Top 10 Most Evil Women
Published on September 9, 2007 - 283 Comments
We all tend to focus on the evil men in the world and forget some of the truly evil women that have lived. I hope to correct that with this list. Here we have not just serial killers, but other utterly despicable women who have caused tragedy in many people’s lives. So, without further ado, here are the top 10 most evil women in history.
10. Queen Mary I Born: 1516; Died: 1558
Mary was the only child of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon to live past infancy. Crowned after the death of Edward VI and the removal of The Nine Days Queen-Lady Jane Grey, Mary is chiefly remembered for temporarily and violently returning England to Catholicism. Many prominent Protestants were executed for their beliefs leading to the moniker “Bloody Mary”. Fearing the gallows a further 800 Protestants left the country, unable to return until her death. It should be noted that Elizabeth I shares position 10 on this list for her equally bad behavior.
9. Myra Hindley Born: 1942; Died: 2002
Myra Hindley and Ian Brady were responsible for the “Moors murders” occurring in the Manchester area of Britain in the mid 1960’s. Together these two monsters were responsible for the kidnapping, sexual abuse, torture and murder of three children under the age of twelve and two teenagers, aged 16 and 17. A key found in Myra’s possession led to incriminating evidence stored at a left-luggage depot at Manchester Central Station. The evidence included a tape recording of one of the murder victims screaming as Hindley and Brady raped and tortured her. In the final days before incarceration, she developed a swagger and arrogant attitude that became her trademark. Police secretary Sandra Wilkinson has never forgotten seeing Hindley and her mother Nellie, leaning against the courthouse eating sweets. While the mother was obviously and understandably upset, Hindley seemed indifferent and uncaring of her situation.
8. Isabella of Castile Born: 1451; Died: 1504
Isabella I of Spain, well known as the patron of Christopher Columbus, with her husband Ferdinand II of Aragon, are responsible for making possible the unification of Spain under their grandson Carlos I. As part of the drive for unification, Isabella appointed Tomás de Torquemada as the first Inquisitor General of the inquisition. March 31, 1492 marks the implementation of the Alhambra Decree; expulsion edicts forcing the removal or conversion of Jews and Muslims. Roughly 200,000 people left Spain; those remaining who chose conversion were subsequently persecuted by the inquisition investigating Judaizing conversos. In 1974, Pope Paul VI opened her cause for beatification. This places her on the path toward possible sainthood. In the Catholic Church, she is thus titled Servant of God.
7. Beverly Allitt Born: 1968
The “Angel of Death, Beverley Gail Allit, is one of Britain’s most well known serial killers. Working as a pediatric nurse, she is responsible for the murder of 4 children and the serious injury of 5 others in her care. When available, insulin or potassium injections were used to precipitate cardiac arrest; smothering sufficed when they were not. Although convicted with death or injury in nine cases, Allit attacked thirteen children over a fifty-eight day period before being caught red-handed. Allit has never spoken of the motive for her crimes, but Munchausen’s Syndrome by Proxy explains her actions. This debatable personality disorder involves a pattern of abuse or harm to someone in your care in order to garner attention (Alitt was known as a child to wear bandages and casts over wounds, but would not allow them to be examined).
6. Belle Gunness Born: 1859; Died: 1931
Belle Gunness was one of America’s most degenerate and productive female serial killers. Standing 6 ft (1.83 m) tall and weighing in at over 200 lbs (91 kg), she was an imposing and powerful woman of Norwegian descent. It is likely that she killed both her husbands and all of her children at different times, but it is certain that she murdered most of her suitors, boyfriends, and her two daughters, Myrtle and Lucy. The motive was greed-pure and simple; life insurance policies and assets stolen or swindled from her suitors became her source of income. Most reports put her death toll at more than twenty victims over several decades, with some claiming in excess of one hundred. Inconsistencies during her post mortem examination; the corpse was reported to be two inches shorter than Belle’s six feet, paved the way for Belle Gunnes to enter American criminal folklore, a female Bluebeard.
5. Mary Ann Cotton Born: 1832; Died: 1873
Englishwoman Mary Ann Cotton is another for-profit serial killer, predating Belle Gunnes by thirty years. Married at age twenty to William Mowbray, the newlyweds settled in Plymouth, Devon, to start their family. The couple had five children, four of whom died of ‘gastric fever and stomach pains’. Moving back to the north-east, tragedy seemed to follow them; three more children born, three more children died. William soon followed his offspring, dying of an ‘intestinal disorder’ in January 1865. British Prudential promptly paid a 35 pound dividend, and a pattern was established. Her second husband, George Ward, died of intestinal problems as well as one of her two remaining children. The power of the press, always a force to be reckoned with, caught up with Mary Ann. The local newspapers discovered that as Mary Ann moved around northern England, she lost three husbands, a lover, a friend, her mother and a dozen children, all dying of stomach fever. She was hanged at Durham County Gaol, March 24, 1873, for murder by arsenic poisoning. She died slowly, the hangman using too short a drop for a ‘clean’ execution.
4. Ilse Koch Born: 1906; Died: 1967
“Die Hexe von Buchenwald” the Witch of Buchenwald, or “Buchenwälder Schlampe” the Bitch of Buchenwald was the wife of Karl Koch, commandant of the concentration camps Buchenwald from 1937 to 1941, and Majdanek from 1941 to 1943. Drunk on the absolute power rendered by her husband, she reveled in torture and obscenity. Infamous for her souvenirs; tattoos taken from the murdered inmates, her reputation for debauchery was well earned. After building an indoor sports arena in 1940, with 250,000 marks stolen from inmates, Ilsa was promoted to Oberaufseherin or “chief overseer” of the few female guards at Buchenwald. She committed suicide by hanging herself at Aichach women’s prison on September 1, 1967.
3. Irma Grese Born: 1923; Died: 1945
Another product of the Nazi’s final solution, Irma Grese or the “Bitch of Belsen” was a guard at concentration camps Ravensbrück, Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen. Transferred to Auschwitz in 1943, (she must have shown particular enthusiasm and dedication to the job), she was promoted to Senior Supervisor, the 2nd highest ranking female in camp, by the end of the year. In charge of over 30,000 Jewish female prisoners, she reveled in her work. Her work included; savaging of prisoners by her trained and half starved dogs, sexual excesses, arbitrary shootings, sadistic beatings with a plaited whip, and selecting prisoners for the gas chamber. She enjoyed both physical and emotional torture and habitually wore heavy boots and carried a pistol to facilitate both.
2. Katherine Knight Born: 1956
The first Australian woman to be sentenced to a natural life term without parole, Katherine Knight had a history of violence in relationships. She mashed the dentures of one of her ex-husbands and slashed the throat of another husband’s eight-week-old puppy before his eyes. A heated relationship with John Charles Thomas Price became public knowledge with an Apprehended Violence Order that Price had filed against Knight and ended with Knight stabbing Price to death with a butcher’s knife. He had been stabbed at least 37 times, both front and back, with many of the wounds penetrating vital organs. She then skinned him and hung his “suit” from the door frame in the living room, cut off his head and put it in the soup pot, baked his buttocks, and prepared gravy and vegetables to accompany the ‘roast’. The meal and a vindictive note were set out for the children, luckily discovered by police before they arrived home.
1. Elizabeth Bathory Born: 1560; Died: 1614
Countess Elizabeth Bathory is considered the most infamous serial killer in Hungarian/Slovak history. Rumors had circulated for years about missing peasant girls; offered well paid work at the castle, they were never seen again. One of these rumors reached the ears of King Mathias II, who sent a party of men to the massive Castle Csejthe. The men found one girl dead and one dying. Another was found wounded and others locked up. Described atrocities, collected from testimony of witnesses, include; severe beatings over extended periods of time, the use of needles, burning or mutilation of hands, sometimes also of faces and genitalia, biting the flesh off the faces, arms and other bodily parts, and the starving of victims. The victim total is thought to number in the hundreds occurring over a twenty-five year period. Due to her social status she was never brought to trial but remained under house arrest in a single room until her death. The idea that the Countess bathed in the blood of her victims is folklore, and one of the few things she did not do.
Note: In order to clear one point up, Lizzie Borden is not on this list because she was found innocent of the murder of her parents.
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1. JT - September 9th, 2007 at 6:28 am
Excellent list. I was waiting for Bathory and was getting worried you had negelected her…
However, I think you neglected Aileen Wuornos, who brutally killed seven men, whom she accused of rape.
And Rosemary West, perhaps the most horrifc female serial killer since Bathory.
Or even Marybeth Tinning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marybeth_Tinning, who killed 9 of her children, smothering each one shortly after it was born.
Oh, and kudos on the site. I love being able to come here everyday and find new lists. Keep up the good work!
2. jfrater - September 9th, 2007 at 7:25 am
JT: Thanks for adding those extras. I did consider Aileen Wuornos but she narrowly missed out. As for West, there is some doubt that she actually assisted in the murders - whereas with Hindley we have audio evidence. I am glad you like the site
3. boy - September 9th, 2007 at 7:58 am
Evil nurses are quite a breed.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/no.....index.html
4. jfrater - September 9th, 2007 at 8:01 am
boy: it is scary how many there are.
5. dalandzadgad - September 9th, 2007 at 8:17 am
it’s scary that irma grese was only around 20 years old when she commited those crimes..
6. Hannah - September 9th, 2007 at 9:21 am
And just think how many people have gotten away with crimes like these, especially way back when!!! Scary.
7. Michael - September 9th, 2007 at 9:48 am
The list might have more credibility if it did not repeat the propaganda falsehoods about Koch amd Grese.
8. jfrater - September 9th, 2007 at 9:57 am
Michael: What specifically is not true? Are you saying they were wrongly found guilty of the crimes listed?
9. sumdumguy - September 9th, 2007 at 10:26 am
You missed #1 and #2 b a mile
Wu Zetian
Tzu Hsi
10. sumdumguy - September 9th, 2007 at 10:29 am
You missed #1 and #2 by a mile
Wu Zetian
Tzu Hsi
11. Quizzical1 - September 9th, 2007 at 10:49 am
What about Karla Homolka? Alive, still young, and free and walking on the streets today!
I don’t think Lizzie Borden should have been on there anyway, but: it’s pretty certain she killed her parents (father&step-mother), despite being found not-guilty. While evil, not MOST evil.
I wouldn’t have put Isabella of Castile on there, either. Expelling the Jews was actually a not-as-evil thing as what the Portuguese did, but their actions are less well-known. Also, she explicitly stated she wanted the Native Americans to be kindly treated. That she wasn’t listened to is not enough to condemn her. She inadvertently financed genocide. But didn’t knowingly do so. A case of “the road to hell is paved with good intentions.” There are a lot more women out there who have knowingly encouraged such horrors.
12. jfrater - September 9th, 2007 at 11:12 am
sumdumguy: I was so close to putting Tzu Hsi on the list!
Quizzical1: There are problems with Homolka - It was a toss up between her and Myra - Myra won because of the torture tape.
13. VibroCount - September 9th, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Dorothea Puente might have been considered among these.
14. jfrater - September 9th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
VibroCount: believe me - she was on the list for consideration.
15. WILLOBIE - September 9th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Also see “Blood Countess”, an historical novel by Andrei Codrescu about Countess Bathory. She is also the person behind the recent movie, “Stay Alive”. In fact she is the subject of 23 films since 1970.
16. Loose Cannon - September 9th, 2007 at 12:39 pm
What, no Condi Rice or Laura Bush from the left-wing nuts in the comments section? I’m disappointed!
17. jfrater - September 9th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Loose cannon: give it time
Willobie: Thanks for mentioning that - I will try to find it.
18. chuck - September 9th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
MRS. BILL CLINTON
HILLARY!
19. dalandzadgad - September 9th, 2007 at 1:03 pm
for Loose Cannon: where’s Condi Rice?!
20. Rachel - September 9th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Myra Hindley only #9? Thought she would have got a much higher spot, evil bitch.
21. Loose Cannon - September 9th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
dalandzadgad: Thanks! I knew you had it in you.
22. Anders Chydenius - September 9th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
By the way, you left my ex-wife off the list. Granted, she didn’t actually kill anyone, but still…
23. Brad Shue - September 9th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
You left off my ex wife, Kimberly Kay Stonesifer
24. Loose_Cannon - September 9th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Anders: That’s just because they haven’t discovered the bodies yet, if she’s anything like my ex-wife.
25. jfrater - September 9th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Loose cannon: thanks
26. Loose_Cannon - September 9th, 2007 at 2:06 pm
jfrater: One of my most treasured books from my youth is the Book Of Lists by Irving Wallace, David Wallechinsky and Amy Wallace, originally published in 1977. I remember reading it over and over again when I was a kid. On a recent cross country trip with my wife, I took out my well worn copy and read various passages to my wife. She had never read anything like it in her life.
So when I found your website, I was overjoyed! Every new list is like some new present to open on Christmas morning.
Sure the lists are subjective to opinion, but what nobody can argue is that they aren’t informative and entertaining.
What I would really like is to be able to add my own lists. I love history and politics. I would like to be able to submit to add my own opinionated thoughts for consideration.
27. Alfred - September 9th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
I don’t see Karla Holmokka on the list, she AIded in three bad and degrading deaths, which included torture, sexual abuse and death, and one death where she’s suspected is her own sister that was abused before her demise.
28. lulz - September 9th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Where’s Susan Smith?
29. tjgrs - September 9th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
loose cannon…i love that book as well and it this site really is like the book, one of the reasons i love coming to this site.
30. Big B - September 9th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
I nominate Brenda Ann Spencer, whose famous quote illustrates her lack of remorse for shooting at kids “I don’t like Mondays”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Ann_Spencer
31. W.J. Clinton - September 9th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
what about my wife Hilliary ? #7 is kinda cute.
32. [TEA] - September 9th, 2007 at 5:55 pm
This list is rather inaccurate and poorly made. There are far more evil women who should be on the list and there is blatant catholic bashing.
For example, Elizabeth I persecuted catholics, yet she’s not even mentioned as a runner up. A lot of other murderers I could list and evil historical female figures that I could list, but aren’t here.
Another inaccuracy, for example:
Lizzie Borden was not convicted because an all male jury could not bring itself to fathom a woman was capable of such a heinous crime. The facts, however, all lead to one conclusion: that she did it
Conclusion: Phail. -_-;;
Try again.
33. Matt - September 9th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
Where’s Ann Coulter on this list?
34. Don - September 9th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Lizzie Borden was NOT found “innocent.” She like ever other accused who is tried and not convicted was found “not guilty.” Which simply means the prosecution could not convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that a person was guilty. By no means does it mean the person was “found innocent.”
It is not uncommon for jurors to state that they believed an accused did it, or even probably did it but that they refused to convict because they weren’t certain beyond a reasonable doubt. Not guilty does not mean innocent. (*cough* OJ *cough*)
35. ajax6677 - September 9th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
“Michael | September 9th, 2007 at 9:48 am
The list might have more credibility if it did not repeat the propaganda falsehoods about Koch amd Grese.”
Ha. Sounds like someone is in denial about the holocaust.
36. Loose_Cannon - September 9th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
Don and TEA: Lizzie Borden killed her father and her step mother. Elizabeth Bathory killed 10’s, possibly hundreds, of people.
At best, Lizzie Borden was a sick girl, but she was no more evil then any other multiple murderer in this country. What set these women apart, what sets all evil people apart, is the grotesque ability for them to manipulate their power to a point where they can decide on the fate of multiples of people’s lives.
All these women, and even some others mentioned, had the power and ability to take multiple lives in such a horrendous way that they’re names are reserved are for the very worst from the female sex.
I would not fear Lizzie Borden today, if she were alive. I would fear all the people on this list if I lived during their time.
37. COMALite J - September 9th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
Guns don’t kill people. Gunnesses do.
38. jfrater - September 9th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
COMALite J: Funny
39. chadster - September 10th, 2007 at 12:01 am
Belle Gunness reminds me of Kathy Bates in the movie misery lol. Very nice list btw, i hadn’t really heard of these evil women before, kinda sad really.
40. jfrater - September 10th, 2007 at 12:08 am
chadster: to be honest, before starting the list, I only knew of 5 of them. It is strange that we don’t seem to know about all the evil women but do know the evil men.
41. Reea - September 10th, 2007 at 1:57 am
jfrater has the best lists on the internet
42. jfrater - September 10th, 2007 at 2:57 am
Reea: heh thanks
43. LJ - September 10th, 2007 at 4:50 am
quoting: “There are problems with Homolka - It was a toss up between her and Myra - Myra won because of the torture tape.”
I do believe she was the one behind the camera, videotaping as her husband brutally attacked her own SISTER and then stuff her mouth with cloth, where she gagged, threw up and died.
Ummm…yeah…no torture tapes AT ALL!
44. mark p.s. - September 10th, 2007 at 6:47 am
forgot Karla Homolka
Karla Homolka
45. Lisa W - September 10th, 2007 at 7:18 am
Karla Homolka is number 1. She raped and murdered her own sister among others, and video taped her multiple murders.
46. Siope - September 10th, 2007 at 7:24 am
In Tony Thorne’s book “Countess Dracula,” the history of Erzsebet Bathory is explored more thoroughly than simply repeating the regurgitated legends. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in another view of the story. Is it possible that Countess Bathory was set up?
47. lil italian - September 10th, 2007 at 9:52 am
#11. How is Katherine Knight more evil than the “Bitch of Buchenwald”?
48. jfrater - September 10th, 2007 at 10:01 am
lil italian: she cooked her husband and dished him up for his children’s dinner - I think that makes her pretty damned bad.
49. sakul - September 10th, 2007 at 10:19 am
Ha. Sounds like someone is in denial about the holocaust.
…
There is not a shred of proof in the historical record about the alleged ‘holocaust’ crimes. All there is is word of mouth from the trials. There was NO solid hard proof of any of those crimes… ya know, proof… you usually need it in a criminal trial…
look it up… it was all word of mouth with regards to the holocaust. (nuremberg, etc.)
50. jfrater - September 10th, 2007 at 10:52 am
sakul: here is a wartime photograph of a variety of the Tattoos that Ilse Koch had collected as souvenirs. There is physical proof of what she did.
51. sakul - September 10th, 2007 at 11:02 am
Yeah, I don’t see any tatoos there… why don’t you mention that she made the tatooed skin into lampshades too? To complete the lie? And what about all the hair they used for ‘german womens mattresses’.. what a crock.
Look it up my friend, and try to find SOLID PHYSICAL evidence of that was supposed to have happened… You will be in for a shock… I know I was…
52. sakul - September 10th, 2007 at 11:06 am
Ok I just verified that it was possible that the germans kept tattooed skin of victims. However, it turns out that the rumors of ‘the bitch of buchenwald’ using the skin to bind books and make lampshades is fabricated..
http://www.hlrecord.org/home/i.....d8f886dbfb
53. jfrater - September 10th, 2007 at 11:12 am
sakul: I did not say that she did - I know it is false - but she is still evil because of the things she really did do - even if you remove the exaggerations and lies about her.
54. Klaus - September 10th, 2007 at 11:22 am
Queen Mary gets a spot for having persecuted Protestants, but Elizabeth I gets overlooked, despite persecuting Catholics in largely the same manner?
History is indeed written by the winners.
55. sakul - September 10th, 2007 at 11:22 am
even if you remove the exaggerations and lies about her.
…
seems to me like condi is responsible for more death and mayhem than her. or how about ann coulter?
56. jfrater - September 10th, 2007 at 11:31 am
Klaus: I consider Elizabeth I to be evil - and I mentioned Oliver Cromwell on the Evil men list - I am certainly not writing from an anti-Catholic bias - I assure you. I just felt that Mary was the worse of the two.
57. jfrater - September 10th, 2007 at 11:35 am
sakul: Ann Coulter is responsible for more deaths than Ilse Koch? You lose credibility when you make such silly statements.
58. Loose Cannon - September 10th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
sakul:seems to me like condi is responsible for more death and mayhem than her. or how about ann coulter?
Wow. Condi and Ann Coulter are responsible for more death and mayhem then the ‘The Bitch of Buchenwald’???
It’s just amazing to me how ignorant people can be.
59. sakul - September 10th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
Hey LooseCannon…
Check to see who was a major part of the scam that got us into this latest war… and it ain’t the bitch of buchenwald.
and yes, it is amazing how ignorant people can be.. when they blindly just listen to the MSM.
60. Loose Cannon - September 10th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Sakul:Check to see who was a major part of the scam that got us into this latest war… and it ain’t the bitch of buchenwald.
And that means what, exactly, to the topic of the world’s most ‘Evil Women in History’? That somehow Ann Coulter or Condi Rice are equal in stature to the wife of the commandant of a concentration camp run by the Nazi’s during the most horrific atrocities in history?? Is this what you really believe?
61. Chris - September 10th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
What about that bitch in Texas that drowned all of her four or five kids? She needs to be on this list. Anybody who can do that to another human being is biological trash. And anybody who can do that to their own defenseless children needs to be dropped in the ocean from about 500 feet in a burlap bag and left for the crabs and the sharks. What a piece of human crap!!
62. Gigi - September 10th, 2007 at 10:33 pm
You forgot Madeleine Albright. She is the reincanation of Satan himself.
63. Siope - September 11th, 2007 at 7:41 am
As far as Andrea Yates — “that bitch in Texas that drowned all of her… five kids” — she was found to be suffering from postpartum psychosis and the rare adverse effect of “homicidal ideation” as a result of medication she had been taking. She currently is in a mental health facility.
64. sakul - September 11th, 2007 at 9:37 am
Condi helped lie the american people into accepting a war that has slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people…
when Israel attacked Lebanon last summer (and let’s get this straight, the ROCKETS that Israel used as an excuse didn’t start flying at Israel until nearly 48 hours after Israel invaded lebanon) … Condi said that the war was ‘growing pangs of a new middle east’..and it was ‘premature for talk of a cease fire’… yeah nearly a thousand dead civilians…. If that’s not evil, I don’t know what is.
65. Loose Cannon - September 11th, 2007 at 11:30 am
sakul: If that’s not evil, I don’t know what is.
I would agree; You don’t know what evil is. I am very certain, as well, there are many things that you don’t know.
I took the time to reread some of your posts and when I got to this sentence I knew I either hooked a troll or you really are insane:
There is not a shred of proof in the historical record about the alleged ‘holocaust’ crimes. All there is is word of mouth from the trials. There was NO solid hard proof of any of those crimes…
You mean other then the testimony of thousands on both sides, photographic evidence, video footage, mass graves with thousands of bodies buried in them, crematoriums that still had human fragments in it, and the reams of pages documenting the systematic and carefully planned genocide of millions of people? Ya, other then that, there’s very little evidence.
Move along.
66. sakul - September 11th, 2007 at 11:45 am
What photographic evidence? What mass graves with ‘thousands’ of bodies. Yes there were crematoriums, which were used to dispose of dead bodies. No one is disputing that. There were typhus epidemics all across europe during ww2.
Guess what. There is NO documentation about the carefully planned genocide of millions of people. Show me it, won’t you? The Jews say that it was ‘word of mouth’ order by Hitler because there is NO documentation of it. Everything you are saying, is just what you have been told.
Look for the google video, ‘one third of the holocaust’.. and watch it through, as it disproves exactly one third of the claim by the Jews of how many were killed.
Answer this, why is the claim that 6 million jews were killed in the holocaust still repeated to this day, even though the death toll at aushwitz was quietly reduced from 4 million people to around 1.5 million. Why, that is 2.5 million LESS people that were killed, isn’t it?
Did Israel pay back germany the money it extorted for these phony 3 million victims? Keep looking sonny, you will find the truth eventually…
67. sakul - September 11th, 2007 at 11:49 am
I would agree; You don’t know what evil is.
..
No dude, lying to the people that voted for you, so that you can start a war and kill thousands of people, establish permanent military bases and exert control over a people that don’t want it, and steal their oil… well, that’s evil.. einstein.
68. Loose Cannon - September 11th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
Sakul: Keep looking sonny, you will find the truth eventually.
I really pity you. Somewhere, someone didn’t give you the attention you desperately needed.
Obviously, you’ve felt you could obtain that attention here. Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not going to give you the satisfaction of arguing about the holocaust. The evidence is overwhelming and the atrocities themselves are very well documented. I suggest you visit the US Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington DC if you really doubt it took place.
In any case, I sincerely hope you seek mental health treatment soon. It’s obvious you need it. Good luck and have a good life.
69. sakul - September 11th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
HAHAHA! Typical wing nut response.. Trying to cut me down with nothing do with the topic.. Look again, there is NO physical evidence, just word of mouth… and I am talking here about the gas chambers… I am not arguing that no jews were killed in the camps, why, there are pictures of them being executed.. but in those pictures you see a few people, maybe a dozen and in some a hundred or so. Where are the MILLIONS?
Guess what buddy, you lose, because you can’t come up with a single bit of factual evidence, all you do is try to belittle me. Typical.
70. jfrater - September 11th, 2007 at 12:51 pm
I wasn’t going to get involved, but:
http://www.thefuturejew.com/image/belsen01.jpg
http://www.annefrankguide.net/.....squads.jpg
http://library.thinkquest.org/.....insatz.gif
http://home.earthlink.net/~dch.....ssKill.gif
http://www.zwoje-scrolls.com/shoah/belsen2.jpg
71. sakul - September 11th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
I have seen all those pictures…. Who hasn’t? And I never said that atrocities didn’t happen.. it was a war. The USA also killed over 200,000 people in one night in the firebombing of tokyo. You should look up the typhus outbreak across europe during the war… and what was the solution to the outbreak? strip all prisoners of clothes, cut their hair, and delouse the clothes and articles… what did they use to delouse with? Why zyklon B of course.
What I DON’T see in any of your pictures… is a gas chamber.
72. sakul - September 11th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
Look, I have seen all the pictures.. I have even sat through a Holocaust symposium.. and I believed it all too. It wasn’t until my son’s uncle gave him an IDF shirt he brought back from Israel that I started to look into all this, about 6 years ago. My son wanted to go there, and the second intifada was just starting up so I wanted to know what he might be getting into.. I was severely shocked to find out what is REALLY going on in this world.. If anyone wants some true enlightenment, start here..
www.ifamericaknew.org
and here…
www.cactus48.com/truth.html
The jews stole arab land, and then when the arabs started fighting back, they blame them for the problems, and call them terrorists… it actually makes one sick to their stomach when you finally realize it.
73. sakul - September 11th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
a telling quote…
.”We came here to a country that was populated by Arabs and we are building here a Hebrew, a Jewish state; instead of the Arab villages, Jewish villages were established. You even do not know the names of those villages, and I do not blame you because these villages no longer exist. There is not a single Jewish settlement that was not established in the place of a former Arab Village.” – Moshe Dyan, March 19, 1969, speech at the Technion in Haifa, quoted in Ha’aretz, April 4, 1969.
check it out…
74. Susan - September 11th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Isabella of Castile set up the Inquisition - this makes her far more evil than “just” expelling the Jews and stealing all their property. But I think that #2 was just more graphically sick than the others, and could not be more plain evil than the others.
And, I hope everyone notice that all the Holocaust deniers *also* are telling lies about Israel, too. I hope everyone also remembers this when they listen to “stories” about Israel and make sure to check the ultimate source, no matter which media is emanating them.
75. Susan - September 11th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
Also, there is at least as much evidence that EMMA Bordon (Lizzie’s sister) did it - her alibi was never fully investigated, and her behavior as she aged pointed to HER guilt. There is at least one historian who thinks that Lizzie only knew what Emma was going to do, and volunteered (to Emma) to stand trial because, after all, they both knew who did it, and she couldn’t be convicted…
76. jfrater - September 11th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Susan: I did mention her part in the Inquisition
And I agree with you on the holocaust denialism - I am not going to stop people debating the subject but I have had said all I am going to on the topic - it is like banging your head against a brick wall with revisionists. Interesting comment on Emma Borden - thanks.
77. John - September 12th, 2007 at 4:46 am
Add my sister Carol to this list. She had her cancerous brother thrown in jail for no reason and earlier put her other brother in jail on false charges and collected reward money for it.
She was forgiven by both brothers but she is still scheming for more. She is vindictive, vengeful, and she makes life miserable for anyone around her, especially children under the age of 13. Hell is just fine without her!!
78. jfrater - September 12th, 2007 at 5:48 am
John: I edited out the surname of your sister because it is probably not appropriate to put it here.
79. sakul - September 12th, 2007 at 7:45 am
And, I hope everyone notice that all the Holocaust deniers *also* are telling lies about Israel, too
…
HAHA! I challenge you to PROVE what I say isn’t true….. Same with you jfrater… I never denied the holocaust… I just said that there is no proof of gas chambers, and there is no proof of a systematic ‘final solution’. There really isn’t. Tell my why the only supposed ‘gas chamber’ in auschwitz doesn’t have blue stained walls? Yet the delousing chambers at auschwitz have blue stained walls (blue stains come from prussic acid, the reaction of zyklon b with air, is this prussic acid). And note the crude little ’screens’ that they say the germans dumped the zyklon b pellets in… they would have had to replace the ‘german’ who did it each time, as he would have died the instant he opened the can (by hand, says the jews). And susan, like you said, check your sources. It is not me who is lying about Israel, it is you. Check to see how Israel was created.. And ask yourself why they are in defiance of hundreds of UN resolutions telling them to stop the occupation, stop stealing land, and stop brutalizing the palestinians.. Didn’t we invade Iraq because they were in defiance of a UN resolution? What total hypocrites the Israelis are. jfrater….. show me a picture of a real gas chamber… maybe do some calculations yourself on how over a million people could be burned in 4 crematoriun ovens over a period of several months or a couple years. it is physically IMPOSSIBLE. And you say your are banging your head against a wall… how do you think we feel.. you know, the people that know the truth about Israel.. You folks have been eating up Israeli propaganda for years. Why is a kid that throws a rock at a tank, then gets shot in the head and killed, labeled a terrorist? The internet, will save us all though. Israel’s lies, murder and mayhem is being exposed, finally.
When do you think the story of ‘millions’ of jews killed started? Did it start after the war? When the allies liberated the camps? No, it started near the beginning of the war! The stories were coming out in the newspapers all over the states! How did they ‘know’ several years before the war was over that ‘millions’ were going to die? AHA! Guess what, the jews tried to say the same thing after ww1 too..
look it up.
80. jfrater - September 12th, 2007 at 8:54 am
Sakul: enough now - this is not the place to debate revisionism. You can speak your mind but do it yourself - don’t paste links to questionable websites.
81. sakul - September 12th, 2007 at 12:19 pm
Ahh.. I didn’t notice that you pulled the links I posted… What a joke.
jfrater censors his website for stuff he doesn’t like… and while that is his right as it is his website… you all should know that he does this…
82. jfrater - September 12th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
sakul: I wasn’t trying to pretend I didn’t. Speak for yourself - don’t just paste links to revisionist websites
83. sakul - September 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
I do speak for myself. Yet, I am called a liar and have been called worse. I simply point out the facts, and use links to back it up as proof. Kinda like what is supposed to happen with actual research.. It would appear on the surface, that you know how to do research… on the surface anyways.
84. jfrater - September 12th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
sakul: I am not going to discuss this any further. No one else is debating you on the Jews so you have no reason to keep on either. Let’s just get on with enjoying the rest of the site.
85. sakul - September 12th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
No one is debating because you took away the proof and incriminating evidence of Zionist lies and crimes. Just like any other stool pidgeon, you removed my links, and the comments that went with those links, yet, didn’t remove any links of Israeli propaganda (such as the ‘holocaust’ pictures, that show nothing of the sort) or of people mocking my intelligence. Weak… very, very weak. And typical.
86. Sluggirl - September 13th, 2007 at 9:13 am
What about Madame LaLaurie?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphine_LaLaurie
I don’t think you can get much more evil than that…
87. jfrater - September 13th, 2007 at 9:29 am
Sluggirl: wow - thanks for mentioning her - how revolting!
88. Pilgrim - September 13th, 2007 at 8:57 pm
The evil women list is a bit too western
Cleopatra, Jezebel,Chiang Ch’ing, Chairman Mao’s wife, Madame Chauchesku
Many other female candidates in global history, No communists at all, do we ignore Shining Path, Cambodia Killing Fields, Great Leap Forward
89. Lbj - September 14th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
ok,seriously guys if there were a kind a scale you could measure evilness on, then it would be really easy to rate them, but there isnt. So if you dont like the order they are in and want to argue about, rather go a CREATE YOUR OWN SITE. There is nothing wrong with discussion and bringing up extra suggestions (Lalaurie was a good one - she is pure evil!) However, if you dont like it go and get snotty about it somewhere else - this facility is for adults who can discuss issues in a level-headed manner.
90. big k - September 14th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
actually, i believe mary 1 reinstituted the catholic faith, it was elizabeth that squashed it. your facts are wrong here. it was elizabeths iron fisted suppression of roman catholicism that lead to many small uprisings, even after her death. the most widely known being the gunpowder plot, weathered by her successor.
and there is much more to the story about isabella than you are posting here. i recommend people read more about her on their own. there is a reason she is being considered for sainthood, including her putting down a rebellion and ending the kidnapping by force of her words alone. as she rode out of town the people chanted her name for what they had seen as a minor miracle. look it up.
91. SarahFish - September 16th, 2007 at 2:58 am
Ooh! What about Linda Burfield Hazzard? There’s much more detailed information about her here.
I saw a blurb about her on the History Channel during my freshman year of college, and something about her has stuck with me ever since. She remains one of the more sadistic - and one of the least known - female serial killers.
92. killadyvah - September 16th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
love the site, it was an eye-opening list, I did think maybe some of them Queens could be seen from different historical perspectives…nonetheless-keep up the good work!
93. killadyvah - September 16th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
Also jfrater-I read this site all the time and love it!
Sluggirl-while all the fussin’ was going on I looked up Madame LaLaurie and you’re right!
If she doesn’t deserve and “Honorary Evil” mention, no one does-plus she covers slavery. It’s a much overlooked period of history in our country because it makes us feel uncomfortable. Truth is, that was a rather “evil” institution.
94. jfrater - September 16th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
big k: I did say that Mary restored Catholicism - she suppressed protestantism - so my facts are correct on her. Also, I do consider Elizabeth I of England to be Evil - I just think that under the reign of Mary, there was a more physical putting down of the group she opposed. I would certainly second your comment about reading up on Queen Isabella.
SarahFish: What a fascinating story! I hadn’t heard of her before. Thanks for the addition.
killadyvah: I agree about the Queens - it is true that History is written by the victors, and in the case of England, Cromwell and Elizabeth are seen as heroes, while the rest of the world sees them as scoundrels (to put it mildly). Elizabeth I, despite her legacy, is still known as Good Queen Bess!
95. Mike - September 21st, 2007 at 5:46 am
You should meet my wife
96. jfrater - September 21st, 2007 at 7:11 am
Mike: hehe you are not the first person to say that
97. Tye The Czar - September 21st, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Well, oy. I believe ones who should make this list is:
~Ronnie Lamm- demonized video games while on the Donahue talk show in the 70’s and had people ban arcade machines.
~Ann Coulter. An insulting dominatrix.
~Condi Rice. Just for working with the Bush Admin.
98. Loose_Cannon - September 21st, 2007 at 7:06 pm
Well, oy. I believe ones who should make this list is:
~Ronnie Lamm- demonized video games while on the Donahue talk show in the 70’s and had people ban arcade machines.
I nominate your therapist or psychiatrist for ‘Most Evil’. They’re obviously holding back some powerful medication.
99. Wowzer - September 24th, 2007 at 8:52 pm
Great list! Is it just me, or does it seem like half of these people can be combined to make the sadistic antagonist of Stephen King’s “Misery?”
100. jfrater - September 25th, 2007 at 12:36 am
Wowzer: heh so true. That is a brilliant movie - Kathy Bates is just so horrible that I have never been able to see her the same way in movies she did after that.
101. The Dog - September 25th, 2007 at 6:14 am
I think the list needs to be renamed. Seriously.
Just because these women killed people doesn’t really make them evil.
Evil is so subjective, isn’t it?
102. zb - September 26th, 2007 at 11:36 am
After Price was killed, Knight skinned him and hung his skin from a meat hook on the architrave of a door in their living room. She then decapitated him and placed the head in a pot on the stove, baked flesh from his buttocks, and prepared vegetables and gravy to serve as a meal to his children, which was accompanied by vindictive notes from Knight.
i dont know Katherine Knight just sounds eccentric.
“dont ask me to cook dinner i’ll cook your ass and serve it to your children!”
103. artmad - October 3rd, 2007 at 3:51 am
Wow, Queen Mary and Elizabeth of Castille among serial killers and nazi torturers. Black legend, anyone?
104. ryan - October 3rd, 2007 at 2:38 pm
all these women are really ugly. is that some kind of connection?
105. sarah - October 4th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
isnt that mary person the one when you say her name in the mirror she pops up and kills you [[well all the stories are different but tahts basicly it]]
106. asdfriend - October 4th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
ummm…i guess that this should be under the most evil men and women in the world (the just recently turned bad, they were AWESOME the rest of the time) would have to be the people at bungie… how could they do that to me, i mean after 6 years of playing mastercheif and now hes just floating off in space (or maybe landing on “marathon”) and i have to have an ending like that, i mean they went off and crushed millions of peoples dreams (unless they make halo 4)…that my friends is evil at its finest
107. bob - October 10th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
where’s Margret Thatcher? and yes, Ann Coulter should be there too!
108. Monkey - October 14th, 2007 at 12:25 am
I did some research on Elizabeth of Bathory for a school project. The way they described her physical appearance sounded a lot like me. That was a little freaky.
109. TJ - October 14th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Curious as to why they neglected to mention that Bathory killed these young girls so she could bathe in their blood - believing it would keep her youthful and beautiful.
110. jfrater - October 14th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
TJ: Did you read the article?
Let me quote: “The idea that Countess Bathory bathed in the blood of her victims is folklore.” She didn’t bathe in their blood - that is an urban legend - so widespread that I mentioned in the article to point out that it was not true.
111. DiscHuker - October 17th, 2007 at 9:55 am
sorry to do this j, but at the risk of getting sakul going again…does it make it less evil if they “only” killed 2 million jews instead of 6? I’ve heard people make insuations about the holocaust never happening but never really looked into it until today. Interesting stuff.
But even by your own admission “I never said the atrocities didn’t happen”. So what exactly is your argument? Anytime your solution to deal with the corpses on hand is to use a bulldozer and push them into a big hole because of the sheer number, doesn’t that mean that bad things have been happening?
112. sakul - October 17th, 2007 at 10:09 am
www.codoh.com
113. DiscHuker - October 17th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
That is all interesting stuff, but that doesn’t address the question i was asking you personally.
114. sakul - October 17th, 2007 at 12:13 pm
I don’t see any question asked at me personally… the answers to your questions about why there were so many bodies, etc.. at the END of the war, are at that website..
personally, I am not looking forward to ww3 not so much for myself, but for my children, one of whom is jewish.
115. DiscHuker - October 17th, 2007 at 12:48 pm
c’mon, don’t be like that. I’m asking you, is it somehow better that “only” 2 million people died?
I want to know the opinion of someone who holds to the views that I’m assuming you do concerning the “truth” of the holocaust. To much info on those sites to wade through when someone who has the answer will converse with me here.
I’ve got no agenda, just curious.
116. sakul - October 17th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
you do sound like you have an agenda.. or else you would do the research yourself, as I have.
Where does it say anywhere that only 2 million people died… are you referring to david irving?
And of course it is somewhat better that only 2 million died… that means that 4 million lived!!! But that is really not the point. It is a disaster that ANYONE dies in wartime.
And the whole issue is really not the ‘number’ who died (as it is well known that MILLIONS did die in ww2, not just Jews, but INCLUDING jews) but the issue is the method and the supposed malice involved.. i.e. a government sponsored final solution and gas chambers.
don’t you find it odd that they want laws passed against just discussing these things? Why not pass laws against discussing the rape of nanking by the japenese? what does that tell you? Do you believe that there were actually geysers of human blood shooting out of the ground at the camps? These are statements that are held as official doctrine and were used to execute german officers.. just think about it for a bit.
I don’t wish to discuss this anymore here, as I tried to open some eyes and ran into the same thing you run into everywhere… blind obedience, name calling and dodging. One person made a comment about their family dying in the war (SURPRISE mine did too, but they weren’t jewish so they don’t matter)… and the final comment was that a relative had a tatooed number on his/her arm… thus, proof that it happened… well, with all due respect to the poster, and I offer condolescenses for missing family members… a tatooed number on someone’s arm does NOT prove that there were gas chambers… it proves that someone tatooed a number on their arm.
I watched last night a documentary about the holocaust trial of ernst zundel in canada from about 1985… and funny thing I thought about that… he (zundel) and other revisionists are labeled as ‘nazis, white-supremists, hate-mongers.. hate this hate that hate every thing under the sun, hate hate hate etc…. But if you watch the documentary, the only hatred and violence that I saw there, was from the Jewish Defence League .. they tried to blow up his housed, he was beaten, his lawyers beaten, basically violently attacked every day he went to the court house… And most recently, he was kidnapped from his home in the states, rendered to canada where he was held in solitary confinement and was not allowed to even see the evidence against him, then deported after 2 years in this cell to germany where he is now in jail. FOR THINKING DIFFERENTLY…! Funny how mob mentality works…
117. Hobolad - October 17th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
“I nominate your therapist or psychiatrist for ‘Most Evil’. They’re obviously holding back some powerful medication.”
xD Love it.
@sakul: Wow. In a bad way.
This ain’t an argument for any good purpose, I doubt anyone’s gonna change their minds- so I’m not gonna get involved- just haven’t the time to waste sifting through long-forgotten stats and facts.
But just… unbelievable.
Entertaining list as always though jfrater!
118. curt maynard - October 17th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
It’s the Jews Stupid
http://pcapostate.blogspot.com.....tupid.html
119. Loose_Cannon - October 18th, 2007 at 8:41 am
curt maynardIt’s the Jews Stupid
::shakes head::
It’s the 99% of anti-Semites that give the other 1% a bad name.
120. Reklaw - October 19th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
I’m sorry, but any list of evil women that fails to include Sadie Mae Glutz is horribly incomplete. Katherine Knight’s got nothing on Glutz and the Manson Family.
How could you possibly leave her off?
121. newsong - October 21st, 2007 at 1:20 pm
Good job jfrater, a really interesting list…
So good, in fact, it brings the dissenters in on it… Copyright and the Holocaust in one fell swoop.
122. jfrater - October 21st, 2007 at 2:21 pm
Reklaw: I didn’t include anyone from the Manson family - you will see I mentioned another of the girls above. As bad as Susan Atkins was, I don’t think she is worse than the women on the list.
newsong: dissent is great - the controversial lists are the best ones to read
123. Peggy - October 25th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
Wow! Ya’ll went from evil women,to stealing,to war.And,
I dont have a problem where or how anybody gets the information i am reading,as long as it is true and updated.
You guys with war and info problems need to have your own website on it.I really dont care to read about war when im looking for entertainment.
124. alisa - November 1st, 2007 at 3:07 am
Oh my goodness! I cannot believe you have Elizabeth Bathory on here. I have read so many books about her. She is definately evil. Actually, I am quite scared of her. I have nightmares about her a lot. She is so creepy.
125. jfrater - November 1st, 2007 at 3:17 am
alisa: I agree - she definitely deserves her top position on the list!
126. Exlr8r - November 2nd, 2007 at 8:00 am
Wow, I dont normally post comments because I would rather explore the net to find sites just like this one Jfrater has created.
Comment:
I had heard of just a few of these women and the ones I had not…are just plain scary. Thx Jfrater.
@sakul–is your rant because as a woman you were not picked to be in the top 10 Evil Women? I wont say get a life, but I will say NASA needs you. Move to Mars please
@Jfrater–thx for the site, keep it up
127. jfrater - November 2nd, 2007 at 8:04 am
Exlr8r: Thanks for your comment - it is much appreciated
128. Scoobydoo10 - November 5th, 2007 at 1:20 pm
did u know that mary I burned pregnant women and one women gave birth while she was being burnt!!!
like ew ew ew ew ew she is so evil but not as evil that women who was gonna serve her husbands … stuff to his kids that is LIKE DISGUSTING!! HOW EVIL!! how can you people find this topic cool
129. Nabila - November 6th, 2007 at 11:45 am
This is so scary!!
130. dwitefry - November 6th, 2007 at 5:56 pm
Thatcher
f**** Thatcher
MeX
131. A-A Man - November 11th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
I enjoyed the list, but I’d like to point out one problem I’m not sure is relevant, but still leads me to wonder.
Every woman on th elist is white…being black…that doesn’t really kill me..but I have to wonder if given more time to research…more women of evil intent would’ve been found in varying races…
What I think though, is since we have to go on solid evidence of their actions, most of these women do not have any way to being discredited for their action so they deserve the spots they received.
132. SortaListless - November 18th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
From the Nit-Pick Corner of the Midwest: The final two sentences in Queen Mary I’s description are repeated.
Gosh, jfrater, you have an excellent — although highly habit-forming — site! THANK YOU!
133. jfrater - November 18th, 2007 at 12:44 pm
A-A-Man: I researched evil women - my search did not exclude black women, Asian women, or any type of woman - in fact - I included an Australian!
I like to think the lists create themselves - I just tell you all about them.
SortaListless: Thank you for the correction and the praise - my favorite things! I have corrected it.
134. Winterhawk - November 18th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
To be fair you did say there was proof of Kochs acts but the picture you linked to shows internal organs in glass/wood display boxes.
135. jfrater - November 18th, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Winterhawk: gee - what proof do you want? High definition video footage?
136. SortaListless - November 18th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Hey, j, I still see one of the two repeated sentences in Queen Mary I’s description — starting with “Numerous Protestant leaders…” That’s it. The LIST is what matters. No more red pen.
I’ll add to my own list (out of fury and sheer horror): Susan Smith, Andrea Yates, Deanna Laney, Darlie Routier, Susan Eubanks, the suspect Amber Hill…
Okay, and now back to our regular programming.
137. SARAH - November 19th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
you FORGOT TO Mention : Hilary Clinton
138. Cabrona - November 20th, 2007 at 4:02 am
Nice site by the way…dare I say “deadly” Sorry,bad pun!
Anyhow…yes Israel is a whole fucked up situation as is the ignorance of the “american” public in regards to the genocide commited in the name of “freedom” since that country was founded. But you cannot POSSIBLY say that the holocaust did not happen! There were more jews killed than others,but NO,they were not the only ones. Anarchists,gypsies,immigrants and those seeking refuge from fascist rule were tortured and killed as well. I have seen the “evidence” you demand and I have talked with survivors now living in France. I do NOT agree that the holocaust should have been a reason to start a new gonocide known as “Israel” but my point is…Humanity is and has always been fucked up. The holocaust,various wars, etc are not the first and will not be the last.Point said,can we stop arguing about plagerism and who did what to whom and get back to serial killers?!
*sheesh*
139. jfrater - November 20th, 2007 at 4:08 am
SortaListless - does it look better now? Sometimes the caching can obscure changes.
Cabrona: Thanks
140. Morgaine - November 20th, 2007 at 4:20 am
Cabrona: Where are you from? It’s just curiosity, but, do you know what your nick means in spanish?
Btw I agree with you, “humanity is and has always been fucked up” Amen! hehe
141. XayXay - November 20th, 2007 at 5:58 am
Anyone who denies the Holocaust should be given no credibility…they should not be listened to..they should not be heard out…they should just silently walk into a dark place…and sit in timeout.
142. Winterhawk - November 21st, 2007 at 3:22 pm
Hello again folks, I just god my low energy lightbulb. I’m feeling good saving the planet and soaking some uv.
If I were to make a single point it would be one should always keep an open mind and debate never did anyone harm. Well not strictly true with blood pressure but freedom of speech should be important.
I know it’s your list but I wonder if Mary 1st should be there and Lizzy 1st too in essence. What about Catherine De Medici? Was De Medici responsible or not for the Huguenot massacres? For historians the debate continues. Monarchs did lots of bad things to hold onto power. Top ten budget meals is fun but some topics can be discussed at length? People can go to jail in some countries of Europe for saying things.
Peace and I like kittens btw.
143. Fronika - November 21st, 2007 at 3:31 pm
You missed off Margaret Thatcher.
144. stahov - November 24th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Where’s Elaine Waurnos?
145. Winterhawk - November 26th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
I also believe that Bathory was stitched up. She had powerful enemies, well the most powerful in the land. It would be handy if she were out of the way. The witnesses could be tortured to extract their information. Something wrong there.
The corpse count varies wildly depending on who you belief. Her friend the king telepathically knew a most inflated death count.
If there should be women that belong on this list what about the young bags that suped up the Salem witch trials. They seem to have really enjoyed themselves.
146. Magnum - November 26th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
“Soul of a women was created below.”
-Led Zeppelin
147. Avi - November 27th, 2007 at 7:44 pm
Hell hath no fury like a woman’s scorn
148. mystik20 - November 29th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
hey, kool list, i was meant to be researching a woman to write about for a college assignment, came across this page and ended up hooked reading it and doing no real work, great fun lol keep up the good work j
149. Azmerelda - December 1st, 2007 at 11:48 pm
I like the list i think that you should make a list about the most evil guys(if you havent already) make sure to put ted bundy on that. Loose cannon your funny you make me chuckle.
150. Alexandra - December 3rd, 2007 at 1:39 am
This was a fascinating list!
I had not heard of many of these women. Not even Katherine Knight, who was stark raving mad!
151. sarahenity - December 3rd, 2007 at 3:17 am
“I included an Australian!”
now now jfrater, be nice
152. jfrater - December 3rd, 2007 at 3:29 am
sarahenity: hehe no offence was meant by that of course - I was just meaning I included non-Americans
153. jaide - December 7th, 2007 at 7:41 am
ugh that woman was sick and twisted. the knight woman. What she did was unspeakable. She needs to be executed shesh still freaking living!!!
154. elijah - December 8th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Great site.. i’ve been on here for perhaps 6 hours now and i only happened to stumble across a random page of yours… can’t even remember what it was now….
Something that was talked about months ago….
wtf with the holocaust denier…. man… he might have made a decent argument but it was soooo preachy that i think it just came of as per the hundreds of times one runs across these trolls… well dealt with…
back to your site…
155. Renee - December 8th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
Jfrater -
You have a fantastic site! The top 10 list was very interesting and I learned a lot. Seriously spent tons of time reading everyone’s opinions. Job well done =)
156. jaide - December 10th, 2007 at 8:17 am
I love reading peeps opinons on here. I wonder if the sreator would put something like the most grusome pics ever taken. If he was to do something like that he could go to www.rotten.com. That sights so graphic some of there pictures even make me sick and it takes a lot to do that. But this site is actually well made i love reading peoples comments as well. Im going to become a member. And i have a question for jfrater. How long have you been on here?
157. jaide - December 10th, 2007 at 8:31 am
omg i just found out jfrater created this website boy do i feel like an idiot. I have a comment for you jfrator. Your a really smart guy for creating something like this and how did you start? what motivated you to create this and why?
158. jfrater - December 10th, 2007 at 8:35 am
jaide: thanks
I started it because I love top 10 lists and thought it would be a good way to talk about some of the subjects I really love - luckily a lot of you guys love them too! 
159. jfrater - December 10th, 2007 at 8:48 am
Oh - and we do have some photos of corpses - but nothing too gruesome yet
The problem is that I am not too good with that kind of thing myself - so I am not sure how I could cope finding them 
160. dangorironhide - December 10th, 2007 at 8:52 am
jfrater: I’ve just thought of a book you might enjoy, and will probably give you ideas for even more lists. It’s called ‘The top 10 of everything’. It’s kind of like the guinness book of records, but with top ten lists. It’s got things like the worst accidents involving trucks, the most oscar nominationsm things like that.
161. dangorironhide - December 10th, 2007 at 8:53 am
jfrater: I’ve just thought of a book you might enjoy, and will probably give you ideas for even more lists. It’s called ‘The top 10 of everything’. It’s kind of like the guinness book of records, but with top ten lists. It’s got things like the worst accidents involving trucks, the most oscar nominations and other random things like that.
162. jfrater - December 10th, 2007 at 8:55 am
dangorironhide: that does sound interesting - I will see if I can find it on Amazon - thanks for the tip
163. dangorironhide - December 10th, 2007 at 8:58 am
ack did i post that twice? internets must be running slowly
164. jaide - December 10th, 2007 at 9:18 am
jfrater have you ever been on that website www.rotten.com? you will find all of your gruesome photos there trust me its repulsive lol. I mean cannibalism, mutilation, torture, everything. Iraquies heads blown off. This 1 guys brains were literally out of his head pouring down the cement his face was flattened on the road and his skull were showing. He were split like a watermelon. Very graphic and real.
165. jaide - December 11th, 2007 at 7:35 am
hey jfrator you should make an instant message box so people could speak to you about thingd instantly. And i had a question about the phyopathic katherine knight. Where did this take place?
166. jfrater - December 11th, 2007 at 8:31 am
jaide: I have considered that - I think what would be best is to add the ability for people to send messages to each other - then we could get email notifications. You can do that on the forums but not here at the moment.
As for Katherine Knight, it was in Aberdeen, in the New South Wales Hunter Valley of Australia.
167. jaide - December 11th, 2007 at 9:09 am
I have one more importany question jfrater.
how long did it take you to create this website its really impressive. Im not just saying that either.
168. A-A Man - December 11th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
Well thats good…I noticed that the majority of the women on the list were white and I did not want anybody to bring up this fact or attack it saying this subject was bias and only done in regards to white ppl alone.
Its good to know this came directly from research and consideration rather than bias…or more specifically so that no one can complain that its only white woman on the list becuz you or anyone who may have helped you is prejudiced Jfrater
169. XayXay - December 11th, 2007 at 10:43 pm
Why do you think a person can honestly believe the Holocaust is not real and the amount of atrocities that DID happen did not?
Its just ridiculous.
170. jfrater - December 12th, 2007 at 4:35 am
jaide: it was fast to put it together with wordpress and a theme - over the four months we have been running I have made many tweaks
171. jfrater - December 12th, 2007 at 4:35 am
XayXay: I don’t understand it either - denial of any part of history is very dangerous.
172. 123456 - December 12th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
I read a lot about the Holocaust it was really sad! How Hitler wanted to kill all the jews! Thoses girls that were involed with it must be ashamed of themsleves or mabe not!
173. Miss Dizzy - December 16th, 2007 at 11:40 am
You forgot this lot…..
http://www.crimelibrary.com/ne.....less1.html
Now thats evil!!!
174. jfrater - December 16th, 2007 at 11:47 am
Miss Dizzy: it is - so one of the killers - Laurie Tackett is on the Top 10 Evil Children list
175. Miss Dizzy - December 16th, 2007 at 11:51 am
They should all be there!! And to think two have walked!!! Madness!!
176. psyclark - December 17th, 2007 at 1:48 am
Greetings,
Interesting list of evil-doers. I would like to see a more comprehensive list of women. What I mean by this is that clearly we can see the varied types of women as well as the varied types of victims. We can see that the political leaders sit in a different location than that of a classic psychopathic sadist. For example; would have Grese and Koch been the killers on this list if they were born and lived in some sleepy town in another country? So rating individuals on the level of killing can be a slippery slope. Do we then add every military woman or man to the list of killer? Snipers are credited by the amount they kill. What about them? I just want to say as well, the justification to take a life is more than just a matter of law. We all can come up with many reason that you the reader yourself would reasonably take a life ( self-defense, defense of others, military service and others). If numbers are all important than bomber pilots, political leaders and media have a greater number than the individual mother that is suffering from a undiagnosed psychological disorder. There are many cultural, physiological, psychological reasons that would place these women on this list. Don’t get me wrong, the acts (if true) that these women have done are horrific. But the list should be larger and separated to include other factors. This will create greater discussions on the relevant issue of why,how and what can be done to prevent. thank you for the time. I look forward to you responses. J Keep up the good work of instigating conversations on hard topics.
177. psyclark - December 17th, 2007 at 2:03 am
A excerpt from: Staub, Ervin
Source:Personality & Social Psychology Review; 1999, Vol. 3 Issue 3, p179, 14p
“Evil actions are defined as repeated or persistent, not commensurate with provocation and causing extreme harm, at times due to repetition. Evil develops or evolves. As individuals and groups harm others, they tend to develop characteristics that make further and more intense harm doing probable. In this article, I explore instigating conditions (difficult life conditions in a society, group conflict); cultural characteristics; the nature of evolution, with its psychological and social processes in individuals and groups; and the passivity and complicity of bystanders that lead to genocide and other collective violence. I consider the question of whether bystanders can be regarded as evil, focusing on the genocide in Rwanda as an example. I examine the socialization and experience of children and youth that lead to aggression and the subsequent evolution of aggression toward greater violence and evil. I explore the way personal characteristics and a system of relationships can lead to sexual abuse by fathers. One organizing concept in understanding the generation of violence that causes extreme harm is the frustration of basic human needs and their subsequent destructive fulfillment”. Very interesting (the why not the what)
178. Winterhawk - December 17th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Nobody took me up on Bathory does that mean I’m right or very wrong? After all she’s No.1. Whos up for a debate. Even professional historans are ask questions about her guilt. Shock!
Scholarly history ask for references and sources. I means going back to the original as well as quoting sources from other historians. Other historians may not be right.
So any good historian would be revisionist it’s just that term is coming to mean something forbidden. As for denying history, thats not dangerous, the danger is not knowing the source to begin with but thinking you do.
179. star2559 - December 18th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
I read the wikipedia article on the Lalaurie woman and it terrified me. I don’t know if I’ll sleep tonight.
180. XayXay - December 19th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
when are you gonna do part 2 to this?
181. Rick B - December 21st, 2007 at 9:50 am
Wow, ya’ll sure have a lot of pissed off women in Europe and you give America(ns) hell for owning firearms?
182. Stephanie - December 21st, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Excellent list. It’s very interesting. To whoever said this was a list of only white women, I think the creator probably intended it to include only the Western world. This is an English-language website, so keep in mind that the history will be more Europe-America inclined, since that’s what most people here are familiar with.
183. Rizwan Takkhar - December 28th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Hmm, nice list.
Thought about Phoolan Devi of India?
184. Roxana - December 29th, 2007 at 9:59 am
IMO neither Isabella of Spain nor her granddaughter Mary of England should have been included - and I say this as a direct descendant of Marrano, (forced Jewish convert) ancestors.
Both women acted within the morals and ideals of their time. As mistaken as we consider these to be it is unfair to hold them to later more ‘enlightened’ ideals that they never knew or subscribed to.
It would be fair to say Isabella, Mary and Elizabeth I did evil by our modern day standards of religious liberty and tolerance but not that they were evil for believing differently.
Elizabeth btw came very close to modern day ideas of tolerance. She didn’t so much care what people believed as long as they paid a minimal lip service to the dominant religion. Her catholic ‘persecution’ was in direct response to the political threat posed by the Catholic powers and their agents. There is no question that most of the priests executed were interested in nothing but saving souls but there were plenty who were up to their necks in sedition and assassination plots - and no way to tell one from the other.
185. luvbug - January 6th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
omg. that knight lady was just terrifying!
186. lolix - January 7th, 2008 at 8:07 am
Belle-Gunness is the most evil woman on the whole earth the true story says that she commeted over a 50 murders and never was puneshed for any of them.
buy the way i’m from israel and i read the heard the story from old man who says that she is realative to him.
thank you for the exiting list.
187. faboo - January 7th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
i dont think Queen Mary should be up there since the people hated her b/c she believed in another religion(forgot what one might be Roman Catholicism) and she killed some people over it and Queen Elizabeth actually killed more than she did and got away with it since she believed in the same religion as the people
188. ahh… - January 8th, 2008 at 3:54 am
Ok as much as I hate what Queen Mary and her grandmother Isabella did, I don’t think that you can judge them by modern standards.
Yeah I personally know of someone who deserves to be at about number 20. Unfortunately though there is not always proof for the evil things that they have done/attempted. Those are the really dangerous women.
189. jane - January 8th, 2008 at 3:57 am
faboo - I’m not sure how many people Elizabeth killed, but she certainly didn’t kill as many as Mary did for every average year of their reign. Elizabeth tried to maintain peace within her realm, and did allow Catholics to practise in secret. But Mary? She went on a bit of a killing spree. She actually set out to purge the country of Protestants - quite the opposite of her sister. So I wouldn’t say that Elizabeth ‘got away’ with anything.
190. tfmlam - January 8th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Also consider Waneta Hoyt, kiled 5 out 6 of her kids!
191. tfmlam - January 8th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
oops killed 5 out of 6
(^_^)
192. Dr. Smooth - January 9th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Wow no Oprah on that list?
I agree with Lizzie Borden not being on that list, even if she did it (which seems to be the case) there was no torture or anything really psychotic like the others on that list. Plus she lived a normal life after it happened.
From the pictures you can tell who’s evil if they look high or they look like men.
193. Mrpajamasharkman - January 14th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
That’s horrible… Killing children and puppies? Damn…
194. Slammerworm - January 15th, 2008 at 3:27 am
I would have put Myra Hindley at number one. One can concede that such people as Ilse Koch and the others here were the products of extraordinary circumstances and priveledged, unassailable positions but Hindley was an office secretary and turned up for work, appearing perfectly normal after participating in the crimes. That’s unfathomable.
195. Drogo - January 15th, 2008 at 4:25 am
You people never met my aunt Nancy….. [SHUDDER]
(Imagine a woman like Lilith on “Cheers” but with less personality.)
196. Satori - January 18th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
I would also submit Karla Homolka, who along with her husband tortured, raped (for days, filming each in which she also engaged in sexual activity with the young teans, including…wait for it…her younger sister on Christmas Eve.) She worked as a Veterinary assistant and used an animal anesthetic to subdue the victims, though they were still conscious. Amazingly, she was able to strike up a deal in exchange for her testimony against her husband- the deal included a term at a medium security prison, and a measley 12 year sentence, which she has served and is now a member of society. All Psychologists that assessed Ms. Homolka unanimously asserted that she would likely re-offend, and almost certainly would with a male accomplice. She is dating a prison inmate who was charged with the rape and attempted murder of his ex-girlfriend-he will also be out in the near future. Looking forward to the headlines about extra curicular activities of these two. (crimes committed in Ont. Canada)
197. Satori - January 18th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
At the terrible, terrible risk of opening a closed wound, I’d like to address Sakul; I find it very intriguing that the judgements that you are passing on people about accepting what they are told blindly when essentially, you’ve done the very same. Can you PROOVE without a shadow of a doubt that the things YOU are suggesting really did NOT occur? Citing websites (which we all know are SUCH accurate sources of Historical information) is pretty weak dear. But keep lapping it up. L-A-P I-T U-P! Sounds more like you are a salivating conspiracy theorist than anything. Nothing really based on fact, mostly based on theoretical OPINIONS of others.
The thing about opinions is that they are like ass holes, everyone has one and everyone thinks that everyone elses stinks.
It’s all THEORY in your arguments. I believe that people who bore witness to the attrocities and DOCUMENTED them are our best source of Historical Accuracy-those that shared their stories-well I suppose they all got together at a “Let’s fake the exhistance of Gas Chambers Convention” and agreed on the details of the fabrications? Are you next going to “proove” that little Green Men exist because websites (which you call your “research” sources) told you they did? Very sad kid, very sad.
Maybe the next list should be about dillusional fanaticists like yourself. You’d be number 1, hands DOWN!
198. Phineas - January 18th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
It should be noted that Elizabeth I shares position 10 on this list for her equally bad behavior.
Equally bad behaviour, and without so much as a drop of evidence?
Are you sure you aren’t imagining things that aren’t there; like those phantom Auschwitz gas-chambers.
199. nelson - January 19th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
women are more evil than men no doubt and the crimes that women make is always more sadic the sensitive women is a myth create by mass media brain wash and old ideas of the society…more to say
200. Megan - January 21st, 2008 at 10:47 pm
What about Annie Palmer the White Witch of Rose Hall. Who supposedly married and killed her four husbands. Also torturing and killing many of her slaves.