks who committed self-immolation who were suffering from oppression, 9 Americans committed self-immolation to protest against the wars (the most recent one is Malachi Ritscher) and many others from Eastern Europe who were suffering from the soviet government oppression but these oppressive governments used to cover up these incidents!
On the other hand, not all the people who commit suicide in public are necessarily have a cause, some of the people who committed suicide in public didn’t have a cause but probably they were mentally ill or suffering from severe oppression!
Man oh man….most of these people were just morons!! And choosing to burn yourself to death??? How hideous….really, I suppose if one is callous, it is good to have these people removed from humanity…..and at least they did’t kill a bunch of other people in the process…so one has to give them credit for that at least!
Wow. What a thought invoking list. Amazing job samhrocks, really, but I have to say I'm a little disgusted with some of the comments, particularly the ones who called these people morons or useless, or saying that we're better off without them. Suicide is not the answer, but to be so callous as to say good riddance to the loss of a life … well, makes me feel rather sad this Christmas.
I watched a friend's brother jump off a six-storey school building when I was eleven, not because he was protesting a war, or because he was being repressed. It was because he was emotionally and mentally tormented, thought no one could help him, and felt that ending his life was the only way to end his and his family's misery. I don't find that pathetic. I find it heart-wrenchingly tragic, and I don't think that what he accomplished before he ended his life was useless, either.
Just my two cents. Happy holidays, all.
I like it! I like it a lot. You know exactly what youre tinkalg about, exactly where other people are coming from on this issue. Im glad that I had the fortune to stumble across your blog. Its definitely an important issue that not enough people are tinkalg about and Im glad that I got the chance to see all the angles.
Some people say that the suicide of Budd Dwyer was the inspiration behind Filter’s song “Hey Man, Nice Shot”
And God Bless us, Everyone.
samhrocks; Great List, and although on first glance not very christmassy; most of these (not including the nut jobs) are statements of belief…i remember #1 from a vietnam documementary as a young kid, and wondering even then what it would be like to believe in ANYTHING that much…
Merry Christmas Everybody
thats right NestorV,
Mom424:it’s always ddangerous to believe in ANYTHING that much…
tianemen square?
Aww, and I thought all of them were going to be self immolation. Oh well, better luck next year.
sam: are you saying that there is nothing of such great value that you would be unwilling to lay down your life for?
Pretty impressive!
DiscHuker: This is a good point! I thought a lot about that, and ,here, I’ll try to speak up my mind a little bit!
Sometimes people believe so much in things to the degree that they can die for ‘em. all humans are mortal anyway, so what can make ‘em choose to take a shortcut? Why they give up such a precious thing?
what makes 909 people take their own lives in Jonestown on November 18, 1978? what for? for Jim Jones? for Jonestown? for the good of humanity? do you think they’ve changed the world? what these people would do if they’ve been brought back to life and gone through the same circumstances?
what makes suicide bombers blow themselves up trying to kill as many innocent people as they can? their country, their religion? do they think they’re sacrificing themselves for greater value?
do you think that there was more positive way the Vietnamese Buddhist monks (who were suffering from oppression and discrimination) could go instead of self-immolation and help their cause? do you think they actually had a life?
Earnest Hemingway once wrote, ‘The world is a fine place; and worth fighting for’, and he ended up shooting himself in the head!
Back to your question, I think there’s no such a thing that a person should lay down his own life for, by committing suicide! (self-sacrificing for the family and the loved ones is another issue)
Life is priceless, beautiful and although sometimes it’s full of misery, pain, loneliness, suffering and unhappiness, we go on hoping that the day we’ll be happier would come! Life’s short and beautiful so why not try harder to live it and enjoy it?
great list
Life is priceless to be wasted just hoping for a change.
History don’t even prove that self immolation can directly change or sway politics,tradition or much less, religion. Self immolation is just a news the next days and statistic for the succeeding years. The thruth is that this list is a part of that Statistic. Have we seen changes to justify their actions?
It’s a pity all the self-immolators couldn’t have gone and found someone in power who was actually doing some big-time damage and then fry both their stupid asses. Otherwise it’s all ‘look at me! Me me me me me and my higher calling! The world is so terrible I will become a martyr! Yeah, well take a couple of bad guys with you, I say, otherwise don’t bother. Show-off.
Makes sense to me, I like that.
Slammerworm: you are right in that these people have done such an awful thing to themselves and their actions did nothing to support their causes. what a waste of life!
As DiscHuker mentioned, there is an interesting documentary called The Bridge which I have seen. Cameras were set up 24/7 for an entire year at different angles looking at the San Francisco Bridge. There were about 24 suicides that year, all but one were captured on film (not all of them in the documentary). The families of the victims were interviewed and one man who lived because he changed his mind last second (he re-oriented his body so he went feet first) was also interviewed.
I actually didn’t watch all of it, it was hard for me to watch and I pretty much just walked in and out of the room while it was on (my friends watched it).
Of course it is a very controversial film, but the crew behind the cameras saved quite a few people that year after watching people who looked suspicious and then called the bridge’s suicide hotline. Also Eric Steele, the creator of the documentary, was concerned about the barriers of the bridge and actually made the film to raise awareness about how easy it is to fall/jump off and he wanted higher barriers. And the people who commited suicides did not know cameras were there so they didn’t do it just to be in this film or anything. (The filming for the documentary was highly secretive, no one knew about it until it came out).
Anyway if you guys are interested in this list you’d be interested in the film I’m sure.
Cheers,
Jackie
In 2005 Paul Hester from the band Crowded House took his own life by hanging himself from the local playground set in Elsternwick, Melbourne, Australia on a friday night.
He always had a really quirky sense of humour, but i remember thinking at the time that the local playground was just a bit too macabre.
What was spooky about it was that months earlier he had been on a television music quiz show. They replayed it a few weeks ago and he looked like he was alright. He had a history of mood swings.
Did Hester actually commit suicide in public or did he do it in a then-deserted playground so his corpse would be found there later? (Sorry, but there’s a nasty part of me which wants to know if he was dressed as a Wiggle…)
only problem i have with tihs is that you called Buddhism a religion. although most ppl think it is, there is no “god” or such a figure in buddhism, its a way of life not a religion
Thich Quang Duc protested against united states ocupation
aldrei: FALSE!
Doesn’t matter if he had a beef about sunspots, he’s a stain on the ground now.
The guy, in number 8(Kostas Georgakis) was from Corfu, Greece. I saw a statue of him there..
I don’t think there’s a point to suicide for a cause. If you kill yourself hoping something will change as a result, your hands are tied and there’s a small chance that people will act differently for one person. But, if you’re alive and able to get your word across verbally, and with more people for support, there’s a much bigger chance you’ll make a difference. After suicide, the dead are just sunk costs, and if any of you have taken economics, you must ignore sunk costs when making a decision because they can’t be changed.
I agree and disagree with all your points guys…the thing is, if it were pointless or didn’t acheive it’s intended goal, then why are we still talking about it?
I admit, there is no cause that I hold so close that I would die for. Then again, I’ve been lucky and live in a society and a time where there isn’t much injustice to rage against-wait that’s not right…there is, we’re just apathetic. I’m including myself in that. I wish it weren’t true, but it is.
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Thich Quang Duc’s heart