Fame and history can easily distort the true picture of a man. The human side (and sometimes the bad side) of the famous dead can be forgotten which often contributes to the adulation that many receive. This list looks at 10 very famous and very special people and shows us the normal side of their life.
Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) was labeled a security risk by the First Continental Congress, and required to go around Philadelphia, from September 5 to October 26, 1774, with a bodyguard of 3 armed soldiers “surreptitiously dressed,” so as not to arouse suspicions. These men weren’t expected to protect Franklin from other citizens. They were expected to protect the secrets of the Congress from getting out to the public via Franklin’s loose lips. The Congress, after all, met during the last months before the American Revolutionary War, and the British presence in the colonies was obvious, widespread, and completely intolerable. Everyone on both sides knew it.
Franklin liked to frequent the bars around Philadelphia, and when he got to drinking, he got to talking to no one in particular. His bodyguard later testified that he could be quite rowdy after about 10 ales.
Saint Francis of Assisi (c. 1181-1266) is the patron saint of Italy and animal welfare. He famously preached a sermon to the birds. There are all sorts of miraculous legends about him, including that he suffered four wounds of the stigmata (only Jesus has ever suffered all five). He travelled in his young days as a monk to convert Sultan al-Kamil – offering to be thrown into a fire to prove that God would protect him. He once saved the city of Gubbio from a wolf that had been preying on the people and their cattle, by bringing the wolf into town and baptizing it. The wolf never bothered anyone else again. On his deathbed, so the legend goes, Francis thanked his donkey for carrying him all his life, and the donkey wept. Saint Francis was not just a living saint – he was a very humble man. He refused to become a priest and stayed a monk his whole life – the reason was that he did not think himself worthy – his order of monks was called the “lesser brothers”. You know what St. Francis of Assisi’s favorite food was? Fried chicken legs. He also liked pig knuckles.
You’ve probably heard of how much they hated each other. It’s been said that the only reason neither of them won a Nobel prize in physics is because they did everything within their considerable powers to destroy each other’s reputations. It would take too long to tell the whole backstory.
The feud finally turned seriously sour when Tesla invented alternating current, for the sole purpose of 1-upping Edison’s direct current. DC is extremely inefficient, requiring a cable wider than the average human wrist to transmit enough power for one Manhattan block. Thus, a lot of Manhattan blocks were reserved for these cables, all hooked up to huge power grids, just like telephone switchboards.
Tesla thought they were a horrible eyesore, and figured he could do better than “that idiot tinkerer.” He went to his hotel room, did the math, drew up the designs, and in a matter of months, invented AC electricity. The cords we use today in our household appliances are exactly the same width as those he used in his first applications.
AC caught on very quickly, and nearly bankrupted Edison, who fought back in a remarkably heartless, sociopathic manner. He deliberately and publicly executed an elephant by AC electrocution. He bought it from the Bronx Zoo, carted it out to a public park and called reporters to take note. Just to prove how dangerous Tesla’s inventions were. One of those huge DC cables would have had insufficient to penetrate the elephant.
His reprisal didn’t work, but astoundingly, because elephants were not endangered at the time, and it was technically his property, he was merely fined for animal cruelty, a punishment he appealed unsuccessfully.
Johannes Brahms (1833-1897), the great German composer and pianist, loathed cats. His favorite pastime was sitting on a large windowsill of his living room with the window open, idly shooting a bow and arrow he made himself at passing stray cats. He became quite skilled at it.
I bet you don’t know who to credit for this comment, “The discipline of most of the students I am paid to teach is deplorable. They claim to forget their assignments, when in truth, they simply refused to do them. They do not want to learn, and I cannot instill that desire in them. Our nation is doomed.” The answer: Aristotle (384-322 BC). I guess history really does repeat.
There’s a line in the film Swordfish, that goes like this, “Thomas Jefferson once shot a man on the White House lawn.” That isn’t true. Can you believe Hollywood would lie?!
What is true, is that Andrew Jackson did. You’d think the public would have known better than to insult him. By the time he was President, he had been in 7 to 8 duels, which were common back then, and had several lead pistol balls in his chest to prove it. He “rattled like a bag of marbles” and routinely coughed up blood.
He survived one assassination attempt by a deranged named Richard Lawrence, who tried to shoot him with two flintlock pistols, only to have both misfire, and then be disarmed by David Crockett himself, who pistol-whipped him into unconsciousness, but not before Jackson beat Lawrence with his cane. They don’t make politicians like that anymore.
The White House lawn incident occurred when an unidentified newspaper reporter, standing on an outdoor balcony of the White House, insulted the First Lady who happened to be walking by. This was the most common cause for a duel at the time, but as President, Jackson didn’t need a duel. He pulled out a pistol and shot the man through the chest, and he pitched over the balcony to the grass, dead.
Leon Battista Alberti (1408-1472) is not as well know today as the #1 entry, but in his day, he was known as a “Renaissance man.” He was employed as a painter, sculptor, architect, translator (especially of Latin), writer, cryptographer, and he wrote the first official Italian grammar book.
Today, however, he’s popularly known among athletes for a feat none of them could do if they had to, and if you’ve seen the film “Renaissance Man,” with Danny DeVito, you’ll remember that Alberti could stand with his feet together two feet in front of a six-foot man and spring clear over his head.
Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) almost killed a man in a streetfight. The year was 1705 and bach was 20 years old and freshly employed as the organist at a church in Cothen, Germany. For extra money on the side, he offered his service as a music tutor.
A particularly terrible bassoonist hired him, and after a few lessons, Bach gave up and told him the brutal truth, “That thing sounds like a nanny goat when you play it.” The bassoonist was offended and promised that bach would regret saying that, and left.
That evening, as Bach was leaving church to walk home, he turned onto a narrow sidestreet, and was greeted by the bassoonist and two of his friends. The bassoonist said something to the effect of “Now who’s the nanny goat?” and the three started for him.
Bach calmly unsheathed his rapier and said, “Who wants to be first?”
The bassoonist’s friends stopped, but he charged on anyway, and the two went at it. The bassoonist’s friends very quickly realized his error and broke up the fight. The bassoonist had several holes poked through his clothes, but was not hurt, and he never bothered Bach again.
(This story has its variants, one interesting suggestion being that Bach could not have afforded a rapier, in which case unless someone gave him one, he probably pulled out a large dagger.)
Yep, Sir Isaac Newton (1643-1727) never had sex. There is little documentation in any of his biographies of a relationship with another woman, except for that of his mother, and that of his 8 year old niece.
Newton was blisteringly Protestant, and would not have considered sex without marriage first. But he was too busy with mathematics, religion, and all-around mental stuff to bother mixing up with some woman.
Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519) invented the sniper rifle. That’s a misnomer, really, since the barrel wasn’t rifled inside. But da Vinci understood the severe inaccuracy of all the firearms of the day. Cannon didn’t have to be very accurate, but muskets did. He may have invented the wheel-lock firing mechanism.
Ludovico Sforza, the Duke of Milan, employed da Vinci to invent “war machines,” and da Vinci did indeed sketch several machines, most notably a wooden, covered cannonade, the precursor to the tank. He also sketched a particularly brutal scythed chariot, and there is one known sketch of a wheel-lock musket fitted with a telescope.
The telescopes of the day were refractors and not very powerful, which made them perfect for Earth-bound observations. Da Vinci simply bolted one along the top of a musket barrel, making sure the two were precisely aligned, and then, according to documents of the Duke, demonstrated its effectiveness by personally sniping soldiers off the parapets of an enemy castle, from 1,000 yards. There have been arguments over whether the documents were forged.
Da Vinci also invented scissors. He bolted two knives together, to facilitate shearing cloth.






























Yay
I guess even the immortals are totally human.
Where is my Jesus?
awesome list. i loved the bit about Johannes Brahms. i think i need some practice too…
I still miss my old girlfriend, but my aim is improving.
Where is Teddy Roosevelt? He was barely human though since he made Chuck Norris look like a pansy.
Yipee 5th n 6th
This is an interesting list.
I am always partial to historical list, especially those which give us a dose of biographical information. While I have read fairly extensively on the Founding Fathers, I was glad to get samples of other bio’s (Amazon will have an order in the very near future, I can feel it).
What exactly is the “human” component of the Da Vinci entry? Everyone knows he invented things. So where were the comments about his personal foibles and other things relating to the entire point of the list?
Yo man we are back to the good ol’ flamesy days..now waitin’ for the WWII list.. Two thumbs up to flamehorse
Great list! Tesla/Edison is particular sad – I have the feeling that Tesla was the “clever” one and Edison the “shrewd” one.
Where does Aristotle’s quote come from ?
Kwality list – very interesting!
Awesome list! It’s always nice to know these random things about famous people, cos then when someone says something about Bach (or whoever) you can say “Oh, Bach. Yes. He did such and such a thing…” and then you look really smart. Of course, you could always make things up, who would know?
Flamehorse, were you a bit distracted during the writing of this list?
Sorry mate, but you have opened yourself up to an awful lot of harassing grammar nazi comments, which is something that doesn’t normally occur in one of your fine lists.
I also found your “human” component somewhat erratic throughout the entries. Most notably in the Tesla/Edison and da Vinci entries.
Wouldn’t the anecdote about Jefferson only illustrate him to be a murderer?
And the story about Newton left me feeling like the man was missing some of our human attributes.
I am sorry to have to express less than glowing acolades to you FlameHorse. But this one just didn’t do it for me.
… I normally really enjoy Flamehorse’s lists, but this seemed a little rushed in places. Learnt some interestnig stuff though.
The Aristotle quote is kind of a double reference if you think about it. His most famous pupil was Alexander the Great (as well as a few of his succesor kings). So maybe we can surmise that one of history’s greatest military geniuses was a naughty schoolboy.
Isaac Newton = Sheldon
I didn’t understand the title of the list…
Woohoo !! 10 in a row!! Come on listverse you are doing good!!! but then again no asian or africans.
I dunno about you, but I always thought these people were human, and not aliens or so. o_0
Lol @ Isaac… maybe he had a thing for his instruments instead? xP Jokes!
@Avi (7):
TR and chuck norris were best friends in elementary
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1122514
The Brahms/cat thing isn’t true.
It’s sorta’ sad that we don’t think famous people are human. That they are somehow other-worldly or superior in all ways.
By the way, I always like the lists by FlameHorse, this is another good one.
Thank you FlameHorse! Most original list I’ve read, thus far. JFrater, maybe as a challenge, you can create a list based on most popular topics in movies? Just a suggestion…
The other great feud was Newton v Leibnitz. Newton didn’t let up even after Leibnitz died.
The other superhuman thing about Bach (apart from his music) was that he had 20 children, some of them with his cousin.
Loved the list, flamehorse! Learned a bit this morning about each of these guys.
Hate Brahms! What an ass for shooting cats.
Also I heard that both Newton and da Vinci were gay. Especially da Vinci. He rarely hung out with women and was seen mostly in the company of young men.
nice list , andrew jackson is a bad ass lol
ha ha ha, @Iain(17) lol, didnt know this stuff about Isaac Newton before, nice list!
I thought Albert Einstein was at n°1. He was a real ***** to his wife and treated her worse than *****.
To add to the Edison / Tesla feud, when Edison used AC current to kill the elephant he had actually soaked the elephant in formaldehyde to make sure he would die, and I think this is even less humane than just executing it
Andrew Jackson’s wife, Rachel, died before he took office as the President of the United States. Andrew’s niece Emily took over most of the duties of the first lady during his presidency. He could have shot someone making a comment over Emily or a remark on his dead wife.
I was expecting Jesus at number one, but I guess we’re going to skip that debate today.
Can you imagine Obama shooting someone on the White House lawn? I thihnk Dubya would have done it.
Awww, why do people always bash Edison? He was a great inventor – better than Tesla. Edison wasnt particularly skilled at maths or science compared to Tesla but he was innovative and always trying things, thats why he invented so much stuff.
Tesla only ever built on stuff that had already been invented, like the electric motor or radio transmission. He actually came up with alternating current when he was working for Edison, based off Edisons earlier ideas for power transmission.
@c man (27): You could say that.
Hi, I don’t usually reply in the negative but this list puzzles me. The collective subject of ‘surprisingly human’ seems lost, and the entries appear loose and almost random. Some have nice long essays of information, others bearly garner a paragraph. Sure, some of these people are examples of being vocal, stubborn or reactionary – but then my dog is also highly vocal, stubborn and also reactionary!
On the up side, I enjoyed the take on AC/DC.
Aristotle may have written “could do better” in red ink.
poor old Isaac Newton, eh !
@Cosmo312
Actually what Edison was good at was hiring other people with great ideas and then making it seem like he was the brain behind. He was a great opportunist, not much of a great inventor.
While I was familiar with his penchant for dueling, I couldn’t remember reading anything about Jackson killing anybody on the Whitehouse lawn. If wiki can be considered a reliable source for this, it states that he was involved in 13 duels that only resulted in one death to his opponent. That duel took place on May 30, 1806. He was in office from 1829-1837, so I believe the facts on this to be a bit embellished. But truly, not a lot of embellishment needed for a guy that dueled 13 times. Jeesh.
It did appear to be over an insult to his wife though.
Can anyone recommend a good book (historical fiction or biographical) about the whole Edison/Tesla feud?
And yes, I know I can google it as well as anyone else – but if anyone knows of a great one off the top of his/her head, I’d love a recommendation or two.
I think Jesus was gay.
I do appreciate the lists (and efforts behind them), but sources would be nice. I can’t find the Aristotle quote anywhere (except at http://lostmymusic.tumblr.com/ and they give no source either).
jfrater – Is listverse being mirrored elsewhere? The identical list can be found at http://www.webdare.net/webdarenet/?p=16254 under your name.
Good list.
On Leonardo Da Vinci: I thought the Chinese invented scissors?
I expected to see Jesus here..
@Marv in DC (37): Hiring them and taking their ideas, or in Teslas case, ignoring them
@Chris (44): Jesus was here, hes everywhere and I think hes gay.
Seems the religious of Franciscan times were as hypocritical as they are today. “I luv de animals” (nom nom nom on de chicky leg).
I don’t much care for the logic in identifying Sir Isaac Newton as a virgin just because his ***** life wasn’t well documented. Not many people’s ***** lives are… oh, wait, damn you Google!
@Jerome (41): You can’t find the Aristotle quote because it doesn’t exist anywhere.
I dont beleive Aristotle ever said this. I double majored in philosophy and have read a huge chunk of Aristotle’s complete works, I never remember coming accross this quote anywhere. Its not in any of his books,and its not in any of my notes. I also called a good buddy of mine who mastered in philosophy and he couldn’t find this quote either.
I will assume one of two things:
first. I will give the author the benefit of the doubt and say that he used some obscure translation of Aristotle’s works that is not famiiar to me. and it appears there (and very strangely worded on top of that)
or
Second. The author copied this quote from an unrealiable source.
Either way unless someone out there can point to a specific quote in ANY of Aristotles works. You can rest assured that those words did not come out of his mouth.
What a truly atrocious list. Why, oh, why are FlameHorse’s lists published. This particular one was supposed to show the human side of these well known people. A worthy idea but horribly implemented.
None of the entries revolve around their human side. Occasionally FlameHorse threw in a sentence (or two if we’re lucky) that was vaguely connected to what this list was meant to be about. Furthermore, FlameHorse has clearly got muddled up between famous peoples’ more human side and quirky facts about them. For example saying Johannes Brahms didn’t like cats shows us very little of his human side, apart from he didn’t like cats.
To rescue this increasingly poor site from oblivion FlameHorse’s and other sub standard list entries must be rejected. They are bringing the standard of this site right down, when it used to be one of the best on the web.
I have read a lot of your lists, and always praised you when I think its good.
Some of them have been off the top shelf well written and reasearched, but this one just – I dont know its just not a list written by the old FlameHorse I knew.
No offence intended.
I would submit that one could take ANY famous person (current or past), look into his or her life and find something “human” or quirky about the person. This wasn’t particularly illuminating.
I had to read the title 4 different times to make sure I had read it right and I kept hoping that rereading it would illuminate for me what the list was atually about. It didn’t. Perhaps a better title for this would be something like “Stories about historical people you probably haven’t heard” or something like that. Regardless, this was a weird list.
And finally, I’m getting really tired of these lists that are now followed by several comments pointing out factual errors. The errors are neither slight nor are they hard to find apparently. This list was all around disappointing.
Show me the sources
Another list with historical errors
I’m with Tesla.
Edison took credit (and registered the patents) for inventions his employees’ came up with.
’nuff said.
Thank Bastet for that Brahms thing being false…
@Rolo Tomasi (49):
I have to agree; I don’t recall any such quote in Aristotle. I seem to vaguely recall a quotation from Plato that was *somewhat* similar, but it sticks in my mind that it had something to do with music studies or some such thing.
A better way to illustrate the “human” side of Aristotle would have been to talk about his hostility to physical experimentation (he believed he was unnecessary and ungentlemanly, and relied instead on pure thought to come to conclusions about questions—which led him to believe, for instance, (if I recall correctly) that two bodies will not fall at an equal rate if dropped from the same height (he’d reasoned that heavier bodies fall faster, which is incorrect, and he never bothered to so much as check this supposition). He also supported slavery as an institution, believing it was the lot of some people, as inferiors, to be enslaved by their “betters.”
SCISSORS WERE INVENTED BACK IN 1500 BC. LONG BEFORE DA VINCI.
Flamehorse, Fact Check next time.
“Jackson beat Lawrence with his cane. They don’t make politicians like that anymore.” Waht about two Jags Prescott!!
Go Chargers!!