The human mind is a wonderful thing. Cognition, the act or process of thinking, enables us to process vast amounts of information quickly. For example, every time your eyes are open, you brain is constantly being bombarded with stimuli. You may be consciously thinking about one specific thing, but you brain is processing thousands of subconscious ideas. Unfortunately, our cognition is not perfect, and there are certain judgment errors that we are prone to making, known in the field of psychology as cognitive biases. They happen to everybody regardless of age, gender, education, intelligence, or other factors. Some of them are well known, others not, but all of them are interesting. I am sure everyone will find that one has happened to them, (I myself have been prone to several) and now will recognize when they are making an error in the future.
The Gambler’s fallacy is the tendency to think that future probabilities are altered by past events, when in reality, they are not. Certain probabilities, such as getting a heads when you flip a (fair) coin, are always the same. The probability of getting a heads is 50%, it does not matter if you’ve gotten tails the last 10 flips. Thinking that the probabilities have changed is a common bias, especially when gambling. For example, I am playing roulette. The last four spins have landed on black, it has to be red this time right? Wrong! The probability of landing on red is still 47.37% (18 red spots divided by 38 total spots). This may sound obvious, but this bias has caused many a gambler to lose money thinking the probabilities have changed.
Reactivity is the tendency of people to act or appear differently when they know that they are being observed. In the 1920s, Hawthorne Works (a manufacturing facility) commissioned a study to see if different levels of light influenced worker productivity. What they found was incredible, changing the light caused productivity to soar! Unfortunately, when the study was finished, productivity levels decreased to their regular levels. This was because the change in productivity was not due to the light levels, but to the workers being watched. This demonstrated a form of reactivity; when individuals know they are being watched, they are motivated to change their behavior, generally to make themselves look better. Reactivity is a serious problem in research, and has to be controlled in blind experiments (“Blind” is when individuals involved in a research study are purposely withheld information so as not to influence the outcomes).
Pareidolia is when random images or sounds are perceived as significant. Seeing clouds in the shapes of dinosaurs, Jesus on a hot pocket, or hearing messages when a record is played backward are common examples of pareidolia. The common element is that the stimulus is neutral, it does not have intentional meaning; the meaning is in the viewer’s perception.
Interesting Fact: the Rorschach Inkblot test was developed to use pareidolia to tap into people’s mental states. Testees are shown images of ambiguous pictures, and asked to describe what they see. Responses are analyzed to discover the testee’s hidden thoughts.
Self-fulfilling prophecy is engaging in behaviors that obtain results that confirm existing attitudes. A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that causes itself to become true. For example, I believe that I am going to do poorly in school, so I decrease the effort I put into my assignments and studying, and I end up doing poorly, just as I thought. Another common example is relationships; I think my relationship with my significant other is going to fail, so I start acting differently, pulling away emotionally. Because of my actions, I actually cause the relationship to fail. This is a powerful tool used by “psychics” – they implant an idea in your mind, and you eventually make it happen because you think it will.
Interesting Fact: Economic Recessions are self-fulfilling prophecies. Because a recession is 2 quarters of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) decline, you cannot know you are in a recession until you are at least 6 months into one. Unfortunately, at the first sign of decreasing GDP, the media reports a possible recession, people panic and start a chain of events that actually cause a recession.
The Halo effect is the tendency for an individual’s positive or negative trait to “spill over” to other areas of their personality in others’ perceptions of them. This bias happens a lot in employee performance appraisals. For example: my employee, Biff, has been late to work the past three days; I notice this and conclude that Biff is lazy and does not care about his job. There are many possible reasons why Biff was late, perhaps his car broke down, his babysitter did not show up, or there has been bad weather. The problem is, because of one negative aspect that may be out of Biff’s control, I assume that he is a bad worker.
Interesting Fact: The Physical Attractiveness Stereotype is when people assume that attractive individuals possess other socially desirable qualities, such as happiness, success and intelligence. This becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when attractive people are given privileged treatment such as better job opportunities and higher salaries.
Herd mentality is the tendency to adopt the opinions and follow the behaviors of the majority to feel safer and to avoid conflict. Also known as “Mob Mentality,” this is, at its most common form, peer pressure. Herd mentality explains why fads get so popular. Clothes, cars, hobbies, styles, all it takes is a group of people who think something is cool, and it catches on.
Interesting Fact: things that are unattractive, or that would never seem cool or popular now have had huge followings due to herd mentality. Examples include parachute pants, pet rocks, mullets, cone bras, tie-dye, sea monkeys, and the 1980s (by the way, that is an ’80s guy in the picture above).
Reactance is the urge to do the opposite of what someone wants you to do out of a need to resist a perceived attempt to constrain your freedom of choice. This is common with rebellious teenagers, but any attempt to resist authority due to perceived threats to freedom and/or choice is reactance. The individual may not have a need to do the specific behavior, however the fact that they cannot do it makes them want to.
Interesting Fact: “reverse psychology” is an attempt to influence people using reactance. Tell someone (particularly children) to do the opposite of what you really want, and they will rebel and actually end up doing what you want.
Hyperbolic discounting is the tendency for people to prefer a smaller, immediate payoff over a larger, delayed payoff. Much research has been done on decision-making, and many factors contribute to the individual decision making process. Interestingly, delay time is a big factor in choosing an alternative. Put simply, most people would choose to get 20 dollars today instead of getting 100 dollars one year from today. Normally it makes sense to choose a greater amount of money immediately than less in the future, as the value of a dollar is worth more today than it is tomorrow. Assume that the interest rate is 9%, at this interest rate, a rational person would be indifferent to taking $91.74 now, or $100 a year from now. However, it is interesting how much less we are willing to take immediately rather than wait, would you rather have $100 a year from now, or $50 immediately? How about $40 immediately? Where do you draw the line?
Escalation of commitment is the tendency for people to continue to support previously unsuccessful endeavors. With all the decisions people have to make, it is unavoidable that some will be unsuccessful. Of course, the logical thing to do in these instances is to change that decision or try to reverse it. However, sometimes individuals feel compelled not only to stick with their decision, but also to further invest in that decision because they have sunk costs. For example, say you use half of your life savings to start a business. After 6 months, it is evident that the business is going to be unsuccessful. The logical thing to do would be to “cut your losses” and drop the business. However, due to the sunk costs of your life savings, you feel committed to the business and invest even more money into the project hoping that the additional cash will turn the business around.
The Placebo effect is when an ineffectual substance that is believed to have healing properties produces the desired effect. Especially common with medications, the placebo effect has been observed when individuals given a sugar pill for a real ailment report improvement. Placebos are still a scientific mystery. It is theorized that placebos cause an “Expectancy Effect”, (In cases of uncertainty, expectation is what is most likely to happen) individuals expect the pills to cure their ailments, so they feel cured. However, this does not explain how the ineffectual pills actually cause a reduction in symptoms.
Interesting Fact: The term “Placebo” is used when the outcomes are considered favorable, when the outcomes are negative or harmful; the term is “Nocebo”


























1 yacketyyack
January 7th, 2010 at 1:32 am
nice list………..
2 lala
January 7th, 2010 at 1:34 am
Hyperbolic discounting is interesting… And Escalation of commitment is what keeps most of the people employed all around the world… isn’t it?
Nice list.
3 apepper
January 7th, 2010 at 1:36 am
Very interesting; the gambler’s fallacy about “being on a roll” keeps the casinos in business.
4 mrcortes
January 7th, 2010 at 1:39 am
I do Number 10 all the time, Gambler’s Fallacy *sigh*
5 Gabtinha
January 7th, 2010 at 1:40 am
Really nice list.
6 Jediknight
January 7th, 2010 at 1:45 am
Niiice
7 Grasshopperking
January 7th, 2010 at 2:08 am
This was so cool
8 sgcvelasco
January 7th, 2010 at 2:14 am
Thank you so much Nikki!
Not a lot of us know that we are actually doing these things or have these behaviors.
It’s eye opening information and is much appreciated.
Great job putting this together! Kudos to you!
9 Xeygwyn
January 7th, 2010 at 2:22 am
Sea-monkeys are amazing. Reminds me I need to feed mine.
10 M
January 7th, 2010 at 2:23 am
Great idea for a list!
11 Mr Scumbag
January 7th, 2010 at 2:25 am
I really liked this list.
Things like this should be taught in schools everywhere as part of a semi-intensive critical thinking curriculum.
Sure schools do arguably “well enough” in many areas, but they lack (in many ways) adequate tuition in critical thinking and basic instruction in how to avoid being taken advantage of.
In today’s world these skills are becoming more and more important with the many scams, omissions, half truths, logical fallacies etc perpetrated by the media, advertising, hoaxers, scammers, and dare I say it religious ideologists such as the Intelligent Design crowd.
12 Moloch1123
January 7th, 2010 at 2:31 am
Heh, never heard of a “nocebo” before… I just learned something.
13 Moloch1123
January 7th, 2010 at 2:33 am
@Mr Scumbag (11): Didn’t you know? The government doesn’t want you to be able to think for yourself.
14 Mr Scumbag
January 7th, 2010 at 2:35 am
To a small degree you’re probably right!
15 gav
January 7th, 2010 at 2:44 am
Many state lotteries make a lot of money due to hyperbolic discounting; give away 50% to get half of your winnings immediately? One could apply this to just about every aspect of life.
16 Kibey
January 7th, 2010 at 2:48 am
One of the best lists I’ve read in a long time. Well done.
17 Reallyreallyreallyshortguy
January 7th, 2010 at 2:57 am
Interesting list!
Could be very useful at the poker table…
Has there been a top 10 Disney Movies list?
18 Reallyreallyreallyshortguy
January 7th, 2010 at 3:00 am
Never mind, I found the Disney list!
http://listverse.com/2009/06/21/top-10-animated-disney-films/
19 sgcvelasco
January 7th, 2010 at 3:01 am
@Reallyreallyreallyshortguy (17): Not sure if this is the list you’re looking for since Disney isn’t just into animated films anymore. but I just though I’d pitch in
http://listverse.com/2009/06/21/top-10-animated-disney-films/
20 ldux
January 7th, 2010 at 3:05 am
“(by the way, that is an ’80s guy in the picture above)”
What ’80s people may look like
youtube.com/watch?v=9JiCzXPqDis
21 gabyvhenteciete
January 7th, 2010 at 3:07 am
I really liked this list.
I have read about the “Escalation of Commitment” before and it has definitely helped me keep things in its proper perspective. Always helps me think whether I’m being persistent or just being stubborn.
22 ldux
January 7th, 2010 at 3:07 am
youtube.com/watch?v=PeGTJOFSIgU
23 DC
January 7th, 2010 at 3:12 am
This is really interesting, especially as I’m currently learning about a lot of this in psychology! We were shown some of the ink blots to look at and a lot of people saw skulls in them. Also I think most people should know number 10 if they’ve ever lesrnt probability in maths.
24 macph
January 7th, 2010 at 3:17 am
nice list.. learned something new today.. -)
25 Kibey
January 7th, 2010 at 3:27 am
If you want to study “Escalation of Commitment” Check out http://www.steorn.com/forum/
26 ag
January 7th, 2010 at 3:28 am
good list
27 Carlos
January 7th, 2010 at 3:30 am
Great list. And kind of ironic in that this kind of stuff explains pretty nicely how there can be another list on this very site about ghosts – that people actually take seriously!
28 chaos1111
January 7th, 2010 at 3:40 am
Really interesting. loved it.
29 Freud
January 7th, 2010 at 3:41 am
To assholes who are going to submit another list, take note. THIS IS HOW YOU DO A FUCKING LIST. One that is appeal to EVERYONE!! Not just to one type of audience. (sports, old movies and series I am looking at you).
30 tremblingfingers
January 7th, 2010 at 3:46 am
I love this list! Ima tweet it so that superstitious people can get some idea!
Thanks Nikki!
31 tremblingfingers
January 7th, 2010 at 3:47 am
@Freud (26):
agreed!
32 KK
January 7th, 2010 at 3:53 am
I have been a daily visitor of this site for more than a year. This is the first time I am commenting.
This is one of the best lists I have read on this site. Most of the things are known, but to put them so effectively in the form of a list is commendable.
Good job by the author of the list. The owner of the site is doing great work actually.
33 DogBitez
January 7th, 2010 at 4:01 am
Your Gamblers Fallacy is a bit simplistic. It’s actually quite a conundrum. While it’s true that each and every flip of a coin has a 50/50 chance of landing heads or tails (all things being equal)… there’s a separate, and equally true, probability that says you are highly unlikely to flip a coin and get heads 100 times in a row. The two probabilities are at odds, and both are very much true. I love it.
34 JUNQUEMAN
January 7th, 2010 at 4:02 am
I’m betting that there will be many more comments after this one. Some will be positive–some will be negative. Lets see if I’m right.
35 Charlaine
January 7th, 2010 at 4:05 am
Very nice list!!
Thumbs up for you!!
36 lrigD
January 7th, 2010 at 4:06 am
Great list, I really enjoyed it! Good way to get through school today…
37 DogBitez
January 7th, 2010 at 4:09 am
JUNQUEMAN: I’m betting that there will be many more comments after this one. Some will be positive–some will be negative. Lets see if I’m right.
Dude. That describes every stream of comments every posted to ListVerse.
38 Molly S
January 7th, 2010 at 4:12 am
Great list!
Though the picture in #2 is a bit editorial, don’t you think?
39 Atreyu3388
January 7th, 2010 at 4:16 am
Great list. It’s crazy how a lot of people’s “dumb mistakes” are, to some extent, out of their control and left more to instinct.
@Freud:While I agree with you that this is a well written list and can be used as a “template.” I think your argument to make lists that appeal to everyone is kind of contradictory. Remember, one man’s garbage is another’s gold.
Nice work again Nikki.
40 astraya
January 7th, 2010 at 4:18 am
Escalation of commitment is when I send Jamie a list and he doesn’t publish it, and I spend even more time and effort writing another list, which he doesn’t publish either.
41 Arsnl
January 7th, 2010 at 4:48 am
@Mr Scumbag (11): ohh so its mr scumbag not mrs cumbag.
@astraya (37): i dont know if escalation of commitment is such a bad thing. The author just suggest that one should do things that are easier to accomplish. I could say well why study and get a degree if you might end up unemployed. Its not so obvious this one. Maybe one day jamie will look at the lists you sent and think ” thats exactly what i needed”. It really isnt an error in human thinking.
@DogBitez (34): well its not such a big conundrum. You impose more restrictions if you want to get it right 100 times. You think the odds are equal but what you really need it to get heads. Another error happens to people that play the lottery. The chances are equal for everybody but that doesnt mean this exact person will win. Just cuz things are equal it doesnt mean it will happen to you
42 Mr Scumbag
January 7th, 2010 at 5:04 am
@Arsnl (41): Affirmative. Was there some confusion?
43 Jediknight
January 7th, 2010 at 5:44 am
I love cookies
44 Kreachure
January 7th, 2010 at 5:52 am
Wow, great list, thank you Nikki!
This is a fascinating subject. I wish people (including myself) were more aware of even a few of these cognitive fallacies on their daily lives…
45 sgcvelasco
January 7th, 2010 at 5:53 am
@Freud (29): Are you okay with lists regarding other countries? It’s not such a general topic unlike this one but I feel (and correct me if I’m wrong) that you’re driving at “new learning” as well instead of cliches’, pop culture or eye candy.
46 oouchan
January 7th, 2010 at 5:59 am
Great list, Nikki!
Where I work, they teach the supervisors and managers about how to spot the Halo Effect in others and in one’s self. Like not looking down on someone for tattoos or piercings when applying for a job. Also things like a cell phone going off during a interview could be seen as negative which in fact it isn’t. The test we had to take….most of us failed because of our own bias thinking.
And isn’t Herd Mentality the same as sheeple?
@Mr Scumbag (11): I agree with you that stuff like this should be taught as a mandatory class at ALL schools. Especially the sheeple one.
47 DeAdMaN
January 7th, 2010 at 6:06 am
I LIKED THESE
48 Freud
January 7th, 2010 at 6:07 am
@sgcvelasco (45): On the contrary I prefer cliches’ , pop culture and eye candy. Which is general. AND DON’T YOU DARE EVEN THINK ABOUT SUBMITTING A LIST THAT WILL FUCKING RUIN MY DAY.
49 deepthinker
January 7th, 2010 at 6:07 am
Neat list. I think many of these aren’t really faults at all… in some cases, they actually come in handy!!
50 timmar68
January 7th, 2010 at 6:25 am
I can relate to reactivity. When someone is watching me do something I get all flustered and make stupid mistakes that I never would have done if I wasn’t being watched.
Beauty school was tough for that very reason. In that field over half of your tests are ones that have to observe your work. I never did well on the ones that they watch you. Once after a test the instructor said she was perplexed because she had seen me do the thing I was being tested on and did well and didn’t do it the way I did it on the test. I told her that I didn’t know I was being watched those times.
Even at my job now my boss knows that if he has to see how I’m doing he knows not to tell me when he’s just walking around and being with the employees vs. walking to around to see how we’re doing our job. I HATE being observed and analyzed.
51 sgcvelasco
January 7th, 2010 at 6:33 am
@Freud (48): I’m confused.
Could you please clarify for me what you meant by your 1st post (29) versus the 2nd one(45).
52 Forsythia
January 7th, 2010 at 6:50 am
“Jesus on a hot pocket” – AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
53 Nemiga
January 7th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Awesome List !
54 Freud
January 7th, 2010 at 7:02 am
@sgcvelasco (51):I said i wanted a list that is general. Like this list for example which is about psychology which is something we all experience. Not some shit like “top 10 major league baseball players”, “top 10 america senate”, “top 10 kings in europe”, “top 10 cricket scores” ” top 10 beer brands” etc etc….I prefer stuff that everyone and every country has or everyone knows. “top 10 worst prisons”, “top 10 significant mathematical equation”, “top 10 ways to explore space” .This site this days is churning out list that appeal to certain people.
P.S: Personally, i would like a list of “top 10 metal gear solid characters” although i know it contradicts my argument but this is just something personal.
55 Dave
January 7th, 2010 at 7:07 am
#10 – Don’t confuse probability with odds. If you flip a coin 10 times & get heads every time, the probability of it being heads again the next time are low. The ODDS are 50/50 every time, tho.
#5 – the 80s are thus far the only decade that has NOT been unattractive. Bad example.
56 Arsnl
January 7th, 2010 at 7:07 am
@Mr Scumbag (42): there was a mrscumbag commenting on a previous list. I dont know if it was you or not but thats why i asked you that.
57 bucslim
January 7th, 2010 at 7:08 am
@Freud (29):
Shouldn’t you be snorting cocaine off of your mom’s boobs instead of concerning yourself with the compositions of lists?
PS – sooner or later I’m going to write another baseball list just to piss you off.
58 bucslim
January 7th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Anyone who’s seen Rosencrantz and Gildenstern are dead know #10 to be false.
59 El the erf
January 7th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Another one – Melancholia or …Depression.
It results from a person having too much black bile.
Hang yourself if you want, but this stands true.
60 grainwetski
January 7th, 2010 at 7:32 am
I enjoyed reading this list very much. I will point out, however, that in piece #5 all items mentioned in paragraph two were actually cool, not examples of ‘herd mentality’. (j/k) Herd mentality and subjectivity are a half-step apart?
61 Emmylou
January 7th, 2010 at 7:37 am
#6 The Halo Effect is actually known as the Fundamental Attribution Error – we automatically assume people’s actions are the result of personality rather than circumstance. For example when we are cut up by someone on the road we assume they are a rude lunatic driver rather than a father rushing to get his sick daughter to hospital.
62 Mathie
January 7th, 2010 at 7:39 am
@Dave (55):
Actually, the probability of flipping heads on any coin toss is 1/2 or 0.5, no matter how many times heads was thrown before. Since flipping a coin 10 times are independent events, the probability of flipping heads 10 times in a row is (0.5)(0.5)(0.5)(0.5)(0.5)(0.5)(0.5)(0.5)(0.5)(0.5) = (0.5)^10 = 0.00098.
Since these are independent events, the probability of flipping a heads given that you flipped heads 10 times prior to is still 0.5 (see the conditional probability of independent events)
The odds of flipping a heads is 1:1 (1 way it can happen:1 way it does not happen)
I hope this clears everything up for good.
63 Mr Scumbag
January 7th, 2010 at 7:40 am
@Arsnl (56): I suspected that was the case. Yes, that was me. I have since changed my name to avoid that kind of confusion.
64 krypto092108
January 7th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Nikki should have mentioned that the colloquially termed Law of Large Numbers has to do with The Gambler’s Fallacy…
In fact, it’s a large part thereof, in that if you fail the first times, you’ll succeed the next time…
That itself, is wrong, in that when you are on a losing streak, that’s where you stay, and not win, because the first time you lose, the more likely you are to keep losing…
65 kappa_1
January 7th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Wonderful list! I’m also glad to read all these positive comments, and glad that more people are learning about the fascinating social science that is psychology. It gets far too much flack from ignorant people who have never taken a psych course in their life.
66 missmozell
January 7th, 2010 at 8:09 am
I had to try to explain the gambler’s fallacy to an acquaintance. He was angry because he’d been buying scratch offs and hadn’t won anything. All the tickets print the odds on the card (1:500, 1:10, etc). He’d bought eight or nine of a 1:7 card and gotten nada. The way I explained it was, “You are buying cards, people all over Texas are buying cards. You buy six cards, someone in Dallas buys one card, and HE’S the one who gets the one in seven that pays.”
67 silvernano
January 7th, 2010 at 8:12 am
BEST list of the year, just sublime!
68 Lori
January 7th, 2010 at 8:22 am
This is probably my favorite list here! Good job. Science is always interesting.
69 bassbait
January 7th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Number four could easily be labeled “Atheism” instead because it seems like every atheist I have ever met is only trying to spite christianity.
70 randomprecision24
January 7th, 2010 at 8:32 am
@bucslim (57): I’m working on another baseball list as well. At least we know two people will enjoy the list.
@Freud (29): Don’t be close minded about learning something new. Some of the best lists I’ve read on this site have been about topics I had no interest in.
By the way, great list Nikki! Is Gambler’s Fallacy related to me changing one of the answers on a multiple choice test when I answer 4 B’s in a row?
71 notorioustgb
January 7th, 2010 at 8:38 am
great list, one of my favourite topics. was just having a conversation yesterday about leaps of logic, how easy it is to convince ourselves that what we perceive and think about a situation is an obvious truth. the level of discourse in society these days indicate that critical thinking is indeed an endangered beast.
Wired had an interesting article this summer about the placebo effect and the fact that it is actually getting stronger and seriously messing with the research and development of new pharmaceuticals:
http://www.wired.com/medtech/drugs/magazine/17-09/ff_placebo_effect?currentPage=all
72 Taylor
January 7th, 2010 at 8:58 am
@randomprecision24 (70):
Can the list somehow involve Roy Halladay? I’m a Blue Jays fan, you’re obviously a Phillies fan and he’s just an unbelievable pitcher.
73 Me
January 7th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Missing from the list is probably one of the most common: The Appeal to Probability, which basically is the thought that if something is even remotely possible, then it will inevitably happen. It’s why people play the lottery, or why some are afraid of flying lest a crash.
74 Queeny
January 7th, 2010 at 9:03 am
A good example of reactivity is when I drive as close to the speed limit as I can when I am passing a speed trap.
75 noclustu
January 7th, 2010 at 9:09 am
awesome list! @bassbait (69) you seem to have a bit of “herd mentality” mixed with a sprinkle of “escalation of commitment”. This list has nothing to do with religion, why are you bringing this up?
76 randomprecision24
January 7th, 2010 at 9:15 am
@Taylor (71): Top Ten Ways to Convert my Number 34 Cliff Lee T-Shirt into a Number 34 Roy Halladay T-Shirt
77 Freshies
January 7th, 2010 at 9:20 am
@bassbait (69):
No, Atheism is thinking logical and not buying into the backwards thinking that holds back societies.
78 El the erf
January 7th, 2010 at 9:26 am
I know many a nerd on this site who relate quite well with herd mentality. And the head of the herd of nerds is a fatass whom I know quite well. No jimmies for guessing who.
79 noclustu
January 7th, 2010 at 9:28 am
@77 El… you should replace the text of your comment with “hate, hate, hate, hate, hate”. So much easier and straight to the point. Keep spreading it! Nobody cares.
80 gabi319
January 7th, 2010 at 9:29 am
@bassbait (69):
Perhaps there’s something about the Halo Effect of your mentality that makes you think atheists have nothing better to do than spite Christianity, but I assure you this particular atheist has better things to do like teaching a generation to avoid herd mentality.
…before you assume I’m “preaching” the good word of atheism, I teach them individuality through creativity and art, you doof.
81 Arsnl
January 7th, 2010 at 9:35 am
@randomprecision24 (70): You do that baseball list. Im the type of european that thinks the only sport out there is football but im going to read and enjoy your list just to spike the guy
ps maybe ill do a football list myself@El the erf (59): thats true dude. just yesterday a witch tried to put a spell on me so i make more black bile. but luckly it rained and i also used my expelliarmus spell. im fine now but im a bit shaken
82 Taylor
January 7th, 2010 at 9:37 am
@randomprecision24 (75):
Are you not happy about the trade? Or was that just sarcasm?
83 El the erf
January 7th, 2010 at 9:39 am
See what I meant.
This site has taught me to become wiser by the day.
Herd Mentality. wow. It just kept slipping out of my mind all this time.
Great list.
Listverse forever.
84 ianz09
January 7th, 2010 at 9:50 am
@astraya (40): Amen.
@bassbait (69): I almost want to agree, simply out of spite myself, but I know enough decent atheists to dispel that as accurate.
@gabi319 (79): That is what should be taught. And if the kiddies choose a religion or no religion, at least they won’t be sheep about it. It will their own choice. You are one of the atheists on this site who I like and have respect for, mostly because you aren’t a pompous asshole.
85 El the erf
January 7th, 2010 at 9:58 am
@Arsnl (80):
Chocolates.
That should help ya recover from the didder.
86 RedMan
January 7th, 2010 at 10:08 am
This was a very good list however I feel that some of it was generalized. Not everyone who wears tie-dye or has sea monkeys is doing so to fit in. There are other things I could bring up but I’m in a hurry. Nice list though.
87 Lifeschool
January 7th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Hey there,
What a great list today – I read every word eagerly. As a former psych student myself I can encourage folks that there are many more of these out there. My personal favourite is Agency Mentality.
Agency is when a person agrees to do something as long as they can blame someone else for it. A simple example is a worker who gets caught doing something beyond their usual role and who simply blames the boss (or the sub-boss) for demanding it. The Police are Agents of the law, and they can blame the letter of the law for their actions. The military are Agents of their country; and are extensively trained to follow orders and NOT to question them. The most famous Agency experiment involves a person being told to press a red button on the authority of a prompter – even though this may result in pain or the death to another. A person with a white coat and a clipboard, or anyone in uniform (herd), is a naturally accepted leader of Agents.
88 Arsnl
January 7th, 2010 at 10:21 am
@El the erf (82): thats why i hate going to stadiums concerts and malls:)). And bars on friday and saturday night.
@ianz09 (83): arghhh you fell in the religious discussion trap. I think its the most current topic here in LV
89 Packeranatic
January 7th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I just want to clarify a few things about Reactance.
The condition for Reactance is ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder) and is more commonly known as Defiance and is common in teenagers. Any time their freedom feels threatened, it is common for them to ‘shut down’ and not immediately comply with what is being asked (Reactance) or to outright state or do the opposite of what was asked (Defiance). Reactance is the feeling of not wanting do something whereas Defiance is seen as the act that is based off of this feeling.
A lot of times this disorder works in combination with a Self Fulfilling Prophecy and leads to things such as school refusal and anxiety problems.
90 Sam27
January 7th, 2010 at 10:41 am
This is a great list!
When I saw it on the front page I didn’t think much of it but it actually turns out to be one of the most fascinating lists we’ve had for ages.
Well done Nikki!
91 Tom Wang
January 7th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Getting an immediate smaller payoff in the lottery example is not always a bad thing. A lot of multimillion dollar jackpots are pay something like $25k for 29 years and X million on the 30th year. A good deal of winners are 50+ years old and would never get their payoff before they died. In this case getting .5X million dollars immediately is not a bad call. It happens all the time.
Stupid Question: Do other (non-US) countries have a lottery system as large as some state lottos? (100 million plus USD?) Here in Tennessee, USA it pays for 75% of college tuition to students with good grades.
92 ianz09
January 7th, 2010 at 10:45 am
@Arsnl (87): Nah, it isn’t a discussion, and I don’t plan on taking it further. I say it isn’t a discussion because most likely the only people who will choose to engage me further on the topic will on flame and insult, rather than actually discuss. Like I’ve said many times I have no problem with differing viewpoints, but I have a big problem with pricks.
93 Andres
January 7th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Excellent list, but I wouldn’t classify placebo as a fault in human thought, especially since it is so poorly understood.
94 Ffiffisop
January 7th, 2010 at 10:48 am
“Certain probabilities, such as getting a heads when you flip a (fair) coin, are always the same. The probability of getting a heads is 50%, it does not matter if you’ve gotten tails the last 10 flips.”
THE ODDS ARE NOT 50/50 EACH TIME!!! It’s been proven that there’s a 51/49 chance that it will land on the side that it was flipped on. In other words, if it was heads before you tossed it, it will be 51/49 to get a heads.
Nice list though
95 henrysmyagent
January 7th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Didn’t see my favorite mental fart on this well done list which is COGNITIVE DISSONANCE – the belief in two opposing ideas at the same time. Smoking is a good example. Smokers feel great while they smoke, and they know smoking is killing them. Not to get too political, but when a government has 50,000 troops in a foreign country that are antagonizing the people of that country into insurgency, and then decides to send 30,000 more troops to “contain” the insurgency that is also COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. Britain’s actions during the American Revolution are another example. The British government knew the Americans hated having a standing army and did not want to pay the extra taxes to support the troops, and Parliament also thought it a good idea to force the colonists to quarter those same troops in their own homes!
96 Arsnl
January 7th, 2010 at 11:11 am
@ianz09 (91): i get what you mean but for me religion or atheism is a personal choice. As long as its neither constructive nor entertaining i dont see the point in it. But pricks are annoying. Probably it has something to do with the reactance thing but im not so smart to use reverse psychology. The only thing reverse psychology gave me was a louis xv lamp and an ear infection. Long story.
97 ianz09
January 7th, 2010 at 11:21 am
@Arsnl (96): I agree. But when other people get on this website and tell me I’m wrong or stupid because of what it is I believe, I take serious issue with it and defend myself. But when others simply state their stance, I have never had a problem with it. In fact, I respect people of any religious view or lack thereof more if they make no attempt to insult or alter other people of differing views, while still maintaining their view strongly. I’d take a firm, respectful atheist over over a narrow-minded door-knocking Christian any day.
98 archiealt
January 7th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Great list. ‘Pareidolia’ is something that pisses me off beyond belief, I hate twats who try and see meaning in everything. However i’ve never known the name of it before, now I do. Thank you Nikki. If I ever meet you I will buy you a sandwich.
99 archiealt
January 7th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Great list. Pareidolia is something which pisses me off beyond belief, I hate idiots who try and see meaning in everything. However I’ve never known what it’s called before, now I do. Thank You Nikki. If I ever meet you I will by you a sandwich.
100 Arsnl
January 7th, 2010 at 11:37 am
@ianz09 (97): well why do you have to take a stand and defend yourself? If someone tells you you’re stupid cuz of what you believe well how can affect you and your beliefs.
Also never underestimate the number of people that will call you stupid for no reason at all so fighting everyone of them or even fighting some is like don quixote fighting the windmills. I only get annoyed i just prefer to move on and not care cuz well it really doesnt matter what people think of me:p
101 Arsnl
January 7th, 2010 at 11:40 am
@archiealt (98): pareidolia was already in 2 recent lists. Im starting to think its a LV favoured along with obama
102 joeyjoejoejrshabadoo
January 7th, 2010 at 11:48 am
haha, i think the author also has an econ degree (sunk costs, gambler’s fallacy, hyperbolic discounting, G-D-P)
103 mom424
January 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Very excellent list Nikki. Interesting and widely appealing seeing as everyone everywhere has behaved, at one time or another, exactly as predicted. Even me – ask me about those high-waisted jeans in the 80′s crushing my ribcage.
@ianz09 (84): My Mom did exactly that – dragged me to every church of every denomination, with the intent that I would choose when I matured. Of course I chose none; too much contradiction and far too exclusionary. And of course, I don’t believe in magic. But at the same time I am somewhat envious of those that believe – I envy their faith.
104 archangel
January 7th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Fantastic list! I love learning about cognitive stuff since it’s something very apparent to me everyday! I especially hate the Halo Effect. I’m not prone to it at all but everyone else seems to be in the way they judge (being neurotypicals), which inadvertently pisses me off.
105 phil drummond
January 7th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Great list!
106 ianz09
January 7th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
@mom424 (102): I hated my Dad for doing something similar as well. Truth be told, going to church was preventing me from believing what I do. I’m not a churchgoer, I don’t Bible-thump, I don’t preach. But, I have come to terms with everything I currently believe, and am quite content in it.
@Arsnl (99): Arsnl, you pretty much nailed dude. I’ve come to realize that when people initiate an ARGUMENT, not a debate or discussion, that arguing back is like trying to tear down a brick wall with a creme-filled donut. So when I argue back, I don’t argue to prove I’m right. I believe what I believe, and consider myself no more right than the next guy. I argue to prove that the people attacking me are blind idiots who hopped on the passing bandwagon, which happens to be atheism or what have you. In my daily life, I actually rip other Christians more than atheists, because they are more ignorant and irritating than most atheists I know personally. It is just on this site, I generally get berated and attacked by atheists. But many of my friends are very die-hard atheists, and most of the people I dislike are blind Jesus-freaks who believe everything preacher says without question. It’s a weird paradox.
107 copperdragon
January 7th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
@Dave (55):
and knowing the difference is how GOOD gamblers make THEIR money
108 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
January 7th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
@Ffiffisop (94): Your dumb as hell. The odds stay the same. That’s why it’s called a “fair coin.”
109 Chels
January 7th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Herd mentality is the reason Twilight is so popular…
110 Andrewoh
January 7th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I don’t think number 9, reactivity, is a fault. How can working harder when being watched a fault? I think the reason it made the list was because of the research that was done on it, and the mistake was classic, and which makes a very interesting story. But based on the topic, there’s no way it’s a fault in human thought.
111 kennypo65
January 7th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Critical thinking will eventually force you to question authority. This is why they don’t teach it in school. School trains you to be a good little consumer and do what you’re told.
As an atheist, I personally don’t belittle the beliefs of others when it comes to spirituality. In point of fact, I am a great fan of the Dalai Lama. He is the finest example of a “holy man” IMHO. I do however, fight back when people try to force their beliefs on others(i.e. teaching intelligent design in science class, school prayer etc.)
112 vcbecky
January 7th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Longtime reader, first-time poster. I just wanted to say that I approve of the use of the word “Testees” in this list even if it is misspelled. Back to lurk-mode.
113 Arsnl
January 7th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
@ianz09 (106): well that being comfortable with i believe in or (or dont believe in) is the reason i dont argue with others and i dont need to explain or push down someones throat. If im in peace with my ideas i dont have to get annoyed with other people. And religious zealots and pushy atheists are about the same kind of people. They try to convince you. They think that being flashy and all over the place they will change you. I dont know why this happens. Maybe the insecurities regarding their own belief make them act like that. Maybe they think that if they “convert” one from the other side means that they are right.
Ps: i admit i love arguments. I really enjoy them. Its part of us humans. Gets the blood pumpin but sometimes, some arguments dont go anywhere and so i dont get involved- an LV example the abortion list. Nothing good happened, only a meltdown an people on all the sides- supportes adversaries and people that just didnt care- got frustrated.
114 Arsnl
January 7th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
@vcbecky (114): are somekind of LV shark?
It makes me laugh everytime i read comments like that “been a long time reader but its the first time i comment”. Makes me open a bottle of champagne, open a box of cigars and celebrate the birth of a new commentor in the LV world.
115 Scratch
January 7th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Interesting list, well done.
I’d like a baseball list, but maybe I’m just having reactivity to Mr. Freud.
116 Maggot
January 7th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
@ianz09 (84): And if the kiddies choose a religion or no religion, at least they won’t be sheep about it.
Kiddies don’t “choose” religion. They are indoctrinated by their deluded parents. Thus continues the cycle of delusion.
Signed – “pompous asshole”
@ianz09 (92): I have a big problem with pricks.
That’s not what I heard.
117 Becca
January 7th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
This was a really well-written list, I appreciated the examples to get the point across. I think so many people have the Gambler’s Fallacy going on is because, if you flip a coin twice and get tails both times, then the odds of that session are tails 100%. They see the odds changing because they look at everything in sessions that are only relative to them. Just a thought, although not very eloquently put.
118 randomprecision24
January 7th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
@Taylor (82): I think its a brilliant move! Bravo to Reuben Amaro. I thought it was hilarious that he chose the same number as Lee. (32, of course, is retired). I’m just glad I opted to purchase the $25 t-shirt instead of the $120 jersey.
@Scratch (117): Thats at least three people now interested in the list bucslim, I’d say we need to get started. First to get a baseball list published wins the prize.
119 Nikki
January 7th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
I’m so happy about the positive feedback on this list,
Thanks everyone!!
120 Maggot
January 7th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
@randomprecision24 (120): Thats at least three people now interested in the list bucslim
I’m always interested in a good baseball list. I dug both yours and buc’s previously published ones.
121 Maggot
January 7th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
@Nikki (121): This was an interesting idea for a list Nikki. Nicely executed too. Well done.
122 wondersquid
January 7th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
@bassbait (69): You’re not hanging out with the right atheists.
123 wondersquid
January 7th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
This psychological stuff is fascinating. Doesn’t it seem like we ought to start training kids in school how to think better? Clearly we’ve started to outline some of the worst pitfalls. If we could teach kids to avoid some of the stupidity, it seems like the world would just have to get better.
124 Taylor
January 7th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
@randomprecision24 (120):
I submitted a baseball list during the world series but I’m guessing that if it hasn’t been published by now it probably wont ever.
125 sgcvelasco
January 7th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
@Nikki (121): You totally deserve the praise!
126 Tryclyde
January 7th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
As someone who lives in the same state as Atlantic City and makes regular trips to Las Vegas, I can tell you that the gambler’s fallacy is not at all obvious to most people in a casino. It cracks me up when I see people intently staring at the roulette board, which has the results of past spins posted, trying to decipher patterns that can never mathematically exist. It’s why casinos can afford to get bigger and more lavish all the time.
127 Tryclyde
January 7th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
@Freud (29): I disagree. I actually like it at times when lists are posted and I have no clue about the content. Perhaps if I wasn’t interested in the topic before, I will be after being exposed to it.
128 Jessica Rabbit
January 7th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Haha the placebo effect… I sold my cousin an iron pill and told him it was x-tacy. He was “high” for an hour til someone told him what the pill really was.
129 Scott
January 7th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
@Dave (55): You have this wrong. Probability is: the number of desirable outcomes/number of possible outcomes, Odds is: the number of desirable outcomes/number of undesirable outcomes. So, the probability of getting tails is 1 to 2, but the odds of getting tails is 1 to 1.
130 Derek
January 7th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
@kennypo65 (113): Maybe they do this in some countries. As a teacher, I would be ecstatic if my students displayed critical thinking.
131 djgazza
January 7th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
the placebo effect is brilliant , we gave someone tea sweeteners and he was thinking he was off his head haha
132 kt
January 7th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Hehehe, testees.
133 nuriko
January 7th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
best list to date for 2010!
134 Shifty
January 7th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
In regards to coin flipping; everyone seams to be forgetting the 0.003264% chance of it coming up edge.
135 schizo
January 7th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Mind provoking list, nice!
IMHO i see a bit redundancy, no 7 (self fulfilling prophecy) is more or less the same or cover no 1 (placebo effect). It would be better if no 7 mention that it covers place bo effect, or vice versa, if you’d like it. Spare no 1 for something similar to Herd Mentality, i.e: appeal to authority or popular person. It’s common faults in human mind too.
136 astraya
January 7th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Escalation of commitment works positively, too. Think about the progress of a relationship from first meeting through to the 50th wedding anniversary, or a hobby from a vague interest to an all-consuming passion, or being a member of the List Universe from first stumbling across it, venturing a comment of one’s own, venturing more and longer comments, getting to know the other commenters, submitting a list of one’s own, then one day becoming – gasp – The Top Commenter (not that anyone apart from me noticed at the time).
137 ianz09
January 7th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
@Maggot (118): Maggot, you really just don’t like me, do you?
138 El_Karlo
January 7th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Ok i admit it…I laughed at the word testee’s in item 8.
That is my useful contribution for today. Good list.
139 Maggot
January 7th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
@ianz09 (139): Maggot, you really just don’t like me, do you?
Lol, I like to keep you guessing.
140 ianz09
January 7th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
@Maggot (141): Well, I’ve guessed.
141 Maggot
January 7th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
@ianz09 (142): And I answered. Ambiguously.
142 ianz09
January 7th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
@Maggot (143): I saw that. Idk, I just seem to be taking a lot of crap from users here anymore, whether that includes you or not. I thought everyone was just assholes, but it seems obvious that my presence here has become more annoying than anything. Plus some major shit just went down at here at home, so between that and the fact that my comments and insight appear to be worth shit, I think it is a great time to end my run here on Listverse. Thanks for having me.
143 Maggot
January 7th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
@ianz09 (144): Oh stop whining. I’m just messing with you. Now, I’m truly sorry for whatever went down in your personal home situation there, but don’t let anything I’ve said or anyone else for that matter, keep you from participating in Listverse. Nut up, dude! I’ve been flamed plenty of times on here myself, but that shit just rolls off… Post for YOU, man. No one else.
144 ggmanmd
January 7th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
I have studied psychology for my bachelor’s degree, have had four years of medical school, and did my residency in Psychiatry. I have never heard of number two, Escalation of Commitment, as an understood phenomenon. Could number two actually be more of a political statement? It sounds like the list maker just made it up.
145 yeah
January 7th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Really great list – very thought-provoking.
Re: Herd Mentality – Of course that is an 80′s guy in the picture, I knew that. Love his makeup and look. Guess what decade I teened in.
Re: Hyperbolic Discounting – I always prefer the immediate payoff. That’s cause I figure if I die I won’t be around to get the later one, so why wait?
Re: Escalation of commitment – Explains why I’m still in my job.
Re: Placebo effect – I am absolutely positive I’ll know the difference between whether I’ve taken a sugar pill or prozac. And so would others. I’m just saying.
146 DogBitez
January 7th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
@bassbait (69)
Your ego is out of control. Takes quite a bit of ugly self-importance to assume that MY Atheism only came about because I focused on YOUR religious beliefs and wanted to do the exact opposite as kind of a neener-neener thing. Besides, we all know that your Christianity is only a way for you to spite my Atheism. Neener-neener.
147 reruns dance
January 7th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Great list nikki. Hope to see more. Althoug gambling should have been higher!
148 mom424
January 7th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
@ianz09 (144): bullshit you’re not appreciated ian. Ditto on Maggot’s second comment. And trust me – I’ve been flamed too, take a look at some of the earlier lists – when I was a new guy.
149 ianz09
January 7th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
@Maggot (145): I ain’t talking about you man. It just kind of brought it all to light, even though I know you were probably kidding. I’m not done with the website, just commenting. I read ’cause I love the lists, I post ’cause I love the conversations. But I’ve just kinda realized people seem to be annoyed by me, so there really isn’t a point anymore to try and save face. It’s not the flaming, trust me.
150 randomprecision24
January 7th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
@ianz09 (144): There is no joking on listverse. Now Maggot, I want you to apologize to ianz09. Then we can all go back to getting along.
151 ianz09
January 7th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
@mom424 (150): Just don’t worry bout it guys, I’m not trying to throw a pity party.
152 Jayanti
January 7th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
awesome post… thanks!
153 mom424
January 7th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
@ianz09 (153): Damn! and just as I was rolling a fatty.
Seriously ian, many of our younger members (and some of our old ones
), appreciate your contributions. Don’t let them down.
154 Maggot
January 7th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
@randomprecision24 (152): There is no joking on listverse.
Great, you’ve just rendered practically my entire existence on LV to nothing. Thanks a lot RP.
Now Maggot, I want you to apologize to ianz09.
Hey, how can I not love the guy. For one, he’s a fellow Slipknot fan. I don’t quite understand his hard-on for SoaD however.
Ianz…ianz…come back…
(reference: closing scene in Shane, credits roll)
@mom424 (155): …and some of our old ones appreciate your contributions.
He called me an old geezer once. That whippersnapping punk.
155 toit
January 7th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
@146
Dumb Ass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment
156 gabi319
January 7th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
@ianz09
(84): You are one of the atheists on this site who I like and have respect for
Well thank you kindly.
you aren’t a pompous asshole.
I’m not one on LV. I prefer to save my ass pomposity for the real world where every pompous one-eyebrow lift, every carefully crafted put-down (starting with the letter R so I can roll the rs. I find it adds pomposity) and the pompous asshole-iness of my white-glove faceslap can be appreciated to its full potential.
@ianz09 (151): But I’ve just kinda realized people seem to be annoyed by me
Everyone’s annoyed by everyone else or have you not noticed the high level of bickering that goes on around here? Sorry but I save the “You are unique and you are special and you are adorable.” speech for my kiddies that are 5 years and under. You’ve surpassed that age, so you’re getting the “Grow a pair” speech.
@ianz09 (153): I’m not trying to throw a pity party.
Well damn, I already took out the cookie dough, pedicure kit, and dvds of the romantic comedy genre. …………isn’t this the way normal people do pity parties? I personally prefer The Greatest Hits of the NHL. Nothing takes you out of a slump quite like seeing someone get body checked into last week. It makes me giggle.
157 sal
January 7th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Damn all these listverse peeps have some pretty boring comment…
158 Successful Researcher
January 7th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Great list. Thank you!
159 gabi319
January 7th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
@sal (158):
So’s your face.
160 Anonymous
January 7th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
#8″: Testees” – LOL!
161 randomprecision24
January 7th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
@Maggot (156): Great, you’ve just rendered practically my entire existence on LV to nothing
I think we can all live with that
162 Anonymous
January 7th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
#5: Isn’t thinking parachute pants, pet rocks, mullets, cone bras, tie-dye, sea monkeys, and the 1980s aren’t attractive and “not cool” an example of Herd mentality too?
163 Brian
January 7th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Escalation Of Commitment = G.W.Bush’s 2nd term
164 oouchan
January 7th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
@ianz09 (153): Man! Just when I start to do some real life stuff ian’s trying to jump ship.
You are one of few I like. You need to stick around more. Comments and all.
If you go, I’ll set my cat loose on you!
165 Iakhovas
January 7th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Great to come back from holidays and find a quality list awaiting me to kick of 2010 on listverse. Best list I’ve read in a while. I think we are all guilty of at least one of these from time to time, and in my case, several.
166 Maggot
January 7th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
@randomprecision24 (162): I think we can all live with that
I find your complete and utter disregard for my feelings to be appalling. In retaliation, when your next baseball list gets published, I am going to say it is too American and then turn the comments section into a religious debate.
167 randomprecision24
January 7th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
@Maggot (167): And in turn we will discuss Eminem and perhaps complain because Dazed and Confused is not mentioned.
168 Akshat
January 7th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
its really nice listing.
169 chinese jade
January 7th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
as the saying goes “nothing can’t be done if you can think it out” do what we want do is right thing
170 chinese jade
January 7th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
[spam]
171 FlashofFury
January 8th, 2010 at 12:17 am
I can tell whoever wrote this took a few econ classes
172 Marian
January 8th, 2010 at 12:27 am
Nikki – this is a great list; very well presented, interesting, and best of all… FACTUAL!
Well done. I look forward to reading more of your lists.
173 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
January 8th, 2010 at 12:30 am
@ianz09 (153): Quit being a little bitch. Either suck it up and keep posting shit on here, or go home and cry to your mom.
174 superman
January 8th, 2010 at 1:32 am
why cant you people get friends?
175 El the erf
January 8th, 2010 at 2:00 am
@Davy (106): Think before you intend to bring the sky on my head dude. I didn’t mean Big R.
176 Stefan
January 8th, 2010 at 2:19 am
Awesome list, one of the better ones on this site ! very well researched and most of all, unique.
177 Stefan
January 8th, 2010 at 2:37 am
BY THE WAY; National ianz09 hug day every 8th of Jan. lol!
178 muzli
January 8th, 2010 at 3:13 am
Escalation of Commitment – this is what keeps me coming to my job every day. Everday I think that things will get better… Sigh!
179 apotypwma
January 8th, 2010 at 3:49 am
thanks for sharing! science put simply…
180 El the erf
January 8th, 2010 at 4:17 am
@ianz09 (153):
You know I can’t pen down you a tribute. But as long as you are here, I am managing to hold down this herd of nerds. You go and I’ll give way.
181 Chris
January 8th, 2010 at 5:02 am
A lot of these are very similar in nature. Such as the placebo effect, reactivity, self-fulfilling prophecy and placebo effect. There’s another one too, it’s called the Pygmalion Effect. An experiment was conducted with two groups of kids. One group were actually troubled and the other group were geniuses. Each group was told they were the opposite to what they had actually been tested as. The teachers were also told the lie. Sure enough, the troubled youths were later tested at genius levels and the genius kids were later tested as being troubled and learning disabled.
This is an interesting topic for me. I have spent a long time studying NLP, hypnosis and the behavioural sciences. It’s amazing how much of therapy and effective change is simply placebo or self-fulfilling prophecy. It’s so easy to screw with someone’s head this way. A simple example is assuming the sale when you’re trying to sell a house or gym membership. “So WHEN you get started you will get xyz and we will update your fitness programme every three months. You’re gonna love it here. So will it be Mastercard or American express?” It doesn’t always work that easy but you can usually force a result if you’re crafty enough.
182 Jack
January 8th, 2010 at 5:09 am
If you flip a coin 20 times and it lands heads 20 times it is more likely that the coin is rigged and that there isn’t a 50% chance (but a higher one) of it landing heads next time.
183 Chris
January 8th, 2010 at 5:21 am
Jack the example given was a fair coin. Which means it’s not rigged. Aliens could land on our roofs and spiderman might come over for a cup of tea but not list items can’t include every “what if”. However electronic gambling often follows a pattern and can be rigged for a certain number of wins and losses.
184 apotypwma
January 8th, 2010 at 5:28 am
@Chris (184): Being a teacher, it is an interesting topic for me as well, which could be used as an educational pattern obviously. Any idea where can I find further information on how to make full use of it?
185 reruns dance
January 8th, 2010 at 7:37 am
@ramdomprecision I am still lamenting the thought of having the best one two punch in the league…….thank god we still got the best pitcher in the league though. Bring on spring training!!!!!!
186 Hoppip
January 8th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Nice list, really interesting to read… and for 5, I only follow fads that I actually like myself- if I think it sucks, I won’t follow. And because I actually like them myself, I will still “follow” after the fad died out.
187 Randall
January 8th, 2010 at 9:18 am
THE CULT OF THE BLUE MOUSE HAS ARISEN!
FIRST SIGN OF THE REBIRTH OF OUR LORD AND MASTER THE GREAT CTHULHU! (HE WHO IS BLUE, AND GIANT… WITH… TENTACLES AND SHIT… BLUE ONES! YEAH. THAT’S RIGHT. BLUE TENTACLES).
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/07/bluerats/
Okay, this really has nothing to do with this list. I just thought the blue mouse was some straight out funky shit.
188 becca808
January 8th, 2010 at 9:31 am
This list is very thought provoking…a great summary of different thought forms. So true that even the idea that someone is watching will completely alter the way you act. Human nature for attention and acceptance. becca808.wordpress.com
189 mom424
January 8th, 2010 at 10:01 am
@Randall (187): Very funky. And way cool – who’d a thunk a food dye can prevent spinal cord damage? The blue tint is just a bonus imo.
190 Cheri
January 8th, 2010 at 10:13 am
I regularly check out your lists – greatly enjoy the majority of them and are bored to death by others but I feel compelled to leave a comment of how educating, interesting and well published list this was.
191 Mabel
January 8th, 2010 at 10:35 am
It’s lists like these that keep me reading this site. Well done, Nikki.
That and the bizarre, weird ones, I should say.
192 Lifeschool
January 8th, 2010 at 11:35 am
@Packeranatic (89): Think of it like this – a force impacting on another will encounter some kind of resistance. Resistance may halt this force, bend with it, or rebuff the source in the opposite direction. Human beings are as good an example of ‘equal and opposite reaction’ as any subjection of Newtons Laws.
193 Mike
January 8th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Tie dye is still attractive, dammit. Great list aside from that.
194 Chris
January 8th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Very insightful! Thanks!
195 Randall
January 8th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
@mom424 (189):
Actually, if I were to SEE Blue Mouse in my home, I would, I confess, (after crapping my pants) find it hard to kill Blue Mouse. He’s so gosh darned cute in a weirdly Dr. Seuss/mutant abomination kinda way…
196 alfungus
January 8th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
@Mr Scumbag (11):
right on!!!!!!
197 zenhantz
January 8th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Very interesting.
198 randomprecision24
January 8th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
@reruns dance (185): Another Phillie fan in listverse? Nice! Where might you be from, my friend?
199 Wynona
January 8th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
That little thing about seeings ‘Jesus on a hot pocket’ made me giggle hehe
200 Mer Pints
January 8th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
shocking but cute, hehehe
201 ZibbyYamala
January 8th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
nice list! sad to see i have a couple of those faults. =/
202 autonomousblogger
January 8th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
This was a refresher from my Critical Thinking undergraduate class. Nice posting.
203 jmjarrell
January 8th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Very nice list. I have seen all of these, but am careful not to engage in them myself. Do you have any material to make a sequel list? I’m sure there are some other common cognitive fallacies…
204 The New Guy
January 8th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Great list, possibly the best… I could idetify myself with a few of those;funny 80′s guy…
205 CQSteve
January 8th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
The Physical Attractiveness Stereotype syndrome is alive and well. In my workplace we have a good looking employee who gets the good assignments everytime we get a new sector head. When she inevitably screws the job up, someone else has to come in and fix it. Us normals must be holding the world together! Great list, thanks.
206 p0q0r0
January 9th, 2010 at 1:50 am
Best List Ever! Each one of them is thought provoking. The list is also very well written! I liked the Interesting Facts presented too. Well done Nikki, looking forward to more such interesting lists from you.
207 Brett
January 9th, 2010 at 3:48 am
Your Gamblers Fallacy is only true for conventional statistics. Bayesian statistics are different.
The Sun either rises or it doesn’t. A 50/50 or coin toss chance. But let’s say you are the Adam and you move a stone from one pocket to the other each time the Sun rises. You soon have a full pocket, so Bayesian statistics would say there is a good probablity the Sun will rise every day (even though there is only a 50/50 chance of rising each day).
Bayesian stats are used in drug trials. If a drug is seen to be beneficial, then the placebo group are moved over to the beneficial drug to get more stats on the beneficial drug.
Off the top of my head, the longest run of Red or Black in Roulette is 27 (ish). So getting continual runs just doesn’t happen (even thought conventional stats say it should).
208 Shadow Lord
January 9th, 2010 at 11:48 am
Classical!
Now the real listverse is back!
209 Angelique
January 9th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Congratulations!! I loved this list, interesting as it should have been, in the last days… ^^
210 Josh
January 10th, 2010 at 1:58 am
@henrysmyagent (95): I think you may want to go back and read up on cognitive dissonance. It’s more of a motivation principle when two options collide. For example, being presented with a piece of cake when you’ve made a new year’s resolution to lose weight. It being the new year, you may experience a heightened amount of cognitive dissonance when faced with the option of eating the cake. On the one hand, you know that the cake will be delicious. On the other hand, you know that the cake will cause a rift in your new dieting regimen. To resolve the mental conflict, you may choose to resist the temptation of the cake. However, if it’s later in the year—once the hype of the new year’s resolution has faded—you may choose to indulge because the cognitive dissonance isn’t as strong.
211 Josh
January 10th, 2010 at 2:06 am
In essence, cognitive dissonance = mental conflict (i.e., when refering to desires and motivation)
212 Me
January 10th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Good points, I think I will definitely subscribe! I’ll go and read some more! What do you see the future of this being?
213 Simuun
January 10th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
@ Freud (29)
you can’t seriously believe that this list will appeal to everyone can you?
That would be like asking all directors to make movies only you like, or for artists to produce music “will apeal to EVERYONE”
This list, like anything produced subjectively by a third party can in no way, ever, be appealing to everyone.
So sit back, relax, and just enjoy the ride!
214 ukorrigert
January 11th, 2010 at 2:02 am
About Hyperbolic Discounting
Getting money now means less risk of not getting any money at all. In essence we pay to avoid the risk factor.
And not all of these are really faults. For example, I would not call the placebo effect or reactance faults. The fault in these cases would be not taking these phenomena into account when doing research.
215 Nikki
January 11th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Ukorrigert,
They are faults in that they are problems with cognition. they are “mental shortcuts”, or biases in how we process information.
Thats not saying that all of them have negative consequences, but they are all faulty reasoning.
216 meli
January 11th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Nice list, I see them everyday.
217 halfjack08
January 11th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
It’s more like .4899 probability for heads and .5101 probability for tails. Usually the heads side of a coin is heavier because of the amount of material used in the picture. Therefore, being heavier, it will land tails side up most often.
218 Cernunnos
January 12th, 2010 at 5:44 am
the gambler’s fallacy doesnt apply to online roulette. since its online, and not actually a ball physically spinning on a numbered disc, people arent trusting that its completely random, so the casinoes make it so that it cant land on the same colour more than 6 times in a row. making it not completely random, and easy to exploit.
219 Mrs. Antichrist
January 12th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Very interesting. There have been a lot of great lists lately — keep up the good work!
I’ve definitely been guilty of a few of these, particularly #4.
The gambler’s fallacy isn’t at all surprising, given that most people have a hard time grasping probabilities.
220 widgee
January 12th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
As long the mass media continues to “entertain” the receptive human mind with images of violence and murder, wars and the destruction of society will continue. The media exacerbates the natural human tendency towards violence.
221 top10idiot
January 12th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
this is so lame, you, the list, and people who thinks these bullshit are “mistakes”
222 kavi
January 13th, 2010 at 1:32 am
this list was so cool and intersting
223 paul
January 13th, 2010 at 5:02 am
I lol’d at the description of Herd mentality followed by herd mentality comments on previous fashions
224 Lucky Eddie
January 13th, 2010 at 11:21 am
I don’t know what it’s called but the most common fault I see is when people are afraid of safe flying but have no trouble with far more dangerous driving. Or afraid of very rare side effects from vaccinations but not the common harm from the disease. Or most of all, believe in a super powerful being that can they can make deals with to influence events.
225 …
January 13th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
This list is dreadful. It’s vague, full of inaccuracies, half of these things aren’t “faults” by any definition of the word
226 Romaray
January 13th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
These are not faults, just attributes.
227 Storm
January 13th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Oooh, I love psychological lists! There is kind of a conflict between Reactance (#4) and Herd Mentality. (#5) One says, “Be a rebel! Don’t act like everyone else!” and the other says “Do what everyone else does!” I guess it sort of puts people into balance, thinking for themselves, but not deviating too much from society. Great list, I found it really interesting!
228 Greg
January 13th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
#1 is somewhat incorrect. While it is true the odds of landing a heads over tails is 50-50, this probability is reduced as tests continue. i.e. the probability of landing two heads in a row is 25% (50%*50%). Even though the odds are 50-50 in each individual test.
229 maulbeck1
January 13th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
nice list. That 80s guy in the pic on number 5 if memory serves correctly is Boy George.
230 Sal
January 14th, 2010 at 2:37 am
nice list, but the worst part is from now on i’ll always remember this list and its content and thats gonna nag me…
231 liyutta
January 14th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
ya…… iI shal remeeber this list all my life
232 Blue.
January 14th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
I tend to do #2/Escalation of Commitment a lot when it comes to relationships. Always end up getting hurt even worse..
233 Just1More
January 14th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Response-er No. 11, aka, Mr. Scumbag seems to be almost completely unaware of the fact that even schools are a member of the, as he goes on to describe as being, “Scammers,” and those willing to “take advantage of us.”
I bet that 90% of all human beings possess all of these traits at any given moment.
234 Ian
January 15th, 2010 at 3:39 am
At no 10 I think you’re wrong.
Derren Brown proved this by flipping a coin and getting heads 20 times in a row on UK TV.
It took him about a week of continuous flipping to do it, but he did it.
(OK, maybe not 20, but some other large, improbable number; and maybe not a week, but several days)
Sooner or later, it is bound to happen…
Like the old story about sitting monkeys in front of typewriters (what?)…if you have enough monkeys, enough typewriters and enough time one of Shakespear’s sonnets will eventually emerge.
235 SirSociable
January 15th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Jesus on a hot pocket – Looks more like Marlene Dietrich
236 anonymous
January 15th, 2010 at 10:09 am
You need more research for #10. Google ‘Law of large Numbers’. OP Fail
237 bugzy
January 15th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Reading the comments of everyone I can see why the world is in a mess.By the time you reach 25 or less you should be aware of all of this.Most people lie to them selfs and belive it.
238 Mike
January 15th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Great list
239 Dan
January 15th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Only disagreement, the placebo effect is NOT a fault. Dr Weil would say it demonstrates the body’s natural healing process. The expectancy that what you’re taking could be the real stuff is sufficient to have natural healing processes kick in. Ask the Chinese.
Meantime, if I ever participate in a drug trial I won’t ever think I’m submitting myself to erroneous thinking.
240 Phil E. Drifter
January 15th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Some of those pics look photoshopped.
241 doubting thomas
January 16th, 2010 at 11:02 am
pure and utter psychobable bullshit
242 Mitch
January 16th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Anyone interested in further elaboration on these fallacies and other human behaviors mitht like to read Johah Lehrer’s book: “How we Decide”.
243 clambam
January 16th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Sorry, the Placebo Effect has been more or less debunked. The results of the original research were so striking that nobody bothered to reproduce them for more than 30 years. When they did so, they found that placebo-induced “recoveries” were actually accounted for by people getting better on their own, with or without medication — or a placebo.
244 Poodle
January 17th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Placebo effect debunked? Nonsense. I see skeptics claiming this regularly on the basis of a single meta-analysis and cochrane report, when compared with the massive body of evidence that has previously shown the effect to be a real thing.
245 Dan
January 17th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
If the placebo effect is “more or less debunked” (notice the choice of words) then the whole basis for western medicine’s research methodology (double-blind, placebo-controlled studies) would be out the window. Besides, “getting better on their own” applies to ALL subjects, placebo and medicine-under-test. Since the EXPECTATION of getting better has been shown to hasten recovery, it has to be accounted for to isolate the effect of the medicine-under-test. But Nikki said the placebo effect is a FAULT in human thinking. I’m having a hard time seeing that.
246 Nick
January 17th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Good list and first time poster..
You could rename this list “top 10 traits found in all politicians”
247 Nick
January 17th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
One more thing..
The placebo effect can only cure what the mind manifests..
Its not like it can be used to cure real aliments.
248 Big Nig
January 17th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
you make #2 seem like if something is going poorly, it will continue to do so and you use a picture of the War in Iraq to back it up you pessimistic, unamerican piece of shit.
have some faith
249 Jeff
January 19th, 2010 at 8:43 am
@Mr Scumbag (11):
I agree with your first point about schools. Though I wonder why you felt it necessary to give everyone an “Atheist bible thump.” Christianity(or any belief) and Science are not mutually exclusive. Just because you can say “Thunder mean God Mad” doesn’t make it science and we all know this(especially us that believe because we actually KNOW a living god in our daily lives. You’ll never understand unless you give it a try.) As to your good point about schools I saw a fantastic Ted Talk about how the Math curricula in High School should be focused more on Probability and Statistics than Calculus. Link here http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/arthur_benjamin_s_formula_for_changing_math_education.html
Take care!
250 Carter Cole
January 19th, 2010 at 8:47 am
sweet… thanks for d list
251 Jeff
January 19th, 2010 at 8:52 am
I wonder about how “Climate Change” fits with list items 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. And especially 2. I find it hilarious that the EPA considers the air we exhale to be pollution. The logical end result to solve Climate Change is to kill yourself. The whole thing is riddled with fallacy and sheer deception. Google ClimateGate
Heck in the 70′s in was an Ice Age, 80s the Ozone, 90s Global Warming, and now since all of those weren’t catching on we have the catch-all name Climate-Change. I assure you that the Sun has more effect on our climate than Mankind does.
252 hunkydory88
January 19th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Howdy guys, interesting article that I read a few days ago but I just read an eerily similar post on Cracked.com
It only has 6 of the items and is a more humorous approach but still, eerily similar considering the week apart..
http://www.cracked.com/article_18388_6-logical-fallacies-that-cost-you-money-every-day_p2.html
253 Shameem
January 19th, 2010 at 9:11 am
the reactance part was very intresting for me, cause i experienced that. all those things are the reflection of the character of the person.
254 Ben Jonjak
January 19th, 2010 at 11:06 am
The Black or Red case is interesting, but the actual statistics seems to be a matter of perspective. Although yes, each time that the roulette ball is going to come up red or black is 50/50 (I’m rounding the numbers for the sake of ease), the statistical probability that you will get 10 blacks in a row is much less than getting 1 black in a row.
So if you bet that it will be 3 blacks in a row, the chances of that are (1/2 X 1/2 X 1/2) or 1 in 8. But the chance that it will be red are 1/2. However, I suppose thinking like this only makes sense if you place your bets BEFORE the initial roll (“I am going to bet 3 consecutive blacks for an 8 to 1 return”). Do roulette tables let you make bets that way? How would taking such bets effect payout odds?
255 Dan
January 19th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Jeff – The purpose of science is to eliminate faults in human thought by fashioning objective experiments that can be reproduced by anyone.
In your estimation, who is responsible for the fraud and deception with respect to climate change. Please be specific.
256 Delly
January 19th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Nice but it leaves out the most important 2:
1. milgram experiment
2. belief without evidence, if it comforts or aligns to expectation (religion/hoax theories etc)
Also 2 in this list is not really a fault because it can be a good policy to just go for it if you are half way there.
257 blah
January 20th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
I totally don’t agree with the physical attractiveness sterotype.
They tell ugly, depressed, and ill people all the time that it’s “ok” to avoid hygeine, lose interest in material possessions, stop going out, etc. as a result of their unhappiness, depression, being a victim of abuse, etc., cuz it’s a natural human reaction to such things.
So if I see a woman walking down the street with a fresh new salon perm, perfect accessories, brand new designer clothes, expensive shoes, a figure she spends alot of workout time on, impeccable makeup, great posture and gait, a big white smile, and heads turning everywhere she goes, I’m supposed to remember that she could be going home to get pounded by her husband, sexually molested by her dad, berated endlessly by her drunken mother, or returning to that cardboard box she lives in under the bridge? Not a fucking chance. Unless she’s a closet psychopath, that’s the opposite of normal human response to difficulties, abuse, and hard times in life.
There’s a difference between being poor or diagnosed with bi-polar and having nice hair or whatever, which would be believable, and trying to convince people that the very best looking may have alot worse problems than you. It’s a cop out. The closest people like that ever come to hard times is when they accidentally die of engorgement through drugs or food, get so bored and selfish over not having enough stuff cuz their private jet and designer gowns aren’t good enough anymore, or seem to be normal people, which would belie their perfection in mags, except for when you find out they’re made that way to sell, and you see one of those photos in the tabloids showing them for what they really are – just as damn ugly as you.
258 Maggot
January 20th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
@free trial (257): After reading you blog, I thought your articles is great! I am very like your articles and I am very interested in the field of Free trial. Your blog is very useful for me .I bookmarked your blog! I trust you will behave better from now on; I hope she understands that she cannot exepct a raise.
After reading your post, I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
259 scott
January 21st, 2010 at 12:16 am
okay, the gambler thing.. the odds don’t change on the next coin flip but what are the odds of getting 10 heads in a row?
if it’s 50/50 aren’t you likely to get 5 tails in ten flips?
if you get 9 heads in a row, aren’t you more likely to get a tail the tenth time? maybe I’m just two stoopid to get my head around this one….
260 rtiludhiana
January 21st, 2010 at 5:51 am
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261 fonziefonz
January 22nd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
I totally agree with much of the list. However, some of them can be easily be explained by the fact that our time on earth here is limited. So things involving investment (time, money, etc) give one a sense of high importance psychologically.
262 mywaterdr
January 23rd, 2010 at 8:44 am
After reading this list my cognition is fine but I need to work on my hyperbolic discounting!
263 Jax
January 23rd, 2010 at 3:03 pm
The only real problem that I can see with this list is with the Gambler’s Fallacy. While what you said was at least partially true, the fact stands that mathematically, the odds of getting the same result (in a coin toss for example) decreases with each subsequent flip. In a coin toss the probability that you’ll get either given side is .5 (with 1 being absolute certainty. If using something like a die then there is a one in six chance. But for this example we’ll use a normal 2 sided coin.
As I said earlier, the odds of getting heads on the first flip is 1/2. On each subsequent flip there is also a one in two chance that the coin will land on heads. While this statistic would lead to the belief that there is a one in two chance for every time you flip the coin, there is another factor you have to keep in mind.
When you flip there’s a chance that the coin will land on heads and a chance it will land on tails. One the second flip there is also the chance that the coin will land on heads or tails.
There are now four possibilities for the results of the two flips which I will show now using the letter H for heads and the letter T for tails.
The possibilities are 1. HH 2. HT 3. TH 4. TT
Although there was a 1/2 chance for the flip when it stood alone, when it’s considered as part of a larger group of flips the chance of getting two flips that land on tails now becomes 1/4.
Showing that the chance of getting the same the same result indefinitely, while not impossible, is very statistically unlikely.
For example the chance of a gambler engaging in 8 flips and each one being a tails is .00390625
I calculated that by multiplying by .5 for each flip. So my math looked like this.
.5x.5x.5x.5x.5x.5x.5x.5 with X meaning times
That’s just from my rudimentary knowledge of statistics and probability, so don’t take my word for fact, that’s just my understanding.
264 Elpenguino
January 24th, 2010 at 1:19 am
jax: what you say has little to no relevance in gambling.
The only time it would be important is if the gambler is betting on both events at once.
If a man tosses a coin, and lands heads, then on the next coin toss, bets are placed, there is still a 50/50 chance of winning the bet should you place it on heads. It’s true that if you placed a bet on someone tossing heads twice in a row the odds would be lower, but the gamblers fallacy refers to individual events probabilities being unaffected by previous events, not the combined probability of all of the events in the sequence.
265 Ernesto
January 24th, 2010 at 6:05 am
I agree with Elpenguino on the gamblers fallacy. But what about Hyperbolic Discounting? I prefer long term invesments over short terms. I don’t think that this is a fault which applies to everyone, people are just too impatient.
266 ggmanmd
January 25th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
@toit (155): Toit– the reference from Wikipedia is pretty obscure. Anyone can write a paper.
Commitment by definition would involve staying the course in the face of adversity. Maybe I should have been folding up like a house of cards in the face of adversity. I don’t think so– we need more commitment escalators, and less quitters.
267 GRILLirious
January 27th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Great list. Gives you a lot to think about.
268 Lua
January 27th, 2010 at 11:06 am
wow!!! really nice list
269 crisismaven
February 3rd, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Great post! Have bookmarked it … By the way, I have just added a Reference List to my economics blog with economic data series, history, bibliographies etc. for students & researchers. Currently over 200 meta sources, it will in the next days grow to over a thousand. Check it out and if you miss something, feel free to leave a comment.
270 Conor Fackename
February 4th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
man, what’s the deal with that soldier lad, chattin with that old man, how in the heck is that related to; “2
Escalation of Commitment”
(btw very intresting list, fuckin’ sexy man)
271 Kiesling
February 5th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Technically the Gambler’s Fallacy is true, but they are using the wrong method. Flipping a coin it is a 50% chance for either heads or tails. If you are to flip a coin and receive 10 tails in a row, you may want to choose heads. The Gambler’s Fallacy explains that even though you’ve gotten 10 tails in a row, it does not matter because the chance of heads or tails remains the same. Which is true. However, saying that choosing heads because the last 10 were tails is just a mind game is wrong.
You are on a cliff. You need to reach the cliff just across from you that is 100 feet away. Inbetween there are 2 rows of pillars leading to the other side. (Both strait across) One row is left, the other is Right. However, on each pair of left and right pillars, one is actually an illusion and if you jump to it you’ll just fall. (Let’s say that whoever created these pillars used a coin to choose which pillar was to be an illusion) Now, would you run straight across on the left side? Probably not. But why.. it’s a 50 50 chance. There is no way of knowing if it’s left or right so why not just run straight across one of the sides. The chance of getting across is the same right?
Wrong.
The chance of the real pillar being left or right is still 50 50 all the way across, but the chance that the pillars are all left or all right compared to mixed up is much higher.
If you are to flip a coin 12 times and record the results, how many times will you get 10 in a row?
It is far more rare to get 10 tails in a row than a mix of heads and tails.
While the chance of the next flip is still 50 50, the chance of 11 tails in a row is even higher.
272 t6ytru654747474747474747
February 5th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
i have no herd mentatlity that is why i am commenting like the other 271 people on this list
hypocrisy rules
273 Fred
February 21st, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Is it just me or do these all sound like religious thinking problems ?
274 Dan
February 21st, 2010 at 8:02 pm
To Fred – None of them. Read again.
275 Derek
March 1st, 2010 at 8:48 pm
herd mentality lol. “nice list”
276 dark.knight
April 15th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
The Placebo Effect is surely just a glimpse of what the human mind is capable of…
I read of a 6-year-old boy whose comletely cut off leg grew back in just 2 years. He had always had a thing for lizards and had played a lot with them. Neither the doctor nor the parents had told him human legs don’t grow back, so he must have assumed cut off legs grow back -just like the lizard’s tail.
277 Nick
April 17th, 2010 at 6:16 am
@DC [23]: I think that most people know that past events do not affect the probability of future ones, but its a tendency built into humans.
278 netchick
April 19th, 2010 at 6:33 am
I do know why in “Escalation of commitment” the man is talking to the soldier. It is because the same tendency is apparent when people remain in a war that they just can not win thinking that the outcome may change somehow and because of the lives that have been lost in that war, instead of cutting their losses, they keep on fighting and lossing even more lives.
279 half of what you s and none of what you read
April 23rd, 2010 at 5:07 am
@yacketyyack [1]: Nostesia – the mental state whereby the person feels warm nostalgia for ‘the good old days’ yet forgets completely that the old days had its own range of problems a fears. (often seen in those with political beliefs to the right of the spectrum. (i.e. entire FOX networ; excepting ‘Beck-erwood’ who has no sense of history)
280 JK III
May 1st, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Is No.5 is the reason for Farmville’s success?
281 stber321
May 1st, 2010 at 9:06 pm
due to air residence flipping a coin there is a 51.8% chance of A heads
282 Bob Junt
May 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 pm
You have a type-o in the fourth sentence. Please don’t ever write deeply about the functioning of the human mind while speak loosely with the language you’ve agreed on using. It’s not a big deal to have type-o’s and messups and not-give-a-shits but it becomes a big deal when you can’t knowingly connect your thoughts with your own words. It makes us all repeatedly evaluate your sense of reality, especially when it’s in the first couple sentences.
283 Dan
May 4th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Bob – Where is the type-o?
284 Renee
May 25th, 2010 at 12:46 am
Actually the whole reverse psychology thing is not very effective these days at least not with the people I know. Parents try it all the time
" Fine don't clean your room you don't have to"
" Cool! Thanks Mom!"
" Go clean your room…"
"No. YOU go clean it"
and so forth from there.
285 kim yeschick
May 29th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Very nice!!
286 asd
June 14th, 2010 at 7:27 am
I could have told you these things by watching the general population for 5 minutes
287 Alyss
June 14th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
These are not faults, more like interesting aspects of the mind. If I have the ability to combat an ailment with sugar, simply because I tell myself it is doing something beneficial, then right on! By no means do I believe that is a fault.
288 Bros
June 17th, 2010 at 4:19 am
thata boy sig
289 pallavi
June 18th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
nice list
290 Crevy
June 20th, 2010 at 5:50 am
If on the other hand you get 86 heads in a row are you to assume that 1:It is just chance, 2:The gods are taking part, 3:You are in a production of "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern", 4: All of the above
291 Rob
June 30th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Herd mentality definitely.
292 blah
July 6th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
the gambler's fallacy as you stated it in which the past influences the future mostly refers to card games such as black jack and poker…
293 Asbell
July 11th, 2010 at 12:19 am
Congratulations, I think you have invested some time and nerves in it and thanks! even now I will return on this blog.
I stick to see some movies now luck.
294 the mick
July 12th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
lol, number 5 in the list is a picture of Steve Strange from the band Visage. Haven't seen this album cover in over 20 years !!
295 anonymous
July 14th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
interesting, and very true!
296 Bala
July 17th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
.Wow…this is good..
297 Mike
July 23rd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Testees…hehe
298 absolutsteph
July 24th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Interesting how we would never admit to ourselves doing these things!