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10 More Mysterious Islands in Fiction

This list is a follow up to the previous list and, once again, features ten mysterious islands in fiction, is reverse chronological order (as a historian, I tend to prefer showing how things change over time and potentially influence what comes after; besides, one could reasonably argue that those that came early had greater influence than the more recent ones due especially to their older appearances). Moreover, this list, as with the earlier list, emphasizes primarily fictional rather than such real world mysterious islands as Alcatraz or Devil’s Island. Finally, I have focused on islands that have multiple appearances either in numerous episodes of a television show, or that appear, say, in both a novel and film adaptation, i.e. those that are likely to have the greatest familiarity to a global audience and lasting longevity. Many of the islands appearing below will appear in future books, films, television series, and video games currently under development.


The Island of Creation

G19--Article ImageFirst appeared in: God of War II (2007) by Cory Barlog, James Balrog, David Jaffe, and Marianne Krawczyk

The main location during the hit video game’s mid-section appears both on the PlayStation 2 version of the game, and the compilation God of War Collection for the PlayStation 3. As number 1 on the previous list was an island from Greek mythology, it is perhaps fitting that number 10 on this list should also come from Greek mythology, albeit a more modern version of that mythology. Here, anti-hero Kratos meets up with various figures from Greek mythology, including Theseus and the Sisters of Fate.


Hydra Island

515Px-Lost Island Map V3 3First appeared in: Lost (2006)

Although not The Island in Lost, much mystery and many key moments in the series nevertheless occurred on this nearby smaller island, which again appropriately takes it name from Greek mythology, given the first possibly fictional mysterious island on the earlier list. You can go here to read more information on this island.


Shutter Island

Shutter Island PosterteaserFirst appeared in: Shutter Island (2003) by Dennis Lehane

Shutter Island, as with Arkham Island, is home to a hospital for the criminally insane. This particular island appears in both a best-selling novel, and subsequent film adaptation that grossed nearly $300 million dollars worldwide. A United States Marshal’s efforts to investigate a murderess’s disappearance takes many twists and turns that include nightmares, conspiracy, and an ending that challenges the reality of what we have read across the length of the novel or watched for the duration of the film.


Rockfort Island

Retdc Screen10First appeared in: Resident Evil Code: Veronica (2000)

The zombie and monster infested island serves as one of the major settings for two major video games and a novel, set in 1998. Administered by Alfred Ashford for Umbrella, the island is a site for mystery and adventure primarily for Claire Redfield, Steve Burnside, and Chris Redfield. In addition to the even more bizarre biological experiments than those seen in The Island of Dr. Moreau and Jurassic Park (Resident Evil’s most notorious island features among other things a gigantic virus infected earth worm called a “gulp worm“), this island includes a prison (as does Arkham Island) and also a palace and military training facility.


The Island

CastawaywebFirst appeared in: Cast Away (2000) by William Boyles, Jr.

The main setting of a film that grossed over $400 million dollars, and received major nominations at the Academy Awards, Golden Globe Awards, and MTV Movie Awards, has importance beyond its appearance in a single successful film. Three years after the film’s release, Cast Away-The Series became a consideration for ABC Studios to develop. The proposed television series developed further and eventually had the title of Nowhere. Ultimately, the basic concept of this proposed series evolved into 2004’s Lost, a series with not one but two notable fictional mysterious islands of adventure.


Isla Sorna

0-7First appeared in: The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1995) by Michael Crichton

The main setting of two major movies and one major novel. As with Hydra Island to The Island in Lost, Isla Sorna is somewhat secondary to Isla Nublar for the Jurassic Park franchise, but again, as with Lost’s Hydra Island, Isla Sorna has a fairly high level of appearances in major works of fiction to justify its inclusion as well. After all, it rather than Isla Nublar, served as the setting of the first two sequel films.


Monkey Island

Monkey-Island-Monkey-Island-530473 640 400First appeared in: The Secret of Monkey Island (1990)

This volcanic island serves as the key location of a major video game series, that arguably influenced such later games and films as the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise, the ride of which incidentally inspired game designer Rob Gilbert to create this island based game world inhabited by cannibals, and even a ghost pirate. The series also features numerous other islands as well, although the titular Monkey Island is, of course, the most important.


Fantasy Island

3197840175 Ed17Fe6C82First appeared in: Fantasy Island (1977)

With 158 episodes for the original series, followed by another 13 episodes in the late-1990s revival, Fantasy Island has even more television appearances than Gilligan’s Island and The Island from Lost. As with those series, this show is also set on a mysterious Pacific island, and, as with the later series, featured not just run of the mill romance and murder, but supernatural and mythological adventures. Hervé Villechaize’s “Ze plane! Ze plane!”, uttered when a new plane arrived in most episodes to bring a new set of paying customers to the island, became a notable catchphrase in popular culture. Apparently a reality show version of the series is now also under consideration.


Gilligan’s Island

GilliganFirst appeared in: Gilligan’s Island (1964)

A bit more light-hearted of a setting than most of the other islands appearing on both this and the earlier list, nevertheless this volcanic setting for the castaways of the S.S. Minnow certainly had much mystery, and with 98 episodes of the original series and a possible film remake set for 2011, it is easily one of the most well-known fictional islands in television history, perhaps rivaled only by the more recent Island on Lost. Oddly enough, the island’s history, as an Army Air Corps base in the Pacific Theater during World War II, almost reminds one of the “Jughead” episode of Lost. While Gilligan’s Island may not have been plagued by a smoke monster or time jumps, the terrain, flora and fauna all add to the island’s mysteries, with African apes appearing on a Pacific island, a snow-capped mountain, caves, a mine, and even totally fictitious species, invented just for the series.



Avalon-CastleFirst appeared in: The History of the Kings of Britain (1136) by Geoffrey of Monmouth

This one, which figures prominently in Arthurian legend, was probably significant enough that it could/should have appeared in the first list, just after Atlantis and not just because both begin with As! Famous for its apples and such immortal inhabitants as the enchanting Morgan le Fay, the island is significant to Arthur’s legend for two main reasons: 1) it is where Excalibur, one of fiction’s most important swords, was forged and 2) it is where a wounded Arthur is taken after his battle with Mordred. As with Atlantis, number 1 on the earlier list, Avalon may be based on an actual place, in this case Glastonbury and various other supposed locations. And once again, as with Atlantis, Avalon has appeared in numerous subsequent works of fiction, while inspiring many others, from comic books to films.

  • jpv

    First! Not the original Ginger :-(

    • congrats. come up with something original man. If you guys have to type something of this effect, the least you could do is make it humorous. can we all agree that we'll consider the first joke as 'Yay! First!'

      Please. make our day.

      • sheesh

        another bitter old imp. "first" is now some sort of unwritten rule in the internet! get used to it because you'll see more of it in the next few decades. now let's move on already

        • The Major

          The same could be said for poor spelling and grammar. Just because it is used widely on the internet doesn't mean we all need to follow suit. Leave the 'first' comments to kids. It's not needed here.

        • i have more faith in people than to think they're gonna keep doing something that stupid for that long.

          • faith in people…yeah, I used to make that mistake, too…:-D

          • its optimism week
            i'm tryin' :]

      • oliveralbq

        although i understand why jamie/mom/cyn etc delete these messages wrought with stupidity, and i suppose i'm for it — i have to admit — it was interesting to watch and see how fast a comment could get into triple digit numbers on the thumbs down front

        itll say "removed by administrator" before long…….

      • MacMan

        What’s more annoying than people leaving “first” comments? People who complain about those people leaving first comments. Read the list comment on the list. With that being said I like all lists no matter what the subject. I get to learn something new everyday.

        • bluesman87

          it has been said before but the only thing more annoying than people who leave "first comments are the people who complain about the people who complain about how annoying first comments are . No wait I'm mistake the most annoying is people who complain about people who complain about people who complain about people who complain about "first" comments… but if you are someone who complains about people who complain about people who complain about "first comments- then you are pretty cool in my book . . . yup i went there .

          • It's all coming together now bluesman87 – it's making perfect sense. (I think I need to lie down)

          • bvgffgcgcgfh

            i think my brain has melted

      • jkl

        Was this the highlight of your week?

    • Maggot

      Well this is just great. This comment has created quite a dilemma for me. Because of the stupid “first” declaration, I want to down-thumb it, report it, and post a condescending remark about it. Well, I probably wouldn’t post the condescending remark, because it seems too “me too-ish”, and thereby equally stupid, and there is also the undesired backlash of posts condemning those who condemn “firsties”. But the real conflict I have is that you actually included a poignant remark about the photo of Ginger immediately following your stupid “first” declaration. I want to celebrate that remark with a thumbs-up, but then it will appear that I am condoning the “first” thing. If I report it, my report may be the final straw that results in its removal by the administrator, which will have the undesired affect of also removing said poignant remark about the Ginger photo, leaving it open for someone else to say it and undeservedly revel in the glory of thinking that they were the first to notice it. You, on the other hand, were celebrating the wrong first. Why oh why did you have to say “first”, and ruin everything? Argh…what to do, what to do…?

      • oliveralbq

        i hate that this person has created this dilemma for you (for all of us, actually)
        i, too, noticed the diametrical opposition found in the different points in that post. i didnt like it. in fact, it fucked up most of my day — well, 7 minutes anyway — but who's counting?
        the reason: its a no-brainer —- you are exactly right
        for this reason, i have decided to abstain.
        –i dont want to report this behaviour.
        –i also dont want to condone this daily race to comment section immortality (or whatever the hell they think they are accomplishing by "winnning"?/??)?
        –as for thumbs? meh. like you said a pro and a con on each side
        if i may make a suggestion:

        not first! not the original ginger :-(

        there man.
        thumb that one up.

        then thumbs up to the comment by @jpv

        then report it.

    • I am choosing to ignore you

  • bluesman87

    good effort , just not really all that gripping. I could do without knowing this info . Anyway i’ve never written a list so i cant really complain. But i think the subject is uninteresting .

    • youve written one list.
      and you need to jump in the forums, find my address and send it to me

      as for this list — the first islands list was less than a week ago. the inclusions and exclusions were nicely discussed in the comments. when dr.z said he had another list of everything he left off for publishing a sequel list, i was thinking 'right on…..not bad'

      ive nticed you dont have to be completely emmersed with interest in something, for it to become a good l.v. read. my issue with this one, is that i feel like i've already read all of this in the last week from commentors.

      • bluesman87

        true , i never even seen Gilligan's Island but from last weeks comments i already knew it would be here .

    • MacMan

      Hilarious response on the other commment!.. Hey is that a pic of SRV in your ID?… (sorry using iPhone and can’t see it very well)

      • bluesman87

        nope Clint Eastwood , but hes got the right hat though .Its seriously weird that im listening to SRV right now .

      • TEX

        SRV rules – love the compilation that Austin City Limits occasionally plays

        • bluesman87

          even weirder man i never read your post before i was posting about Austin city limits . i dont even know what Austin city limits is but when he played Texas flood on there i get friggin goose bumps man … so f*&cking crap hes gone ….. why didnt god take Jimmy …..heh heh heh

          • Oh my! You're gonna hate me for for this, I know, but I can't count the number of times I have seen SRV in concert.
            I got hooked on attending concerts by the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival (the Monterey Rock Festival), 3 days of the most intense, up until that time, rock music ever presented together.
            Of course, I had to lie about where I was that weekend.
            But, being a resident of the Los Angeles/Hollywood area I had access to every concert, every musician, who came through. I learned how to gain access to every venue in the entire area for those times when money was tight to nonexistent.
            I got hooked on the Hollywood Bowl's Playboy Jazz & Blues Concert's 1982 when I returned to L.A. after a 10 year hiatus in SanFrancisco,, and attended every up until 2005, when I moved out of the L.A. area.
            I have to tell you, though, bluesman, your country produces some fantastic music itself. I've got a lot of it on cd and listen to it often….it reminds me of the Blues and Jazz, of which I cannot get enough. I swear, I will have John Lee Hooker playing (sadly, on cd) at my funeral.

    • MacMan

      That is weird…. I’m from Dallas, TX so I’m a huge SRV fan. Where are you from? I see big time zone difference in our responses.

      • bluesman87

        South Africa . ..other side of the planet . To hear SRV on the radio here you either need a miracle or you have to win some kind of contest … just got his final performance on Austin city Limits . So i was kicking to that…

    • MacMan

      Awsome. I came so close to going to South Africa since my dad has a huge passion for soccer…. They play SRV here all the time and that last performance he gave was like no other.

      • bluesman87

        Eric clapton said that Texas plays the best music all the time , apparently the juke boxes are awesome . The one guy i pray too see before he dies is another texan Johnny Winter heard my first album when i was like 8 .That guy always reminds me of the undertakers father… You guys are very lucky you should treasure your culture.

        • TEX

          Johnny Winter means more to me musically than you could imagine. The first rock/rhythm/blues album I ever bought when I was a kid was Second Winter, his second album (A 3 SIDED DOUBLE LP !!!).
          I played it until I the grooves started to wear – I still have it, and a drawing I made of him from the cover.
          He played at Clapton’s Crossroads meet in 2007 backed by Derek Trucks. He’s playing a Gibson Firebird V that has wall paneling glued to it or something.
          The DVD of that Crossroads is excellent by the way – highly recommend it. The final night is the Clapton, Steve Winwood (Blind Faith) reunion.

          And like MacMan said – thanks – we do love our music here – all kinds.
          By the way – my son is a musician – their band has been invited to play SXSW festival in Austin the last three years in a row – quite proud.

          • bluesman87

            yeah i got that DVD last year -he nails highway 61 in its balls man , that slide is SPECTACULAR!! that performance actually inspired me to learn slide , i made one from a bottle neck im getting there but its pretty tricky. I cant wait to get the new crossroads 2010 DVD , i havent jammed in like a year since my drummer left for the UK . It sux i gotta get going again .

          • TEX

            Not to drag this out, but – do me a favor and google “Danny Gatton” and research him. Of course the first time I saw him was on Austin City Limits. I later saw him live at the F.W. Caravan of Dreams, June 1994. absolutely one of the greatest guitar mechanics I’ve ever had the great fortune to see, and I have seen the best.
            Unfortunately he blew his mind out in his garage Oct.4,1994.
            You might thank me for this some day.

    • MacMan

      Thanks. Here in the land of cowboys and cowgirls we do have a lot of “pride and joy” when it comes to our culture and music…. Ah yes Mr. Winter one of the best blues musicians of all time. Well he is still touring the opportunity is still there to see him live.

  • Ey_Explod

    The Island from Cast Away made it to #6….damn right its mysterious.
    Muhahahaha B)

    • hahahaha
      i thought of you right away when i saw hanks' face.

      i just wish z had gone into the strange race of volleyball-people that inhabit the island.

  • Wow! #1 looks so amazing-straight out of a fairy tale..

  • Isn't it a bit too early to post a follow up list less than a week after the first list came out? I know nothing about marketing or such, but it seems a bit of overkill.

    • deeeziner

      I've seen this happen before at the site. It usually happens when the author is heavily influenced by the readers comments…something like "penis envy", or perhaps some other titled inferiority complex.

      I think it also reflects what Jamie might have in his "in-box".

      Sorry if I'm somewhat sour….I don't have much time on the computer these days. I also suspect that the author didn't like my suggestion of Isla de Muerta from POTC.

    • I agree. Last week he could have just made it the Top 20 Islands…

  • the mick

    i disagree , cqsteve. I think it's great that the author of this list has done a follow-up to the previous list as there where many islands that were missed first time around. its good to see people are not lazy and take a pro-active approach to 'adding' to a list.

    its great to see that the islands on this list also trancend different media (movie, tv, games and literature).

    i say well done !!

    • One mans' meat is another mans' poison; so agree to disagree?

      • the mick



    • bluesman87

      it doesn't matter when they submit the list , the LV team are the ones to decide when to publish it . I agree with CQsteve , it probably would've been better to chill for a while before publishing .

      • the mick

        i only meant that in 6 months time, there might be a whole lot of new movies, books etc that feature mysterious islands. that's all.

    • Dr. Matt Zarzeczny

      Hello, The Mick! I greatly appreciate reading such comments as yours. They truly help to make today a happier one! :) All the best!

      • the mick

        thank you, Doctor !

        • Dr. Matt Zarzeczny

          You are welcome! Have a nice afternoon!

  • missmozell

    jpv is right–that is definitely NOT Tina Louise. She looks like she has some serious wiggin' going on–like '60s female country music wiggin'. And in that picture, the question of Mary Ann or Ginger is easy. I female and straight, and I'd say Mary Ann. I used to have a huge crush on the Professor, then I found out that the actor who played him was probably gay. *sigh*

    • becd85

      Russell Johnson has been married three times so he's probably not gay.

      • missmozell

        Glad to hear it! Like I'd ever have had a chance…

  • necropenguin

    not that interesting, but still worth a read. the first island list was better.

  • other "WAQ WAQ island"
    lots of story's in Arabian nights happen there

    "Waq-Waq Island is an island bordering on Sofalah, one of the Islands of the Zanj
    Zanj (Arabic and Persian- "Land of the Blacks") was a name used by medieval Arab geographers to refer to both a certain portion of the East African coast and its inhabitants"

  • Kudos for adding Avalon. That would be one place I would love to visit if real. Glad that this time Fantasy Island and Gilligan's Island made it. Cool list.

    • Dr. Matt Zarzeczny

      Thank you for the nice comments! Have an awesome afternoon! :)

  • Taiya

    How about the island in Myst? I remember playing it when I was small and was fascinated.

  • Danielle

    I agree that it's too early to have added another list like this. Especially on a Monday. Listverse is how I kick off my week, and to be honest, the last Island list wasn't really gripping either.

  • deeeziner

    I left my comment on the list as a reply to CQSteve's comment.

    This comment is a followup[ to my last comment just to see if it will be immediately published or be submitted to moderators.

  • Gav

    And STILL no Never Never Land… :(
    You can't dis Capt. Hook like that. He will find your children as they lie in their beds between sleep and awake..

  • Lifeschool

    I had to check twice before I realised that this was indeed a new list – but yeah – good to include all those suggestions from the first list and perhaps a couple more.

    Wasn’t expecting Monkey Island to be in there (the picture is actually Monkey Island 2), but good addition. For the record, I finished Monkey 1 and 2 (Amiga/PC) but just couldn’t quite make the final stage of Monkey 4 (PS2/PC). Monkey 2 is the best one I think.

  • Lifeschool

    @ Gav: Was Never Never Land an actual island or just a ‘land’? From the title I’d guess land…

  • brock


    • That has always sort of intrigued me; why isn't Australia called the Island Continent? Or is it in some places? It's so obviously an Island…a very large one, no doubt about that…but an island nonetheless.
      Or is there some size beyond which a body of land stops being considered an island?
      Just rambling thoughts before my morning caffeine kicks in…

      • elroxzor99652

        True, you can say it's a very large island, but can't you also say that it's just a very small continent? ;p

        • It's not small. It has about the same land mass as the United States.
          Of course, the US is small is comparison to, say, Asia or Africa, so you could say you have a point. I guess it depends on to what you are making the comparison.
          I am amused when we get guests come from England or Ireland, or somewhere of comparable size, and they are going to be driving from Los Angeles to Cambria. They just can't believe, the older ones, that it really will take 5 hours or so at freeway speeds. Things just aren't that far apart where they live.
          Well, they are, but you aren't travelling that far, that fast, in one day…or so I've been told.

    • Fiction?

  • bob

    So lame…

  • Edmund

    Thanks for doing us dirty…again! I would like to reiterate the fact that any and all of the islands mentioned in "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" are more mysterious and interesting than the ones mentioned above. Especially because the island from Castaway is just a regular island and Gilligan's Island is barely mysterious. If you're gonna make a list, at least research it a little first.

  • TEX

    maybe JF is on vacation?

  • What about the island in "Lord of the Flies"?

  • Derp

    The village from the prisoner is not an island, but may count as well.


  • phynx

    still no koholint island?

  • YES a fun list where I didn't even mutter a "what about…" !!!

    I just read em all over a cup of tea and thoroughly enjoyed it! Cheers!!

    • Dr. Matt Zarzeczny

      Thank you for your kind words! Have a nice week!

  • Not really to do with the article, but every time I come here to read an article recently an automatic ad for Harpic begins halfway down the page at full volume.
    It's intrusion is making me want to come back to the site less and less :(

  • What about Candied Island from The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack?

    I feel like such a child saying this…

    • who needs Candied Island its safer at the docks!
      But there ain't no streams of soady pop go trickling down the rocks!

  • Nice list! But fuck lost!

  • Mia

    ok, right now for our summer reading assignment we have to read lord of the flies(which i really dont like). im a fan of this site and when i saw the first list of 10 mysterious islands in fiction, i seriouslly thought " oh there so gonna have the island from lord of the flies there" and i was surprised when i didnt see it. so i click on this list this morning thinking the same thing and im surprised once again. im not complaining or anything, i just think that the island is worth being included.

  • Enjoyed the read but maybe a list with 20, instead of splitting them so close and near each other as someone has already mentioned.

  • Nauplius

    Ok, someone please explain to me what is so mysterious about the island from Cast Away. I didn’t get it when people were mentioning it last week. I still don’t get it, and the list entry doesn’t explain why either other than it’s connection to Lost. What am I missing here?

    Same goes for the island in Lord of the Flies, that keeps getting mentioned.

  • Riven

    You forgot the coolest island! MYST!!

  • Clark88

    Decent list. I just fail to believe that Gilligan's Island and the Cast Away island are very mysterious. A good idea for a list, but some entries here are pushing it a bit.

  • I'm familiar with Gillian's Island and the Jurassic Park one…oh! wait, if it's the from the second movie, not, no…nor the book.
    I remember reading Lord of the Flies in school, somewhere around 5th grade. I remember *THAT* island.
    The Island of Dr. Moreau, of course, and I have to agree with Lifeschool and Julius, the island of Never Never Land.
    All the rest of them I know nothing about, so go at it gang. I'll stick with my little cast of…one…Gilligan's…and wish the rest were here.

  • diogenes the plumber

    So it was for the chuckles when Hanks opens the box with the ice skates in them and tosses them aside… You know, being on a deserted tropical island, who would need metal blades for spearing, digging, cutting and reflecting the sun's heat for fire? But that takes the fun out of the whole Frankenstein scene. What I sort of find interesting is that 'reality-tv' show, 'Survivor', was the top boobtube watch around the time and maybe it's that we no longer want to retreat into nature and live off natural resources ( ie: as in some dead-end hippy commune) or separate/isolate from the government in order to be self sufficient and reliant, but that we want to utilize our superior ranks in the corporate world to their fullest extent or to prove that our social intelligence as a species (and the regular joe the plumber) is defiant against the industrialized populous and the humanized god. knowatta mean vern? As if it is within us all to recall our natural instincts in order to survive because our survival will triumph beyond natural law.

  • oliveralbq

    most these islands are completely fictitious — some are based on real islands (like the cast away island (monuriki) — can be found in the mamanuca archipelago — kinda near viti levu (the big-ass island in fiji))

    the galapagos islands probably arent *that* mysterious on their own. so, when you look at them from 1,000,000 years into the future — mysteriousness is kinda inherent.

    now, i'll say that "galapagos" wasnt my very favourite of kurt vonnegut's books, but it's not bad by any means.
    the role of mankind a million years from now is an interesting way to approach a story, and lends itself to potential mysteries as you go jumping back and forth, through time and narrative space, discovering things way off in the future, in relation to some historical events that happened in "present", which was like, in 1985 i think — right after a global financial crisis, and at some point, world war iii — was a fresh approach to the old post-apololyptic framework.
    much of the story takes place in '85, but is told from the point of view of a shipbuilder's ghost one million years after 1985.

    it took me only a couple days to read it, and it did sparked curiousities. mysterious, and otherwise

    there have been many many comments about the "what" part of mysterious islands — whats in the woods?, what do the numbers mean?, what the hell are those things?, what is that thing trying to eat me? (and to some extent, 'why' questions, as well)

    i only brought this up because the "when" aspect intrigued me at the time, and reminded me of the story a week ago — yanno, when the first one of these island lists came out.

    • Vonnegut, although one of my favorites, was something of a "what" and a "why" himself.
      I believe that is why all of his books have so many unanswered questions…indeed, even so many unasked questions, begging to be asked!
      He was as unique a soul as anyone you would ever want to meet, and the fact that he seemed completely unaware of his uniqueness only added to the strangeness, the mystery, the battiness, the pure and unadulterated niceness (if he was in the mood).
      Galapagos had an oddity to it that registered more in his later work than in his early work. Maybe "a different oddity" is more precise.
      I can't buy now, and couldn't buy at the time, the de-evolution of man. It made for a reasonably interesting story, but I'd rather just visit the real Galapagos and take photos of the wild life than postulate the idea of man devolving into seals.

      • oliveralbq

        he was a what and a why himself.
        man o man is that ever true.
        with most of his books, it was the unasked quesitons, rather than the unanswered ones that compelled me to continue reading until completeion, then pick up another of his. i almost always read his books *while* i was reading something else. they were usually conflicting enough that it was enjoyable to me to pick up one or the other, at my choosing.
        i got the oppourtunity to speak with him 3 times, at great length one of the times (and by great length, i mean well over an hour)
        the conversation started because i was reading 'breakfast of champions' at the time, and asked him back to back questions about "slapstick", "galapagos", and the battle of the bulge (in which he was captured as an infantryman). he recognized my questions about his books as being very astute, and anchored in a well though-out, structured manner. he also recognized my question about the war as being uninformed, and quickly asked me if i had read slaughterhouse 5 (which i hadnt) and proceeded to stand in the hotel lobby in tuscaloosa and tell me in great great detail about the dresden firebombing, and other points about his works and how they related to his life. and vice versa, of course.
        — anyway, i had a point in galapagos i wanted clarified, and after he made me so comfortable fielding questions (as long as i didnt sound like a weenie), i asked him about my confusion.

        since you seem to understand his work just fine, my question was relating to the clear mysterious component of god, versus the chance component of natural selection.
        he told me the 'chance' has similiar (and tangential at times) properties of the 'mystery' element… this idea was obfuscated by the fact that the characters aren't properly participating in the realm of the universe. also quite resounding, was his tie in to other lead characters of his, as they experience the functions of mythology (which dwayne hoover (boc), kilgore trout (b), his son leon trout (galapagos) billy (s.5) and a few others all related to the mythology as it relates to the function of evolution, and natural selection.

        • oliveralbq


          question about his own work again. he tells me chance is the source of innovation. chance is the source of all creation. — went on to tell me chance was god, justifying it, randall style. when he rattled around to the end, he made the specific point that chance governed all innovations, and all creations, and that nat.selection became "fact", by proxy, in relation to the mythologies set forth in each main character, and each (very different) work.

          the morlal of this story:
          i didnt think that island was all that mysterious prior to that conversation. vonnegut told me enough crap that i had to start over again, and read very carefully to find things that were meant to be found, although not in the place they should be found. which, obviously, gived one a waaaaaay different outlook on a boook thats about 125 pages

          • That sounds exactly like something I would expect from him.
            You were extremely lucky to run into him when you did, I mean at the age you did. It would be, could be a life altering meeting. He gave you a lot of things to mull over, and I hope you are still mulling.
            Ray Bradbury is another writer whose life outlook is so out-there, so "other", that you either just accept him, even love him for it, or seriously consider calling for the men in the little white coats.
            This isn't the place to get into it, but, trust me…both men are a bit off, and both write simply wonderful storie because of, not in spite of, that being a bit off.
            I really could get in depth here, but I wont.
            Take my word for it for now.

          • oliveralbq

            yeah — your last couple sentences — thats what i was gonna ask you about.

            "a life altering experience" is exactly how i would describe that.

            now allow me to tell you about another. even though i got my degrees in psychology and statistics, i didnt take bullshit electives. one class i found myself in was a masters level ploitical science — (psci-451, "man and the state")

            right — check the course number, there.

            this man (dr. pound — who maggot hates) created a class essentially around the writings of bradbury, vonnegut, and a few select philosophers. the university of alabama wouldnt allow a class with sech a narrow scope, so dr pound had us read a book every week, and discuss them all in the form of 4-7 min mini book reports. read aloud, so all the students
            (19 of us) could analyze the theories and idiologies. these books ranged from 'on the beach' to 'slapstick', neitzche, nevil shute, robert pirsig, on and on —
            bradbury is a trip, and that class, as challenging as it was, was one of the best classes i ever took. it opened our minds to all kinds of new and eye-opening ideas. i was very lucky in both regards.

  • dio the janitor

    maybe the isolation factor is like being catapulted outside the domains of earth time. 'Where' is unknown if disconnected from what is. yet there is this connective void among voids, like hope and black holes harboring universes, so the 'when' is the age old 'center of the universe' ; where one stands on any such mountain at any such given time, because, Time is certain with that spacial certainty. An island among the nothingness of something. Which is like now and later.

    • d-janitor

      ….or floating worlds; the clouds cutting off peaks where the dreamer sits… if mysterious islands become digital dreams, then the player/controller is a manipulative god where the program is organic to take on its own expanse as it sees fit.

  • Still no Numenor?

    • If you'd want to enter the Lord of the Rings mythology than Valinor would have been a much better choice, although I wouldn't say it's very mysterious either.

  • I have no clue why Lost has made BOTH of these lists. It's such a crappy show.

    • *ALL* reality shows are. It's built in.

  • Coo

    lists like this suck balls.

  • bluesman87

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  • bluesman87

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  • T.G.

    This and it's predecessor were really neat lists and I enjoyed them.
    You know what might have been cool as a bonus? The Island out of the movie "The Island." Basically, the survivors of some unclear apocalyptic-type disaster are being housed in a facility that keeps them absolutely healthy, and the only way to go back into the world is winning a permanent trip to "the island" through a weekly lottery. Most see this as the luckiest day of their lives, but there's something mysterious about this 'Island." I'm not going to give it away though. Look it up on imdb if you want spoilers.

  • Rice

    What the fauwk? Still no Lord Of The Flies Island.

  • Bruce Lee

    You missed a good one,

    Han's Island

    From Enter the Dragon

  • Great list.

  • He-man

    What about that island where King Kong liveth?

  • Jeff_spectre

    hatew to be a super nerd but the image for monkey island aint “the” monkey island AND its from the 2nd game not the 1st………..ugh i feel dirty for that

  • edgar

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    God of War II is in this list , this is great.

    i enjoy the post

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