Japanese fashion usually brings to mind kimono, yukata, or the sailor school uniforms. And for many people around the world who are interested in fashion, the lesser known styles and subcultures of Japan are becoming more widely recognized. The fashions on this list were worn at different times in Japan during the twentieth century and today. With some groups of Japanese teenagers these styles were extremely popular. They were viewed as creative and influential to fashion by some, and looked on with confusion and amusement by others.
Suke means female, and Ban means boss. Sukeban were known for forming all girl gangs, and then committing acts of violence and shoplifting. Sukeban gangs first began to appear in the 60s. They were inspired by the gangs of boys known as Bancho, who hoped to one day join the yakuza. There was quite a range in size for the Sukeban groups, but the largest was known as the Kanto Women Delinquent Alliance, which included 20,000 girls. Rival groups would often get into fights. The Sukeban girls followed strict rules within their own groups, and breaking them would result in lynching. Getting burned with a cigarette was considered only a mild punishment. Sukeban were always seen in their sailor uniforms. They would wear pleated skirts that went down to their feet, and would custom embroider their uniforms.
The Takenokozoku were some of the first to form Harajuku into one of the best known places to view Japanese street fashion. The style was popular in the late 70’s and early 80s, and consisted of neon colored accessories such as beads, whistles, bows, and nametags. A store called Takenoko inspired the clothes worn by the Takenokozoku, which were influence by traditional Japanese fashion. Their outfits were loose and baggy, and usually hot pink or bright blue or purple. They wore robes with kanji characters, and slippers that were comfortable for dancing. Large groups of Takenokozoku would choreograph dances in the streets of Harajuku, playing the current popular music on their boom boxes.
Motorcycle gangs became popular in Japan in the early 60s, and became known as Speed Tribes (Bosozoku). In the 70s, girl motorcycle gangs began to appear. At the time, it was estimated by police that at least 26,000 Japanese citizens were involved in a biker gang. By the 80s, the number of male biker groups began to decrease. However, more and more girl biker groups began to pop up. Yanki, heavily influenced by both the Bosozoku and the Sukeban, often wore sarashi (white cloth wrapped around the chest), an embroidered tokko fukku robe, and a gauze mask. The Bosozoku also owned customized scooters.
The word Gal has been used since the 80s in Japan to describe a girl who likes trendy clothing. Ko Gal was first used in the 90s by the media to describe an eighth grader who made $4000 a month for paid dating with middle aged men. Ko comes from the Japanese word for child, kodomo. Ko Gals tried to look as young as possible, by wearing the cutest accessories they could find. They wore their school uniforms with the skirts shortened, tanned their skin, and bleached their hair. And of course, the famous loose socks. Some girls would use sock glue to keep their loose socks from slipping. Although some Ko Gals of Shibuya did take part in enjo kosai (paid dating), it was not quite as popular as the media made it out to be. As the style spread from Tokyo to around Japan, Kogal movies, magazines, and TV programs became popular. Kogals were never seen without their phones, and they were some of the first avid young technology users in Japan. Ko Gal fashions has evolved into some of Japan’s present styles, such as Hime (princess) Gal. Hime Gal involves wearing expensive brand name clothing, usually of the pink and frilly variety.
Although Ko Gals had tan skin, Ganguro girls took tanning to a new extreme. They would tan their skin every week, and then apply foundation meant for black women. Ganguro literally means “Black Face.” Besides tanned skin, the Ganguro look included platforms shoes, mini dresses, bleached hair, black ink used for eyeliner, blue contacts, and white concealer used for lipstick. A Gal magazine called Egg featured Buriteri, one of the most well known Ganguro, on its cover. The look was popular with groups of teenagers in Shibuya, however, they were often harassed, or viewed by the general public with disgust. By the end of 2001, the trend had died down and tanning salons began to close.
The Manba style, which is still seen today, shares many similarities with Gonguro. The name comes from the word Yamanba, the name of an ugly witch in a Japanese folktale (Yamanba was a term the media used for the Gonguro). Because of the dangers of tanning, they often use dark skin foundation instead. Groups of Manba participate in Para Para dancing, or quick synchronized movements to techno music. Groups of Manba form Gal circles, the most popular one being Angeleek. Boys who spent their time in the same clubs as Manba adopted their own similar style. They became known as Center Guys (after Shibuya’s Center Street). Manba clothes and accessories vary, but are always trendy and garishly bright. Manba makeup consists of white lips and large white circle around the eyes. Colorful decals are placed around the face, and rainbow hair extensions are also popular.
Kigurumin was a short lived (2003 to 2004) and strange fashion phenomenon. Girls who spent their time hanging out in Shibuya and wanted something comfortable to wear began sporting cheap animal costumes bought in party sections of stores. Along with a Pikachu, Hamtaro, or Winnie the Pooh costume, Kigurumin would carry animal purses, cute accessories, and wear manba makeup.
Nagomu was an indie record label created in 1983. The label gained a large fan base. The name for fans, Nagomu Gals, first appeared in the magazine Takarajima. Nagomu Gals favored vintage clothing. They often wore long sleeved t-shirts, thick soled rubber shoes, and knee socks. The term Nagomu Gal was not exactly positive, as they were sometimes viewed as annoying fan girls. In 1989 the Nagomu label was shut down.
Lolita is one of the most popular new Japanese subcultures, and has begun to appear in countries across the world. There are numerous Lolita brands, such as Baby the Stars Shine Bright, Metamorphose, and Angelic Pretty. Lolita fashion began becoming popular in the late 90s, and like the Nagomu style, it has been influenced by music. Gothic record labels in Japan lead to visual kei music, which helped inspire Gothic Lolita clothing. Visual kei refers to bands which wear extremely elaborate makeup and costumes. Lolita is also inspired by the clothing of the Rococo period. The name came from Mana (from the visual kei band Malice Mizer) who called the theme of his clothing line Elegant Gothic Lolita. The popular magazine Gothic and Lolita Bible came out in 2001. There are several different types of Lolita. Gothic Lolita involves primarily black frilled clothing. Sweet Lolita uses pastels, and lots of lace and bows. For punk Lolita, plaids and chains are combined with the frills. Wa Lolita incorporates traditional Japanese clothing, such as kimono, into the look. Accessories that are popular for Lolita include bonnets and headdresses, rocking horse shoes, parasols, petticoats, and frilled knee socks.
Decora is a Japanese street style popular today. In 1997, the magazine FRUiTS was created to display photographs of Japanese street fashion. Aki Kobayashi, the cover model of the first issue, wrote columns for FRUiTS about her style and how she created her own accessories. Soon, girls began making their own eccentric accessories. The style became known as Decora, and its followers traded and sold their accessories in Harajuku. Although each Decora outfit is unique, they all have the similarities of being extremely bright, decorative (hence the name), and cute. Decora girls wear an insane amount of plastic accessories and barrettes, neon skirts, colorful socks, and cute character products.























April 21st, 2009 at 1:37 am
I used to live in Japan and i have to say, its not as weird as you may believe. Their culture is based on respect and honor which, in my opinion, is sorely lost in the bowels of our American way of life. I was disgusted when i moved back here to America. I plan on going back their to retire.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:39 am
i love japanese culture so much! they are so unique, and they aren’t easy to influence by other,, i love their anime, the girl’s cute voices, everything!
April 21st, 2009 at 1:42 am
hahaha! and their sense of fashion is not that weird for me, unlike emo!
April 21st, 2009 at 1:45 am
This list is far different than others!
April 21st, 2009 at 1:47 am
One more nuke would be great!
April 21st, 2009 at 1:51 am
That is some weird crap.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:05 am
@ Anon : what a horrible thing to say!
uuuhhhh… japanese lolita… need to go to the bathroom… be right back!! -_-
April 21st, 2009 at 2:05 am
Haha, most of are girly stuff…
April 21st, 2009 at 2:07 am
Very interesting. You should make a list of subcultures in the U.S
April 21st, 2009 at 2:08 am
its ganguro not gonguro, anyways they still exist in university college dublin.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:16 am
11 tplayac: still? I graduated 4 years ago and all the D4 girls looked like that. Shudder.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:17 am
What do Japanese boys wear?
April 21st, 2009 at 2:24 am
UCD is full of them, yes
April 21st, 2009 at 2:30 am
my earliest comment! i need to show my gf the one with the pikachu costume thing. well she would just love this list all together!
April 21st, 2009 at 2:37 am
@ Josh: you’re quite right. glad to here there aren’t too many racist in this world anymore, men like anon.
@ Anon: you make it sound as though what happened in Horishima, Japan’s a good thing. You should be ashamed of yourself.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:55 am
amazing list!
April 21st, 2009 at 2:56 am
Ms. Craven to this day i thought it was horrible, but this list shows that nothing of a value was lost. Geez!
April 21st, 2009 at 2:57 am
weird stuff..
April 21st, 2009 at 3:01 am
And now that you mention racism, what is this: “men like Anon”. What makes you think I am a man? If you think I am a racist, why you automatically assume I am a man? Woops, looks like you are the one with prejudice about gender. Way to go, you racist hypocrite.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:01 am
18. Anon : Yeah I guess, ‘cept a coupla million lives. But they were only Japs, right?
April 21st, 2009 at 3:02 am
20. Anon : Male is the typical assumption for the majority of people commenting here – I myself am guilty of that! That issue would be called SEXism, mate.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:04 am
21. Mark indeed, innocent people right? Or maybe it was war? I can’t really remember. Maybe it was a situation where their government refused to surrender? Maybe they had it coming. I can say I don’t feel a bit sorry.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:04 am
I have also heard that the term is ganguro, not gonguro, just as reference.
Another awesome international list! Very impressive, I hope listverse keeps up this trend and we start to see cultural artifacts from Africa to South America- it can only serve to make a great site better!
As a note about the list in particular, I think its important to note that Japanese culture is notorious for it’s promotion of homogeny, which has always benefited it. Now that the youth has become more globally oriented and exposed to different trends and cultures, you see how they manifest their desire to be individual by carefully selecting a unique array of every particular accesory and ornament. It’s a very interesting study on psychology.
Keep up the good work!!
April 21st, 2009 at 3:05 am
Their water supply is probably full of cocaine
April 21st, 2009 at 3:06 am
Ms. Craven and Anon. Hush hush. No need to fight over this.
Ms. Craven, Anon didn’t do anything to you. Why did you single him/her out?
And Anon, people like her (i assume that she’s a she and not just pretending to be a she), shouldn’t really be taken seriously.
Lighten up, you two. Didn’t you notice? The article is all about having fun!
April 21st, 2009 at 3:08 am
How about Japanese boys? But interesting (and odd) list…
April 21st, 2009 at 3:12 am
23. Anon : Huh? Even if the *government* – and military – weren’t going to surrender, how is the logical next step to blow some completely innocent civilians up? You are a bigoted person, that is quite clear, and the plant that is bigotry grows from the seeds of ignorance. You do notice that these civilians in Japan in the 30’s/40’s didn’t vote? They didn’t have a say on what the government or military – pretty much the same thing at the time – did, directly or indeirectly. Because if you don’t notice this then I can see how you *could* feel *some* animosity towards these people, but given what I’ve just told you, how can you hate them so much?
April 21st, 2009 at 3:17 am
Obviously Anon has no grasp of history, only what he/she has been fed as party line. The excuse that Japan ‘refused to surrender’ is BS that was only trotted out during the Nixon administration. Same as the ‘more people would have died if we didnt drop the bomb’ None of the military leaders at the time the bomb was dropped said that or can be shown to have said it anywhere.
The US bombed Japan exactly days before Russia was legally obligated to enter into the war, which would have allowed the Japanese to surrender to Russia, which consequently would have denied the Americans the sole rights to military and economic control over Japan- it would have to be divided up like east and west Germany.
Since that wasn’t as profitable, they figured dropping a couple atomic bombs on primarily civilian populations (i.e. an act of genocide and a war crime by legal definition) would spur the Japanese government to concede to any demands the Americans made, which stopped the Russians from getting a chance to have Japan surrender to them with complete unconditionality.
Bombing of Japan= exactly three months after Russia commited to invading Japan at the end of a three month time period. The Japanese had already made an offer to surrender to the US, which had full surrender but the retainment of certain economic rights; which had been rejected. The US accepted the same offer after dropping the bomb, with the addendum of econ Basically, they terrorized the population with so much genocide that the Japanese were shocked into submission.
If you do your research, you can find the exact diary entries written by the President of the US and the military commanders in charge at the time. All of them were in agreement that if America had lost the war, they would be tried for war crimes like the Germans.
Don’t believe me; go research yourself!
And Anon, opening your ‘mouth’ without thinking is the easiest way to make you look like an ass… but then I guess that’s why you need to hide behind being anonymous. Cheers!
April 21st, 2009 at 3:17 am
oh great, the btards are invading, you know who you are.
—also, the game.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:21 am
23 anon: You had this coming. I don’t feel sorry for you, too. Haha!
April 21st, 2009 at 3:32 am
30 blitz17: FUUUUUUUU–
also, cool list.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:41 am
Come on guys – play nice
April 21st, 2009 at 3:42 am
29. Mr.Graves : Now who’s regurgitating what their – obviously left-wing – party tells them?
“…an act of genocide and a war crime by legal definition…”
It wasn’t genocide, and if bombing civilians was a war crime then the British must be pretty evil as well.
“…which stopped the Russians from getting a chance to have Japan surrender to them with complete unconditionality…”
Why would Japan surrender *unconditionally* to a totalitarian state, when it wouldn’t to a democratic one? The Soviet Union – SOVIETS, NOT RUSSIANS! – had claims on some Japanese land – most notably, you guessed it, Korea! – in the Far East. The Japanese weren’t going to surrender to the Soviets, they had already bounced them back. It was the allies policy – which the Soviet Union had consented to – to only accept unconditional surrender, to prevent uneven “winnings” gained by countries making seperate peace.
“…they terrorized the population with so much genocide that the Japanese were shocked into submission…”
Terrorized yes, genocide no. Stop using that word, or I’ll pull out all the stops – i.e. Japanese war crimes – to slant the argument back to even and emotionally detached, as fair arguments should be.
“…All of them were in agreement that if America had lost the war, they would be tried for war crimes like the Germans…”
All countries had people that would have been tried for war crimes had they lost.
“…And Anon, opening your ‘mouth’ without thinking is the easiest way to make you look like an ass…”
Wow, sounds like someone else I know.
One on the left, one on the right… Which do I pick?
April 21st, 2009 at 3:48 am
33. jfrater : Awww, do I have to?
April 21st, 2009 at 3:59 am
Um…
Wasn’t this list about Japanese Fashions & Subcultures?
Maybe someone should post a list of War Crimes and Attrocities…
Sheesh!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:00 am
36. Schmaulie : The comments on LV lists don’t generally get interesting until they get off topic, especially on a list about Japanese fashion
April 21st, 2009 at 4:04 am
Wah… change your diaper. Pull out all your ’stops’. I don’t take sides on the issue. I’m more than happy to recount what happened at Nanking to any Weeabo douche that thinks Japan is superior. I don’t care about left or right when people are dropping bombs on children and burning the felsh off their bodies.
Go look up some different definitions of genocide; some, if not all, fit. Your ancedotal ‘evidence’ isn’t evidence at all- it’s rote mewling and bleating like any other sheep- and it’s pretty clear you have an elementary knowledge of the situation at best. Start by getting your hands on the documents that recount the decision making process by US command. Go through the republican leaderships push ‘against’ dropping the bomb and the united movement in the Christian element of American society against using it. They were there; you weren’t. they know what they were talking about; you don’t.
Aw… so sorry I hurt your feelings. Pull out all your ’stops’. It’s not like a thousand other mouth breathers hasn’t recited what their good flag drilled into them in kindergarten. Don’t worry, I’ll rub your back afterwards, draw you a nice lavender bath and make you a cup of chamomile tea. I know how hard it is to be taken seriously for someone like you when they try to play with the grown ups.
I don’t take sides in war. All sides are wrong, some just more than others. Your facts are rewrites of American propaganda that was deconstructed in the 70’s. Catch up with the times, maybe you can bandy about how precognitive your brave leaders were in predicting the evil Russian empire and how they saved freedom and the world by dropping the bomb and showing those evil Russians (you know, the ones that actually ‘did’ save the world and actually beat the Germans and turned the tide of the war) from taking over and stealing all your freedom loving women.
Come back when you have taken a couple university courses on the topic; your lines are tired and old and warning beacons of someone who is just following the propaganda their ‘noble government’ fed them. AKA grade school sloganeering.
And change your diaper; your already full of it.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:05 am
Oh crap, sorry Jfrater, didnt see your post. The previous one will be my last, I wont respend no matter what is said. Sorry!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:09 am
37 Mark I see you are fireing on all cylenders – I like – go for it !
April 21st, 2009 at 4:16 am
Back to Japanese fashion… (straying away from the Nuke debate)… I have to say anyone who finds this list unusual isn’t living in the twenty-first century! Welcome to the future! I know that when I get old I will probably find the young generation to be wearing weird things, but that doesn’t mean they are horrible. Japanese fashion is forward looking, avant-garde and highly creative. While I don’t think all of it is aesthetically pleasing, I have to commend the Japanese on their highly creative, and without a lot of social contraints (unlike the West with its sometimes still present Victorian social control) sense of fashion.
Oh and Anon, if you haven’t been to Hiroshima, I would highly recommend to visit the Nuclear Bomb Memorial (forgot what its called).
April 21st, 2009 at 4:19 am
“If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way.”
April 21st, 2009 at 4:23 am
38. Mr.Graves : Well, if you’re not going to reply again then I guess I’ll have to wrap up my points nicely, here goes.
“Wah… change your diaper. Pull out all your ’stops’. I don’t take sides on the issue. I’m more than happy to recount what happened at Nanking to any Weeabo douche that thinks Japan is superior. I don’t care about left or right when people are dropping bombs on children and burning the felsh [sic] off their bodies…”
Yeah, that is a fair and reasonable comment I guess. I mean, that sounds nothing like what someone listening to what they’ve been told would say, does it? It does just seem so fair and reasonable, not requiring any emotional and moral slant at all. I asked you to argue fairly, all you did was reply condescendingly.
“…Aw… so sorry I hurt your feelings. Pull out all your ’stops’. It’s not like a thousand other mouth breathers hasn’t recited what their good flag drilled into them in kindergarten…”
What flag are we talking about here? I’m Australian, if we’re talking about the Pacific Theatre of WWII my country has the most reason – apart from Japan of course – to be royally ticked off with the Yanks. I’m not regurgitating anything drilled into me, I’m looking at the facts fairly and reasonably. I do *not* think that the bombs were a great idea, but until I here of a better alternative…
“…All sides are wrong…”
Including declaring war on Germany when they invaded Poland? (You really tied my hands here, I wanted to know if you do think that that was wrong, because personally, I don’t, but there’s at least two sides to every situation like that)
“…those evil Russians (you know, the ones that actually ‘did’ save the world and actually beat the Germans and turned the tide of the war)…”
Ok, firstly *Soviets*, not Russians. There were more than enough Belorussian and Ukrainian soldiers involved in that particular campaign that you yourself use to help prove a point, yet you completely ignore them! That hardly seems fair. I do know very well that the Soviets are the reason that D-Day was successful, 165 German divisions tied up on the Eastern Front compared to the 60 odd in the West made it criminally easy for the Allies to march in like heroes.
“…Come back when you have taken a couple university courses on the topic…”
Come back when you feel a bit less hipocritical. Either that or you are leaning seriously towards the left. The points you present are one-sided which makes me draw the conclusion that either you yourself don’t have a tertiary degree on the subject or that your view has been tinted by something else – which I’m assuming would be political.
“…your lines are tired and old and warning beacons of someone who is just following the propaganda their ‘noble government’ fed them…”
Refer to above… If you’re going to be *that* rude I wouldn’t risk slipping up like thaty again mate
April 21st, 2009 at 4:43 am
… and I thought this list was about contemporary and near-comtemporary Japanese fashion and subculture…
My mistake!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:48 am
I totally loved Ganguro (or Gonguro). Such a pity they all disappeared!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:54 am
44. Halfcrown : Well you see… It was… But I thought that maybe we could halt the decline in comment numbers on recent lists… All you need is a bit of controversy and… Bam! 500+ comments once everyone puts in their two cents worth
April 21st, 2009 at 4:55 am
Mr. Graves you should really consider pulling your head out of your ass. Those damn japs started the whole shit. They had it coming. It probably sucked for an avarage japanese that their government was full of pricks, but they got no-one to blame but themselves.
Why should anyone feel sorry for the bombings since Japan started the war, with a surprise attack no less? You can go check what japs did in China. They were allies to Nazi-Germany. You think they wouldn’t have used nuclear weapons? Taking morals in to the war makes you look really naive.
There is no guilty or innocent in war. Only losers and winners. Japs started it and got fucked up, tough luck. You can waste all the sympathy you want on them, but those for me those dresses are well worth a third nuke. Fucking epic!
April 21st, 2009 at 5:12 am
Its true. Japan IS responsible for 65% of wierd in this world.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:15 am
47. Anon : Do you reckon we could get some moderation here? That one was insanely derogetory and racist. I’m all for letting people say what they want – and I am taking his “side” of the nuke or not argument remember – but where do we say enough is enough. Anyway, guess in case you don’t delete it, here goes :
“…They had it coming…”
So did the Jews my friend
“…It probably sucked for an avarage japanese that their government was full of pricks, but they got no-one to blame but themselves…”
Ok, I’ll type this R-E-A-L-L-Y S-L-O-W-L-Y in the vain hope that you will actually read it and pay attention. The Japanese government prior to and during The Second World War was military, they were ruled by a bunch of generals that had come into power via a violent coup. The civilians had *no choice whatsoever* in how their government ruled and the decisions that it made. Thus, to imply that they “deserved to die” is borderline sickening – even to me, the person who thought “Well, maybe we didn’t have any other choice.”.
“…Why should anyone feel sorry for the bombings since Japan started the war…”
Ummm… Maybe because the innocent civilians that died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn’t start the war! Are you completely retarded, or just *insanely* ignorant?
“…They were allies to Nazi-Germany…”
So were Romania, Bulgaria, Finland, Hungary, Croatia, Norway – sort of – Denmark – only passive resistance, Vichy France – tacitly – Italy, Iraq and Syria – don’t *think* I missed any – why didn’t we bomb their innocent civilians too?
“…Taking morals in to the war makes you look really naive…”
No, it makes you look like you don’t want to be tried for war crimes… Rather cowardly I know…
“…There is no guilty or innocent in war…”
The fact that some little things called, war crimes, exist just serves to highlight the lack of thought that went into that statement.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:19 am
Oh and to that miserable, bigoted, hypocritical old tramp Ms. Craven: Why is it racist if I say that Japanese culture sucks? What is so racist about that? You really are a hollow scum of a human being.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:22 am
How terribly disappointing this is
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It isn’t possible to look at anything Japanese without bringing up the war. Anon et al – when are we going to move on?
You are talking about events which happened over 60 years ago now. None of the Japanese people pictured on this list would have been born then – and quite probably neither would many of their parents.
Yes – the Japanese empire was the agressor in China, and it soldiers were committing unspeakable atrocities there. Yes, the Japanese PoW camps were inhumane to the extreme and unspeakable atrocities were committed there too. Yes – we can debate what the stated and hidden motives were for dropping the bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Yes – we can debate the extent to which the general Japanese population was complicit in the Japanese war effort…
But why do we have to do it every time someone mentions something going on in Japan today? It’s not necessary, it’s not helpful, it’s not funny, it’s not pleasant, and it’s not relevent.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:24 am
50. Anon : “…Why is it racist if I say that Japanese culture sucks?…”
Why is it not? Do you know the definition of racism? Skin colour isn’t all that matters, culture does too.
51. Halfcrown : I must say that I find it more disappointing when someone tries to murder a perfectly enjoyable debate
April 21st, 2009 at 5:26 am
Funny story about some Bosozoku I saw in Sasebo once: These three guys were standing next to their motorcycles trying to act very cool. Their hair was slicked back like James Dean, they all wore dark 50s-style sunglasses, had the Fonzie leather jackets and ripped blue jeans with cowboy boots, and they were smoking their cigarettes…all while wearing ‘Hello Kitty’ (white and hot pink) t-shirts underneath their open jackets, all also had Mickey Mouse watches, and two of them had effete ‘man-purses’ slung over their shoulders…they were trying REALLY hard to look both cool and meanacing while dressed like that.
They looked like they couldn’t understand why I was laughing so hard when I saw them! You had to see it to appreciate it, I should have taken a picture.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:28 am
interesting fact !
April 21st, 2009 at 5:29 am
Mark are you serious? Saying something negative about culture is racist? This is certainly news for me.
For example I believe secularism and democracy are great aspects in my culture. I also think that fundamentalism and rights of women in some arabic countries are bad aspects of their culture. Is it racist if I say that I prefer my own culture? Is it racist to say that those dresses look utterly stupid? Are you an idiot?
For the last question the answer is a definitive yes, but I will leave the rest for you.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:32 am
Japanese girls are hot…
April 21st, 2009 at 5:34 am
interesting
April 21st, 2009 at 5:36 am
Mark (52) If the debate is about Japanese subculture and whether or not it is valid to say that “it sucks” then that’s actaully entirely relevent.
I’m not sure it is racist to say that “Japanese culture sucks” – it’s certainly xenophobic – and it is a rather facile thing to say, especially when it’s not backed up by any thoughtful and relevent discussion. But if Anon decides that he doesn’t like Japanese culture I’m sure s/he’s entitled to say that.
I don’t particularly like that yellow Japanese pickled root-vegitable that you often get at Japanese restaurants (does anyone actually know what it’s called?). But on the whole I do find most things Japanese enjoyable, or interesting – or at the very least curious.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:38 am
A list about nutty (but largely harmless) Japanese fashion leads almost immediately to rants about the Bomb?
Come on now. Quit it. All of you.
And Mr. Graves, if you want to argue about the horrible evil of the atomic bombs, you come to me for that argument—I’ll tear you a new one. And yes, smart ass—I DO have a university degree in that shit, so don’t try THAT moronic tack with me.
But let’s not do THAT argument HERE on THIS list. It’s just silly, and there’s something…unseemly and sick about it… for both sides.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:40 am
55. Anon : Wowee, testy aren’t we, I guess I’m not in a position to be complaining
It is not racist to say “I don’t like gender inequality.” it *is* however, racist to say “I don’t like the Arabs, (because of gender inequality).”. The brackets are there because you can read that sentence with or without and it’s still racist. If I say, “I don’t like African Americans because of their music.” are you trying to tell me that that’s not racist?
“…Is it racist to say that those dresses look utterly stupid?…”
Nuh, not in the slightest. But to turn around and say “Japanes culture sucks *because* of those dresses.” and then further expand into the territory of “The Japanese civilians at Nagasaki and Hiroshima had it coming.” is racist, in the extreme.
“…Are you an idiot?
For the last question the answer is a definitive yes, but I will leave the rest for you.”
Yeah, nice one. Now you look insanely smart compared to me. Why do I even bother?
April 21st, 2009 at 5:42 am
Randall who gives a fuck about your degree. You’re still an ass.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:42 am
59. Randall : Lol, what else where we going to comment on? Seriously, there’s only so much interesting discussion to be garnered from “Japanes Fashions and Subcultures”, even with the interesting group of LVers lurking around
April 21st, 2009 at 5:43 am
And I wholeheartedly agree with LordCalvert. The best words of wisdom I’ve heard this morning:
“Japanese girls are hot…”
Yes they are. Yes they are.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:44 am
Mark, you are wasting your eloquence on a drunken troll @Anon
April 21st, 2009 at 5:46 am
58. Halfcrown : Whoops, almost missed yours. *Maybe* saying that a certain culture sucks isn’t racist in itself, but he never even said that himself. All he said was that “the Japs had it coming.” so to speak, I don’t think that he’s entitled to be sharing that opinion here and I am *convinced* that that’s racism
April 21st, 2009 at 5:46 am
Mark:
I thought of that, and I even sympathize to some extent, but come on. Be creative. We could discuss the weirdness of Japanese culture, its bizarro pop-flavored, primary-colored candy gloss existing alongside its dark, savage underbelly of quiet, but nonetheless simmering violence…
Or go comment on another thread. God knows there’s more interesting stuff than this on the site.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:47 am
64. BigwigRabbit : Cheers for your – quite flattering – take on my LV debating ability and the advice. But meh, I got time to kill
April 21st, 2009 at 5:48 am
RandallBites:
It’s actually degreeS, pinhead. Plural.
And being so obsessed with me as to incorporate me into your alias is… kinda weird and twisted, and rather pathetic. I suggest you take the blue pill and then go play outside.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:49 am
66. Randall : Hmm, yeah, heaps more interesting stuff than Japanese culture, sure. But more interesting than exposing a bigoted racist for what he really is, how could you sleep at night if you robbed me of that oppurtunity?
April 21st, 2009 at 6:00 am
This was an interesting list. The blackface and bleached lips thing is freaky. Japanese culture has a lot of subtext, very strange culture at times. But very colorful. Nice educational list.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:00 am
Many of these comments are egocentric. Who cares if they are different, that’s what makes the world go round! Get over yourself and learn to appreciate another culture. Great list.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:06 am
Where can I send $4000 to date an 8th grade Japanese Jr. High girl?
Sure hope Chris Hanson doesn’t show up. . . .
April 21st, 2009 at 6:12 am
Mark, Anon & the other guy:
I bought a racehorse today, and I’ve decided to call him “My Face”. I don’t care if he doesn’t win a race, or makes any money. I just wanna hear thousands of those posh tarts at Flemmington shouting ‘Come on my Face!”
April 21st, 2009 at 6:12 am
Referring to ganguro vs. gonguru, I’ve heard the first term used more often. But according to the book I took my information from: “The first wave of browned-out girls was known as Ganguro, which simply alludes to a very dark tanned face. The prefix Gon was added to the word as the look became increasingly hardcore.”
April 21st, 2009 at 6:13 am
71. Yes Bre I am sure appreciating other cultures is really great. I find the habit of stoning to death to be a particularly refreshing cultural aspect of many muslim countries. It is much more exotic than our way of doing it through lethal injection. The crimes which it is awarded are rather exotic too, ranging from adultery to disbanding Islamic faith. Certainly a great cultural aspect, ain’t it.
And to Mark: it isn’t racist if I say japanese suck. It is an opinion. If I act accordingly, say discriminate them, it is racism. Up to you fuckwad.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:21 am
Fuckwad… Good one, haven’t heard that in about 7 years! Rock on Jack Black!
April 21st, 2009 at 6:21 am
I actually like the Manba, Lolita and Decore looks, they are fun and coulerful and you can express yourself through those clothes. It makes for a lot more interesting street scene than the typical western “jeans and T-shirt look”.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:25 am
Fook Mi! Schoolgirl fetishes… is this where they started?
April 21st, 2009 at 6:26 am
Ignoring quite a few things up the comment list, I’d like to second the idea that a list be done of USA fashion subcultures. Considering our idea of national dress is jeans and a tee shirt, I think it’d be pretty interesting to see the variations. It might also be interesting to see a list of national costumes from an international list. Usually there are good reasons why they are put together the way they are and it could be interesting to see them.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:27 am
Konnichiwa! I love the Japanese and everything about it. I am currently taking lessons along with my daughter and I knew most of these styles. The current one ‘cosplay’ is a favorite in Japan at this time amoung young adults.
The comments were a little harsh. Regardless if you see them as weird, it’s still interesting. No need to go overboard.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:34 am
How do people manage to make an article about Japanese subcultures/fashion into … well, whatever it is about? Lol.
Interesting subcultures though, I didn’t know any of them…
April 21st, 2009 at 6:58 am
@Josh – i agree with your comment at the top of the list.
Great List sophie. It was a different topic for the day.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:20 am
@ jfrater & admin : when will my moderation end? I cant even interact in the discussions accordingly! It takes about 2-3 hours before you guys legalize my comment. Come on, I think I’ve learnt my lesson!!
April 21st, 2009 at 7:34 am
57. LordCalvert
“Japanese girls are hot…”
Kudos – when I was reading the list the first thing to come to my mind was how long will it take for someone to post – “Japanese girls are hot…” -you are the winner!
73. bucslim
“Where can I send $4000 to date an 8th grade Japanese Jr. High girl?”
What are you a pervert!!!
(I don’t have $4000 – I might could come up with $500 to watch though)
April 21st, 2009 at 7:35 am
@59 Halfcrown: That would be pickled Ginger Root. It’s meant as a way to cleanse your pallet between pieces of sushi. Not really meant to be seriously eaten. The yellow stuff is gross if you ask me, but the slightly more pink variety is actually pretty good, tastes a lot less like lemon scented furniture polish.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:35 am
Anon – “…And to Mark: it isn’t racist if I say japanese suck. It is an opinion. If I act accordingly, say discriminate them, it is racism. Up to you fuckwad…”
“Racism” and “opinions” can’t even be categorized into the same group of words, in any aspect. I don’t even know how you put the two together. It was Hitler’s opinion that all Jews should be burned and gassed, but saying he wasn’t racist against them would be quite the most retarded thing I have ever heard in my life. It was the KKK’s collective opinion that anyone who isn’t white should be beaten and hanged, but my guess is, they weren’t racist either. You are a fucking bigot. Get off the internet. Make the world a better place and go eat a handful of cyanide.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:42 am
And by the way, I also have a degree in Fagology. My thesis was on taking it up the ass.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:44 am
How can the Japanese be both the respectful, uptight society you see portrayed sometimes *and* the wacky pop-culture-ridden place you see other times? How can the two co-exist? And these girls obviously have too much disposable income, no doubt siphoned from over-worked, stressed-out men.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:48 am
I think it might be “Daikon” A-Damn (85). This is like a long, white, Japanese radish. The pink stuff is definitely ginger, the black stuff is konbu and the fish flakes are called katsuboshi!
April 21st, 2009 at 7:50 am
For the American male version of Ganguro – google “guidos”
April 21st, 2009 at 7:50 am
stunty (26):
“Their water supply is probably full of cocaine…”
Looking at these fashion statements, I would have to agree! What are these people thinking? It´s almost like they are went psychotic and color-blind all in one fell swoop!
Seriously though, I´ve only ever been to the airport in Tokyo so I´ve never gotten a chance to understand the Japanese culture. Why is it that they are obsessed with cutie characters and “bubble gum” colors? And what is up with anime? What am I not getting?!
I´m definately not promoting jeans and a t-shirt as a fashion statement but (to me) this just went hyped-up crazy in the other direction!
*****
Randall (60):
I was wondering when you were going to weigh in!
And if Mr. Graves actually takes you up “if you want to argue about the horrible evil of the atomic bombs, you come to me for that argument—I’ll tear you a new one…” you let me know so I can watch!
I love it when you do that!
April 21st, 2009 at 7:52 am
Buc…I’m gonna need to you take a seat over here. What’s in that bag there? Taco Bell and wine coolers?
Anyway.
I only knew about the lolita stuff, but I do want to know what those contacts are that the girls put in their eyes to make them look like anime eyes. Those creep me out big time.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:52 am
@87 Randall-
[sarcasm]So clever, I applaud your ability to be a total Jackass to a total Jackass who is actually fun to read. So clever, yes…[/sarcasm]
April 21st, 2009 at 7:53 am
A-Damn (85):
My husband LOVES that stuff… I think it´s gross!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 7:54 am
I always wondered if they put so much effort into being unique because they all look the same? Makes sense no?
April 21st, 2009 at 7:58 am
@95 Sof- I think that’s the history of Japanese culture on the whole. Since its beginning as a nation They were aping ideas from the chinese, and then they go and warp to make it something new, at least in appearance. I love Japanese culture, but this is certainly very true on their part
April 21st, 2009 at 8:02 am
I expected to see Cosplay somewhere, but I guess most of these are kind of related to it.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:02 am
What is this list really about? Japanese deviant girls? It’s useless. Utterly useless.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:05 am
A-Damn (85):
Oh – I didn’t mean the pickled ginger – I do rather like that.
I meant the lurid yellow pickle which has the consistency of beetroot and tastes rather like a stagnant sea-water (well, it does to my uneducated tastes – sorry!). I have seen it inside a maki sushi, but I’ve also had it served delicately carved and together with a pickled cucumber as an appetiser.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:09 am
My only problem with Japanese cuisine is half of Japanese cuisine, the pickled foods. Something just doesn’t sit right on my tastebuds after its been allowed to stew in its own juices.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:13 am
Are these fasions supposed to be different, because they all look very similar to me.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:13 am
@ 99. Halfcrown:
I believe then that you may be talking about “Daikon” as mentioned above by Wally, post 89.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:27 am
Ahh thanks, yes – I missed that one somehow. That would be the pickled Daikon.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:38 am
The host boys of the Dotonbori are interesting to read about. They even have a magazine devoted to them
http://www.eggmgg.jp/mgg/number/
April 21st, 2009 at 8:39 am
@Anon
Since when were awkward fashion trends humanitarian atrocities? And since when did they warrant a nuclear attack? If you’re not a troll, your stupidity is unbelievable.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:47 am
Surley simply being Japanese is an unusual fashions and subcultures
April 21st, 2009 at 8:49 am
I read the book that all of these trends/quotes/even PICTURES were taken from. Whoever ‘contributed’ this list stole everything from the book “Japanese Schoolgirl Inferno”.
You could have at least come up with some new ideas or at least MENTIONED the book.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:14 am
93. the_cloaked_schemer: You are able to sign in under another person’s name and post as them. I’m fairly certain that was not the original Randall. It happens from time to time: some 12 year old idiot thinks it’s funny to post as another person. Happened to me, Randall, Callie, some others- I kind of look at the positive side and think it flattering.
Don’t feed the trolls, people, or you’ll be in it allllll day.
Now, on to the list. I was hoping to see less associations with Ganguro, because there were three on here. What about Cosplay? And there was another subculture that involved wearing leg casts and bandages.
I know some things about Japanese culture, so I was not surprised to see Ganguro, Lolita, and Yanki. I actually found out about Yanki from an anime I watched, Fruits Basket. One of the characters was a former Yanki and they called her that a few times. I finally figured out that they weren’t referring to her being American!
April 21st, 2009 at 9:15 am
callie – watched an entire marathon of that a few months ago. Don’t think I’d be popping out of the closet with a camera to videotape those losers. I pop out with some chloroform and introduce those assclowns to Marcellus Wallace who’s waiting for them on a plastic drop cloth in the basement when they woke up. Gonna get me a coupla hard pipe hittin’ bros to go to work on the Holmes here with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:15 am
a-damn or half crown- that yellow thing is called takuan… and it smells QUITE foul… My dad eats it all the time with rice… i gotta say… sometimes i honestly think the japanese just went out into the woods and dug up every weird thing they could find and pickled it and then served it to their kids during school lunch…
…speaking of another good thread topic!
April 21st, 2009 at 9:15 am
Mr. “About to live out his short ass life in agonizin pain.”
April 21st, 2009 at 9:25 am
107: I cited the book title and authors when I sent it. But it wasn’t posted with my list for some reason. Well, I’ll cite it again here: Izumi Evers and Patrick Macias. Japanese Schoolgirl Inferno. Chronicle Books, 2007. Anyway, if anyone wants to read that book: http://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Schoolgirl-Inferno-Subculture-Handbook/dp/0811856909 But it’s not as though that’s the only source, all of this information is available online too.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:37 am
86. illegal_immigrant – That was well put my friend. There should never be any toleration for racism. The world will be a better place without it and this site is no place to have racism brought up.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:38 am
I like money-frito from the movie:IDIOCRACY
April 21st, 2009 at 9:44 am
@ cedestra- I must have worded it wrong because I knew that’s what was happening, I know that happens all the time, I was just trying to be too sarcastic for my own good or something. I know that Randall would never say that, and I knew it was just a troll, Maybe I should stay cloaked.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:58 am
Great list, I learned several things. Keep up the good work.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:14 am
Awesome list, creepy stuff.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:15 am
Wow, I think that if I put things on randomly in my closet, I would still not have anything that looks remotely like some of these fashions/subcultures. Interesting list! I’ve always wanted to visit Japan, now when I do, I’ll recognize these when/if I see them.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:18 am
i dont know bout anyone else but its people like anon, mark, mr.graves and randall that make lists like this more interesting and make this LV way better not that it isn’t cause its awesome. love this
April 21st, 2009 at 10:19 am
O and on 87 come on guy that was alittle harsh!!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 10:25 am
photoshopped. I can tell by the pixels
April 21st, 2009 at 10:26 am
I love Japan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for the list Sofie! Awesome stuff, very interesting!
April 21st, 2009 at 10:40 am
cloaked_schemer:
*I* got it. And thanks… I think.
Naturally, no–#87 was not me. I am the real Randall, and have been in very dull meetings all morning.
Thankfully, it looks like the atom-bomb arguments dried up. That’s good. Now if we could just get rid of the 12 year old trolls who co-opt other people’s usernames…
April 21st, 2009 at 10:42 am
Where the hell did Hitler come from? Say what; is culture something that you are not allowed to criticize? If i think that japanse culture(or at least the examples shown here) suck, it is racism to you. I am not harming anyone by saying that, it is my opinion and I am free to express it. Maybe the nuking part was a bit over the top.
Anyways illegal_immigrant you should consider introducing a pair of scissors to your scrotum. Just for the sake of human genepool.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:43 am
Randall:
So you wont be tearing anyone up a new one on this list? That´s a little disappointing!
April 21st, 2009 at 10:53 am
Is it just me or does the chicks in pic 6 look like she should be stirring the fudge or collecting snozzberries or chasing that little shit Veruca Salt at that pederast’s candy factory/dungeon?
I mean, what DO you get when you gobble down sweets, eating as much as an elephant eats?
That gal in # 1 looks a little like Go-Go Yubari from Kill Bill. I saw that look when she emptied the dude with the bad teeth at the bar with a Popiel Pocket Ginzu. Fricken Badass man. Then Beatrix pulled her ticket later on. Nothing says ‘good day for a dirt nap’ like a slap to the head with a nailed up table leg.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:06 am
Randall- I have nothing but the utmost respect for you, no sarcasm here
GTT- there is another list (or a few) where Randall tears everyone coming against him a new one on the subject of the atom bomb on Japan, so I’m waiting for another topic for Randall to verbally beat snot out of, those are one of my favorite things on this site (aside from the thought provoking lists of course)
April 21st, 2009 at 11:09 am
124. Anon
I lmao at your post 7 – didn’t even cross my mind to take it seriously. A little tongue in cheek on the dark side, but still funny.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:10 am
Anon? Is that really you? Not some cheap immitation? Where have you BEEN old chap?
April 21st, 2009 at 11:11 am
I can’t believe it… I just can’t believe it… an entire comments section where no one argues about the placement or inclusion of certain items in the list?!
Oh, and to say someone’s culture sucks has little to do with racism; it has to do with Xenophobia, et. al.
#74 – Cheeki – I love that! I never even saw it cominug(pun intended)!
As for the whole war thing and the accompanying display of utterly shameful male posturing… Why do any of you bother? Do you really feel the need to beat a dead horse so thoroughly? Tell you what, why don’t all of you go draw lines in the sandbox, and then fight each other for your playmate’s equally worthless territory… a good analogy for what’s been going on in these comments I think.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:12 am
#74 – Cheeki – I love that! I never even saw it coming(pun intended)![This is what that part should have said; didn't catch it till after I posted it.]
April 21st, 2009 at 11:19 am
I have to agree wholeheartedly – Japanese girls are hot!
I believe however, that these subcultures pop up to promote the sexuality of the “schoolgirl” image. Though, it could just be me as I’ve always had a thing for girls in short, plaid skirts and low white socks. The innocence of it all…………
April 21st, 2009 at 11:26 am
Interesting list! I guess I never figured Japan as fashionable…
April 21st, 2009 at 11:35 am
I’m Japanese and lived there for the past 12 years and I don’t want people assuming that we all look like this…actually I have seen none of these styles in real life, the majority of them are in Tokyo I guess….
April 21st, 2009 at 11:38 am
wow
April 21st, 2009 at 11:44 am
127. the_cloaked_schemer wow dude just marry him already damn!
And as for shadow what makes u think after all this u could come in talking shit dude its done over let it go.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:47 am
#130 Shadow:
thank you!
You too cheeki!
This list is very interesting. I wish there’s a list of most popular traditional outfits from around the world. Minus the irrelevant-with-the-list, not to mention unnecessary public debating, of course..
April 21st, 2009 at 11:48 am
128 TEX It is rather surprising how serious business internet seems to be.
129 You know who I am.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:51 am
Cool list Sofie! It made me happy and I learned a lot; however, I was a little more than shocked at the turn that the comments took
Can’t we all just look at hot Japanese girls together ;D
Visual Kei should’ve had it’s own entry but oh well. At least it was mentioned =D
April 21st, 2009 at 12:03 pm
eric- I reserve Marriage to my lovely fiance thank you, but I will admit that I idolize him atm because he embodies my ideal of a good academic. a bit of an asshole, yes, but that just makes him interesting to my lower levels (ie humor)
April 21st, 2009 at 12:20 pm
SO – back to japanese girl fashion -
where does Sailor Moon style fall in this list?
(thank god for manga/anime)
japanese girls (8th grade or otherwise) are hot, but would be even hotter with slightly bigger boobs.
they are so flat, i think the girls dress this way so that the businessmen can tell them from the boys.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:21 pm
hmmm good answer.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:24 pm
126: bucslim – i agree on both pic #1 and #6.
i could never afford to live in Japan – what with the $4000-eight-grader-dates and the panty-vending-machines and the naked girl sushi lunches….
April 21st, 2009 at 12:25 pm
where are those pesty scene girls?? this list is far too japanese..
April 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I think I would go to Japan just to be on one of their game shows! They do the most outrageous stuff! Ever see MXC…the extreme elimination game? That one is hilarious! I would love to do that stuff!
(As a side note…japanese boys are hot!)
copperdragon: I agree…anime/manga are my favorite. I read it all the time. You can read manga free at Manga Fox.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Dude don’t they blur out all the good parts in Japanese porn?
April 21st, 2009 at 12:31 pm
copperdragon #141 – I’m not sure you’re looking hard enough, there’s entire sites customized to fit your needs.
Er . . . that’s what a friend told me.
(bad thoughts out, good thoughts in)
April 21st, 2009 at 12:36 pm
@Anon: Lol internet.
Nice list, just got back from Japan myself :3. All the girls are pretty much OBSESSED with pokemon, but who isn’t.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:37 pm
General Tits: not always…and most of the “finishing shots” are drawn “internally”
…or so I’m told (by bucslim
oouchan – a good comparison would be japanese guy fashion culture (other than business suits, if there are any)
April 21st, 2009 at 12:40 pm
kate: pokemon the game, or just the pikachu the character?
the game’s been around for at least 10 years.
maybe its comparable to garfield, snoopy, tinkerbell or bart simpson here.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:42 pm
I like this list! I am a lolita, and I have dressed decora, I love both. Although, with the mention of Visual Kei in the same section as lolita, I want to clarify (and I thank the list writer for not saying this) that Mana did not start lolita fashion, it was around before him, he just helped to make it more popular I guess.
Even though I have not lived in Japan, in my opinion certain Visual Kei artists take inspiration from lolita more than the other way around. I agree with someone above that Visual Kei should’ve had it’s own section.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:43 pm
oouchan:
here it is, the link to one of the greatest Chris Farley skits EVER on SNL… the Japanese game show:
April 21st, 2009 at 12:45 pm
When I first saw that, years ago… I was already laughing my ass off by the time they tied Farley up to the “machine” at the end… but I went into fits and convulsions when he cried out “MOTHER MERCY I DON’T SPEAK JAPANESE!!!!”
April 21st, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Ah, Japan. I love your many cultural quirks.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:49 pm
@copperdragon: hahahahaha! very funny! smart
April 21st, 2009 at 12:51 pm
One more reason to stay the f*ck away from japan. I’d go blind once I got out of the plane. Thanks for saving my eyesight, listverse!
April 21st, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Love this list. Very interesting! The Lolita look has a big fandom following in the US. The others are very interesting…I am glad to hear that some died out (ouch!) but others are unique and cute!
For the record, the youth that dress this way certainly do not go to the extremes every day, and in my group of friends anyway, people will often wear jeans and t-shirts during the week, and get crazy on the weekends with our clothing. ^_^ It’s fun.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:05 pm
123 Randall: Naturally, no–#87 was not me.
As if you had to tell us that.
Same with the fake Anon…obviously not the real deal that we all know and love. I mean like.
Unfortunately, I hate to be referencing post numbers in this thread right now because a bunch will likely soon be swept out by the mods.
Btw Randall – Chris Farley = best ever, period. Nice tie-in to this list though!
April 21st, 2009 at 1:16 pm
153. Randall: hahahahaha! I am going to need a change of britches after that vid! That was hilarious! I love it…thank you for sharing! I would love to do that even though its really embarrassing.
copperdragon: True…I am also into yaoi. My daughter and I read them. I won’t go into details to save the delicate readers here.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
108. Cedestra “Don’t feed the trolls…” Right you are! The drunken “Anon” troll has been here all day. I read the list at 5 or so A.M. PDT. It’s now early afternoon. That mollusk must not work. On the dole are you, Troll?
April 21st, 2009 at 1:34 pm
You have all failed as human beings. At least 70% of the comments are irrelevant to this list. Why don’t you guys go learn your shit first before flaming each other on this board. In a month you won’t even remember your arguments on this list so stop wasting your time and go be productive. It’s people like you guys who are causing this economy to fail because of your ignorance and selfish desires to seem superior to each other. Capitalism fails..
April 21st, 2009 at 1:40 pm
161. long time reader. first time poster: Sorry to hear that, but if you really have been a long time reader, you know how off topic these lists get. This one just happened to be faster than most. Thanks for sticking around, though!
April 21st, 2009 at 1:41 pm
If anon isn’t a dude, is it ok to say it’s a racist closedminded bitch? Because that’s what’s coming to mind reading through this discussion. I wouldn’t mind a 3rd nuke if it ment taking out this asshole. Seriously, the world can do without people like you.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:44 pm
General Tits- Those are the laws of Japan, sex between a man or woman must be censored (at leat the really interesting bits) but that is (I have been told by wired for sex) from the laws Japan established after world war two to better emulate the (chiefly) Victorian views of America. This law also bred one of the oddest forms of sexual expression in Japan, that of Demons or (more famously) Tentacle monsters raping women, since the law does not say that porn between women and monsters has to be censored.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:48 pm
comment #7 should be deleted…. that’s nowhere near funny…
April 21st, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Oh crap (egg on face)
Was wondering why he hadn’t jumped on me about Al Gore lately.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Bucslim – copperdragon is right – they’re out there, I might have stumbled across a couple of them before by accident, though they are the product of plastic surgery. Exaggerated surgeries, ludicrously large, nay, humongous pairs of surgeries, at least that’s what I’ve been told.
(copperdragon, you might google yaoi and speak with oouchan)
April 21st, 2009 at 2:26 pm
165: what’s wrong with having an opinninonion, he? that makes YOU the racissist, moran…
and early nagumo movement did rock
April 21st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
76. Anon : Racism is a *belief* or ideology – hence ending in -ism, fuckwad – so yes, it is racist to think that the Japanese suck. To act on that might expose you as a racist, but you are a racist already by holding a belief that a group of people are below you just because.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Demock thank you for bringing my attention to the fact that you are a big blubbering vagina. Cheers!
April 21st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
168 Mark. Do you have trouble understanding what you have read? Where have I said I feel superior to japanese people? Where have I said I think japanese people ale inferior to me? Are you making this shit up? Are you a troll of somekind? Since pulling assumptions out of your ass seems to be your preferred way to argue, I will use it too.
I assume you are a limb-dicked virgin who masturbates to some sick tentaclelolihentaimangajapshitfagcartoon. Hmmh. Gotta say your way results in much more refreshing arguments.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Anon…now don’t jump all over me, but don’t you think that you are going a little overboard here? Your comments are getting increasingly worse. I understood your comment that you made at the beginning of this list…I don’t agree with it but I understood it. I like the Japanese and I think some of their costumes are pretty weird. My daughter loves to do cosplay so I am used to it.
To each his own, I guess.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
TEX – The ‘guy’ who told me this story said they (pictures I saw on the web) weren’t enhanced. I’m going to ‘talk’ (go to the archives of the site) to him again. And after I convince ‘him’ to do some more ‘research,’ (follow suggested links) perhaps ‘he’ll’ provide me with some examples (downloaded high resolution pictures) so that I could confirm this very interesting, engrossing, thought provoking and poignant issue.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
171 oouchan. Sorry to say this but your daughter is a freak. Put her out of her misery.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Anon: Confirmed that you are a troll. You could have been the ‘bigger man’ but I can see that won’t happen. Your comment is not even being considered. Enjoy yourself.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pm
I find it a little strange. The Japanese seem way more creative then Americans. Everything seems to be dark colored and sad, while in Japan it seems to be bright colored and happy, but I am just drawing a conclusion…
April 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pm
175. If you consider putting as much coloured shit on you as possible creative then they damn right are creative.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Hey guys – no need to call each other names – it doesn’t help anyone’s argument
April 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
I can say without a moments hesitation that the Anon making posts on this list is *NOT* the Anon we have all grown to know and love over the past year and so+.
Now, regarding the trends of the Japanese teens: In every culture, in every age, adolescents have looked for ways to define themselves as being different from their parents generation. The usual way to differentiate oneself is through hair styles, make-up, clothing, music, language style etc. Some go further and add tattoos or body piercings, but it still has the same (at the beginning) reason for existence: to mark oneself as a part of ones generation, as opposed to the previous generation. The beauty of all (most) of these marks of change, these marks of differentiation is that they can be, if the wearer wishes, be undone at any time.
Children require a time in their lives when they can, with safety, say “I am different from you! I am me!” Good parents will allow their child to safely explore the limits of their world, and teach them where their limits lie.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Love this list. I don’t know a whole lot about East Asian cultures, so this was interesting to read. I can’t say that I would personally dress like any of those girls- I like my jeans and tshirt- but hey, they sure make the world a little more interesting. The Lolita trend is kind of cute, though… again, I don’t think I’ll be trying it, though.
While I do *not* agree with Anon in that “Japan sucks”, I have to say that I’ve never found Japanese culture very appealing. I fairly good at adapting to new and foreign places, but the idea of living in Japan actually scares me a little. I think it is might be because I don’t speak Japanese, but Japan as a whole just seems so… different, almost like a whole other planet (I am NOT implying that Japanese people are extraterrestrials).
That being said, I do appreciate that Japanese culture exists- it gives me something new to think about and try to relate to… as unsuccessful as I’ve been in that so far.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:14 pm
segue: I knew as soon as he posted the comment about my daughter. The real Anon would have asked about her and how she was doing.
So now we all can play a game of ignore the troll.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Wow thanks Anon for bringing up nukes in your first post and everyone who got baited by an expert troll. Well played.
This is about fashion and subcultures, take your politics to a politics forum. Somewhere where you’ll be schooled thoroughly.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Oh – and segue is right – AnonX is not the regular Anon.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:20 pm
oouchan.
Do we HAVE to? I suck at that game.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
oouchan, since my time on LV is drawing to a close, I am more than happy to point out every troll, every jerk, every annoying *sswipe I notice.
And how is your darling daughter?
April 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
181 LMXV I am not the one who started the whole politics stuff. I only made one joke about nukes and people went apeshit. WTF
April 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
oooohhh, its getting good now fellas.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
cymraegbachgen87: I know…I’m bad at it too, but I did pretty well on the Atheist list.
segue: Drawing to a close? ummmm…what? Where are you going?
She is doing fine. She is much better at her Japanese lessons then her mother of course. I am at level 4 and she is at level 16. I hope to catch up soon. We are planning a trip there next year.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Anon: The “Hitler” and “KKK” part of my statement came from the fact that they are racist. The argument is that you are too. If you couldn’t make the connection, I can only assume that you’re completely fucking stoooooooopid. Let’s break it down, okay?
You don’t need to take on the physical act of lynching a minority to be a racist.
You don’t even need to tell a racist joke to be considered racist.
The mere act of THINKING that someone is lesser than you, or deserved death, or is stupid, or sucks, because of their color, culture, heritage, or ancestry, IS racist.
You dumb fuck.
I say again… get off the goddamn internet.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
184 segue: since my time on LV is drawing to a close
What’s up with that, segue?
April 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
180 oouchan: The real Anon would have asked about her and how she was doing.
…in ten paragraphs.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Can’t we all just get along and play nicely?
If someones acting unintelligent, ignorant and puerile dont rise to the bait.
You only degrade yourself by talking to them, but, as i wish to be hypocritical im not gonna follow my own advice.
@Anon- i took your comment, although offensive, as very dark humour on your account. But the way that you have argued and responded to criticism has left me with no doubt that you are a complete idiot who honestly has no idea how stupid he sounds. The bomb, good or bad, is a legitmate discussion but you approach it like a child. Grow up and Shut up.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
We can’t lose Anon and Segue!
I will take this to the courts! Segue will be made to stay
April 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pm
segue (184):
“oouchan, since my time on LV is drawing to a close…”
Where you going?!? Hopefully you only mean for the day…
April 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Hey. Now the trolls have gone to bed, I can step up. Wow, another Eastern list – and it sounds like the author is also for that part of the world. Is it me or are the pictures VERY distracting. I just couldn’t keep my eyes off ‘em. After reading the same lines over and again without taking in the words, I gave up.
Thoughts? FULL RESPECT to the japanese for being like that. And being able to be like that. I don’t know about where everybody else comes from, but you can’t walk down the street dressed as such in my part of this stigmatic dogmatic world. And that is a GREAT pitty.
Glad to see all the cuffufle on the list was dropped. I think the short posts show that a lot of folk on here were a bit dumfounded. Also glad to see the old Tiger; Randall; is wise enough to ignore attempts to rattle his cage.
Wise.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
ATTENTION: I have finally added code to stop people commenting under other registered user’s nicknames. Henceforth, registered users will need to be logged in to comment under their nickname, and anonymous users will need to use a unique nickname to post anonymously. That is all.
April 21st, 2009 at 3:57 pm
195. jfrater: YOU ROCK!
April 21st, 2009 at 3:59 pm
good move, jayeff
April 21st, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Aw shit i missed Hitler’s birthday.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pm
That was Epic Jay frey, one of the best moves for a while
April 21st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
JFrater: Nice! Look, I know it was getting a bit rowdy in here, but I DID enjoy seeing that guy get stomped with lead feet by everyone in here…
April 21st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
these japanese subcultures seem really…try hard
April 21st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I can’t believe the kind of shit i’ve read on this topic. Sad to see that there are people who think bombing civilians can be a fair decision for a government under any circumstances. Bleargh.
That said, if we assume the size of Japan’s tiny territory, all the culture that people living in this small piece of land produced since it’s early age, from unique food to modern technological advances, put this country beyond any racist crap people may say about it.
And i did not even begun saying anything about japanese martial arts, wich alone would make this one of the most interesting cultures in the world…
April 21st, 2009 at 5:37 pm
The way things are going, it looks as if I will be departing LV at weeks end. I will keep my account. I will keep my nick.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:56 pm
170. AnonX : No, you didn’t say “I don’t like Japanese people”, however you did say, and I’ll quote “And to Mark: it isn’t racist if I say japanese suck. It is an opinion.”, so I rebuked it. Then the best comeback your bigoted mind could come up with was “Yeah, well… I didn’t even say it!”, maybe you should save yourself some embarrasment and the rest of us some pain and just leave.
173. AnonX : Troll to the max…
195. jfrater : What?… No… I have to start my quest for No.1 all over again
202. Bizarri : “…Sad to see that there are people who think bombing civilians can be a fair decision for a government under any circumstances…”
Everyone is WWII did it, I’m not saying that you *have* to be on one side or the other, but one side = Hitler, the other = the Allies, you have to prefer one?
April 21st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
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5. AnonX – April 21st, 2009 at 1:47 am
One more nuke would be great!
HAHAHAHHAHAHA.
None of the fashions here I admire. Visual Kei could be cool, but nah… …
April 21st, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Jfray you reckons you could change some of my more recent comments to MarkL so I can gets me No.1 commentors spot back? Pretty please?
April 21st, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Quicker I mean of course, oouchan still has a couple on me but I’ve been working hard. Or I was until someone came along and destroyed it
April 21st, 2009 at 6:27 pm
These phenomena are understandable in the context of the rigid and suppressive culture that Japanese grow up in until trheir early teens.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:33 pm
MarkL: unfortunately it won’t connect them to your username – a task which is impossible
Also – I would suggest that you register MarkL because if you don’t – someone else will be able to masquerade as you (hence the reason you can no longer use Mark – someone else registered it already).
April 21st, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Japanese culture all adds up = weird. But that’s what makes the japanese interesting.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:41 pm
203. segue: Are we allowed to know why?
MarkL…..you had to start over? You’re kidding me, right? Is that the real you? If so….bwhahahaha!
In that case….good luck!
April 21st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Whew, I haven’t posted a comment in a year!
My country has a growing following minority of these Jap subcultures. I usually see them in cosplay conventions or competitions.
I’m not really a fan of Ganguro, and it’s a good thing it hasn’t caught on here.
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On another note, I used to argue with people over the Internet, especially if I felt that something is terribly amiss. I just realized the futility of it. It is, after all, the Internet.
Good work, jf. Til the next posting.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:59 pm
52. It’s called the Rude Boy style.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Welcome back Rey!
See you next year!
April 21st, 2009 at 7:00 pm
211. oouchan: segue: Are we allowed to know why?
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LV has become overrun with trollz, people have been using other people’s nick’s to everyone’s disadvantage, the quality of the discussions has fallen by leaps and bounds…this used to be a place I could come and have a good, intellectual discussion on any topic under the sun, but in the last four months or so it’s become a middle school play yard with half of the posters using nothing above texting for language, I’m tired of the out-of-nowhere ad hom’s directed at the authors of the lists, I’m tired of people yelling “shopped” when they don’t even know what that entails, I’m tired of the lack of quality which brought me here, and kept me here for a year and a half.
That’s why.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
were the samuri’s japanese and if sp would that count as subculture
April 21st, 2009 at 7:09 pm
215. segue: That’s really sad to hear. I hope you keep checking in no matter what. I really enjoyed conversations with you. Sorry that a few people have ruined the experience for you. I will keep thinking of you.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:28 pm
first of all, prawnfart, excellent name!
and (b) segue, come on, keep commenting, we need you here!:)
April 21st, 2009 at 7:43 pm
This reminds me of a Japanese movie called “Kamikaze Girls” in which a girl who is into the Lolita fashion makes friends with a biker girl who seemed to follow the Yanki fashion I believe.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:48 pm
“were the samuri’s japanese”
You’ve got to be kidding me…
April 21st, 2009 at 8:21 pm
segue: I have dealt with the nickname stealing issue
April 21st, 2009 at 8:48 pm
209. jfrater : I attempted… And failed spectacularly, time for my third (3rd) nick. I know, I know, how could you screw up registering a freakin’ account? But I managed, with some help from the school and their BLOODY CENSORED INTERNETS! And, of course, my school e-mail won’t work – which is what I tried – unless… How long does it take for the e-mail to come through? Because if it’s not that, then I can’t register until I go home (not for a while!), damnit
211. oouchan : Wow, you’re acting nicely today
Enjoy your spot while it lasts, in a month it’ll be long gone, you won’t even know what hit you
215. segue : Well that’s a shame, I hope I didn’t haven anything to do with it. Not that I ever really had a whole conversation with you, but I was looking forward to one eventually, alas… I do hope you continue to visit though, the rest of the regulars seem pretty distraught with your impending departure and I too wish you all the best
April 21st, 2009 at 9:04 pm
MarkLaw: Wow…you had 2 posts and now you are down to 1…bwhahahaha! I’m sorry. I just can’t seem to help myslelf. Well…Let best (wo)man win!
April 21st, 2009 at 9:11 pm
nice list! I like the lolita hehehe
Perhaps this is the japanese youth’s way of creatively expressing themselves and making the most out of their youth coz when they enter society as an adult, they’d become just another zombie-hardworking-employee contributing to their companies. The Japanese are a hardworking people and they do their jobs seriously.
I read a funny comment somewhere that the reason Japan is such a powerhouse is because they don’t take a vacation
April 21st, 2009 at 9:11 pm
223. oouchan : Oh don’t worry, I will
April 21st, 2009 at 9:47 pm
You know its not as strange as you think
I mean if you were an foreigner an you take a look at Emo kids, and Scene kids, you would probably react the same way you reacted when you read this list
April 21st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
MarkLaw: registration should be fast – if you haven’t received your email, send me one to tell me what username you registered and what password you want. It is jamie at frater dot com.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Don’t worry Jamie, I’ve got it, it’s all good. Yays! Now I will beat oouchan
April 21st, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Jaime!!!!! Not fair. Now he’s back. :p
Mark…bring it on!
(you know I’m kidding!)
April 21st, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Do you think it was any more fair when I thought I had to start from 0?
Not to mention that I had an exam today, got a 1500 word Physics draft due next Monday – haven’t started it – got a football game on Saturday ‘arvo – we’re a curtain raiser for the Cap Cougars, how sweet is that, and I might be captaining! – ad infinatum. Oh yeah, and the internet gets turned off at 11pm
You wait ’til next holidays though – after my further futsal commitments – No.1 here I come!
April 21st, 2009 at 10:30 pm
230. Mark….do you hear me playing the violin? Poor you. (evil grin)
I don’t think it will take a week. Most likely it will take you about 2 days. I will root for you!
As for the worst day….I beat you in that…Got up early as the kid had a dr appointment (wasn’t a good one so keep fingers crossed that all is alright) got to work late, nothing worked from the projects I did to the systems I used. Then I had to work at home to finish up and they gave me the wrong into to work from. My head is about to explode so I am going to bed. Have fun in reaching number one while I sleep!
April 21st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
231. oouchan : Wow, that was a bit tougher than mine, but then again I only had one exam today so it really wasn’t that hard – heck, I finish at 1:20 on a Wednesday anyway!
But I wouldn’t sell yourself short, you have a lot more time to post than I do – I think – and you’ve held that spot for a while now
Anyway, have a good night’s sleep, I’ll have a good afternoon/evening LVing instead of Physics assignmenting, don’t worry
April 21st, 2009 at 10:56 pm
To actually post, for the first time on the topic:
My faves are Goth lolita half of the stuff on my comp is goth lolitaand Takenokozoku since Traditional japanese clothing really gets me in the ‘mood’
I don’treally like any of the Gangaru offshots, but that is because I like natural skin, but minus the make up I think that Kigurumin are really cute.
Everything else was kinda basic and so-so on my chart of appreciation but i am shocked at the lack of Cosplayers om the list since a lot of effort goes into replicating (often male) characters.
Oouchan- I know what yaoi is and i am sure that my fellow male compatriots would like to stay in the dark about the subject. My innocence was broken by my best friend Breanna introduced it to me at the age of ten, kinda changes your view on things when your crush likes that sort of stuff… Anyways it is nice to run into another anime fan on this site!
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 am
Mark: how did you manage to start posting under Mark again? Your profile is not showing any comments which makes it look like you are not logged in as the user Mark… I am confused.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:11 am
234. jfrater : I’m logged in as MarkL, just changed my nicky to Mark again… I don’t mean to step on the other Mark’s toes, but I *have* been commenting a lot and I don’t see him much. I just thought *he* could change his nickname instead, seeing as the regulars are used to me using this one?
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:12 am
Either that, or I’m magic… Whichever one makes your life easier Jamie
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:25 am
my family works in japan….
they say their culture is very well respected….
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:29 am
237. leXie : Incidentally, did you know that Arsene Wenger used to live in Japan?
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:48 am
Mark: how did you change your nickname while you were logged in?
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:56 am
241. jfrater : For crying out loud, delete that comment before anyone sees it! I know that’s an issue, but I didn’t think it would become a problem. It probably wouldn’t have if you hadn’t kept pushing me
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:56 am
Oh, and how many people do you think are actually gonna bother? It’s not nearly as easy and just typing “Anon” into the nickname box.
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:38 am
Aw, I missed the WWII debate… no fair. Anyways, on topic, lolita is the best. No question about it. Anybody who says otherwise is lying. They really love Lolita the most. Happy (whichever holiday it is)!
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:43 am
Take a look at ganguro and tell me they don’t need to break out the sirens.
Another nuke would be great! Not having to see her face because it’s between her legs would help me sleep tonight.
Think about it, people would be thankful because they won’t need to rinse the fugly out of their retina’s from having seen that abomination on the streets. This idea would instead grant people coming out(however many years it would take) the awe inspiring sight of that abomination “across” the street(had it not been disintegrated of course).
Because clearly any woman who WANTS to be black isn’t firing to many neurons and would thus have trouble locating a nuclear bunker.
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:52 am
Mark…I knew you cheated! (just kidding!)
I do have more time now to post as I am done with my project at work. A full 3 weeks ahead of shedule. I work faster than the rest so I am always done sooner. I then help my team mates with their projects. Let’s just hope today is better than yesterday. At least my headache is gone!
233. the_cloaked_schemer: Glad you like anime/manga, too! I have been interested in it for about 20 years. I just recently started reading yaoi. My kid loves it, but I have to read it first to make sure it’s ’safe’. Japan doesn’t have the same set of rules that we do. So it makes it fun…some are for me and some are for her. (yeah…that was bad to admit)
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:06 am
242. The Green Gentleman: It’s National Jelly Bean Day.
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:45 am
BLAH BLAH BLAH… infighting
I think we can safely agree the bombing was necessary and we don’t feel sorry for it (the bombing) since Japan started the pacific war…
BUT
We all feel sorry for the innocent or unsuspecting Japanese that died horribly from those attacks.
I hope people are intelligent enough to differentiate between the two.
April 22nd, 2009 at 8:11 am
Ouchan- Does your daughter have a Gaiaonline account? You sound suspiciously like one of my friend’s mpthers, but I could just be a bit paranoid or something. I was introduced to the nsfk Yaoi at nearly the same time, mostly through Digimon and Gundam Wing Fanfics, and a few doujin as well (My favorite Pairing really comes from those Days) and I have been charitable to the idea ever since, much to the pleasure of my fiancee and most of her friends, hell most of my friends. Its amazing what tolerance can get you from people.
April 22nd, 2009 at 8:18 am
247. the_cloaked_schemer: No need to be paranoid…she doesn’t have any accounts but her listverse one. She is only 13 so I won’t allow her to have anything yet.
It’s good that you are ok with yaoi. Most guys cringe just knowing what it’s about. I try to find the cute stories for my daughter. I like them more because 99% of them have a happy ending. I prefer happy endings. It’s all in fun.
April 22nd, 2009 at 8:24 am
Oouchan- Indeed, its all in fun and I wasn’t worried, I guess suspicious was a better word to use. I don’t know very many mothers who are anime fans or at least admit to it publicly. I can appreciate Yaoi because its so, I don’t know, refreshing compared to most relationship stories I have read, most of the time the stories are genuinely interesting and somewhat appealing. I am planning on writing a game script in the future were the main characters are Shounen-ai because it is a very under utilized in many Japanese style rpgs. I think there is an art to writing subtle relationships like that.
April 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 am
the list was pretty shit, but the comments arguement made up 4 it
April 22nd, 2009 at 8:52 am
I can’t understand why wearing black face hasn’t caught on here in the US.
April 22nd, 2009 at 9:14 am
wee a boo
April 22nd, 2009 at 9:43 am
215: segue – of cource, you must do what you feel is right. That’s all we can ever do, at any given moment. Perhaps the troll aspect has been addressed by JF, and I must congratulate him for taking time out to do so. I agree that the LV has lost some of its cult edge now that it has gained so much mainstream popularity; and that this results in, unfortunately or fortunately, many casual comments from readers (and yes, the odd shit stirrer too). The LV, much like many aspects of life, is a game we play to amuse ourselves. Each player has their own take on the game; their own attidues, ideas, standards, and aims; and each find their own methods of entertainment. Some may be enthused by information sharing and a sense of community. Others ‘get off’ on being devils advocate, and more still rigidly stand by what they think is ‘truth’, when in actuality it may only be truth for them. There are heros and villans, and some characters interchange between these at will, depending on that mood they are in, or what they feel is appropriate at the time. There are no rules to this game – and this can be frustrating to some, and liberating to others.
212: Rey “On another note, I used to argue with people over the Internet, especially if I felt that something is terribly amiss. I just realized the futility of it. It is, after all, the Internet.”
This site is in a very special place in the it is – first and foremost – based on factual material. The lists may be sublime, obscure or ridiculous, but are presented not only to intrigue people, but also to enlighten them. And in this virtual arena we can discuss them, and encourage others towards and understanding, a consensus, an awareness, what is slowly spreading around the entire globe.
What is an opinion, are are ones opinions futile? On the contrary. An opinion may transform a persons life – it may turn their world right around – and every opinion has the power and the potential to do so. Talking about issues such as drugs may seem shallow, but a drug user may listen to callie_ and be motivated, inspired. A person living with an eating disorder may read the words of segue and see hope is shining there in black and white. A comment can be heartening, saddening, provoking or dull, but every comment, and every discussion, takes us one small step closer to a general global understanding – so that we may at last appreciate each other as brothers and sisters – a family of the world.
April 22nd, 2009 at 9:49 am
gosh my spelling mistakes – I will not ‘damn’ them – I would only be ‘damning’ myself. In the above comment, the words ‘that’ and ‘what’ can be interchanged.
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:05 am
I don’t have a degree in Physics (My little BS is in Criminal Justice)–But when I was in the Navy,my ship was in Japan for awhile. But truth be told,we usually didn’t get past the “Porthole Bar” which I regret to this day–I wish I had went into the countryside and met the “regular”(so to speak) Japanese people. But I am an “Atomic Veteran”-We were present for 4 surface drops and 5 atmospheric detonations.One of my jobs was taking radiation readings with a Mueller Geiger counter after a drop.There has been a lot of discussion about atomic bombs and WW2 and so forth.And I don’t have a disagreement with anyone’s post. But I’m here to tell you a nuclear bomb is awful.Of course we were dealing with multi-megaton bombs as opposed to the 15-20 kiloton bombs dropped on Japan.But a nuclear bomb is a terrible weapon. I participated in “Operation Dominic” Joint Task Force 8–Christmas/Johnston Island Danger Zones-1962—Pacific–If anyone should want to look it up.–In July the payload on a Thor missle accidently exploded on the launch pad spreading beta particles over a wide area-In 1982 the DOD sent an information/data sheet to all Dominic atomic veterans stressing that “stringent clean up efforts were taken to clean up the contamination”–Ha,Ha-What a crock-I hope to God these weapons are never used again anywhere. If one hits,pray that you’re at surface zero and go quickly
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:27 am
255: smithstar15 – An intelligent story there, and I can’t blame you for being a little obtuse in the last two lines. Yes, these bombs are terrible, and it is always worth pointing out that the modern variations are so much more powerful than the ones we saw on TV. One or two could destroy all our lives – and the polititians know this, as they too would suffer in a rash attempt at justice. You mention several things I wasn’t aware of, so thanks.
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:34 am
Lifeschool–Thanks for your post. I was very lucky-Many Atomic Veterans died of cancer,especially Leukemia,long ago–
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:58 am
Mr. Graves, Mark, Annon, and all of you involved in a political debate. No matter what any of you say or think about the situation; it was not right to kill all those innocent civilians! It is sick to try to justify killing anyone, Go get mental help.
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:03 am
IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN SEEING A SHORT CLIP OF USA nuclear testing in the Pacific,go to the below site and click on the video on the right hand side–You’ll see a little of what my shipmates and I saw.
http://www.atomicarchive.com/Photos/LANL/Dominic.shtml
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:14 am
Actually you would need to go here to see the video–Yes,Yes-I know-I’m not very high tech-LOL
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:36 am
221. jfrater: segue: I have dealt with the nickname stealing issue
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Yes, you did. That’s one down. Thank you.
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230. Mark : got a football game on Saturday ‘arvo – we’re a curtain raiser for the Cap Cougars, how sweet is that, and I might be captaining!
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Congrat’s!
It’s so funny you saying that. One of my daughters is the captain of her Rugby team and , until a year ago, played hooker. She decided that at 29 she was getting too old to play that important position, so she switched to prop. She’s keeping an eye out for young talent (she couches a youth league), so she can get out of the front line. It’ll never happen. She doesn’t delegate.
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:57 am
smithstar15, my dad was stationed in Japan immediately after the signing of the surrender…in fact, he was present for that historic occasion. He spent about 18 months in Japan, going from port to port. The radiation levels must have been quite high in some places because of the shipmates he kept up with, all died of cancers, usually Leukemia but several, including my dad, suffered Multiple myeloma (cancer of the plasma cells). It is still in curable, but back in the 60’s and 70’s when the men of WWII were coming down with it, it was barely treatable.
I still wonder if my own extremely rare genetic disease isn’t connected to his time in occupied, irradiated Japan.
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
I’ll take there Kigurumin over our furries any day. Sweet list.
April 22nd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Segue–Your dad is considered an Atomic Veteran–The half-life theory of radiation had not reduced the ionizing radiation in Japan to a great degree when he was there.He was certainly exposed and it almost certainly caused his cancer.And most scientists now believe that ionizing radiation causes genetic problems in the reproductive process of many atomic veterans resulting in children being born with genetic problems of all sorts and a multiple of other health problems as well.I’m not a physician,of course,but from information sent to us from the DOD,I would say that it is very probable that your genetic disease was passed unknowingly from your father to you due to his exposure to ionizing radiation.
April 22nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I’m fine with Japanese culture for the most part (the young adult styles in the major cities are a bit too bright and bubbly for me), but I find it reprehensible that the Japanese government still doesn’t acknowledge or teach a whole lot about the horrible Japanese war crimes that were committed (i.e. Nanking, human experimentation). I realize their culture is largely based on respect, humility, and shame but sometimes you have to own up to what your ancestors did. If you don’t teach the current generation about the horrible things that a country has done (this applies to all countries, just so no one thinks I’m singling out Japan) then you are at risk of repeating those mistakes all over again. Just my two cents.
April 22nd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
woah weird list
April 22nd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Mark/MarkL/MarkLaw: Can you please explain to me why it’s so important for your nick, not just you, to be f1rst on this list? I’m absolutely puzzled by that phenomenon, please explain. Especially since you can never have that position again on a listverse list: Jfrater has removed any posts like that.
Segue: I’ve been finding my interest in listverse waining, but I still come to check out the new list daily. I’m just not commenting as much as I used to. And the more popular this site goes, the more it seems like we attract what I affectionately dub as the “eBaums a-holes”. You know, 14 year olds who spew forth BS like AnonX and his shock value/flame war. For those that get it, this is the reason why I do not log into trade chat on World of Warcraft.
April 22nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
267. Cedestra : It’s not that important to me at all actually. I just wanted to have a go at oouchan
seeing as I know how much she likes stirring me up. And what list are you referring to? I’m talking about the “Top Commentors” thingy on the About page.
April 22nd, 2009 at 2:45 pm
219. I love Kamikaze Girls! It was originally based on a book, and there’s a manga out for it now I think. It’s a good story, I suggest if anyone is interested in the Yanki or Lolita fashions to take a look at the movie. Just to warn you though: not all lolita are like Momoko, and the movie can be silly at parts, but it’s still great.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
who even posts on lists anymore.. get a life you wierdos
oh wait..
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Cedestra-I agree with your entire statement !!
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Japanese girls have the best style ever, period.
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Japanese teenage girls look and act wierd huh.
So do U.S, English, Russian,Chinese,ect.
Same for boys.
When we were teenagers we didn`t act that way !
April 22nd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
damn I sure learned a bunch about porn
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 am
hey love the list good to know how some pieces of the world look like before i go an explore it oh and im kinda new to list verse anyone know if jfrater is a boy or a girl i only ask so i can grant the proper respects
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:43 am
emptyworld8: JFrater is a boy
April 23rd, 2009 at 3:53 am
261. segue : Hmm, the forwards are rather important in Rugby aren’t they? I don’t know what quality she’s playing, but as a captain myself – one that was forced to play center-mid for a season *puff* so *pant* unfit – and I know that you really do take a lot more responsibility on. You need to do everything for everyone on the team, I’m sure you would have had enough experience with your daughter to know what I mean.
Incidentally I also captain a cricket team, now that was a bad joke. We played together for three seasons, won one (1) game. Cricket’s a frustrating sport when you have a poor team, *especially* when you’re trying to captain
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:58 am
Hey Anon, don’t bomb them again! All this wierd stuff could be the effects of nuclear fall-out still lingering on. Please don’t bomb them again!
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:19 am
Someone ought to make a list about subcultures throughout the world – like countries people don’t usually know much about like from Brazil, Russia, Australia, Greece, Angola, etc…
Kinda tired of reading about Americans, British and Japanese all the time y’know…
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:26 am
My only comment for all those sino-philes who protest the usage of nukes…
Talk to the soldiers and sailors who were there, while you still can. The ones who found American POW’s doused in gasoline and set afire. Talk to the Chinese survivors who had whole villages wiped out. Talk to a POW who survived torture.
All that talk about Japan wanting to surrender is totally one sided. If the really wanted to surrender, they would’nt have delayed.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:24 am
277. Mark: Yes, the forwards are the most important positions on the field, and the quality of her league is excellent; they play against teams all over the West, several states, and are usually written up as the best this or that…she is often singled out for special praise. She just thinks that after 10 years, and reaching the age of 30, she is no longer the swift young gazelle she was at 19/20. She thinks it’s time to get some young talent in there…unless they are again playing for the championship, in which case she’ll return to hooker, because she really is the best one on the team.
As to cricket! God, am I glad none of my children wanted to play cricket (even though I like the game).
April 23rd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
General Tits- Glad to be of service. That particular information falls into two of my favorite topics; Japanese culture and Porn.
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
segue (215) That’s why I left.
Cheeki (72) Check out the youtube video for “Hoof Hearted”
It’s just too funny.
April 23rd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
lol weaboos
April 24th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
I have been looking for good Gothic Lolita clothing stores forever! I really like the ones you have listed, they helped me a lot. But I think 395,000 yen is a bit much(around four hundred dollars in the U.S.).
April 24th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Another subculture style that would have been good on the list is Hime-Gyaru, and/or just gyaru.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
OK I used to love this site but reading a bunch of grown men perving over under-age schoolgirls (japanese or otherwise) just made me feel physically sick.
Forget the nuke argument – since when is it OK to openly discuss paedophilic tendencies in public and not be banned for it?
Very very offensive and poor show jfrater for allowing this.
April 25th, 2009 at 6:13 am
Green Eyes: Yes, let’s “forget the nuke argument” (you know, the one where people are talking about reasons for taking millions of lives) and let’s instead talk about how we should repress our sexual urges. You use the British spelling, but “pedophiliac” means sexual attraction to prepubescent children. The girls in these images (and the girls who follow these fashions) are not 8 or 9, they are young women. Further, it is the women themselves that have gone to great lengths to appear younger. You don’t know that the readership is made up of “grown men”, but anyway, attraction to young women is natural – have you ever seen the rest of the internet?
You are either an uptight Brit or Christian American, correct? Further, you are an older woman who is jealous of the attention younger women receive. Your eyes are likely green with envy. Yes, let’s “ban” everyone who expresses interest in women younger than you – that should help.
April 25th, 2009 at 7:48 am
I will ignore the childish implication you make that I’m ‘jealous’ of the girls in question. I am commenting on the fact that the men on here (and yes, they ARE men) find it acceptable to perv over ‘children’ regardless of whether these actually are children or women dressed up to look like children. Sexual abuse of children has nothing to do with sexual repression and objectifying children as sexual beings is wrong regardless of your excuses for it.
April 25th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Oh and FYI 8th grade girls are NOT young women, they are children. Had you read my original post and actually digested it rather than hurling abuse at my ethnic origins you would have seen that I was making no comment of the females featured in the photos above but rather commenting on the fact that the men on here seem to think it’s acceptable to lust after school children. Which it isn’t.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Green Eyes: I am female. I took none of these comments as the same way as you. That in itself is big. I got into an argument with someone on this very subject on another list. I don’t tolerate this subject at all. However, I found nothing to be offensive other than the comment about nukes. Had any of the comments been such they would have been deleted. That is what the “abuse” button is for.
As for lusting after school children…that was bit much. I didn’t see any of that. My daughter does cosplay which is to dress up as one of her favorite anime characters. That is the same as the pictures above. An elaborate game of dress-up.
I found this list to be informative and fun with even some of the comments that followed to be funny as well. I am sorry that the only thing you got from this list were the negative comments.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:55 am
288. Grow up Green Eyes: You didn’t help with your statement at all. In fact, you seem to be in support of pedophiles. “…instead talk about how we should repress our sexual urges.” and ” You don’t know that the readership is made up of “grown men”, but anyway, attraction to young women is natural – have you ever seen the rest of the internet?”
When did that become ok to go after children? Yes..children…girls/boys under 18? In Japan the legal age is 20. Yes, men do want a younger looking woman. But let’s say adult…not underage. If you are the same age, ie. 16 or 17 as she is, then that is fine. Being 40 and going after an 16 or 17 year old is sick.
All in all, your comments proved that you think that it would be ok for older men to date younger women. So in defense of Green Eyes…you must be a sexually repressed male, overweight who is lusting after younger girls who wouldn’t look at you in the slightet if they were paid. You are also a troll who doesn’t know what you are talking about.
Epic fail on your part, mate.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:28 am
i like number 9 and 10. there so cute! but is Kigurumin just like cosplaying??
April 25th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Oouchan – I was commenting on specific comments (quoted below) about hiring an 8th grade schoolgirl for $4k – I think that’s pretty offensive;
‘japanese girls (8th grade or otherwise) are hot, but would be even hotter with slightly bigger boobs.’
‘i could never afford to live in Japan – what with the $4000-eight-grader-dates and the panty-vending-machines and the naked girl sushi lunches….’
Agreed cosplay, in the main, is innocent and fun – wondering aloud (however ‘jokingly’) about hiring a schoolgirl is far from acceptable – I’ve no issue with the creative and genuinely fun-side of Japanese culture and to be honest I love it – but it’s naive of anyone to think that there isn’t a vile underbelly to it (which you seem to be well aware of as you regulate your daughter’s reading material which is all credit to you – if only all parents were as informed).
I know the commenters responsible for the comments above are going to say they are ‘joking’ but to me joking about it simply isn’t anything except offensive in the extreme.
BTW – cheers for the response to the troll above, LOL
April 25th, 2009 at 11:01 am
“I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought but I do know that World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones”–
Albert Einstein
April 25th, 2009 at 11:20 am
I like the chinese one.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:20 am
The gurl in the pic, I mean.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Mother fucking Japanese.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Extremely nice list. This 50 year old African American is always fascinated how each generation attempts to find it’s own identity. #’s 4 thru 10 were extremely appealing!
April 26th, 2009 at 7:43 am
Interesting article, until the weinerheads come out and post stupid shit and start to whine…then it becomes mildly amuzing.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:38 am
i enjoyed watching these videos. japanese have nice clothes and faces. unlike the ones from china, wich look chinese.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I’d just like to make the point that these styles are very much subcultures in Japan! I’ve only ever seen them in Tokyo, and even then you have to actively go looking for it. Most people wear what would be considered totally normal clothing!
April 27th, 2009 at 7:30 am
87- How can the Japanese be both the respectful, uptight society you see portrayed sometimes *and* the wacky pop-culture-ridden place you see other times? How can the two co-exist?
Same way “all women” are either sluts or frigid. We like to split the world into dichotomies, neccesary binary opposites. It’s just easier to be racist that way.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
@ Anon… You’re a moron! What the Japanese did to the allied troops during the war was wrong but if you understood Japanese culture you’d at least partly understand it.
To say they need another bomb… wow! Xenophobic much?
April 27th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Is the need to feel unique this extreme? It looks like it is.
The cute accessories is the most I like, and also the girls who dress infantile, except the reason, that is for money. Sukeban is also interesting and original xD, but I find the Lolitas somewhat annoying.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Cool List!
I knew they were a bit wacky in Modern Japan, but I had no Idea they rolled in Gangs, and put foundation meant for Black Women, on.
Mental, yet Insanely Cool at the same time!
April 28th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
you do know most of them are boys who dress this way, right?
also visual kei bands are all males.
April 29th, 2009 at 4:18 am
I really like the Kigurumin!!! IT IS SO DARN CUTE!!!!!
April 29th, 2009 at 11:25 am
The Japanese culture is no longer the unique elegant style that it used to be. Japan has become westernized quite a bit. Its such a shame. Trends like the Lolita are cute, but I cannot comprehend how those girls are okay with wearing black makeup, and looking like clowns. Then again, I cannot comprehend why people think it is okay to wear Ugg boots, Crocs, and have those stupid poof ponytails.
Really, it’s all just a matter of your opinion.
I just hope that the next generation in Japan will embrace both their traditional ways and these new trends at the same time.
April 29th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
ha thnks well mr.frater i really apreciate all the boring days that where saved by this place
April 30th, 2009 at 10:12 am
In premodern times Japanese women blackened their teeth… that part wasn’t so elegant!
April 30th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Well, I think that Japan is one of the coolest cultures on the planet today.
I was in Tokyo for the first time two weeks ago and my estimation of what I found there is that, culturally, it seems to have matured a lot – more than other societies.
They have a long history, in which they have always striven to perfect the way things are done – use the tea ceremony as an example. And from those roots they have become a modern, culturally-rich society with these fun and unusual expressions of individual and social identity.
And such polite, friendly and interesting people to boot.
The world would be a better place if all countries concentrated more on creative individual expression of identity and less on “drop another god-damn nuke” (AnonX) mindlessness or mass produced, Hollywood-inspired, follow-the-herd, take-a-number-and-get-in-line pop pop culture that’s so abundant in Europe and the U.S.
The West could learn a lot from the Japanese.
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Wow, just wow. All this bickering and sneering started by the mere mention of something Japanese. This just goes to show you how even after over 60 years later the guilt, shame and sorrow that came after the decision to drop the bombs on Japan still haunts the decendants of those that lived in those times. But I also see the bigotry, hate and utter insanity that led to that decision so long ago and will likely lead to a similar decision down the road.
Things happened in the past, horrible, horrible things. We can only count ourselves lucky that we did not live in those times and experience the savagery first hand. You sit here and argue back and forth about something that happened in the past. It was horrible and in my opinion the darkest time in my Nations’ history.
People often say that “Those who forget the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them.”, while this is true I say that those who spend all their time looking backwards cannot see what is right in front of them.
It happened once before, what makes us think that it can’t again? Instead of worrying about past mistakes, contemplate on how to prevent future ones.
May 3rd, 2009 at 4:56 pm
amen sugarllama
May 4th, 2009 at 3:08 am
I utterly love Lolita, though visual kei is awesome too….a bit sad that it wasn’t added. I love all the Japan cultures and styles fasinating and really wish there was stuff like that in America, although I could never see myself Manba or Ganguro.
May 6th, 2009 at 4:06 am
That Lolita fashion is fucked up… I don’t think I could bring myself to date a girl dressed like a young child, y’know?
Reading about Ganguro, I was laughing at the whole “black face” thing cos it reminded me of Al Jolson. Then I stopped laughing when I realised that there are girls where I live who look like that…
In conclusion: orange is not a sexy colour. Lady Gaga is not attractive.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am
oouchan:Konichiwa…Having lived with ‘duck and cover’ and air raid siren tests, Cuban missile crisis etc. we also perpetrated some strange clothing styles…teddyboys..then long hair bell bottoms and of course free love. Rebellion against the MACHINE..I’m sure nuclear holocaust would leave a certain zeitgeist with the youth. On the hypocrisy of war;
American bankers and corporations including the Bush family
bankrolled Hitler…millions killed for corporate profit!!!
Who will be next?? Genki des arigato!!
May 14th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Since there is talk of war,and Mana Sama is mentioned in this list,I thought Id mention that Mana’s grandfather fought in WWII. Not a commonly known fact,Im sure :]
May 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Hey!! Lolita’s not that bad!!!
I’m kinds disappointed that vk isn’t on here but i love vk people
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:01 am
I love the Japanese!!!!! I wish I lived in Japan! It would be so fun! Japanese men are sexy…….where are the Japanese men? lol.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 am
Heh. I saw someone today wearing the Lolita style. Decora is something I see occasionally, too. Ganguro is pretty rare these days, but Manba is more popular. I see it on TV, but if I go to Shibuya, I may see it. But usually, I don’t see any of these styles at all.
July 25th, 2009 at 11:17 am
you ought to do one on american fashion. that would interesting..
September 29th, 2009 at 5:21 am
So it’s true. The Japanese ARE weird!
September 30th, 2009 at 12:20 am
Japanese are so cute!
October 4th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Japanese are horrible horrible sad and antisocial people!
October 6th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Yay! I love decora and lolita :p
October 16th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
The Yankee style extends now to include poor-white-trash types.
Usually, they drive cars that are dark-purple in colour and wear white tracksuits. They usually dye their hair a light brown colour.
The term Yankee comes from Japanese people having witnessed the Americans behaviour in japan post-war and so, should a native behaviour in a bad or anit-social way, they are called Yankee.
A fine legacy, I think not.
As to the war. Hey, nobody here cares a s__t about it. Cause, should you have te chance, watch the intro of The Watchmen movie. Look for the scence with Enola Gay bombing Nagasaki. Listen to Bob Dylan’s lyrics
“cause he who has lost, shall later win”.
October 28th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Where in the world would you see sexists and racists in one? Well of course, HERE!
I really disapprove discrimination.
People who discriminate are actually dumb and stereotypical.