10 Possible Resting Places of the Holy Grail
- Published February 8, 2010 by FlameHorse - 211 Comments
The Holy Grail is a sacred object figuring into literature and certain Christian traditions, most often identified with the dish, plate, or cup used by Jesus at the Last Supper and said to possess miraculous powers. Conspiracy theories abound on the nature of the grail and the final location. This list looks at ten of the possible resting places of this mysterious object.
The locals of the Accokeek area claim that a Jesuit priest stowed away on board Captain John Smith’s ship, as he sailed up the Potomac River sometime around 1606-07, and that this priest had ties all the way back to the Knights Templar.
The legend states that he had the Grail for years in England and Europe, possibly taken from #7 when treasure seekers started looking for Arthur’s grave. Somehow the Grail passed down to this nameless priest, who fled for environs where few people would care about the Grail.
Its location in the Accokeek area is not known.
“The Money Pit” was discovered by three teenage boys playing on the island, in 1795, or so the story goes, and over the centuries, 6 people have died attempting to excavated the mysterious treasure everyone is sure is down there.
The longer it took to excavate, the wilder imaginations ran, until today, the Pit is no longer thought to hold merely chests of gold doubloons, but the Holy Grail itself, hidden there by the Knights Templar in the early to mid-1300s.
This is no idle assumption, since there is, in fact, an arrangement of boulders on the island that forms a perfect cross 250 meters long by 100 meters wide, oriented so that the head points due East. It is on the north side of the island in a clearing only 50 square meters larger the cross. The Pit is due south through a woodlot.
The most compelling evidence seems to be the ingenious design of the Pit, which was fitted with a water channel booby trap leading up and out to the open water.
Whatever is down there lies at exactly 100 feet and has been described as “metal in pieces.” They say the mystery will not be resolved until one more person dies in the pit.
One of the legends used by Dan Brown in The Da Vinci Code, this one centers on secret stone chambers and channels under the Collegiate Chapel of St. Matthew, on Roslin Hill, and there are tons of extremely strange carvings in and around the chapel that add ominous weight to this legend.
It was built starting in 1456 at the behest of its founder, William Sinclair, a nobleman and knight. He is rumored to have been a descendant of Knights Templar.
There are carvings of what appear to be Indian corn (maize) around the windows. Maize was unheard of in Europe at the time of the chapel’s construction.
There are carvings of “green men,” which seem to symbolize Celtic traditions regarding spring and summer (pre-Christian).
The Apprentice Pillar is the real stand-out. No one knows why it was carved as it was, and there are no other pillars like it in the chapel, or anywhere in Europe. The chapel’s carvings took 40 years to complete, so they must have been significant to the Sinclair, who died just before they were finished. The legend states that the Grail resides inside the Apprentice Pillar.
Or perhaps in the family crypt under the basement. This crypt is sealed shut. Sealed very well. The Sinclairs still own the chapel and refuse to let anyone go digging up their ancestors (who can blame them?), as this would necessitate tearing down the whole chapel.
Tor is Celtic for “conical hill,” and that is what Clastonbury Tor is. It is said to be the legendary Avalon, King Arthur’s current resting place, while he heals from wounds suffered at the hands of his evil son, Mordred, whom he killed in a duel.
It has been called “Ynys yr Afalon,” Old English for “the Isle of Avalon,” since at least 1100 AD, and tradition states that in 1191, Arthur and Guinevere’s coffins were uncovered at the top of the hill. No evidence exists to support this, but the hill did serve as a fort since the 600s AD.
The Arthurian and Templar legends are inseparable, and the legend goes that the Templars returned from the First Crusade with all the famous Biblical relics, and hid them throughout the British Isles. The Grail was buried somewhere on Glastonbury Tor, perhaps between Arthur and Guinevere’s coffins, the most poetic place.
Legend states that since the Holy Grail was NOT the Holy Chalice, which is correct, it was buried with Jesus somewhere near his Crucifixion site. This site is believed by some to have been a fissure between two rocks, one of which has since eroded away, the other of which is still there to be visited, at the top of the hill on which the Dome of the Rock now sits.
It is sacred to all three monotheistic religions: Judaism holds that Abraham almost slew Isaac on this rock; Christianity holds that Jesus’s cross was planted between this rock and another; Islam holds that Mohammed sprang to Heaven on a horse from this rock.
The Holy Grail is, properly, the cup, bowl, or plate that happened to be near the Cross and catch the blood of Jesus as he died. It was then buried with him, by one of his Disciples, or by his mother, or Joseph of Arimathea, in his tomb. The location of his tomb is not known, but is described in the Bible as nearby, which likely means somewhere on or around the hill.
The Grail may not be lost, but found, and on display to the public for free at the Cathedral of St. Lawrence, in Genoa. This relic is a bowl made of green glass, which was thought to be emerald, until it was broken in the time of Napoleon.
No one knows where it came from, but William of Tyre, in 1170, writes that it first turned up in a mosque in Caesarea, Israel, in 1101. It has not been carbon dated.
Another contender is on display at the Cathedral of St. Mary in Valencia, and this is considered the most likely. Skeptics claim that IF the Grail even exists, the Valencia Chalice is the best bet. It was carbon dated in 1960 to a date of somewhere between the 300s BC and the 100s AD, manufactured in the Middle East, so it is possible. Even if it isn’t the Grail, its age makes it extremely valuable.
It is made of dark red agate, and set in a gold stem, with another, upturned bowl of chalcedony as the base. It is the official Chalice of the Roman Catholic Church.
This legend ties in with the German Grail legend of Munsalvaesche, which is another name for Corbenic, the castle where the Fisher King lived, and where Sir Galahad was born.
“Munsalvaesche” is German for the Latin phrase “mons salvationis,” “the mount of salvation.” “Montserrat,” however, is Catalan for “jagged mountain.” The monastery and abbey are nestled in the mountain, and the Grail is said to be hidden somewhere under the church grounds, or elsewhere on the mountain. If so, it may well never be found, as the terrain is extraordinarily rugged and the mountain is gigantic. The peak, at 4,055 feet, is called
Sant Jeroni, “Saint Jerome,” who features prominently in several Grail legends. He may have traveled to the area in the late 300s AD and hidden the Grail there.
Not the same legend as that of #6, this legend states that the Knights Templar, of the First Crusade, never found either the Grail or the Ark of the Covenant, because the sewer system provided the finest hiding place on Earth at the time. Jerusalem has been attacked many times, and the Jews living at the time of the Ark’s disappearance from the Bible are sure to have lowered it into the sewers to protect it from Nebuchadnezzar, in 586 BC.
The Disciples may have known the location of the Ark and hidden the Grail with it, deep in the sewers, since the Ark had escaped notice for almost 600 years by then. Digging is expressly forbidden except for those professional archaeologists intent on uncovering sites of antiquity, not relic hunters. Digging may undermine the buildings above.
Yes, you read that right. This legend is based on the premise that the Bullion Depository is probably the single most secure place on the planet. Some of its security measures are a mystery, but it is known that no one, not even the President, is allowed on the property, except the U. S. Mint Police stationed inside.
The closest anyone can get to it is Highway 31, about 400 yards from the building. The security consists of multiple fences, the innermost electrified, alarms, cameras, armed guards, and the nearby Fort Knox units: 30,000 active troops who train every day with Apache helicopter gunships, M-1 Abrams tanks, armored personnel carriers and heavy demolition.
This doesn’t account for the unknown security measures, which probably include motion-activated minigun turrets, landmines, pressure sensors, snipers, and that’s before you even get inside.
Awful lot of security for some gold bricks, wouldn’t you say? Unless there are other things inside. The combination to the vault is not known by any one person, but is comprised of 10 combinations, each known by only one official working in the building. There are pistol ranges inside, a gym and dojo, and the vault is lined with solid granite. The gold resides in separate, small rooms each fitted with a solid steel door.
The main vault door is 22 tons of steel and can withstand a direct hit from a 2 kiloton nuclear warhead. The Depository has housed a copy of the Magna Carta, the Hungarian crown jewels, the Crown of St. Stephen, the U. S. Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and various other historical documents from all over the world.
The legend states that there is a special room somewhere in the vault that does not house gold or artifacts such as cited above, but houses, instead, the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant (complete with a “Do Not Touch” sign), satellite pictures proving that the Ararat Anomaly is Noah’s Ark, and the True Cross, complete with dried blood that has been analyzed as consisting of several strains of DNA, one of them encoded not on a double helix, but a triple helix.


























1 Liz
February 8th, 2010 at 1:37 am
Interesting list!
2 tim
February 8th, 2010 at 1:38 am
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3 BravehisTickle
February 8th, 2010 at 1:38 am
Haha- Somewhere in the Jerusaleum sewers..that title made me laugh
4 Leon
February 8th, 2010 at 1:39 am
Great List! What about the French in “Monty Python and the Holy Grail” ???????
5 23redleader
February 8th, 2010 at 1:42 am
hahahahaha @ Leon! love the list!
6 J
February 8th, 2010 at 1:45 am
Conspiracy theory list fail
7 T
February 8th, 2010 at 1:49 am
Very interesting
8 capt Funtime
February 8th, 2010 at 1:52 am
nice, happy monday!!
9 majava
February 8th, 2010 at 1:53 am
Very not interesting at all.
10 Clark
February 8th, 2010 at 1:53 am
cool list!
11 chingpower
February 8th, 2010 at 1:55 am
it’s probably at the Oak island money pit. you can find an article about the pit at http://www.cogitz.com
12 deezer
February 8th, 2010 at 1:55 am
OMG!!! Brilliant, brilliant list!!! So many places it could be! Wanna be stupid and say “ask Indy!”, but won’t! The picture of the Valencia Chalice is just beautiful. Thank you so much. So interesting. D
13 Will
February 8th, 2010 at 1:57 am
I always thought the Holy Grail was located in the Castle of Arrrggghhhh…
14 Pyderz
February 8th, 2010 at 1:58 am
Loved this list
15 BravehisTickle
February 8th, 2010 at 2:04 am
End all discussions- Robert Langdon has stole the Holy Grail
16 Karl
February 8th, 2010 at 2:08 am
Anyone who believed that #1 is the resting place of the Holy Grail is crazy.
17 James
February 8th, 2010 at 2:11 am
Indiana Jones found it in “Raiders of the Lost Ark” ! Maybe you should open your head and find it in your imagination you might find it!
18 Mark
February 8th, 2010 at 2:15 am
Thank you so much, this is a wonderfully entertaining list. Entry number one drew uncontrollable laughter from this reader.
19 Andres
February 8th, 2010 at 2:17 am
Damn, pretty interesting. Outstanding among a streak of really good lists.
20 Dan Brown
February 8th, 2010 at 2:40 am
LMAO! Funny list!
Suckers!!!!!!!!!
21 ned
February 8th, 2010 at 2:43 am
All of them are incorrect. I actually have it but I’m not telling you where it is hidden.
22 Jesus
February 8th, 2010 at 2:44 am
I took it with me to heaven! My sheep don’t waste your time finding it, i hvae to drik form the holy grail!
23 Jaryuki
February 8th, 2010 at 2:47 am
Some say Holy Grail doesn’t actually exist. I thought so too until I was told what it does. Explains why my teacup is never getting empty.
24 ned
February 8th, 2010 at 2:56 am
@Jaryuki (22): Hang on a minute! If you’ve got it, what’s my begonia sitting in?!
25 Firefly
February 8th, 2010 at 2:56 am
Please tell me how you can carbon date inorganic material (the Valencia Chalice in number 4)? Because I had always been led to believe that carbon dating could only be carried out on organic remains (plants, animals, humans). Fission track dating could be used to date the glass plate mentioned in number 5. I do like fairy tales though.
26 63jax
February 8th, 2010 at 2:57 am
…how could something is resting if it never existed,lool.
27 Jody
February 8th, 2010 at 3:00 am
Very very interesting list! I want to look more into #10 – The U. S. Bullion Repository. It would be a shame if there really were all of those historical artificats hidden away from the world, regardless of their religious connections.
28 Jomm
February 8th, 2010 at 3:01 am
Isn’t it obvious? It’s under the president’s pillow! And he kisses it good night every day for good luck.
Good list, good list!
29 BravehisTickle
February 8th, 2010 at 3:05 am
@Jody (26): It’s not #10,it’s #1
30 Ny
February 8th, 2010 at 3:07 am
I like the Fort Knox one… they do seem to have something to hide, don’t they?
31 c man
February 8th, 2010 at 3:11 am
good list but i think no.1 is bull !!!
32 Jew
February 8th, 2010 at 3:13 am
Too Christian!
33 c man
February 8th, 2010 at 3:15 am
of course a jew would say that it deals fundamentally with christ who was a false prophet to the eys of a jew
34 c man
February 8th, 2010 at 3:22 am
i think the holy grail is at my house, i drink from it and it nevr spills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
35 Jesus
February 8th, 2010 at 3:28 am
Awww come on people!! I thought santa claus was lying when he said that this list sucks. But it did!! You people are sick. Why do you want a cup that was used to fill my blood??
What happen to all my teachings?? You guys are not cool.
36 WiseMenSay
February 8th, 2010 at 3:32 am
Fort Knox? ha! everyone knows Gringotts is more secure, its probably in there
37 errrrr
February 8th, 2010 at 3:35 am
hahaha @ jew.
is it just me or are the lists on this site getting stupider every day?
38 Is this even earth
February 8th, 2010 at 3:38 am
Tachyons!!!
39 G-man
February 8th, 2010 at 3:40 am
So, if it holy why not show me it, so I can start believing?
Or is that too easy?
40 jojoinhere
February 8th, 2010 at 3:54 am
and next we want to talk about the 10 Possible Resting Places of Mjöllnir, the sacred object of viking…
41 majava
February 8th, 2010 at 4:07 am
24 Firefly. Essentially carbon tracing tells us when a organic material has stopped living. Or, in this case, when was the tree cut down and made into a cup.
42 Geronimo
February 8th, 2010 at 4:07 am
not a double helix…but a triple helix……so that one statement combines three apocryphal concepts into one….
43 Arsnl
February 8th, 2010 at 4:15 am
@Firefly (24): Oh thats a funny one. How can you carbon date something that hasnt any carbon. Agate and chalcedony are silicas (SiO2) so no carbon there and gold well its a metal. This carbon dating on things that do not contain carbon remind me of some stupid movies like Good Will Hunting where the “genius” did some basic math (undergraduate level at some points) and it appeared like he was freakkin euler or i dont know other genius. I can imagine that the surface can be analysed on a microscope and checked for what types of tools were used to manufacture and polish the surface. That could helo determine the date i think. Wiki says they havent checked for “surface recrystallization”.
On another note should i dare asking how you are doing?
Ps:”The pellet with the poison’s in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true!”
@c man (33): i remember that line from dexter’s laboratory:))
44 Czirro
February 8th, 2010 at 4:17 am
Ugh, it’s the The U.S. Bullion Depository, not Repository.
Other than that, very good list.
45 tarachowski
February 8th, 2010 at 4:20 am
If there are so many places where it might be then why oh why isn’t anyone allowed to just look? Surely if it was found (along with these “miraculous qualities”) then everyone would be forced to accept proof of Christ and that would be that. I know, I should have Faith blah blah blah…but still, if you reckon there’s proof, why not at least try to show it? I love a good treasure hunt and this would be the mother of all bounties!
46 Beki710
February 8th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Really interesting list – love this kind of thing!
47 kalisana
February 8th, 2010 at 4:24 am
You forgot to mention the church of Saint Mary of Zion in Axum, Ethiopia.
48 dalinean
February 8th, 2010 at 4:43 am
There are people who take this kind of stuff seriously;
It’s a sad world.
49 Armodillotron
February 8th, 2010 at 4:50 am
Well, I don`t know about The Holy Grail, but I know where The Ark of The Covenant is meant to be. The archeologist Ron Wyatt, said The Ark is “somewhere in Palestine,” but he died. So no one knows. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church, says they have it, and it`s also rumoured to be in Warwickshire.
50 Jesus of Nazareth
February 8th, 2010 at 4:50 am
The Holy Grail is tired and is resting ! What a bunch of
idiots i left behind????
s a v e m e f a t h e r f r o m t h e i d i o c y o f t h e i d i o t s!
51 James Smith
February 8th, 2010 at 5:02 am
When one considers that all religions are nonsense, why even have a list about a non-existent object whose exact nature and characteristics are hotly disputed between religions?
A waste of your time, Mr. Frater.
52 oouchan
February 8th, 2010 at 5:11 am
Well, we know the fake one was the beacon which is grail shaped at Casle Anthrax. I guess that’s close enough, since we never did manage to find Castle Argggghhhhh!
Interesting list.
53 Lily
February 8th, 2010 at 5:13 am
I find the Money Pit interesting from articles I’ve read. I truely wonder what’s hidden down there :S
Kinda freaky.
54 nicoleredz3
February 8th, 2010 at 5:48 am
Never thought about this… Cool!
55 mom424
February 8th, 2010 at 5:54 am
Good list Flamehorse. I’m surprised to see Oak Island on the list; Pirate treasure (not likely – as if Pirates saved money for a later date – they lived fierce, spent freely, and died young)is the only thing I’ve heard speculated to be at the bottom of that pit. Personally I think it likely to be like a chinese box puzzle or similar; the reward is in the figuring it out, not the contents.
I too was expecting some mention of the Church in Axum, Ethiopia; makes way more sense that either Fort Knox or Oak Island. At least both those places are on the correct side of the globe eh? That area was not dirt-poor waaay back in the day – they had Kings and riches and a developed civilization.
56 get a clue
February 8th, 2010 at 6:14 am
Fun to read, amusing to speculate. But in the end to even care you have to choose to believe in magic over reality and force yourself to look away from the millions murdered in the name of this god or that god and whose relics are more magical.
I especially LOL’d at the phrase “the official Chalice of the Roman Catholic Church.” What’s their official toaster pasty, Pop Tarts?
57 ringtailroxy
February 8th, 2010 at 6:18 am
sorry Flamehorse, just not your best work. well-written, but the subject matter is flaky, at best.
The Holy Grail? The Ark of the Covenant? for real? If such things ever existed,(which they may have, in physical form, but lacking any supernatural effects ascribed to them) there certainly where a great many counterfeit ones made by artisans of the day to entice the curious (and ignorant) to flock to whatever particular parish they where said to be held at!
i can remember when i was a young, born-again Christian (yes, i can admit it, i wasn’t always a skeptical atheist), and i was given, as a gift, a piece of dark, semi-decomposed wood tied onto a leather thong as a necklace, from a missionary whom went to Jerusalem. i was told it was an authentic piece of Christ’s cross and to cherish it always.
i actually thought it was just some chintzy tourist gift.
even then i was skeptical…
58 cyph3rlunch
February 8th, 2010 at 6:21 am
well im not too sure about the bullion but hey who knows, man before i die i would want to go there or meet someone who has seen those montains of gold man it has to be a sight to remember….
59 Allie
February 8th, 2010 at 6:27 am
Great list! Very interesting.
60 JUNQUEMAN
February 8th, 2010 at 6:46 am
IN RE TO #1 on the list, RIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!! Ahem, OK, lets get back to more serious matters like, too American or too Christian.
61 CannonJack
February 8th, 2010 at 6:49 am
It’s residing up the back side of Pat Robertson. Or it should be shoved there, at least.
62 Lifeschool
February 8th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Hi, an interesting list today – most of these I had read about but some of the wild cards I certainly had not. Fort Knox indeed
I always wanted to visit Rosslyn Chapel after I found it featured significantly in Mark Chadbourn’s Age Of Misrule trilogy of fantasy novels. I’d recommend having a look at their web site – the ornate carvings are jaw dropping even in pictures. Sadly, the last time I visited Edinburgh I didn’t get the chance to see it – but I did climb Arthurs Seat (also featured in the novels).
Like many passages printed in the Bible, it has been debated for years what the Holy Grail is supposed to be. Some philosophers tend to lean towards it being a metaphor for The Soul – the cup of life – the ever flowing cradle of immortality. Others speculate the Grail is the royal bloodline (famously by Dan Brown) and is the lineage of Christ. Some say the Grail is merely the Truth – or the promise of the Truth – always just out of reach. Archaeologists may see it as a material item – such as a [wooden] cup used for drinking, very common in those times. While science, and many other people of course, see it purely as a myth, a story, a magical item of fantasy. So! A search for The Grail depends first of all on what you think it is, and therefore where you look for it.
BTW, didn’t James Bond get inside Fort Knox in Goldfinger?
63 quber
February 8th, 2010 at 7:07 am
I think you definately got number 1 wrong, at the moment the most likely place for it is in Ethiopia, as mentioned above, could this be entered at least as a bonus item.
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/ethiopia/axum-ark-of-covenant
64 Lifeschool
February 8th, 2010 at 7:07 am
Oh yeah, a link to some Rosslyn Chapel art is:
http://www.rosslynchapel.org.uk/history.php
Pucture #10 gives you the best idea of what’s inside.
65 yojimbo
February 8th, 2010 at 7:11 am
@Lifeschool (61): “The recreation of the Fort Knox repository at Pinewood Studios was incredibly accurate considering no one involved in the film had been allowed inside the real location for security reasons. The set looked so real that a 24-hour guard was placed on the Fort Knox set at Pinewood Studios so that pilferers would not steal the gold bar props. A letter to the production from the Fort Knox Controller congratulated Ken Adam and his team on the recreation. Auric Goldfinger’s 3D Model Map used for his Operation Grandslam is now housed as a permanent exhibition at the real Fort Knox.”
You got that wrong!
66 arm66
February 8th, 2010 at 7:20 am
One day the Holy Grail will turn up on Antiques Roadshow.
67 msgsudz
February 8th, 2010 at 7:21 am
well ok then. *yawns*
68 ames801
February 8th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Cool list. Even if you don’t believe in The Holy Grail-the mysteries behind most of these locations is interesting enough.
69 MouseintheHouse
February 8th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Put aside your thoughts about Christianity for a minute. I want to just analyze the events as they are told. I am confident the ListVerse forum will put this mystery to rest once and for all.
It is understood from the New Testament that at the time of the Last Supper, the disciples didn’t immediately know the significance of the event (the first Communion). The whole event didn’t make sense or materialize until the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ and how the whole sequence of events fit into Passover. After the crucifixion and resurrection, the disciples put the whole picture together and WHAM!, they finally understood Christ’s role in Passover, which included the Last Supper as one of the many events (20/20 hind site).
So, if the Last Supper attendees didn’t immediately know the whole significance of the Last Supper, why would someone save the grail? If anyone saved it, they probably took it off the table during cleaning, packed it away, and didn’t give it a whole lot of thought – no more or less thought than you would give your holiday utensils.
A fun little conspiratorial mystery which has absolutely no impact one way or the other regarding a persons faith, or lack of faith. Complete adiaphora!
Anyway, fun list, Flamehourse! Thanks for your lists. You’re a very busy writer.
70 Gabriel
February 8th, 2010 at 7:49 am
This list is too european.
It sucks… XD
LOL! Just kidding.
Nice one.
71 Cubone
February 8th, 2010 at 7:50 am
VERY COOL LIST!
72 weedefinition
February 8th, 2010 at 7:53 am
I really wish this site would censor itself a little more. A list like the one above is not only Idiotic and rooted in fiction, but it is also thoroughly boring
73 zagga
February 8th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Does anyone else think that the final resting place of the ark, cross or the grail being in America is a bit too uncle sam? I realise its not the authors fault, but still…
74 ZedroZ
February 8th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Love this list, i’m not a “believer” in any particular religion myself but artifacts such as the Ark of the Covenant or the Holy Grail make brilliant stories.
Sort of the ultimate conspiracy theory, Christianity could confirm all that they preach to the non believers by excavating some of these sites.
Will it ever happen? Of course not! Faith would not be called faith if it had to be proved
75 Jordan
February 8th, 2010 at 8:14 am
being a nova scotian, I have enjoyed several references to my tiny province, mainly the ones regarding the oak island money pit. of all of the local lore surrounding it, i have never actually heard the claim of it being the final resting place of the holy grail.
76 Dionysus
February 8th, 2010 at 8:15 am
I was sure that the holly grail is in USA. Probably you would say that Jesus was born in US as well.
77 lee
February 8th, 2010 at 8:16 am
interesting :]
78 msulli222
February 8th, 2010 at 8:17 am
This list is one of the more interesting ones in a while. I am not Christian, but I appreciate the subject matter and work put into this list.
79 FUBAR
February 8th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Deaner: This is the real shit man, just like fuc*in’ Merlin
Ferral: Merlin wasn’t real…
Deaner: Fuc* Merlin’s real, he fuc*in’ led King Henry’s army!
Ferral: Merlin was a fable…
Deaner: Yeah it’s a fable, a fable’s based on fuc*in’ history
80 bucslim
February 8th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Never understood what the big whoop-de-doo is about the cup that Jesus drank out of at the last supper. What about the last plate He ate off of? The fork, knife, spoon, salad fork, napkin? How come we don’t go looking for them? What about the last check? Perhaps Judas, who had some extra change jingling around his pocket, picked up the tab. And once we find them, then what? Hey! We found the shoe lace that came from Jesus’ Air Sandal, Wheeeeee! We’re awesome! We also found the tool box He used in carpentry and the roof He worked on. And here’s some of the wine He changed from water! If this stuff is so important, you’d think that Jesus or Mary would appear in someone’s bagel or toast or arrangement of shrubs would at least point us in the right direction to go find it.
There’s been a couple of smashing movies and gripping novels about it, but it all boils down to a lot of hoo-hah and hullabaloo over nothing if you ask me. Seriously, if the cup is such a big deal we ought to be looking for at least the fork. Make that a quest, because if you eat a piece of broccoli or pot roast with the fork that Jesus ate with, then, . . then ah, . . . well I don’t know what happens.
If we’re not careful, we might just ignore what He said and did. Which is what most of us are doing now anyway.
81 Pymondon
February 8th, 2010 at 8:35 am
@bucslim (80):A ejaculation of a top notch skeptical mind!
82 Arsnl
February 8th, 2010 at 8:39 am
@bucslim (80): your comment brings nothing new to the table. Yes the last supper table.
you forgot to search for that one.
83 undaunted warrior
February 8th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Unusual list, I would not like to go into # 9 on a dark rainy night – Thanks Flamehorse.
84 Randall
February 8th, 2010 at 8:42 am
@undaunted warrior (83):
Didn’t you have some question for me? A while back? I never heard back from you.
85 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
February 8th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Interesting list. I liked the buildings in 5 and 6.
@weedefinition (71): Why you can’t enjoy fiction?
86 Randall
February 8th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Flamehorse:
Good list. One point needs making:
All that security and armored might at Fort Knox is not there to simply guard the gold, doofus. Fort Knox is, in fact, an actual Army BASE. It just happens that it was decided, long ago, to house the nation’s gold supply there. But it has always been an army base, like any other army base in every other respect. Consequently, all those troops aren’t there just to protect the gold. They’re there because that’s where they’re stationed.
87 Randall
February 8th, 2010 at 8:48 am
@bucslim (80):
I have Jesus’ car keys. He left ‘em at my place a while back during a party. Any idea where I can reach him?
Sorry… had no idea his cup was so valuable. I just tossed it. I mean, a plastic cup with a smeg of bear still lolling around in the bottom? Who wants that? I mean, for chrissakes…. I mean… Hissakes… the cup has what looks like bits of *beard* in it. Somebody’s gonna drink outta this again? Yick.
88 Randall
February 8th, 2010 at 8:49 am
WHOOPS… screwed up the joke. That was supposed to say “smeg of BEER…” not “smeg of bear.” Although I guess that’s funny too. Or weird. Or whatever.
89 ZedroZ
February 8th, 2010 at 8:50 am
@ Bucslim Maybe I have my facts wrong, I apologise unreservedly if I do, but wasn’t the the Holy Grail said to have caught Christs blood as he died on the cross?
Thus making his cheese knife or soup dish somewhat redundent in value? I always thought it was the fact that it caught his blood made it as sought after as it is…
Then again im an athiest so what do I know?
Later folks
90 bucslim
February 8th, 2010 at 8:56 am
@Arsnl (82):
Ok, Mister Snootypants, point taken. You’re probably just jealous anyway.
@Randall (86):
Aren’t you forgetting about Operation Grandslam? Shit man, give Pussy a few drums of goofy gas – she could do a few loop-de-loops and we we could get in there to take a look around ourselves. Fort Knox AND Pussy!
@Randall (87):
I’m just saying, what’s all the rumpus about a damn dixie cup?
91 bucslim
February 8th, 2010 at 9:00 am
@Randall (88):
Smeg of bear is not funny, it’s something you see a urologist about.
92 katrusa
February 8th, 2010 at 9:01 am
In the name of the father, the son and in the hole he goes: This list is a moronic attempt to keep the dumb sheep interested in the mystery of something ! Looking for something that must always be hidden ,where the hell nobody knows! It is deepest mystery of the universe, God acts in the mysterious ways ! Name of a religion which has not lost anything sacred and they are not looking for it ,while the all knowing God guides them!
93 rubysshoes
February 8th, 2010 at 9:13 am
first of all…who cares if its fact or fiction? its still incredibly fascinating to see the scenarios the human mind invents when the truth is not readily available. a real estate office in Maryland, indeed.
secondly, what if the whole thing is true? what if, somewhere on this Earth, maybe just a few miles away from you, the greatest historical treasure of all time was just waiting for someone to rediscover it? how cool would that be?
94 Randall
February 8th, 2010 at 9:15 am
@bucslim (90):
Fort Knox AND Pussy? mmmmmm… but have you noticed nearly everything goes with Pussy? She’s such a good sport, after all.
Re: the cup: TELL ME ABOUT IT. And to be perfectly truthful, it wasn’t even a Dixie Cup. I bought some no-name knock-off brand at Maine’s Party Supply. So… what’s the deal? Jesus touches it and it’s gold now? Shoulda had him touch my #%*@.
(Yup! There it is! I just heard the bell go off… I have officially guaranteed myself that sticky bench in Hell, right next to Richard Simmons and John Tesh).
95 Scratch
February 8th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Flamehorse is back.
Good list – well-researched, well-written, and interesting.
96 undaunted warrior
February 8th, 2010 at 9:21 am
@Randall(84)
Yes I did Im one of those people that likes finding anwsers to questions.
A few weeks ago I posted a reply to you regarding the crabs , spiders etc. their lungs and sizes they grow to.
You replied that does not anwser your question you needed extra info.
For the life of me I cant recall on what day it was, even going into the archives I cant find it.
If you are still interested in this topic, let me know with whatever questions you may have.
Thanks for the post.
97 Pizzaaaa
February 8th, 2010 at 9:22 am
am i the only one to find the typo in the title for number 1. it’s the The U. S. Bullion Depository. not the The U. S. Bullion Repository
98 WhiteDragon
February 8th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Haven’t read all the comments so not sure if someone said this yet or not. If you go to http://www.knox.army.mil/ the official website of Fort Knox you’ll noticed their “symbol”…that pyramid in the background (complete with fancy lights coming out the side) look awfully familiar from a lot of other conspiracy theories…one dollar bill anyone? *(yes, yes I know perhaps they did take the symbol form the $1 because it is our currency and they are the bullion depository and there is no conspiracy theory but just humor me… ;P )
99 ames801
February 8th, 2010 at 9:25 am
@Randall (94): Tsk, tsk, tsk…I was not ready for all of this so early in the week.
100 WhiteDragon
February 8th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Oh and good list!
101 Randall
February 8th, 2010 at 9:27 am
@undaunted warrior (96):
I was curious how it is that crabs can apparently live both in and out of water. They’re evidently able to handle both environments.
102 WhiteDragon
February 8th, 2010 at 9:28 am
And I suppose I should maybe wake up before I post…yes I am aware that that website leads to Fort Knox Army and not Fort Knox bullion depository… 0.o
103 Diogenes
February 8th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Ha, I knew Jesus was a triple helix freak all along!
Aint no mention of the Nazis huh? For shame.
If yall didn’t catch it on Channel4 or PBS, there’s always the übertube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWb8g6X59NM&feature=related
most highly recommended.
104 Lion
February 8th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Maybe the time has come that US should sell all that gold in Fort Knox to get out of economic troubles!
105 bucslim
February 8th, 2010 at 9:45 am
@Randall (101):
First bear smeg and now crabs? Damn, what the hell happened this weekend? Friend, you get what you pay for, if those goats are scooting their rear ends all over the pasture it’s time for you to move on.
106 undaunted warrior
February 8th, 2010 at 9:47 am
@Randall(101) Give me a wee while I will find the anwser.
And I promise to spell your name Randall and not Randell in future.
107 Dan Alsop
February 8th, 2010 at 9:50 am
In accordance to number 1 (Fort Knox) With all that security, it seems the perfect place for the NWO (New World Order) to meet up. think about it
108 Randall
February 8th, 2010 at 9:58 am
@bucslim (106):
The goats are teases. And I have a… compulsion.
109 Kooter
February 8th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Anyone who doesn’t believe in this list is an uneducated and unintelligent piece of shit fool.
sincerely yours, KOOTER
110 bucslim
February 8th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Nothing like a guy named Kooter to come in here and set the record straight. I guess we have been served.
111 Diogenes
February 8th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Uh, go to hell SaintAnger.
112 gav
February 8th, 2010 at 10:14 am
What I wonder is why someone would catch the blood of christ in a Big Gulp cup and what did they plan on doing with it? What did they do with it? Pass it around for people to drink? That blood went somewhere before burying the cup. Maybe, if we could find that blood then we can create a theme park with giant Jesuses behind electric fences.
Jesus, born of a virgin and has a TRIPLE helix DNA strand? My head hurts just thinking about that. Christians have a hard enough time reconciling the dinosaurs.
113 SaintAnger
February 8th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Jesus had no Y chromosome which means he had no dick either! Jesus was a shemale!
Why Jesus is a claimed to have a triple helixed DNA ?
one strand for father
one strand for the son
& one for the holy ghost!
Just like that shit about water having three states liquid ,solid & gas!
114 Randall
February 8th, 2010 at 10:18 am
@bucslim (111):
Served what? Possum stew? With some moonshine?
115 Julius
February 8th, 2010 at 10:26 am
If the holy grail ever existed, it definetely wouldn’t be anything shiny, most likely a wooden cup or some pottery…so if you find the place where its hidden dont drink out of the shiny one drink out of the simple one (Indiana Jones anybody
!
Its most likely a metaphor for something, like pretty much everything in the bible….
@SaintAnger (114): yeah i heard he could shoot lasers out of his eyes too!
116 Julius
February 8th, 2010 at 10:31 am
@gav (113): What do you think they wanted to do, clone him of course! if angelina jolie was bleeding somehow i would definitely try to score some of that!
117 Groogle
February 8th, 2010 at 10:49 am
#1 is just retarded. I mean, even if i were to believe the holy grail thingie that’s just too far out.
118 qwerty
February 8th, 2010 at 10:51 am
the biggest crime in the history of forever would be when the place from #1 is robbed. anyone thinking of it?
119 lemonpledge
February 8th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Give me a break, there is no freakin way that stuff is in KENTUCKY. Not a chance.
120 Amanda
February 8th, 2010 at 11:04 am
When I visited Glastonbury a few years ago, we were told that Arthur and his wife weren’t buried on the tor itself but nearby at the Glastonbury Abbey. The Abbey has a neat little sign that states that the slab of rock behind it is the resting place of King Arthur and that he has since been dug up and reburied. The site of the Holy Grail was nearby just below the tor. A fountain runs out of the ground and turns all the rocks and ground nearby red because the mineral content. Supposedly the grail is underground and is the reason the water does this. There is also a healing pool and a place you can “recharge” crystals. They sell containers to put the water in, but you can use anything. We used a glass water bottle. The tor is on a path above the fountain. It’s very steep and I don’t recommend trying to get a baby stroller up it as the sides are crazy and there are no guard rails.
That’s not to say you’re wrong about the legend, it’s just not the one they tell you at the actual site. With so many Grail legends floating around, who can really say?
121 Clark
February 8th, 2010 at 11:31 am
@SaintAnger (105): Yeah, just go away man.
122 davidm
February 8th, 2010 at 11:43 am
first list where Dan Brown’s name was used and JFrater didn’t make some stupid snide comment. Thanks!
123 MamaBear2Cubs
February 8th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
I read this verbatim list before.
http://terselubung.blogspot.com/2010/02/10-possible-resting-places-of-holy.html
It’s an interesting list though, I thought so the first time I read it.
124 lrigD
February 8th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Very good list! I´ve become somewhat interested in the Holy Grail ever since the Da Vinci Code. But I still didn´t know a thing about it…
I´m thinking the money spent on the U. S. Bullion Repository could´ve had much better use though…
125 Scratch
February 8th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
@davidm (123):
Give him time, I’m all for snide comments aimed at Dan Brown.
126 antipatros
February 8th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
I’m pretty sure that Ynys yr Afalon is Welsh, not Old English.
127 Alencon
February 8th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Two points.
The first is that the overwhelming probability is that the so-called “Holy Grail” doesn’t exist.
The second is that the U.S. Bullion Repository doesn’t contain the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant, satellite pictures proving that the Ararat Anomaly is Noah’s Ark (because it isn’t), or the True Cross, complete with dried blood that has a triple helix.
Hell, I’m not sure it contains any bullion anymore. It might be empty except for the odd fly buzzing around.
128 Clockwork
February 8th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
@Alencon (128): True, it has been proven that the Ararat Anomoly is definitely not Noah’s Ark.
129 Gregory
February 8th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Complete rubbish list, cheers.
130 JK III
February 8th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Only read No.1, and I stand amazed. Robbing banks is for pussies, rob that place if you have real guts.
Now I am waiting for a movie involving the Bullion Depository and a bunch of high-tech thieves(if there isn’t one already).
131 MagpieMagic
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Good list. Although as an aetheist I dont think the holy grail will ever be found because it doesnt exist.
Although just incase God does exist Hes great isnt He? (I like to keep my bases covered)
132 Omega
February 8th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
We could always text Cha-Cha and find out its hidden whereabouts.
133 Glass
February 8th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
It’s in the Canyon of the Crescent Moon.
134 BishopWhiteT
February 8th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
It was already found:
Holy Grail Found On eBay
(DM, 03/06/2004 2:27 PM)
After centuries of searching, the elusive Holy Grail, often considered the ‘Holy Grail’ of religious artifacts, was dicovered on eBay by a forty-member archeological team that was made up of top NASA scientists, students from Stanford University and sponsored by Doritos® brand snack chips.
“Throughout modern history, man has sought the Holy Grail”, said Shmelman’s School of Hair and Nails Professor Harley Sparkle. “I thought I saw it one time at a garage sale, but that turned out to be a Burger King collectible drinking glass.”
The team has traveled the entire globe searching for the cup reportedly used by Jesus Christ at the Last Supper. “From Israel to Indiana, we have traveled the globe searching for the cup reportedly used by Jesus Christ at the Last Supper.” said one team member who died during the expedition after eating some bad fish. Surviving team members said, “This victory really belongs to those that have passed in it’s making. Charlie, and Charles, and Chuck, and that other guy, and the twins, and that old dude that died when the bungee cord was too long.”
The team, dubbed the “Grail’s Angels” by this one guy I know, estimates it has spent over 40 million dollars to find the yellow plastic drinking cup of Jesus, and the search has cost the priceless lives of at least 4,789 people, 2 dogs, and a ferret.
Doritos® spokesman George Hamilton was credited for actually finding the Grail, after he logged on to eBay hoping to find a copy of his classic 1979 film “Love at First Bite’ on RCA laserdisc. From his Hollywood garden shed he told the tale, “I was looking for a copy of my classic 1979 film “Love at First Bite’ on RCA laserdisc, so I browsed throught the categories to ‘Everything Else > Weird Stuff > Slightly Unusual’ and right there under ‘Sponsored Matches’ was the Holy Grail. I heard from Gus Mixalot over at Doritos® something about 4,789 people, 2 dogs and a ferret getting killed over some ‘Grail thing’, so I gave him a call. It turned out to be just what they wanted.”
The Grail’s Angels have since relisted the item on eBay, along with a certificate of authenticity and a bonus cellphone antennae booster.
135 DoesItReallyMatter
February 8th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Terrible list. Same goes for the lame, brain dead comments, but what else is new…
136 Julius
February 8th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
@BishopWhiteT (136): if you’ve want some other way to waste your time you can always clean my flat!
137 deeeziner
February 8th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
@MamaBear2Cubs (124): I clicked on your link…yep same list. When I clicked on “older comments” at that site up came my recent list that Jamie published.
Apparently the site you have found likes to plagiarize others efforts.
So I would rest assured that FlameHorse IS the author of the list that you reference.
138 Kay
February 8th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
I think #2 or in some random persons house.
139 Mabel
February 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
@WiseMenSay (35): + 10 for the Harry Potter reference.
140 MagpieMagic
February 8th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
@doesitreallymatter (137) if you dont like the lists/comments why read them?
141 deeeziner
February 8th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
An interesting read FlameHorse. I’ve always loved a treasure hunt story, though I do have some doubts about the Grail still surviving. Perhaps if it has been kept hidden in one place all this time, as opposed to repeated travels and hidings, it will be revealed some day.
Can’t say I’ve ever heard any scuttlebutt about the entry for Maryland.
As for Oak Island, I try to keep up on any new info about the place. The mystery has intrigued me since I was a young teen. If it’s not the Grail at the bottom of the pit, whatever it turns out to be will be interesting.
I hope I’m still alive when they do discover the “prize”.
All the religious sites seem like just another ploy to be the “one” most holy spot on Earth. And another attempt to keep the Grail hidden by playing the odds. Kind of like 3 Card Monty.
To those who want to sound off about Fort Knox being out of the running… Isn’t it possible that the place could be housing a couple of priceless treasures of foreign countries at the request of those countries?
I will admit I was charmed by the Rosslyn Chapel and visited their websitem but that’s just the artist in me.
Now a serious question. Why couldn’t the Grail exist, even if a person who doubts is an atheist? We’re talking about an artifact linked to a person who has been proven historically to have existed…not about the existence of God.
The Dixie cup comedy is great, and I’m just as dubious about the sanitary nature of bear smegs as the next guy…but why can’t there be a Holy Grail?
About it’s “miraculous” power though….please.
142 Denizen
February 8th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
What about that temple in ethiopia that likes to tell everyone they have it without letting anyone in to see it?
143 Clockwork
February 8th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
@deeeziner (140): It’s really sad how rampant plagiarism is on the internet. I’ve seen listverse lists on other sites and the original source is not referenced. The latest one I saw was 10 Gamblers Who Beat The Casinos.
144 Alice
February 8th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
I think Number 4 forgot to watch Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. If they did they would know that Jesus was a simple man and would never drink from an embellished golden chalice.
145 Chas
February 8th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Re #7, the bodies of Arthur and Guinevere was actually discovered, according to legend (but more likely propaganda instigated by the incumbents of Glastonbury Abbey) in the grounds of the Abbey just south of the Lady Chapel.On the order of the king, excavations were carried out and, seven feet beneath the surface, they found an inscribed leaden cross with the words ‘Hic Iacit Sepultus Inclitus Rex Artorius In Insula Avalonia’ translating as ‘Here lies the body of the renowned King Arthur in the Island of Avalon’. Digging further, an oak coffin was found which contained the bones of a very tall man, and at his feet the curled up skeleton of a small woman with a lock of golden hair, which crumbled at a touch.
The Holy Grail is reputed to be buried in Chalice Well, which lies just to the North West of the Tor, and is the source of the Red Spring which legend says runs red with the blood from the Holy Grail.
=:~)
146 FlameHorse
February 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Since everyone thinks I actually believe that the grail can heal bullet wounds, a la Sean Connery in The Lasht Crushade, let me just say that I don’t believe that, and I expect that the Grail was made of wood or stone, being the cup of a carpenter, who never bought or sold anything, and either borrowed it from someone else, or made it himself.
I would like to get into Fort Knox, though. I find it VERRRY intriguing that the Federal Reserve Bank of NYC has much less security, and much more gold, than Fort Knox.
147 FlameHorse
February 8th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
@deeeziner (140): I’m FAMOUS! Hooooooo!
148 astroboy
February 8th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Nice list…but the entire concept of the Holy Grail is ridiculous. Then again, I believe the entire concept of Christianity is ridiculous!
Love the comments by bucslim (80)…think Jesus’ toothpick could be worth tracking down also.
Best part of the list (which I’m surprised no one seems to have commented on) is the DOJO in Fort Knox!?!? WTF!
149 Julius
February 8th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
@deeeziner (144): It is not historically proven that jesus existed, a lot of the “sources” about jesus were frauds. Right now I think there are 2 sources that account for him and historians are not sure if they are legit. Also the most important historian of that age, Herodot never even mentioned him, although he was in palestine at the alleged time of jesus working.
I am not trying to take away someones faith, I just find this extremely weird…
150 deeeziner
February 8th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
@FlameHorse (149): Me too?!?
151 Chris
February 8th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Very interesting stuff. Some people take things too seriously. It really doesn’t matter if the Holy Grail’s existence is debated. This site makes for interesting reading. It doesn’t need to contain serious, peer reviewed research to make it worthy of reading. I love a good adventure. If I had the time and money I would spend my time treasure hunting and adventuring.
152 deeeziner
February 8th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
@Julius (151): It has become apparent to me that the subject of Jesus’s historical accurateness is just as debated as the subject of God’s existence.
Although I have no clue about God, I choose to believe in the historical existence of Jesus. But that’s just me.
And I guess that’s an answer to my own question. Of sorts.
153 Julius
February 8th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
@deeeziner (154): I also believe in the historical jesus and I like his teachings, from a philosophical point of view. I doubt somebody collected the blood dripping from a sidewound with a cup though. Its probably a metaphor, like most stories in the bible.
154 GiantFlyingRobo
February 8th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Psssh! Everyone knows its in Hayat! Gosh, didn’t you guys watch The Last Crusade?
155 nuriko
February 8th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
… hhhmmm…
156 gay list
February 8th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
wow the quality of this site has gone waay down
157 astroboy
February 8th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Then why not write your own list and improve the quality, gay list (158)???
158 Struth
February 8th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
@Will (13): That would be St.Ives in Cornwall, pronounced from the back of the throat.
159 Randall
February 8th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
@Julius (151):
Julius, if ignorance were tits, you’d be Dolly Parton.
For the umpteenth time—we have little DIRECT evidence for ANYONE from the ancient world. Proof, rather, is through CONVERGENT evidence. And there is a great deal of convergent evidence for the existence of a real person we know as Jesus. You want to know more, go READ something instead of just assuming you know what you’re talking about. Because trust me, you don’t.
Oh, and by the way, knucklehead… Herodotus, the great Greek historian, predated Jesus by nearly FIVE HUNDRED YEARS. He therefore could not have been hanging around in Palestine when Jesus was operating. It’d be a neat trick if he had.
You’ve perhaps confused Herodotus with HEROD, which is the name of a family of kings of the Jews at the time of the Roman occupation.
In any case, it’s amazing that instead of looking this rather obvious stuff up, you choose to base your opinions on a complete absence of knowledge.
160 Iakhovas
February 8th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Wow, a lot of people seem to be confusing the Holy Grail with the Ark of the Covenant as far as the Ethiopia location goes. And it might interest people to know that the “Holy Grail” is not mentioned in the Bible as anything significant or having any miraculous powers. It’s just some kind of invented Church tradition, about as realistic as King Arthur and Merlin.
161 Julius
February 8th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
No need to be rude. I admit that I was wrong with Herodotus,I confused him with Josephus, but the fact is that we know very little about the historical jesus and the main biographical sources for him are the gospels (canonic and agnostic) which are neither contemporary nor authentic sources.
I have no doubt the historical Jesus existed i was just weirded out by what little we actually knew about him.
162 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
February 8th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
@Randall (161): “Julius, if ignorance were tits, you’d be Dolly Parton.”
No he’d be me
163 landhog8
February 8th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Nice list.
164 ZibbyYamala
February 8th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
do some of u make these comments JUST to piss people off? i don’t care if ur religious or not, but show some respect please. if u don’t CARE about the subject, doesn’t it seem logical to just look at a different list??
anyway! nice list! i really wanna get into #1, i hate not knowing!! like area 51, just gotta get in there!! but i’m actually happy that the grail and the arc haven’t been found, some things are better left hidden.
165 trfan
February 8th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
I doubt that the chalice of #4, as beautiful as it is, is the Holy Grail. Although it’s a fictional movie, I think “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade” had it right that the chalice would have been simple and unassuming, as Jesus prior to his death and resurrection had the bearing of a servant of humanity, not a king.
166 ames801
February 8th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
@General Tits Von Chodehoffen (164): That. Was. Awesome.
167 MamaBear2Cubs
February 8th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
@deeeziner (139): Yeah which is why unlike some other people sometimes I didn’t jumped on the “this list was stolen, stolen I say!” horse right away. I figured the possibility of it being the other way around. In which case, pffft thieves! I fart in your general direction!
168 MamaBear2Cubs
February 8th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
@Randall (161): I had to look up CONVERGENT. Thank you for extending my vocabulary.
169 Sodamancer
February 8th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Jesus did not exist. Period.
Closest parallel- Yeshua di Notzri.
Look it up.
An insignificant man claiming to be a prophet who was eventually stoned and hung upside down from a tree.
Nazareth wasn’t even a real place until about 4 or 5 centuries after the supposed existence of Christ.
Outside of the Bible, there is no evidence of the existence of Jesus.
The quest for a historical Jesus will turn up just as much evidence as the quest for a historical Hercules.
170 bucslim
February 8th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
@Sodamancer (171):
Sodamancer, if ignorance were an ass, you’d be Jennifer Lopez.
Whatever the hell name you pull out of the hallways of your empty head comes up with a giant zero. There’s more parallels between Richard Millhouse Nixon and Jesus that whatever you typed up.
Nazareth wasn’t even a real place until about 4 or 5 centuries after the supposed existence of Christ? What, was it a hologram or something before that? Did it rise up from the ocean from a command from Poseidon? What are you talking about dude?
“Outside of the Bible, there is no evidence of the existence of Jesus.”
Yeah, other than Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny, Suetonius, there appears to be no real evidence of Jesus’ existence.
Your quest for pulling your head out of your ass will obviously not succeed.
171 BravehisTickle
February 8th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Some people think they are so cool by talking religious bullshit specifically a la#171
172 deeeziner
February 8th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
@bucslim (172): “Sodamancer, if ignorance were an ass, you’d be Jennifer Lopez.”
Or a Kardashian.
173 Jaryuki
February 8th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
“Yeah, other than Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny, Suetonius, there appears to be no real evidence of Jesus’ existence.”
Except that those can be discredited since none of the “historical accounts” who wrote about Jesus didn’t know him. All writings of Jesus were done by people who did not know him, were written after his death based on stories of him.
174 abcdefg
February 8th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
I don’t get why there is so much secrecy around such religious artifacts, apart from the idea that they will fall into the wrong hands and be used to wield control over the world through the power of belief, but who’s to say? it could actually be a good thing for them to be known. Whoever has the Grail in possession should come out with it. Since it might still have traces of blood in it, the scientists will pounce on the chance to clone Jesus, which could be the second coming of the Christ, which could save the world from these stupid world leaders populating it.
PS: I’m Muslim, and we also have the belief that a saviour appointed by God will come to save mankind from… itself?
175 The boy from troy
February 9th, 2010 at 1:30 am
@abcdefg (176): You seem to be woefully ignorant of the info about Islam.
176 Teapixie
February 9th, 2010 at 6:05 am
I think it went up with Graham Chapman when his ashes were made into fireworks.
177 Shagrat
February 9th, 2010 at 6:48 am
Interesting List: However, 8 & 7 need commenting. It’s a pity ‘horse as up til now you’ve been pretty much on target.
8 – Dan Brown couldn’t even get simple geography correct in The Da Vinci Code: he has Langdon exit his hotel and travel for 15 minutes to the Louvre at the beginning, travelling south past the Opera along the way – However, the hotel Langdon is described as stying in is literally a 1-and-a-half minute walk from the Louvre across the Rue de Rivoli. In London when ‘The Teacher’ effects the death of the chauffeur outside the mustering yard of the Horse Guards Palace he leans on the bonnet of Sir ??? Jag and looks across St,James park at the spires oif the resting place of the answer to the riddle (Westminster Abbey). In fact neither Westminster Abbey OR its towers can be seen from that spot as the south-west wing of the palace is in the way (as are taller buildings beyond it) – as well as which, to even LOOK in the correct direction, the killer would have to stand, turn about 100 degrees to his left and THEN try to see Westminster Abbey – he’s looking in the wrong direction.
There are about 20 or 30 glaring geographical errors in the Da Vinci Code – so what makes us think Brown was even remotely orrect about the Grail.
He was also wrong with regards to almost everything concerning Rosslyn – there ARE hollows in the hill of Rosslyn – but they are normal geological ones which were identified years a via ground-reading soundwave technology – there are NO tunnels hinted at or discovered by the echolocation studies!
ROSSLYN CHAPEL: the Sinclairs of Rosslyn were granted their lands around Rosslyn about a century or so before the chapel was built – and before that they came from the western isles – isles of which NO individual was linked to or was a member or descendant of – the Templars.
quote: “There are carvings of what appear to be Indian corn (maize) around the windows. Maize was unheard of in Europe at the time of the chapel’s construction.”
Maize – is an AMERIND crop and as such would NOT have been known in Europe when the chapel was built/carved.
However: Indian (as in the country INDIA) WAS well known at that time and CORN – not maize – WAS exported to Britain from there and had been for a long time – it is different to maize in that it is predominantly multicoloured and not as full-bodied. Indian Corn (that is, corn from India) was even known to the Ancient Romans and Greeks!
quote: “There are carvings of “green men,” which seem to symbolize Celtic traditions regarding spring and summer (pre-Christian).”
Wrong: there is A ‘Green Man’ and he has nothing to do with the Celts. In fact it symbolises “man’s great capacity for goodness and the parallel scope for significant evil and it has its origins in the legends of Robin Hood and vice versa. The theme of which was a popular Maytide Play during the 15th & 16th Centuries in Scotland – plays usually performed by bands of roving Gypsies: a group of people for whom the original William Sinclair and his subsequent family have always had (and have) great sympathy to their plight” Thus the Green Man is Sir William’s tribute to both the legend of Robin, the Hooded Man and the Gypsies whoi were always welcomed in Rosslyn.
Finally – “The Apprentice Pillar is the real stand-out. No one knows why it was carved as it was, and there are no other pillars like it in the chapel, or anywhere in Europe.” What Rubbish!!!!!
The Apprentices Pillar was carved that way because the ‘Laird’ WANTED it carved that way. He had made a pilgrimage to Rome and seen the same pillar at the Vatican – he had had an accuratre MODEL of it made at the time and presented this to his Master Mason as a template for his chapel. The story then goes that the Master himself journeyed to Rome to do more detailed sketches and then returned to do the pillar, only to find his apprentice had dreamed the pillar and carved it perfectly from that dream. In rage, the master then murdered the apprentice, HIS pillar is different because it was intended to be so!
Thus – we DO know why it was carved, We DO know why it was carved the way it was and We DO know there IS another JUST like it in Rome!!!
Lastly – Point 8: “Ynys yr Afalon,” is NOT old English for “The Isle of Avalon”. “Ynys yr Afalon,” is WELSH GAELIC or Cymran (I hope I got that correct).
BTW – my dad grew up in the Rosslyn area and we still have family there.
If you want the story of Rosslyn – go there or at least buy a copy of the guide book and history of the chapel – I’ve done both.
178 Du
February 9th, 2010 at 6:55 am
Wow, this is one of the most interesting lists for my tastes that i’ve read here in a long while!
Excellent job with the list!
179 Lifeschool
February 9th, 2010 at 7:14 am
@yojimbo (64): Thanks, I knew it was a set – no access would ever be given to the real Fort Knox of course. Interesting info anyway
180 Ron S
February 9th, 2010 at 8:38 am
huh? i thought the Holy Grail is in the Vatican?
181 dohugsnotdrugs
February 9th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
interesting
182 astraya
February 9th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
161 Randall
@Julius (151):
Julius, if ignorance were tits, you’d be Dolly Parton.
164 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
No he’d be me
If ignorance = tits, does that mean that General Tits = General Ignorance?
183 Randall
February 9th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
@Julius (163):
“No need to be rude.”
There’s rarely a NEED to be rude. I simply find it enjoyable.
“I admit that I was wrong with Herodotus,I confused him with Josephus,”
Well… both had beards. Probably. So I can understand your confusion.
pinhead.
“but the fact is that we know very little about the historical jesus and the main biographical sources for him are the gospels (canonic and agnostic) which are neither contemporary nor authentic sources.”
Julius, I have news for you–and here I’ll cease being facetious and playing at the insult comic and try to teach you something—because you see, I was once a teacher, and I taught this very subject… Ancient History. So listen up.
The fact is, Julius, that we know very little about ANYONE from ancient history… Jesus is not unusual in this. In fact, I’d find it more suspect if we had all these contemporary biographies and whatnot of it–because that shit just basically DID NOT HAPPEN back in those days. The ONLY people who got written about DURING their lifetimes were the REALLY important folk–Kings and the like.
Now you and others might say, “well if Jesus wasn’t supposed to be an important person, I don’t know who was!”
But such people should dig their heads out of their asses. Jesus was, in fact, of only *passing* importance DURING HIS LIFE. He was known to… what? A few hundred, maybe a few thousand, maybe a tad more, in Judea. That’s it. Yes, he fell afoul of the authorities and was tried, sentenced, and put to a public death, which you might consider to be a form of celebrity, but really, hardly.
This is a man who, during his life, was held to be important not by the big movers and shakers of the ancient world–kings, princes, governors, scribes, philosophers, poets—but only to the little people… peasants and such… who back in that day, didn’t contribute to the written record. And it’s clear Jesus didn’t go around *asking* people to write stuff down about him–at least, we have no record of him requesting such a thing.
Now, after his death, sure… people begin telling his story, because THEY feel it’s important. Or he gets mentioned here and there by historians who did not personally know him, because they are aware such a person existed, and they report this or that about him as a matter of fact.
But again–except for kings and such, this pattern is true for MOST of the people we “know” about from the ancient world. We don’t have DIRECT evidence for many of them at all. What we have is CONVERGENT evidence. Disinterested, unrelated sources mentioning said person. Or event. Or whatever it is. Coincidental consequences which can be traced to said person’s existence, or to said event. And it all builds up to form a picture—and the picture is that only a few years after his death, a whole SHITLOAD of people took it as writ that Jesus HAD LIVED, that he was a REAL PERSON.
And again–this is true for a LOT Of other figures and events from ancient history.
Ancient people were no more gullible than we today are. Oh, sure, a lot more superstitious sometimes… and less sophisticated in some respects. But more gullible? Hardly. They were as smart as you or me (well, you maybe… few are as smart as me) and they would not have simply *bought* the story of Jesus only a few years after his death, when many people could have attested to his falsehood if he had only been made up. But no one ever spoke up to say, “hey, that Jesus guy? They just made him up.” And they didn’t even do this when it would have been in their interest to do so—such as the Romans for instance. They COULD have mounted a campaign to discredit the existence of Jesus as a made-up figure, very easily… and it would have served their purposes, for a time, to do so. But they didn’t even TRY it. Why? Because it was common knowledge, and universally accepted, that this guy HAD existed. People had seen him, talked to him, and reported on him after his death.
Period.
184 Randall
February 9th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
@Sodamancer (171):
Look asshole, read what I just wrote to Julius above, in comment #184. There’s no need to reprint it for you. But you need to read it. You *really* need to read it, because you’re as clueless as a single-cell organism.
“Look it up.”
No, tell you what, clown. YOU go look something up. GO LOOK SOMETHING UP before you throw your worthless and uneducated “opinions” around on the internet. Or ANYWHERE ELSE.
GOD, what the fuck is happening to people today? Are there really THIS MANY jackasses with NO critical thinking skills walking around on the streets? It’s no wonder the world is in such shitty shape!
Yes, jerkwad, there were other people walking around claiming to be prophets both before and after Jesus’ life. That does not prove ONE THING about his so-called “non-existence.” It only proves that claiming prophet-ship was a big fad back in his day. At worst you can say that Jesus had some company. Big fucking whoop.
“Nazareth wasn’t even a real place until about 4 or 5 centuries after the supposed existence of Christ.”
Ohmigod.. this is simply not true. This is a mistaken reading of the difference between the various usages of the name “Nazareth.”
Oh for chrissakes, never mind. I AM, honestly, getting tired of dealing with boneheads like this.
185 Randall
February 9th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
@Shagrat (178):
The “corn” you’re referring to is akin to WHEAT. Being English (aren’t you?) you ought to know that in English, the word “corn” has been used to refer to different staples at different times… always whatever staple is locally prevalent. So in Scotland, oats used to be referred to as “corn.” But it’s most often wheat that got called “corn,” and my understanding still is, at times.
When English settlers came to America, they found that maize was the prevalent staple, and of course started referring to THAT as corn. INDIAN corn.
Yes, India had its own local staple that was exported… though most of the “corn” in the ancient near east came from Egypt, and the plains to the northeast of Greece, around the Black Sea.
186 Randall
February 9th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
@General Tits Von Chodehoffen (164):
He isn’t worthy of your hard-earned rank.
187 Julius
February 9th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
@Randall (184): like i said i never doubtet the existence of the historical jesus. as for convergent evidence of his existence, only one historian (josephus) mentioned him in 2 texts and even those are widely disputed.
How come we know so much about other ancient philosophers (i.e. Aristotle), who in their day probably were on the same level of (not)importance as Jesus, allegedly even less since he started a “cult”.
188 Julius
February 9th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
@Randall (187): by the way just what is that on your avatar?
189 Randall
February 9th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
@Julius (188):
That is not what is meant by “convergent evidence.”
Or, rather… Josephus is only PART of the vast web that makes up the convergent evidence for Jesus.
Convergent proof, Julius, is when you do not have DIRECT evidence of something–such as a clearly and obviously authentic written or otherwise uncontestable account which is unquestionably true–but you have a vast body of unrelated circumstances, accounts, and bits of evidence which on their own are tiny and prove little… but in AGGREGATE point to a clear conclusion. The CONVERGENCE of all these little bits serve to, in essence, prove that a person existed or a thing happened, and indicate that no other possibility is as likely.
Okay? So… we KNOW the attack on Pearl Harbor happened because thousands of people on both sides were there and saw the attack and/or participated in it. And it was filmed as it happened, both with still photographs and motion pictures. And there was a mountain of documentation and written accounts which verify that the Japanese planned the attack and that the attack did happen. That’s history, but it’s also unquestioned and proven.
Now… none of us were there. Though it’s not out of the realm of possibility still that someone out there looking in WAS there. But you and I were not there.
So did it happen? I wasn’t there. Neither were you. Do you believe it happened?
We do, (at least I do) because of the mountain of unambiguous evidence which says it happened–such evidence already mentioned.
Okay?
But here’s another one. Did the Trojan War happen? And did the city of Troy ever exist?
Now, for the longest time, many scholars thought it didn’t. They thought it was a myth. The war *and* the city. The only account of it we had was Homer’s Iliad, which we knew to have been written about 500 years after the war was supposed to have taken place.
But then in the 1860s, a man named Heinrich Schliemann, who believed in the historicity of what Homer had written, went out and found the remains of a city in the exact area where Homer had said Troy stood. Later, other archeologists found many indications that this city *was* Troy, little bits of things which matched Homer’s description of it. Homer could not have SEEN it… we know that when he was alive, this place was buried. So he was getting his information from somewhere. He appeared to be describing the place Schliemann had uncovered.
But no writing had been found there; to this day we have no writing from the place, so we don’t KNOW what it was actually called.
But then other bits of indications were found. Archives from the Hittites mentioned not only a war with a people who are almost certainly the Greeks, but that it centered around a city whose name was very close to one of the names Homer uses for Troy–Ilios. There is no other substantial ruin in the area where A) this war was supposed to have occurred and B) where Homer also says there was a war, and over a similarly named city.
And it goes on and on.
Do you see what I’m getting at? We still have no “proof” that Troy ever existed in reality or that the Trojan War ever happened. NOT in the sense that we have proof for Pearl Harbor or WWII in general, or even the American Revolution or the Napoleanic Wars or what have you.
But over time, many unrelated things have converged together to POINT to a conclusion–which is that Troy was real and that it was found right where we believe it to be. And when this converging evidence became SO overwhelming–scholars began to get on board and admit that no other explanation for it all made any sense. The only explanation is that Troy was real, as was the war, and we have found the remains of it.
Now, all the details of the war in Homer? No, we haven’t found evidence for all that. A thousand ships? Ten years of war? No. But A war happened. And it was a real place. Because of convergent evidence.
Do you get it now?
190 Davo
February 9th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
I reckon if the grail existed (it didn’t) it would be in my basement (which I don’t have).
191 FlameHorse
February 9th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
I’m so glad I could bring people together.
192 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
February 9th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
@astraya (183): Actually AssTray it means I have giant tits.
193 Shagrat
February 10th, 2010 at 2:07 am
Randall – No I am NOT English – nor would I wish to be: I would have thought that given I said “my dad grew up in the Rosslyn area and we still have family there.” That it might have been reasonably obvious that my fa,ily originates from NORTH of the border!
Not sure what your experience is of Scottish idiom but I have never, in 50 years of association with that nationality, ever heard of oats referred to as ‘corn’; Y’ clatty claw baw!
Oh. And for general information – the carvings around the window in the chapel are of Indian Corn – - – NOt wheat.
194 Shagrat
February 10th, 2010 at 2:09 am
Randall – No I am NOT English – nor would I wish to be: I would have thought that given I said “my dad grew up in the Rosslyn area and we still have family there.” That it might have been reasonably obvious that my family originates from NORTH of the border!
Not sure what your experience is of Scottish idiom but I have never, in 50 years of association with that nationality, ever heard of oats referred to as ‘corn’; Y’ clatty claw baw!
Oh. And for general information – the carvings around the window in the chapel are of Indian Corn – - – NOT wheat.
195 Shagrat
February 10th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Oh Randall – just to underline my comment above: As I was writing my rebuttal (193 & 194 – the latter being an accidental ‘spelling corrected’ addition) a nerve in my ‘History Store-room’ began irritating and making itself known. So I researched my books on Ancient and Mediaeval Britain and Lo! What do I find but accounts by no less than Gaius Seutonius Paulinus and ; that one of the crops tended by the Celts at that time (AD 50 onward) alongside wheat and oats was – - – CORN – INDIAN CORN!!!
And in case you were unaware – Gaius Seutonius Paulinus was the Roman General who not only finally subdued the Celtic Tribes, but captured Caradoc (Caractacus)- the Catuvallauni Ricon (king) and ‘Arviragus’ and who also faced off Boudicca’s revolt as well as being the commander who destroyed the Druidic Haven of Mona (Anglesey): He was also Governor of Britannia from AD 59 onward – the fifth to hold that title after the ill-fated Quintus Veranius (who had to retire in disgrace) and Aulus Didius Gallus and Ostorius Scapula and Aulus Plautius who led the initial invasion in AD 51 under Emperor Claudius – becoming the first of the Governors .
Gnaeus Julius Agricola – Paulinus’ later successor as Governor (the 11th)
The line went as follows –
Aulus Plautius
Ostorius Scapula
Aulus Didius Gallus
Quintus Veranius
Gaius Seutonius Paulinus
Publius Petronius Turpilianus
Marcus Trebellius Maximus
Marcus Vettius Bolanus
Quintus Petillius Cerialis
Sextus Julius Frontinus
Gnaeus JuliusAgricola
196 kakbouter
February 10th, 2010 at 9:21 am
@Pizzaaaa (97):
Nope, I noticed it too…..
This should be the ‘U.S. Bullion Depository’
Nice list tho
197 ladysmurf
February 10th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
FlameHorse is probably the Champion of Conspiracy lists. ;D
Good job! I liked this one too. ^^
198 J
February 10th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
I have a multitude of questions for the people who claim that all religions are nonsense. Surely someone with such a comprehensive understanding of the universe could answer any question I have.
199 Julius
February 11th, 2010 at 4:05 am
@Randall (192): Ok, now I see what you mean by convergent evidence.
200 Roy Sipel
February 15th, 2010 at 12:06 am
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201 Shar
February 15th, 2010 at 8:09 am
The Holy Grail was actually the Coire Dagda that was carried by the Tuatha de Danann when they came to Ireland, from where it made it’s way to the Holy Land and into the hands of Jesus of Nazareth. The legend says that noone who drank from this cauldron would leave hungry.
From there it was eventually returned to be buried at the Hill of Tara, but was moved in the mid 1600′s to an unknown location, along with the Spear of Lugh, after Cromwell got wind of it’s power and resting place, and threatened to tear down the entire hill to get it.
I’ve no idea where it is now, though.
202 Randall
February 15th, 2010 at 10:59 am
@Shagrat (198):
Look, Shagrat… I don’t know where the hell you’re getting this business about “Indian Corn” being from INDIA. “Indian Corn” is MAIZE, pure and simple, and maize was totally unknown to the ancient world. Europeans did not encounter it until after the discovery of the Americas.
If you’re trying to say that there was some kind indigenous wheat or other staple from India that was known to the ancient world (which in Latin would, I think, be called “granum”) then that’s another matter (but it’s news to me). But it certainly WASN’T maize.
AGAIN… the word “corn,” in English, has been used to refer to various kinds of locally indigenous kinds of wheat/oats/barley… whatever is prevalent in any given locale. Which is how we, in America, came to call maize “corn.”
“Indian Corn,” to my knowledge, has ALWAYS referred strictly to maize—which was a product ONLY of the New World and was utterly unknown in the Old World until after about 1500 AD. Period.
203 Robolasse
February 16th, 2010 at 12:25 am
Didn’t you hear about the moon theory? Himmlers SS excavated the holy grail (in his quest to summon occult powers to win the war) and flew it to one of the secret nazi moon bases on a nazi UFO. The race for the first moon landing was just a excuse for the USA and the USSR to get there first, to retrieve it and get it back to earth. They didn´t find it, and it is still thought to be on the moon!
204 Shar
February 17th, 2010 at 7:02 am
@Robolasse
I’ve heard of that story, but that was obviously a fake.
I mean, everyone knows that the Nazi’s didn’t have secret bases on the Moon. They were on Mars
205 archangel
February 19th, 2010 at 6:25 am
Who the hell controls these Forts?
206 aristotleltotsira
February 25th, 2010 at 3:03 am
@Robolasse (206): @Shar (207): i saw vids of these bases, dunno if those were real though. but it would be freaky to know if it was real…
207 Firesong
May 2nd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Srsly you guys.
Enough arguing about religions and what’s real or not real…
We gotta get around to breaking into the Bullion Depository. I have a plan, it involves 427 rubber chickens and a paper UFO. Who’s with me?
208 apostle
June 3rd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
The cup held wine that REPRESENTED His blood. By the way, I'd be careful impersonating certain people.
209 Jonathan Novak
June 26th, 2010 at 2:52 am
I know where the Holy Grail is! I’ve seen it! I’ve touched it! It’s in-
This comment terminated by the Security Administration of the United States Fort Knox Gold Bullion Repository. Cease commission.
210 wallace
June 29th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Great list. 1st to everyone how thinks number 1 is crazy I know it sounds crazy and probly not where the grail is but wile the hope diamond was waiting transport it was stashed in a post office.2nd I think hagitha sofia hall (spelling I’m sure is off) should be on this list due to the solving of shepeards monument. And there is lot of information on arthur’s grave site and what was found there. I never thought about fort knox very well could be.
211 Justin Enochs
July 4th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
The holy grail is spiritual in nature. It explains the wafer as well as the three sides coin. It is a word calculus. It brings true justice in any dispute. I discovered it. Doubt it? Of course you do.